Acura: TLX News
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parasitius (01-17-2014)
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#7203
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So question about this whole TT business. Is it possible and likely (a gamble worth making) that a TT can make it to 200,000 miles no sweat just like the NA? Because I feel like you get a deal when you grab a 3~4 year old car with 100k miles on it, people are irrationally fearful of it - even though another thread on this forum has shown it can have 1/5th the wear and tear of a 30k miles car depending on the scenario. But I don't know if this works the same when turbos are factored in.
#7204
I drive a Subata.
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So question about this whole TT business. Is it possible and likely (a gamble worth making) that a TT can make it to 200,000 miles no sweat just like the NA? Because I feel like you get a deal when you grab a 3~4 year old car with 100k miles on it, people are irrationally fearful of it - even though another thread on this forum has shown it can have 1/5th the wear and tear of a 30k miles car depending on the scenario. But I don't know if this works the same when turbos are factored in.
#7205
▒JDM ¥ KING▒
Yo!
No TLX section yet?!
Looks like Azine bean counters are the same as Acura ones lol
No TLX section yet?!
Looks like Azine bean counters are the same as Acura ones lol
#7206
Burning Brakes
I would love to return to the Acura sedan fold, but the lack of exhaust tips on their lineup is killing me. I do like the styling direction they went with the TLX though. I just wish that they were consistent (outside of the grill, of course) with their model lineup. They killed off the TSX, which was a solid hit. Why not keep it around in addition to the TL? I find it hard to get on board with a company that doesn't have a solid direction.
I do see myself inthe TLX in a few years, however. I'm anxious to see what the interior has to offer.
I do see myself inthe TLX in a few years, however. I'm anxious to see what the interior has to offer.
#7207
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You make it seem like it's no big deal.
If I'm the buyer of top of the line TLX in the first MY then Acura replaces the NA engine with twin turbo in a year, I'm going apeshit.
Maybe not you, but I'll be one pissed off monkey.
But anyway, let's just drop the subject. We have zero idea if they are releasing the boosted engines. I don't think they will for 5G.
If I'm the buyer of top of the line TLX in the first MY then Acura replaces the NA engine with twin turbo in a year, I'm going apeshit.
Maybe not you, but I'll be one pissed off monkey.
But anyway, let's just drop the subject. We have zero idea if they are releasing the boosted engines. I don't think they will for 5G.
So question about this whole TT business. Is it possible and likely (a gamble worth making) that a TT can make it to 200,000 miles no sweat just like the NA? Because I feel like you get a deal when you grab a 3~4 year old car with 100k miles on it, people are irrationally fearful of it - even though another thread on this forum has shown it can have 1/5th the wear and tear of a 30k miles car depending on the scenario. But I don't know if this works the same when turbos are factored in.
#7208
I drive a Subata.
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Don't worry about the reliability of boosted engines.
It can't be worse than Honda/Acura effing up their transmission for years and years.
It can't be worse than Honda/Acura effing up their transmission for years and years.
#7209
Pro
Speaking of which,
I'd really like to see a forum poll - "If you are planning to get TLX, what % chance is there you'll wait for year 2 or 3 just to play it safe on tranny issues, engine issues, design flaws?"
Someone please! We need this poll. So curious.
#7210
I hope Acura just quietly delights with a 3-series/ats killer when it arrives on the showroom floor. Unlike the Q50 which Infinity went to great lengths to super hype (Vettle) only for it to be universally panned by the auto reviews for dreadful steering (by wire). Maybe Acura has some surprises to come on this...
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I hope Acura just quietly delights with a 3-series/ats killer when it arrives on the showroom floor. Unlike the Q50 which Infinity went to great lengths to super hype (Vettle) only for it to be universally panned by the auto reviews for dreadful steering (by wire). Maybe Acura has some surprises to come on this...
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#7215
#7216
At "nearly $45/person including tip," that's 7 of Cheesecake Factory's most elite dinners, or 6 elite dinners and $50 for a tank of gas.
#7217
And CF is fucking elite!
#7218
The irony. Read your own words then think about it for awhile.
#7219
I drive a Subata.
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#7221
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Was in Detroit yesterday for the auto show.
TLX display was pretty crowded. I have pix but everyone knows what the prototype looks like so I'll post instead in my upcoming Car Talk thread on the auto show.
It looks even better in person. To me, it looks good from every angle. Acura personnel there are saying mid-summer production/release. I, and others, were literally begging Acura staff not to change the design prior to release, though with a mid-summer production start, I'm sure the toolings are already built and in place.
Given the reaction from folks at the auto show, this car will sell like hotcakes if priced appropriately.
