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Old 07-27-2015 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Your own links admit that TLX has sporty feel and better ride. and Accord is not good value at all. thats why it sells never compete with Camry.

TLX is good value
So now the TLX is good value. 20 days ago you said it wasn't, that is was "expensive for the quality of materials used."

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Actually TLX is expensive for the quality of materials used but since its low hanging fruit and every one can afford it so they buying it.
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And how can the TLX be a good value when it doesn't even come with chrome handles?

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TLX don't even have chrome handles like TSX.
and

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They replace two expensive TSX/TL cars with two cheap one ILX/TLX.
Old 07-27-2015 | 02:17 AM
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It is not good value compared to TSX but it is good value compared to Accord. You simply not understanding the down market nature of Accord.
Old 07-27-2015 | 07:57 AM
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^is English your first language.
just curious.
Old 07-27-2015 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
It is not good value compared to TSX but it is good value compared to Accord. You simply not understanding the down market nature of Accord.
How do you figure? Hey, i have a smart idea, lets compare it to a discontinued vehicle (TSX) and try to justify it as being a good value. Seriously, QUIT cherry picking info and words to try to justify to others that it makes sense because it DOESN'T... Oh, and Its not a good value compared to the TSX, nor is it a good value compared to the new MMC Accord, especially when the MMC gets 95% of its tech and then some for less.
Old 07-27-2015 | 09:16 AM
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there's certainly some cherry picking going on in here, but I don't think it's ssftsx. just sayin'.
Old 07-27-2015 | 10:54 AM
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you make as much sense as SSFTSX...
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Old 07-27-2015 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
How do you figure? Hey, i have a smart idea, lets compare it to a discontinued vehicle (TSX) and try to justify it as being a good value. Seriously, QUIT cherry picking info and words to try to justify to others that it makes sense because it DOESN'T... Oh, and Its not a good value compared to the TSX, nor is it a good value compared to the new MMC Accord, especially when the MMC gets 95% of its tech and then some for less.
the tech that you are referring are you can buy in Asia made in China. it is worthless.
TSX has double wishbone suspension, tight turning circle as good as Civic, much quieter and refined engine noise when you accelerate from 80 to 120mph. car is very implanted it pulled 0.86g on C&D test compared to 0.82g by Accord touring. The fit/finish much higher grade than Accord. very timeless aggressive design. Just look at a the 5 year old TSX.



Old 07-27-2015 | 11:04 AM
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As a former TSX owner, the 1G looked better.
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Old 07-27-2015 | 11:05 AM
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the 2nd gen tsx is the laughing stock of acura...
not sure why you are using it to make your point

oh wait, its cuz you own one...
Old 07-27-2015 | 11:05 AM
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Yup, looks like an extremely bloated first gen TSX
Old 07-27-2015 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
the tech that you are referring are you can buy in Asia made in China. it is worthless.
Um, all tech, regardless in what car it's in, including your TSX, and pretty much any electronic gizmo on this planet is made in China with cheap Asian parts. Your argument is null and void. And extremely retarded.

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TSX has double wishbone suspension, tight turning circle as good as Civic,
While double wishbone suspension may have the upper hand, it's clearly the only thing the TSX has going for it. Big whoop. 99% of people driving the TSX don't know the difference and wouldn't be able to tell the difference if asked. Turning radius? Seriously? That's your argument now?

Originally Posted by SSFTSX
much quieter and refined engine noise when you accelerate from 80 to 120mph.
Why in the fuck are you driving that fast anyway? And a high revving 4 cylinder is quieter than a V6? I want whatever your smoking. You're clearly high as fuck.

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car is very implanted it pulled 0.86g on C&D test compared to 0.82g by Accord touring.
So change the tires. Problem solved.

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The fit/finish much higher grade than Accord. very timeless aggressive design. Just look at a the 5 year old TSX.
Most think the 2nd gen TSX looks like a fat fucking pig, compared to the first gen. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Once again, your argument is null and void. And retarded.
Old 07-27-2015 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1
As a former TSX owner, the 1G looked better.
I also had the 1G TSX. The design is tall and narrow like Corrolla. and certainly much less refined and narrow seats than 2G TSX.




2G TSX is very high quality product. Look at the gauges and steering wheel, wide seats, console with cup holder, expensive mirror design.




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Old 07-27-2015 | 11:28 AM
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Why do you keep posting pictures of these cars? We all know what they look like...
Old 07-27-2015 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
there's certainly some cherry picking going on in here, but I don't think it's ssftsx. just sayin'.
What ever particle of credibility you had left around here has been obliterated with this post.
Old 07-27-2015 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
I'm seeing tons of mdx's and tlx's on the road lately. even starting to see rlx's more frequently. the new nsx packs a lot of value for a $150k super car. seems like things are looking up if you ask me.

