Moog-Type-S

UKwrath33

I'm hoping Acura steps it up in power for the TLX to truly compete, on paper at least, with the likes of Lexus, Infiniti, etc and provide a base model with 300hp, which leaves the door open for an open for an awesome type s model or whatever option for the future.

neuronbob

Sounds like this guy is on Acurazine. He has a point. The fact that we (me included) are goggly-eyed at a car that is actually NOT ugly and has some features of several other cars says something about how far Acura has fallen. Other posters in this very thread have said similarly.

When Acura started, Soichiro Honda was still alive. Mr. Honda believed in making ballsy moves like starting a Japanese luxury car company.

Acura is now a shell of its former self. Soichiro-san is likely rolling in his grave saying something along the lines of "failure is the first step toward success....but damn, Acura, you all are like the Cleveland Browns!"

Hopefully the 4G TL was Acura's "holy shit, I've hit rock bottom" moment, and the 5G TL will give enough momentum for something groundbreaking other than the NSX.

Fingers crossed.

PS: Don't EVEN get me started on the Cleveland Clowns. Grrrrrrrrrr.......

Joneill44

The company redesign in 5-8yrs cant come any quicker

oonowindoo

Yah because average 4 banger TLX buyer will care about 0-60 and to achieve that time (If it is actually 6.6), they have to launch and rev the shit out of that thing with lightning fast finger flicking on those DCT.

IS engines are boring but at least you can say IS250 got a V6. a POS V6 but to average buyer. it is a V6.

VTEC Racer

Seriously? I think you're running out of straws to grab.

oonowindoo

ES350... one of the most reliable POS ever.

i will take 4G TL with beak over ES350.

MTEAZY

This guy is smoking the good stuff.


The car is supposed to be a modern followup to the 3G, not some M5 beater.

oonowindoo

I think he was expecting something "NEW", not a 4 banger from Accord and 3.5L V6 from 15 years ago.

I think he will shut up if the TLX had I4 Turbo and 3.5L Turbo.

H_CAR

It's still slow and thirsty. In fact, it's slower than the current TSX with the 5AT. People associate power with a V6, something the IS is missing.

The Q50 is easily Acura's biggest Japanese competition for the TLX, and even that has a rather 'outdated' power train.

Yumcha

But, I WANT an M5 beater from Acura/Honda!


If say, the Mugen Legend Max ever was a production car, it COULD'VE given us something to brag about that could take on the almighty M5!

H_CAR

It's not a 3.5L V6 from 15 years ago.

The current TL has 305 hp, more than a 335. The NEW DI V6 has even more and it has more torque and is smoother V6 as well.

The RLX weighs 3900 pounds and does 0-60 in 5.7 seconds. The MDX weighs 4400 (?) pounds and does 0-60 in 6.3. The TLX will be even better.

oonowindoo

That is one of the reasons why Q50 is not selling well.

Does TLX want to follow the death of Q50?

Black Tire

They blew it with the ILX...I think they will blow it with this TLX.

oonowindoo

I like most of the ppl here think TLX will sell if the price is right.

But it is not as good as it could have been.

VR1

Not exactly sure what the Jalponik guy is trying to say.. He's dissapointed that Acura hasn't really made anything exciting, and just made another Sedan?

What was he expecting? It's Acura. TLX is not ugly, sounds decent, has an optional 3.5 w/ AWD or 2.4 w/ DCT. It checked all the things I was looking for. The current K24Z3 2.4 makes 200hp. For comparison purposes a 320i makes 180hp and costs 33k base. I'm guessing the TLX will also cost 33k base and will have 215hp.. Not to mention it will cost thousands less then a similarily equipped 320i, and will have a DCT. Not sure what the problem is here. The 3.5 Im guessing will have around 300hp and cost around 38-40k. That places it in the same range as a base 328xi with 240hp, and the Q50 with 318 hp.. Not to mention Acura's engines are N/A. Still don't understand what they were expecting.. Acura made a decent looking car that's reasonably priced, has decent specs, has a high revving engine, and sounds decent. Considering this is the same company that just made the ILX and RLX, this is a massive step up imo. I know for sure I'll be geting one soon.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Can we please ban 0-60 time shit talk from this topic?

Jesus.

oonowindoo

current FWD 3.5L TL has 305 hp?
So what if it has more advertised hp than 335? i can guarantee you that it is not faster.