I'm on board personally with the current drivetrains pending fuel economy--I'm on the hunt for a fuel-efficient, fun car for certain workdays with longer commutes, and it has to look good as well. I'm sure the interior will be fine, that is one thing Acura generally doesn't fail on. I don't need boost, I've already got one car that scratches that itch nicely and I'm keeping it.
Big hat tip to Acura design for finally getting a sedan design right! Yes, it does contain design touches from other cars, but what car doesn't?
TLX display was pretty crowded. I have pix but everyone knows what the prototype looks like so I'll post instead in my upcoming Car Talk thread on the auto show.
It looks even better in person. To me, it looks good from every angle. Acura personnel there are saying mid-summer production/release. I, and others, were literally begging Acura staff not to change the design prior to release, though with a mid-summer production start, I'm sure the toolings are already built and in place.
Given the reaction from folks at the auto show, this car will sell like hotcakes if priced appropriately.
I'm on board personally with the current drivetrains pending fuel economy--I'm on the hunt for a fuel-efficient, fun car for certain workdays with longer commutes, and it has to look good as well. I'm sure the interior will be fine, that is one thing Acura generally doesn't fail on. I don't need boost, I've already got one car that scratches that itch nicely and I'm keeping it.
Big hat tip to Acura design for finally getting a sedan design right! Yes, it does contain design touches from other cars, but what car doesn't?
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#7222
Suzuka Master
Did anyone from Acura tell you when the power numbers are being released?
#7223
Senior Moderator
#7225
I have a genesis coupe 3.8L v6 GT model with 6-spd ZF auto paddle shifters.
Picture of my car currently :P
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54...IMG_3593-1.jpg
But having this car for a 3.5 years coming 4 years, I realized power isn't everything, it's nice to have 300+ hp with brembo brakes but I needed a replacement, something more convenient and better fuel economy that can be used as a daily car, yet still feeling sporty.
Was looking at lexus is350, love the looks, power, and handling, but fuel economy is meh, since they are milking that v6 engine without much change, also it's kinda above my price range.
The new TLX seems to fit everything I need, I don't really care much about power as long as it is sporty and efficient, I think both engine will fit that role nicely especially the 8 speed DCT but have to wait for more details. I also like the reliability aspect since I plan on keeping the car for a long time and the luxury interior quality will be much better.
I just hope the pricing will be fairly adjusted to the market.
Picture of my car currently :P
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54...IMG_3593-1.jpg
But having this car for a 3.5 years coming 4 years, I realized power isn't everything, it's nice to have 300+ hp with brembo brakes but I needed a replacement, something more convenient and better fuel economy that can be used as a daily car, yet still feeling sporty.
Was looking at lexus is350, love the looks, power, and handling, but fuel economy is meh, since they are milking that v6 engine without much change, also it's kinda above my price range.
The new TLX seems to fit everything I need, I don't really care much about power as long as it is sporty and efficient, I think both engine will fit that role nicely especially the 8 speed DCT but have to wait for more details. I also like the reliability aspect since I plan on keeping the car for a long time and the luxury interior quality will be much better.
I just hope the pricing will be fairly adjusted to the market.
#7227
Itz JDM y0!
Was in Detroit yesterday for the auto show.
TLX display was pretty crowded. I have pix but everyone knows what the prototype looks like so I'll post instead in my upcoming Car Talk thread on the auto show.
It looks even better in person. To me, it looks good from every angle. Acura personnel there are saying mid-summer production/release. I, and others, were literally begging Acura staff not to change the design prior to release, though with a mid-summer production start, I'm sure the toolings are already built and in place.
Given the reaction from folks at the auto show, this car will sell like hotcakes if priced appropriately.
I'm on board personally with the current drivetrains pending fuel economy--I'm on the hunt for a fuel-efficient, fun car for certain workdays with longer commutes, and it has to look good as well. I'm sure the interior will be fine, that is one thing Acura generally doesn't fail on. I don't need boost, I've already got one car that scratches that itch nicely and I'm keeping it.
Big hat tip to Acura design for finally getting a sedan design right! Yes, it does contain design touches from other cars, but what car doesn't?
TLX display was pretty crowded. I have pix but everyone knows what the prototype looks like so I'll post instead in my upcoming Car Talk thread on the auto show.
It looks even better in person. To me, it looks good from every angle. Acura personnel there are saying mid-summer production/release. I, and others, were literally begging Acura staff not to change the design prior to release, though with a mid-summer production start, I'm sure the toolings are already built and in place.
Given the reaction from folks at the auto show, this car will sell like hotcakes if priced appropriately.
I'm on board personally with the current drivetrains pending fuel economy--I'm on the hunt for a fuel-efficient, fun car for certain workdays with longer commutes, and it has to look good as well. I'm sure the interior will be fine, that is one thing Acura generally doesn't fail on. I don't need boost, I've already got one car that scratches that itch nicely and I'm keeping it.