...still hoping for some type-r or type-s tlx/ilx variants.
Are we living in a different world?

What kind of value are you talking about? There's no info on this car yet.

Still. no. freaking. spec.
Old 07-27-2015 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
2G TSX is very high quality product. Look at the gauges and steering wheel, wide seats, console with cup holder, expensive mirror design.
Now I know you're 100% trolling.

Gauges and steering wheel look no different than any of Hondas other offerings these days.

Wide seats? You must have a fat ass. You tout the 2G TSX as being super sporty, yet you complain about narrow seats? Give me a fucking break. Wide seats are for boats not sporty cars. Fail.

Console with cup holder? WoW!!! What car doesn't have that these days

Expensive mirror design? What the fuck does that mean?

You're a fucking troll. Give it up.
Old 07-27-2015 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Why do you keep posting pictures of these cars? We all know what they look like...
That's his thing. Just go with it.
Old 07-27-2015 | 12:20 PM
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You guys must be really bored. Why are you even replying to SSFTSX?

Although I'm having a chuckle. I wonder how much they spent on that "expensive mirror design".
Old 07-27-2015 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Now I know you're 100% trolling.

Gauges and steering wheel look no different than any of Hondas other offerings these days.

Wide seats? You must have a fat ass. You tout the 2G TSX as being super sporty, yet you complain about narrow seats? Give me a fucking break. Wide seats are for boats not sporty cars. Fail.

Console with cup holder? WoW!!! What car doesn't have that these days

Expensive mirror design? What the fuck does that mean?

You're a fucking troll. Give it up.
you must be joking. this your accord interior. dark and pedestrian. the 2010 Accord interior is even more embarrassment. oversize steering wheel. big turning circle. what a joke.

Old 07-27-2015 | 12:43 PM
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This thread should be a sticky now.
Old 07-27-2015 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Honestly, at this point, maybe Acura being a thing of the past is a good thing. Besides a different design language between the two (and admittedly, not hugely different), there is little difference between the two.

Kill the TLX. Let the Accord continue its reign.

Slap a Honda badge on the new NSX, like it will have in most places around the world.

Offer another trim level on the Civic and kill the ILX.

Bring the RDX over.

Kill the MDX by adding another trim level to the Pilot. Then again, spruce up the Pilot a bit more to make room for the RDX below it.

And the RLX? At this point, just kill it. What's the point.
Acura is kept alive mainly by MDX and RDX, and arguably TLX. Theoretically, what you said is do-able - adding higher trim(s) for Pilot, CRV, and Accord. However, can these Honda models command the same price as the Acura models? That's really doubtful IMO. Right now, Acura is just a way for Honda to charge people extra money for a little bit of extra content.


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There have always been a lot of mdxs around. It's Acura's bread and butter. But to keep the company going because of one model doesn't make much sense. The new accord is snipping at the TLXs heals in a major way. Sales numbers still aren't that great for the TLX and by killing it off it would likely help the accord sales.
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Accord Touring is $34K. Base 2.4 TLX is $32K and it won't have all the tech the MMC Accord will be getting which includes:

- Apple CarPlay and Android Auto (not available on any TLX)
- New 7-inch Display Audio touchscreen interface and HD radio
- Honda Sensing™ which includes:
  • Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (CMBS™)
  • Forward Collision Warning (FCW)
  • Lane Keeping Assist (LKAS)
  • Road Departure Mitigation (RDM)
  • Lane Departure Warning (LDW)
  • Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)
- Multi-Angle Rearview Camera
- Remote engine start
- 19-inch wheels
- Heated rear seats
- 60/40 split and folding rear seat
- Front and rear parking sensors
- Rain-sensing windshield wipers


Looking at 2015 Acura TLX | Features | Compare Models | Acura.com, to get similar features, you'd have to get the 2.4 TLX with Tech package which is $36K. For $2k more, what does it have that the Accord Touring doesn't? P-AWS, an 8 speed DCT, an Integrated Dynamics System, perforated Milano premium leather-trimmed interior, and a slightly quieter cabin.

