Yumcha

On that logic, let's try to take the 1-Series (the cheapest of the German brands) et al and compare it to Acura's cheapest car...the ILX.


Yeah, nope. Try again.

Yumcha

Meanwhile, while some of us attempts that comparison, somewhere...over in Germany...those darned engineers and execs at BMW et al are laughing their heads off and all the way to the bank.

Moog-Type-S

Very serious is he.

It was Acura that spurred the movement.

Everyone knows that!

ttribe

Not to mention that all three of the aforementioned German manufacturers have been selling A- and B-class cars in Europe for a very long time.

Moog-Type-S

Well, you are reaching there, bringing the comparo to such a high water mark as BMW.

Let's compare the ILX to the A3 and CLA with their turbo charged engines...and....aww never mind. You win again with your logic and facts.

Yumcha

Seriously, WHY ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO COMPARE ACURA TO BMW AND THE GERMANS?!??!???!??


This Asian boat has sailed LONG ago. MOVE ON, people!!

The ONLY Japanese car manufacturer that even has a SHOT to be in the same conversation with the German Big Three is Toyota/Lexus. Period.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Well, it's an extra choice for consumers. You know, people used to complain how the 2G RL only came in AWD form.

Just wondering, does BMW combine all the 3-series variants into one sales number (i.e. sedan, coupes, convertibles, wagons, 325i, 328i, 330i, x-drive, M, CSL, etc)? Or are the numbers above just for the 330i sedan? I'm actually not sure about this. My understanding is that, for the 2004 to 2005 TL, you can pick 5AT, 6MT, or a-spec.

Moog-Type-S

Yumcha

Um...yeah: https://acurazine.com/forums/5g-tlx-2015-2020-415/going-trade-my-lexus-tlx-tlx-going-hit-903289/

MTEAZY

"Huge" is relative. If I'm not mistaken you were drooling over this a few days ago.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Can we stop quoting the TLX images of front angle?

I just had some nice lunch.

oonowindoo

I believe it was a combination of all 3 series. But i am not sure if M3 is in there.
It is only Acura's fault that they can only afford to offer limited choices.

I think from 2014+ 3 series sales # r going to drop because of 4 series. But with the addition of 320, i might be wrong. i see a 3 series every 30 secs here in LA.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Yeah because that's something to actually drool over, you idiot.

MTEAZY

Joneill44

I personally think lexus over did it with their grills

Moog-Type-S

No beak here! Love it!

phile

I think it is a bit too blinged out with the chrome, could be a bit more subtle/refined and still be aggressive. But other than that, this looks to be a winner. Still not impressed with those jewel headlights. They work well, but there's no design to them. they're just there. That is what separates Audi from Acura, and Audi still has the upper hand in the design category.

I'm hoping they don't bling out the interior in the same way in order to try to make it flashy.

MTEAZY

What a nice, proportional, non-5-point grille.

phile

you are trolling hard in this thread.

Moog-Type-S

Now that was brilliant!!!
That made my day

MTEAZY

Oh my goodness this makes me want to take my pants off.

AZuser

Yeah, it's every variant of the 3 series. If it's a 3 series, it's included in the #. But then again, H_CAR did say 3 series. He didn't specify 325, 330, etc.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Just ban this Meaty dumbass.

He's been doing this in every topic for the longest time.

Yumcha

I'm kinda sorry I even went there.


Sometimes being a moderator, you just do some dirty things that requires 10-14 showers afterwards.

Fibonacci

Moogs might need to put the hate bucket away. In person it actually looks pretty good. They didn't have the interior open which was mildly disappointing. Didn't catch if they were still going to offer a 6MT.


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Note to Acura, ditch the goofy two tone shadow wheels.

oonowindoo

Too young. One day he will realize that his personal opinion like ours don't mean shit in this world.

AZuser

Careful, man. You don't want to be put on his "not cool" list.

oonowindoo

sorry to tell you that this is a prototype, not a production version. After the production version is released, you would wish they kept the 2 tone 20s.

phile

Lexus went way overboard with their design language, same with Infiniti. Whereas Acura needed to dial up, those two needed to dial down. With this TLX, Acura has figured out that balance. They now need to master finesse, it's still a bit heavy handed in some ways.

ttribe

I can't bring myself to post in the "ITT" thread just for that reason. I'm quite sure my fragile ego can't handle the rejection.

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

He's been on my "Water S" list for a long time.

Moog-Type-S

I already said it looks good......for an Acura

Fibonacci

Thanks for the brilliant insight, but other than mild revisions to the front fascia and perhaps the rear bumper, we're looking at a stock TLX.

With smaller wheels also.

Moog-Type-S

Acura by far did NOT need to dial up the front grille department.
We saw what happened when they did that with the 4G TL

What Acura needed and still needs is a new corporate front end.
The current pointed nose, 5 point grille/beak is dated, goofy, and polarizing.

I would have hoped they TLX would have kick started a new look for Acura.

I guess we will have to wait at minimum another 5 years to see what they do next.

Acura has been running with their 1995 CL-X concept front end forever now.
Can you believe that design is nearly 2 decades old already?

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

He's talking about that wheels.

oonowindoo

and the mirror and exhaust outlets.

You know the mild revisions you are talking about could be the stupid Amber DRL in with a fog light for the front bumper and make it look like a 4G with LED.

oonowindoo

i wasn't too clear about that?

91lgndsdn

LA Times,
By Jerry Hirsch
January 14, 2014, 12:47 p.m.

Misses:

Acura TLX

"The car entries from Acura are not very competitive. Acura does well on SUVs but is still for the large part putting Acura names on Honda vehicles. That doesn’t provide a good value. It doesn’t bring anything to the table. It looks like a vanilla mid-size sedan. It might as well be a Ford Fusion."
Unfortunately, I tend to agree. In a way it's o.k.,... I'll just keep modding my 4G SH-AWD 6SPD M/T!!!!

JS + XES

iTrader: (1)

Maybe Fibonacci doesn't know what 20s is.

Yumcha

What is unfortunate here is, lost in all of this strange-arguing of apples/oranges, Acura does have a nice reveal.

But, it's subject to: technical numbers, MSRP, final look.




And oh, I'm sorry I even went to that thread in the TL forums. I think I prefer arguing about reposts...actually, no...I take that back. Arguing about reposts is worse.