Big hat tip to Acura design for finally getting a sedan design right! Yes, it does contain design touches from other cars, but what car doesn't?
#7228
I think the TLX 3.5 is to compete with the likes of 335i, IS350, Q50, ATS 3.6, C350, etc. And this TLX 3.5 will be launched at the very beginning. It's not being launched a year later or something.
If Acura were to release TLX with 3.5TT, then most likely we are looking at 400hp+. BMW and Cadillac don't launch their 400+hp M3/ATS-V until a year or two later.
There's no right or wrong really...some manufacturers do it one way, some do it in another way. Some might want Acura to launch all the choices at the very beginning. But too bad, their new engines aren't ready yet.
If Acura were to release TLX with 3.5TT, then most likely we are looking at 400hp+. BMW and Cadillac don't launch their 400+hp M3/ATS-V until a year or two later.
There's no right or wrong really...some manufacturers do it one way, some do it in another way. Some might want Acura to launch all the choices at the very beginning. But too bad, their new engines aren't ready yet.
Think of it this way:
TLX 2.4 = 320i
TLX 2.0T = 328i
TLX 3.5 = 335i
TLX 3.5TT ~= M3
If you assume the power ranges anywhere from ~210 HP for the 2.4 all the way up to 400-450 HP for the 3.5TT that's a damn compelling sedan lineup, assuming the pricing is right of course. Based on what I've read about the TLX GT Race Car, they're saying they will push the class limit for horsepower without any issue (450 HP is what I remember reading) from essentially the old discarded NSX 2.0 engine before they decided to rebuild it from scratch to get more power. Who's to say they couldn't put out a reliable 425 HP in a street legal version of the car?
Currently when the TLX launches there will be a decent power gap between the I4 and V6 variants (I'm assuming around 90 HP). I don't see an issue with slotting an engine in between to split this power gap.
This same source at Temple of VTEC also said that there was essentially an internal competition at Acura between the Japanese RLX team and the American TLX team for Acura's future direction. I think it's pretty safe to say already which group "won." Finally, this same source has been dropping hints of large changes coming to the ILX's powertrain and some tweaks to it's interior.
Given how often this guy is right, I'm inclined to think that Acura may have at least finally acknowledged what the actual problems are and are working fast to correct them.
#7229
Question: Why isn't the 8 speed Dual Clutch Transmission also paired with the SH-AWD V6 trim?
Just don't see why pair a 9 speed torque converter slush box to the V6.
Just don't see why pair a 9 speed torque converter slush box to the V6.
#7230
From what I've read the 8 Speed DCT can't handle the power that the 3.5 would be putting out. I forget the exact numbers, but it's limit is somewhere in the neighborhood of what the current 2.4 or the eventual 1.5T can output.
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xenonhid (01-19-2014)
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Whats up with RDX owners?
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I can't believe this point has been argued for any more than a post or two. If the rumblings coming from what seems to be a very well connected source at Temple of VTEC (he spilled the beans on the ZF-Sourced 9 AT for the TLX, it having a 2.4 and 3.5, NSX being twin-turbo, etc) then Acura is looking into how to incorporate the VTEC turbo engines into both the TLX and ILX. They're also looking into how to get the 3.5TT from the TLX GT into a high(er) performance variant of the TLX.
Think of it this way:
TLX 2.4 = 320i
TLX 2.0T = 328i
TLX 3.5 = 335i
TLX 3.5TT ~= M3
If you assume the power ranges anywhere from ~210 HP for the 2.4 all the way up to 400-450 HP for the 3.5TT that's a damn compelling sedan lineup, assuming the pricing is right of course. Based on what I've read about the TLX GT Race Car, they're saying they will push the class limit for horsepower without any issue (450 HP is what I remember reading) from essentially the old discarded NSX 2.0 engine before they decided to rebuild it from scratch to get more power. Who's to say they couldn't put out a reliable 425 HP in a street legal version of the car?
Currently when the TLX launches there will be a decent power gap between the I4 and V6 variants (I'm assuming around 90 HP). I don't see an issue with slotting an engine in between to split this power gap.
This same source at Temple of VTEC also said that there was essentially an internal competition at Acura between the Japanese RLX team and the American TLX team for Acura's future direction. I think it's pretty safe to say already which group "won." Finally, this same source has been dropping hints of large changes coming to the ILX's powertrain and some tweaks to it's interior.
Given how often this guy is right, I'm inclined to think that Acura may have at least finally acknowledged what the actual problems are and are working fast to correct them.
