Acura: TLX News
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well... Honda does not want to spend $$ investing in Acura.
But Acura will be facing another set of problem if Honda decided to make Acura a global brand.
#1. Acura just does not have enough products to compete globally.
#2. The Honda + will definitely hurt Acura because Globally, especially in Asian market, Honda cars are 1 level above N/A cars in terms of offered packages and technology. So what does Acura have to differentiate themselves from Honda there when they are actually struggling in the U.S.
#3. See what happened to Acura in China. You thought people in the US are brand whores, wait until you see what happens in China and other asian countries.
Almost all sucessful brand in the US will be recognized as premium globally. So If Honda wants to make Acura a global brand, they have to start with the US first. When Acura can successfully compete with Lexus, then we can talk about globalization.
But Acura will be facing another set of problem if Honda decided to make Acura a global brand.
#1. Acura just does not have enough products to compete globally.
#2. The Honda + will definitely hurt Acura because Globally, especially in Asian market, Honda cars are 1 level above N/A cars in terms of offered packages and technology. So what does Acura have to differentiate themselves from Honda there when they are actually struggling in the U.S.
#3. See what happened to Acura in China. You thought people in the US are brand whores, wait until you see what happens in China and other asian countries.
Almost all sucessful brand in the US will be recognized as premium globally. So If Honda wants to make Acura a global brand, they have to start with the US first. When Acura can successfully compete with Lexus, then we can talk about globalization.
Last edited by oonowindoo; 07-28-2015 at 07:13 PM.
Honda has always had relatively small sales in Japan. Don't know why. The success of Honda/Acura in the US and Canada has been the pillar of Honda's growth for 40 years.
I drive a Subata.
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It has 5 feet shorter turning circle than 1G TSX. more safety and refinement. wider seats. more quieter engine at higher speeds between 80 to 130mph.
225/50/17 tire circumference almost exactly matches 225/45/18. Acura really thought about size specifications. which is not case with TLX OEM fitting.
In EU they have Type S version that defeated Volvo torque vectoring sedan. Even Volvo has more technology and higher quality materials.
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for Christmas, i'm going to get you a plunger.
because you always like to bring up shit from the past.
because you always like to bring up shit from the past.
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the tech that you are referring are you can buy in Asia made in China. it is worthless.
TSX has double wishbone suspension, tight turning circle as good as Civic, much quieter and refined engine noise when you accelerate from 80 to 120mph. car is very implanted it pulled 0.86g on C&D test compared to 0.82g by Accord touring. The fit/finish much higher grade than Accord. very timeless aggressive design. Just look at a the 5 year old TSX.
TSX has double wishbone suspension, tight turning circle as good as Civic, much quieter and refined engine noise when you accelerate from 80 to 120mph. car is very implanted it pulled 0.86g on C&D test compared to 0.82g by Accord touring. The fit/finish much higher grade than Accord. very timeless aggressive design. Just look at a the 5 year old TSX.
Expensive mirror design??? Yea, cause that looks SO much more expensive of a design than the accord. When you come back to reality and stop doing come back and try to make logical debates.
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And it should, its was a NEW model replacing an old one.
Seriously. Seriously?? HOW MANY PEOPLE GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT THIS OTHER THAN YOU?? Ill give you a hint.........
Wait for it......
ZERO
Seriously. Seriously?? HOW MANY PEOPLE GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT THIS OTHER THAN YOU?? Ill give you a hint.........
Wait for it......
ZERO
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Yeah, every time I'm cruising at 130mph I'm always saying to myself that I wish the engine was quieter. Then my midnight desert runs across the border would be much more secure.
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He might be the most quotable poster on this board. Ever.
He might be the most quotable poster on this board. Ever.
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Only if the car is going to be Uncle Bens...
No, they are actually selling Acuras with Honda badges everywhere else in the world. No one gives a shit about Acura outside of the US and even then it's a stretch.
Any car cruising at 80-130mph (which anyone with a TSX is never going to do) should be making a shit ton of noise.
I actually lol'ed at this.
No, they are actually selling Acuras with Honda badges everywhere else in the world. No one gives a shit about Acura outside of the US and even then it's a stretch.
2G TSX is class leading car when it was introduce early 2008.
It has 5 feet shorter turning circle than 1G TSX. more safety and refinement. wider seats. more quieter engine at higher speeds between 80 to 130mph.
225/50/17 tire circumference almost exactly matches 225/45/18. Acura really thought about size specifications. which is not case with TLX OEM fitting.
In EU they have Type S version that defeated Volvo torque vectoring sedan. Even Volvo has more technology and higher quality materials.
