Yumcha

OUCH.

phile

I liked that grille. Their mistake was putting it on the TL. I don't mind the 5-point as their signature. But it needs to be refined, otherwise it's just a Mazda, which btw if anyone's paying attention, they kinda took the smiling grille off of the last gen Mazda3 wth the nose-ring band within the grille.

oonowindoo

Negative review Already???

phile

Hmm maybe something the mods can do about it?

jayhawk815

I really like the look of the new TLX. I absolutely love the look of the profile and rear, especially at rear 3/4 view. I even like the front. I hated the initial design of the 4G TL, and strongly disliked the refreshed version, primarily due to the beak. I really think it works in this latest iteration though.

I've been looking a little at the entry-lux class recently and very few entries really impress me. Either their designs don't do anything for me, out-of-warranty repair costs scare me, or the powertrains are carryovers in need of improvement. If Acura can bring out the production version without screwing it up, give it a nice interior and price it competitively(i.e., cheaper than most of the comp), I'll give it some strong consideration.

Ruby

Love it! SO glad Acura got it right this time. I have a feeling I am going to have a 15 TLX in my driveway soon. I think its aggressive but clean. Unlike Lexus and BMW. Those cars are just straight up fugly. Audi is looking long in the tooth too.

chill_dog

I like the side (except for the character line) and the front; don't like the rear. I expect it will sell well enough, though.

Ken1997TL

That 'reviewer' hasn't even driven it, doesn't know the price or even the interior features/quality.

So if you take anything he says seriously, you have problems.

Yumcha

As a rule, I cannot censor unless it gets personal...so, attack on race, religion, gender, and etc.

MTEAZY's arguments may be a bit...unconventional...but, he's just continuing on the point of Acura's designs versus the competition and what HE thinks are comparable.





Am I too Gandhi here?

Fibonacci

I'm totally cool with DEEPLY DISCOUNTED POWER PLENUMS FOR MANKIND

I'm a bit surprised that they haven't gone more to the amended plenum on the NSX, that's the best twist so far.

Yumcha

Well, let's hope all his initial snapshot reviews are just based strictly at an aesthetic level.

He's just saying that the TLX appears boring to him...which he has a right to do.



But, sure...it's possible to argue the review is premature but he is at the auto show and he does have to report which cars have that "buzz". And in some of the reveals (i.e. the FT-1, Z06), we do have some show-stoppers.

Moog-Type-S

That's not a very good business model going forward for Honda. :wink:

oonowindoo

I expected more from you guys. come on.

Moog-Type-S

Underwhelming car = underwhelming thread

Car does not excite nor offend....so does this thread.

torqued

Or a Honda Element owner

Mizouse

TL1999

what is the spec on the TLX GT? this car interest me!

McMilli501

Is there any more info regarding engine options?

So far:
2.4L NA 4
3.5L NA V6

More specifically, I have read numbers anywhere from 220-240hp for the 2.4. Can someone confirm this yet, or is it too early? At first thought, I want to say that a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder does not provide enough torque to move this size car (like I would want it to). However, information released today seems to highlight their 8 speed DCT which will keep things in efficient torque ranges. Audi does this well with their 2.0Ts and DCTs but there is a major factor here... a turbo! It provides awesome torque numbers. Unless Honda/Acura has something up their sleeve (IE: a turbo 4 cyl, similar to the new rumoured Civic Type R) then I am very skeptical that this 2.4 will provide sufficient numbers.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Everyone's a critic...

Having just spent some serious seat time in an RLX for the last couple of weeks, I feel like it is still valid to argue that Acura makes great driving cars. In fact, I would have no qualms rating my initial drive of the RLX equally as favorably, and possibly more favorably, as the 535d I tested not that long ago. The engineering is still top notch, but their designs, infotainment, and marketing have long lagged behind the competition. Plus, their staunch refusal to adopt direct injection when everyone else was doing it and seeing huge fuel economy benefits from it was foolish.

Now, with the TLX, they have addressed the design issue with something that is certainly not groundbreaking or earth shattering, but is clean, elegant, and likely to still look good after a decade or more. The infotainment is likely updated to be the dual screen setup of the RLX and MDX, which I rather like and found generally intuitive and easy to use. The motors are direct injected and will likely see both some performance improvements as well as fuel economy gains. They have also largely sorted out the EPS issue and have demonstrated that they are clearly capable of doing EPS in a way that isn't completely devoid of feel and feedback.

Given that we still have limited details on how this car will actually perform, I am reluctant to declare this a total success, but I think calling it an unmitigated disaster is also hyperbole at best and disingenuous at worst. It may not be as exciting as a limited production car like the Q50 Eau Rouge or a more purebred performance coupe like the Toyota FT-1, but those cars are not mainstream and are not intended to be the bulk of a company's sales, whereas the TLX will likely be a make or break point in Acura's sedan business. Sure driving "excitement" at and auto show for the media is important, but I think even more important is driving "interest" from real world buyers outside of the enthusiasts.

