Legend2TL

Lexus? Really?

swoosh

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haha

I think the Koreans and the Germans are headed in the right direction...

AZuser

That's because being pot hole proof was so 2013.

Moog-Type-S

You gotta be smoking some of that Honda Corporate goooood stuff if you think Acura vehicle designs look better than Lexus.

oonowindoo

I really like the looks of the new IS F sport.

It is very aggressive, even more so than the F30 M sport. too bad it does not have the powertrain to back it up.

JS + XES

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Yep. I fking love the F sport one. Wish the 350 had a 6MT option. That would be a nice daily driver.



And look at this shit.

This is some sexy shit.

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Legend2TL

Looks and styling are subjective, but IMO you're or if you think


is better looking than


None of those angles work on the Lexus, although boring at least the RLX lines flow.

I was kinda wondering what the Lexus crew was smoking when they did their bicuspid grilz

Legend2TL

+1, I don't care for the new MB but I still like BMW's, Audi's and Hyundai's Genesis and Equus are quite distinguished from all angles.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

You do realize that Lexus GS has been selling really well ever since it received that redesign?

And do realize that Acura sells like couple dozens of RLX every year with that design?

Yes, "looks" is 100% subjective, but the number do not BS.

Legend2TL

Couple dozen?

You did go to school and learn arithmetic?

In terms of sales and numbers, look no further than the Porsche 928 and 911. Many stylist including Giugiaro admired the 928's styling yet never sold well for a host of other reasons.

The RLX has it's problems, but styling (with the exception of the smaller still present beak) is not one of them.

dom

indeed subjective. Let's leave it at that.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

There are so many wrong crap in this single post. Wow.

You win.

Legend2TL

By at least a couple dozens

Fibonacci

I like bright lights and I cannot lie
You other brothas just can't deny...






Why do the haters keep bringing up the RLX in the TLX thread?

dom

Who you calling a hater?

But a good point. Let's talk about the thus far much better looking TLX.

ttribe

Because it's the most recent sedan model brought to the market and is a likely indicator of the future of the TLX?

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

It was the fanboy who brought it up, not the hater.

Black Tire

Even the Toyota Avalon looks better then the new TL. That says allot right there.

oonowindoo

That is a bad pic of Avalon.

I think Avalon with Acura badge at $50k will sell better than RLX at $50k.

I remember the first time i saw the new Avalon on the road, i thought to myself, shit looks expensive, until i saw it was the Avalon.

RLX.. not so much.

Moog-Type-S

The Honda apologists typically call everyone else "haters".

It's pretty funny

oonowindoo

Your reply should have been " Acura might be good at many things, but styling is not one of them"

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Or it should have been..

Everything's wrong with RLX, but the biggest problem is the exterior styling.

Edward'TLS

Because both the RLX and the TLX sedans belongs to the Acura product line.

So whatever in the FLAGSHIP CAR will eventually come down to the TLX, whether we like it or not.

MeehowsBRZ

Speaking of "flagships," the actual Lexus flagship looks pretty nice with that giant grille.

kurtatx

This expression is always true on an enthusiast message board:

" X apologists call everyone else haters"

MTEAZY

My neighbors just traded their A4 convertible for an Avalon. The tails remind me of the new Sentra.


I'd recommend one to my parents, or someone that hates driving, but I don't think it looks better than TLX.

Fibonacci

Probably should have put that in red, but thought it was an obvious joke. I've been on record as saying the ILX is bland, over-priced and has a shitty powertrain. The RLX is bland, over-priced and the FWD versions don't offer enough differentiation over a Touring Accord.

But we're in the TLX thread. From what I saw at the NAIAS, it's an improvement.

Perhaps if we lived in the land of milk & honey (and droughts, mudslides, firestorms, earthquakes, air pollution and fake boobies), might think differently about my vehicle choices as I sat creeping in 10mph traffic on the 405 next to Moogelino.

Legend2TL

are your sure? Facts do not show it that way.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=7325

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=7333

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...postcount=7336

Legend2TL

Again styling and looks are subjective.
I think most of us here agree the 4G TL is .
However IMO the new TLX is better looking than the Avalon.

My only issue with the TLX styling is the little beak and too much chrome trim (mirrors, windows, lower grill).

Legend2TL

+1, some in this thread will brand you a fanboy even if you like one aspect of a Acura.

In terms of your sedan assessment I agree, ILX and RLX too pricey and a little bland. The TLX's concept/prototype is showing improvement in the styling.

Legend2TL

FIFY
Yes, it is pretty funny

ttribe

You aren't helping your argument much.

kurtatx

The more I look at it, the more I agree with your "too much chrome" observation. Chrome screams Chevy Cobalt Chrome package to me.

I share your sentiments regarding the look as well. It's not fantastic, but without that beak it is quite attractive.

fsttyms1

And when the production model hits, without its aggressive bumpers and wheels it too will look bland

jwong77

You know, looking at that bumper, what exactly about it is so fancy that prevented Honda from mass producing it? Its not like theres anything there thats exotic much. They probably could have saved some dollars just by going with this design instead of redesigning a new boring bumper design.

Moog-Type-S

Legend clowning it up in here.

Moog-Type-S

...but the TL did not need an "improvement". Pretty much anything was going to be an "improvement" over that 4G abortion of a design.

Acura needs much more than "improvements" over their piss poor designs from one gen to the next.

They swing from extremes: Crazy off the wall abhorrent designs to extremely conservative vanilla design.

Acura needs a brand new head of design.
Get a new corporate front end, get rid of the 5 point wedge shaped grille and front end.

Something new, something with presence. It always appears that when they go vanilla (as seems to be the case lately) it looks like designs from 8 years ago.

Honda needs to do something ground shaking with this brand, it's quickly moving to irrelevancy if it stays on this path.

....otherwise consolidate it under the Honda badge, ala Hyundai and their Genesis & Equus.

Legend2TL

just doing my part to prevent you from "keeping it real"

oonowindoo

I think Sentra's taillight looks really good. so i dont see anything wrong with it.

I said RLX, not TLX. Then again i agree with you that it does not good as TLX Prototype.

We will see when he production version comes out.

YEH

Actually, despite much more positive reviews by the automotive press, the 4G GS didn't come anywhere close to the sales of the 3G GS for its model year (the 3G did nearly 33.5k in its 1st year while the 4G only did 22k, and slipped to below 20k last year (the 3G sold over 20k for its 1st 3 years of sale).

The problem with the RL/RLX is being FWD in a segment that traditionally favors RWD.

Having said that, Cadillac has had decent success with the XTS, but they already had a base of buyers of the old school Cadillacs.

An interesting ? will be whether the hybrid will add a substantive amount to RLX sales.

Sales of the hybrid GS (positioned by Toyota as a substitute for a V8) are abysmal (selling about 30-35 a month), but usually hybrid sales for FWD sedans are strong (ES, Avalon, MKZ hybrids).

Anyway, need dynamic but pleasing sheetmetal to really compete against the Germans (not that the Germans have been so great in the design dept. lately), but these designs just handicap sales (but then again, even a ungainly design won't stop sales if all the other boxes are checked - see the previous CR-V which was a top seller).

Still should have lost the beak, but from the looks of it, the TLX is much better done than the RLX.