It has 5 feet shorter turning circle than 1G TSX. more safety and refinement. wider seats. more quieter engine at higher speeds between 80 to 130mph.
225/50/17 tire circumference almost exactly matches 225/45/18. Acura really thought about size specifications. which is not case with TLX OEM fitting.
In EU they have Type S version that defeated Volvo torque vectoring sedan. Even Volvo has more technology and higher quality materials.
I actually lol'ed at this.
This the most perfect car honda designed ever. small overhangs. very logical interior design.
1G TSX has larger overhangs relative to length.
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Now I'm wondering if you're just trolling or what.
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Saw a Euro Accord (aka 2G TSX) police car in London a few weeks ago.
I know, has nothing to do with anything. But, then, neither does most of this conversation.
I know, has nothing to do with anything. But, then, neither does most of this conversation.
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Lol, the fact that he brought up the mirrors again was worth a good chuckle. Thanks Troll!
they built it for 7 years 2G TSX. Honda made mistake and not updating anything especially visible things to consumers like push button start, touch screen controls, better than 5speed transmission. even though fuel economic not so bad with 5speed auto.
This the most perfect car honda designed ever. small overhangs. very logical interior design.
1G TSX has larger overhangs relative to length.
This the most perfect car honda designed ever. small overhangs. very logical interior design.
1G TSX has larger overhangs relative to length.
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the 2G TSX was so fantastic. That's why you see three 1G TSXs on the road, for every 2G
I also like how SSFT always posts pictures of cars never available in north america.
SSFT, please don't stop. You provide all of AZ with unimaginable amounts of humor
I also like how SSFT always posts pictures of cars never available in north america.
SSFT, please don't stop. You provide all of AZ with unimaginable amounts of humor
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Canada.
It's Yumcha! He's been trolling us all this time.
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2G TSX has huge presence.
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nice Accord.
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I appreciate that the TSX was not fantastic. It was just the right size and price for my budget.
I barely notice 2Gs on the road other than that flashy red one (which I love, by the way, but I'm a bit biased)
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I'll be honest, I'm furious Honda/Acura only puts this color out for SE models. That TLX prototype was the best looking of all the TLX's.
I appreciate that the TSX was not fantastic. It was just the right size and price for my budget.
I barely notice 2Gs on the road other than that flashy red one (which I love, by the way, but I'm a bit biased)
I appreciate that the TSX was not fantastic. It was just the right size and price for my budget.
I barely notice 2Gs on the road other than that flashy red one (which I love, by the way, but I'm a bit biased)
The 1G was easy. Nav or non-nav. Auto or MT. Done.
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It's a running theme with Honda as they did the same thing with the "Sport" version of the latest Accord. Apparently, drivers of "sport" oriented cars have no desire to know where they are going.
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Acura was afraid that people forgot that their car is Honda. So they added the SE to remind them. Apparently, the SE drivers also cannot handle 200hp and Navi at the same time.
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I understand separating out option packages so that Navi can be available with "Sport" or other trim versions, but making Navi unavailable on any trim in a premium/lux sedan doesn't make sense to me.
OTOH, maybe the accountants have run the numbers for TLX production costs and it decided that most people would use smart phones for navigation anyway.
I'll just blame the accountants.
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I understand separating out option packages so that Navi can be available with "Sport" or other trim versions, but making Navi unavailable on any trim in a premium/lux sedan doesn't make sense to me.
OTOH, maybe the accountants have run the numbers for TLX production costs and it decided that most people would use smart phones for navigation anyway.
I'll just blame the accountants.
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How about the Accord Sport having no rear seat vents behind the center console. Apparently, Sport buyers are supposed to a car for singles who are poor kids and have no family to drive around. No Lanewatch either, because Sport drivers aren't supposed to signal when they change lanes to trigger the camera, either.
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How about the Accord Sport having no rear seat vents behind the center console. Apparently, Sport buyers are supposed to a car for singles who are poor kids and have no family to drive around. No Lanewatch either, because Sport drivers aren't supposed to signal when they change lanes to trigger the camera, either.
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How about the Accord Sport having no rear seat vents behind the center console. Apparently, Sport buyers are supposed to a car for singles who are poor kids and have no family to drive around. No Lanewatch either, because Sport drivers aren't supposed to signal when they change lanes to trigger the camera, either.
When you buy Sports.. fuck the passenger and the laws.
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Remember when our parents used to say "Back in the days, the things used to be _________, it was much better"
I think we start sounding like our parents now.
I think we start sounding like our parents now.