Think of it this way:
TLX 2.4 = 320i
TLX 2.0T = 328i
TLX 3.5 = 335i
TLX 3.5TT ~= M3
If you assume the power ranges anywhere from ~210 HP for the 2.4 all the way up to 400-450 HP for the 3.5TT that's a damn compelling sedan lineup, assuming the pricing is right of course. Based on what I've read about the TLX GT Race Car, they're saying they will push the class limit for horsepower without any issue (450 HP is what I remember reading) from essentially the old discarded NSX 2.0 engine before they decided to rebuild it from scratch to get more power. Who's to say they couldn't put out a reliable 425 HP in a street legal version of the car?
Currently when the TLX launches there will be a decent power gap between the I4 and V6 variants (I'm assuming around 90 HP). I don't see an issue with slotting an engine in between to split this power gap.
This same source at Temple of VTEC also said that there was essentially an internal competition at Acura between the Japanese RLX team and the American TLX team for Acura's future direction. I think it's pretty safe to say already which group "won." Finally, this same source has been dropping hints of large changes coming to the ILX's powertrain and some tweaks to it's interior.
Given how often this guy is right, I'm inclined to think that Acura may have at least finally acknowledged what the actual problems are and are working fast to correct them.
I think a nice 400hp number would be sufficient. My concern with it being aligned with the M3 is that, well....it's the M3. It's going to take a lot to beat it. I'm sure it will still sell though, which is always a good thing.
And that Acura puts the turbo'd mill out of the Type R into the ILX, even if it's slightly derated.
A DCT would've been good bragging rights, but the 9AT, from ZF, should be plenty good.
#7232
Team Owner
some of you guys are just too hopeful
TLX TT to compete with M3???
You will have to wait for Hyundai and Infiniti to come out with something like that first, then wait for 5 years. Then maybe, just maybe Acura will have 1.
TLX TT to compete with M3???
You will have to wait for Hyundai and Infiniti to come out with something like that first, then wait for 5 years. Then maybe, just maybe Acura will have 1.
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#7233
Senior Moderator
While I don't have a lot of complaints about the styling, I'm not sure why they didn't use what's IMO the most successful form of shield thus far. The shield's on the 11+ and 12+ TSX and TL. Those shield's line up directly with the top of the head lights are aren't rounded in the corners like the RLX and TLX's are. The fact that it still goes even slightly above the headlights bugs me. Not a deal breaker but it still could have been better executed. The shield blends so much better on the current TSX and TL.
#7234
I drive a Subata.
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TLX GT will use this very simple twin turbo V6 engine.
So, TLX will probably get the same engine to compete against M3.
Nice. Okay.
Makes sense. Alright.
So, TLX will probably get the same engine to compete against M3.
Nice. Okay.
Makes sense. Alright.
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VR1 (01-21-2014)
#7235
Fahrvergnügen'd
Does anyone at Honda/Acura talk to each other between divisions?!
#7236
Senior Moderator
This same source at Temple of VTEC also said that there was essentially an internal competition at Acura between the Japanese RLX team and the American TLX team for Acura's future direction. I think it's pretty safe to say already which group "won." Finally, this same source has been dropping hints of large changes coming to the ILX's powertrain and some tweaks to it's interior.
#7237
Acura/Honda has a long history of weak transmissions but that's just ridiculous. How does a company develop a new transmission and then not make it strong enough for engines they're planning at the same time?
Does anyone at Honda/Acura talk to each other between divisions?!
Does anyone at Honda/Acura talk to each other between divisions?!
And yes, I cringed at my high performance M3 comparison, but it's the best one I could think of last night. Essentially the race motor is a twin turbo J series, which they were already partly through development on thanks to the NSX anyway. For those of you who don't know, the original NSX engine was apparently just a boosted J35 (think boosted RLX SH-AWD but reversed) before they realized they couldn't hit their power target with that so they scrapped that plan and started work on the current NSX engine.
Not saying the TLX 3.5TT would be a true M3 competitor, but if doing that isn't a step in the right direction, I don't know what is. Assuming the rumor about the competition is true, the American office is the one that pushed for the V8/V10/RWD plank projects, so why wouldn't they want to showcase their baby with a high performance version?
Again, could be they never do this, but the idea itself is pretty compelling, and they at least appear to be thinking about it.
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civicdrivr (01-21-2014)
#7238
I drive a Subata.
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Trust me. We all think Acura is moving toward the right direction with TLX.
#7239
I am not sure about 3.5TT. But Honda did show 280hp 2.0T Civic Type R and 200hp 1.5T ILX along with the DCT last year. I can see this 2.0T making it into TLX.
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MuGen7Modulo (01-20-2014)
#7240
Team Owner
Honda has shown A LOT of good stuff in the past 10 years and look at the actual products in the past 10 years.
So all this turbo talks to me is just that .... talks.
So all this turbo talks to me is just that .... talks.