For $2K less, what does the Accord Touring have that the 2.4 TLX w/Tech doesn't? A V6 engine, upgraded 19-inch wheels, Remote engine start, Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), Front and rear parking sensors, Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (CMBS™), Road Departure Mitigation (RDM), LED fog lights

A similarly equipped TLX would be the $40,000 3.5 TLX with Tech package. For $6K more, what will it have that the Accord Touring won't? 18-inch (not 19-inch like on the Accord) wheels, P-AWS, a 9-speed auto, an Integrated Dynamics System, 8-way power seat, perforated Milano premium leather-trimmed interior, and a slightly quieter cabin.

The 2.4 TLX with Tech and 3.5 TLX with Tech sure looks a lot like an Accord Touring to me. And the Accord Touring is $2,000 to $6,000 less.
I think the Accord would almost always win any value contest against the TLX. That's the way it is since its sales volume is like 8-9 times higher than the TLX.
Old 07-27-2015 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
you make as much sense as SSFTSX...
says the guy who thinks honda/acura should can the mdx
Old 07-27-2015 | 03:31 PM
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Are we living in a different world?

What kind of value are you talking about? There's no info on this car yet.

Still. no. freaking. spec.
we don't know the hp/tq, but we do know that it has a ttv6 and two electronic motors. similar set ups tend go for much higher dollars.
Old 07-27-2015 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
says the guy who thinks honda/acura should can the mdx
No, Honda should can all of Acura and put everything under one name.
Old 07-27-2015 | 03:56 PM
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dumbass is back and it is not SSFTSX.
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Old 07-27-2015 | 04:14 PM
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the 2nd gen tsx is the laughing stock of acura...
not sure why you are using it to make your point
Because chrome door handles, brah! Chrome = premium/luxury, brah!




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Old 07-27-2015 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Why do you keep posting pictures of these cars? We all know what they look like...
Because the more pics you post, the more your point is validated. Duh!

Compare https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post14202684

to https://acurazine.com/forums/automot.../#post14202824

More convincing, right?
Old 07-27-2015 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
we don't know the hp/tq, but we do know that it has a ttv6 and two electronic motors. similar set ups tend go for much higher dollars.
So, you think it's already a nicely valued package.... without knowing how much it costs, how much power it puts out and how fast it will run around the track.

That's logical.
Old 07-27-2015 | 07:14 PM
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That is like saying "Civic has 4 cylinders and s2000 also has 4 cylinders, therefore, they must be the same"
Old 07-27-2015 | 07:28 PM
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So, you think it's already a nicely valued package.... without knowing how much it costs, how much power it puts out and how fast it will run around the track.

That's logical.
we know "more than 550hp" and around "$150k."
Old 07-27-2015 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by skd2k1
we know "more than 550hp" and around "$150k."
Say what?



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God damn that Z06 looks fucking sick. WTF.
Old 07-28-2015 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + BRZ
God damn that Z06 looks fucking sick. WTF.
Remember, Honda hates you.

On what fvcking planet is a 2G TSX a good car? It was and still is a massive epic fail on Acura's part which was made even worse by adding the V6 option. The 1G TSX takes a steaming sh1t on the 2G every day and twice on Sunday.
Old 07-28-2015 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Honestly, at this point, maybe Acura being a thing of the past is a good thing. Besides a different design language between the two (and admittedly, not hugely different), there is little difference between the two.

Kill the TLX. Let the Accord continue its reign.

Slap a Honda badge on the new NSX, like it will have in most places around the world.

Offer another trim level on the Civic and kill the ILX.

Bring the RDX over.

Kill the MDX by adding another trim level to the Pilot. Then again, spruce up the Pilot a bit more to make room for the RDX below it.

And the RLX? At this point, just kill it. What's the point.
This, so very much this. The only reason Acura still exists is for the badge whores who want to pay an extra $5k-$10k to pry off the H and put an A on the hood.
Old 07-28-2015 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
The only reason Acura still exists is for the badge whores who want to pay an extra $5k-$10k to pry off the H and put an A on the hood.
... only to later pry off the A and put an H back on.



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Old 07-28-2015 | 07:08 PM
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Looks so much more "right" with the Honda emblem. LOL
Old 07-28-2015 | 07:09 PM
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somehow it does.

Maybe because that is what the cars were supposed to be in the first place?
Old 07-28-2015 | 07:11 PM
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That's why I did the Honda Inspire conversion when I had the 2G TL-S...hahaha
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I am sure they are converting theirs to Acura in Japan.
Old 07-28-2015 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I am sure they are converting theirs to Acura in Japan.
The Japanese people will ask "What the heck is Acura ? Is it some kind of raw fish roe ?"

It is very sad indeed that the Acura brand doesn't have a global footprint, especially more so by its absence in the domestic HOME market.



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