The new DI V6 has more? than what? then 3.5L V6 280hp or the 3.7L V6? 305hp

I am not even going to reply to those 0-60 times, because that is not really the bench standard to measure how fast the car is.

MTEAZY

I dont see whats wrong with J-series? It's not what the Germans are doing? Is that it? You think we should all be driving BMW. Accord with dinosaur J-series traps 1/4 mile faster than 328 with much better NVH. It is comparable with IS350 and ATS 3.6. Why would AWD 9AT TLX be much worse.

Moog-Type-S

Does the ES have a 4 banger option?

Moog-Type-S

Calling the torque police, calling the torque police.

VR1

Haters gonna hate. There's nothing with the engines at their price points, so why change 'em?

VR1

The F30 320i currently 18 lb-ft more then the K24 used in the '13 TSX. I guarantee you the one used in the TLX will be pretty close to 184 lb-ft. Acuras current 3.5 only has 1 lb-ft of torque less then the F30 328i lmao.. I guarentee you the 3.5 in the TLX will have more then that. Not exactly sure what your point is as both engines will have pretty close or more torque then offered in the 320i/328i.

Moog-Type-S

^^ Apples to Oranges

oonowindoo

Nothing is wrong with the J series. it is 2014, time for something new. like add a suerpcharger or a turbo.

i hate 328, i think it drives like shit if you read anything i posted before. But i seriously think 328 is faster in a straight line race. I dont want everyone to drive BMW, if it is not because no one else offers 6mt RWD 300+ HP cars, i would not be driving 335.

And why are you comparing J series V6 with 328? you should comparing the 2.4L 4 cylinder and 328.

oonowindoo

kid, you have to look at the torque curve, not just #s. Just because it has the #, doesn't mean you will feel it.

FI engines delivers torque at low RPM, so you can actually Feel it. Except if you put a turbo that is as big as a basketball.

VR1

Because similarily equipped, a 328i will be 8-9k more then the 2.4 TLX. How much does a decently equipped 335i cost these days? 55k? Price wise the 2.4 lines up with the 320i and the V6 the 328i. No one in their right mind is going to compare a 55k monster 335i to a 45k V6 TLX.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Okay. I have a car and driver magazine in front of me right now.

Who wants to magazine race?

Come at me.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Holy shit, does your dad work at Acura?

Moog-Type-S

You stop with your logic, facts, and reason.
There is no room for that in this thread!

Moog-Type-S

I bet my Road & Track will beat your C&D.

Bring it!!!!

VR1

I still prefer N/A engines to Turbo engines.. Even if FI engines have more power/torque at lower RPM's. Thier just more fun too me. I drive at 5-7 rpm all day and enjoy it. Not to mention turbo engines cannot make the same noises N/A engines do. My mom has a f30 328i, I have a 2nd gen TSX. Which one has more power? 328i. Which one has more torque? 328i. Which one is FI? 328i. Which one do I enjoy driving more? TSX. Why? it makes the right kind of noises and makes you work to get every ast drop of power from it.

VR1

No, just expressing my opinion. No one is going to compare a 3.5 TLX to a F30 335i. Not even in the same league of cars.

AZuser

300 HP from a naturally aspirate 2.4 liter engine?

oonowindoo

Um... yah that is going to be hard to find. Let me see.. oh found it.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

I'm giving you a pass on a lot of your dumb posts because your a 16 yr old.

If you were a 26 yr old and posted the same stuff, I would have trolled the beak out of you all day long.

VR1

Alright, that guy well. But he's basically the only one.

oonowindoo

yah you are talking to a guy who have owned #s of S2000.

But you have to understand different engine suits different cars.
In cars like S2000, Si, TSX, ILX, it is ok to put "fun" engines.

I am not sure about TLX.

VR1

lol it's an opinion. I prefer driving high revving N/A engines over FI engines. Why? They make nicer noises and I find them more fun. For comparison I've driven the F30 328i, the current gen. 2.0T A5 cabriolet, 2.0T VW CC and the older 2.0T Passat. Maybe it's because I've never driven a higher end FI vehicle?

ttribe

Big difference between a turbo-4 and a turbo-6. I've driven the current iteration of the 328 with the 4 and it's terrible. My 335 is worlds different.