Just remember that at the end of the day, as much as we enthusiasts like to bitch and moan, the best selling cars in the world are the plain vanilla Honda Accord and Toyota Camry and that the 3G TL, for all its faults, was at one point the best selling "luxury" car in world. Perhaps we should all reserve some judgement for when this car actually starts to hit dealer lots and there is an opportunity for real world impressions from actual people.

Legend2TL

You're wrong, Acura sedans today like their competition have a simple tiered platform with sizes/features that match up to their competition. Pretty basic marketing and product positioning.

The older Acura products that were a niche were the Integra/RSX, NSX and ZDX since majority of their main brand competitors didn't have a equivalent model. You could also argue the CL as well.

dom

Where are these posts? I've seen nothing but positives in this thread. Complete 360 from the 4G reveal.

Besides Moog of course who would hate a 458 with an Acura badge on it.

MeehowsBRZ

It's a BMW, obviously its beautiful, sleek, and has great grille implementation.

MuGen7Modulo

One word.

WINNER!


... question is, will this be JDM Inspire?! (back to 2G TL deal)

phile

But who are you accusing that of? I have seen no such hyperbole. Everything that may be construed as negative has been entirely in discussion about the car's design. And even then the usual peeps have given the thumbs up. It's meatzy's trolling that makes it seem like things are worse than it is.

ttribe

Oh, let it go. No one's praising the i3. Which, BTW, I think is horrible but I hope they sell these things by the boatload, thus improving their CAFE number, and allowing them to continue to make 500+hp M cars.

91lgndsdn

By Nick Kurczewski / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 4:00 PM



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/aut...#ixzz2qQXX0gAG
Acura appears to have finally found its footing again in the luxury market. The brand lost the plot somewhat, especially in terms of styling – the controversial “plenum” grilles didn’t help (they’re usually referred to as “the beak”).
RELATED: 2015 ACURA TLX PROTOTYPE IS SLEEK, EFFICIENT REPLACEMENT OF TL
The TLX has an attractive exterior, along with a wide range of good stuff happening beneath the sheet-metal. A 2.4-liter 4-cylinder and 3.5-liter V-6 is available, as is a choice of front or all-wheel-drive. Acura’s all-wheel steering system is also optional, and should give the TLX incredibly nimble handling.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/aut...#ixzz2qQXgO2Rn



A different perspective! Definitely will have to wait and see it. No M/T will be disappointing for the first year, but eventually I'm sure they'll produce one. shhhhhh.

AZuser

And as long as they don't give the TLX a retarded looking center stack like the RLX's

ttribe

It's the voices in his head...shhhhhh.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

They are spread throughout the dozen or so threads about the TLX, but I would say the single biggest offender is probably the thread titled "The TLX is crap." It is not specific to this thread, or even this site, though some of the complaints I have seen here make go .

VTEC Racer

Looks awesome!

AZuser

It was started by a 4G TL owner. Of course 4G TL owners are going to say the "TLX is CRAP".... they still need to convince themselves that the 4G TL doesn't look like and that their purchase was a good/smart decision.

And Acura hasn't even released pricing or interior pics.

VR1

Must... ignore... the... fanboys...

Why does it have a 9spd? How often would you have to shift (Assuming this car has a Sport mode with paddles like the TSX) anyways?

Also, I heard somewhere on this forum that it well have Brembo's. Any truth to this?

cjTL

iTrader: (2)

Referring to the double screens? Those will be in the TLX. It's Honda/Acura's new thing...like MyFord Touch, iDrive, MMI, etc. MDX has it too.

AZuser

No. It's the way it flares out up top and how the control knob is separated from the screen and placed down below.

Then there's the push Start/Stop button way down below by the knee.

I know the MDX center stack has that flared design too, but it looks a little better and the control knob is better located too. It looks more cohesive.

Yumcha

dom

You made the mistake of going into the TL section

xenonhid

FINALLY, they fixed their styling. This style looks great, especially the rear end. But its a little too late.



Because, this is what the TL should have looked like in 2009. I think it also looks a bit too similar to the RLX, so they should offer the TLX as a coupe as well to differentiate it from the RLX.


2009+ TL's rear end = Fail



2015 TLX rear end = This is what the TL should have looked like in 2009, Acura is step behind, because, now its gonna be even harder to earn back the loyal clients who left Acura because of the horrible design changes in 2009

cjTL

iTrader: (2)

Ohh got ya. I too am not a fan of the RLX center stack compared to the MDX though. The leather wrapped around the vents/lower controls is a bit strange.

cjTL

iTrader: (2)

Anyway. TLX. Fusion lease is up fall 2016...I'll be graduated from college and gainfully employed. This car will most definitely be on the list. Good move, Acura. Even my 55 year old father (who was utterly repulsed by the 4G) likes it.

Really curious about pricing. For a second I thought it'd be way more than the 4G, but at the same time, they axed the TSX and have this now. Who knows.

MeehowsBRZ

4G owners must live in a bizarro world.

Please, continue to take the fact that BMW DOES make some ugly cars personally for some reason.