Can't get banned for repeating things you say and believe. I checked.


Seriously though, stop avoiding the milk question! Rich people are starving over here!! <--that was sarcasm

 

But you did get banned for antagonistic/confrontation behavior toward a moderator. We checked

 

Ahhh, you missed me so much you checked every day I was gone?? That's really sweet of you, BUT what does this have anything to do with milk?! The most precious, unattainable resource for America's 1%. Stay on topic dude, you're getting lost again!!

 

are you guys talking about the TLX anymore?

 

You speak as if you have no common sense.

 

That's the thing, the TL was by all means a midsize sedan (hence, likely eating into RL sales), but priced more to compete against the RWD compacts like the 3 Series - which was a problem since arguably, the TSX (also larger than the 3 Series) also competed in the compact segment (nevermind the ILX which is also a compact in size).

Now that the TSX is on the way out and the Q50/G being the only tweener competitor left (since the CTS moved up a segment), Acura needs to price the TSX so that it's competitive with the Q50 and maybe the MKZ.

The TLX, while OK, could have really used sharp-looking sheetmetal like the 3G TL.


There's a particular Toyota/Lexus troll who can give him a run for the $$.


But at the same time, if Acura prices the TLX AWD at $55k, few would buy the TLX as well (2014 RLX - 135 days to sell in April and that's despite selling only 353 for the month).

A Premium AWD Q50 starts at $41.7k with the Sport AWD Q50 going for $45.3k - and Infiniti has been pretty aggressive with lease deals in the past.

In addition, a 3.8 Genesis AWD w/ the Tech package goes for a little over $46k and the 3.8 AWD Ultimate - less than $50k and the Genesis is a good bit larger than the TLX.

 

sure whatever.

 

Actually the Lexus GS won the a comparison test above the BMW, Audi, and Cadillac. http://www.imakenews.com/bredemannle....cfm?x=b11,0,w



2013 Lexus LS 460 Luxury 0-60 mph 5.6

2014 Acura RLX 0-60 mph 5.8

http://www.zeroto60times.com/Acura-0-60-mph-Times.html

It's not that much faster, but the LS is in fact faster than the RLX.

 

$55k?? Now that's unheard of really...I'm not sure if you have seen it, but the price shown on Acura.com is $50k for the TLX AWD advance.

The last thing Acura needs to worry about is the TLX making the RLX irrelevant.

I think it really depends. I agree that $5k is a substantial increase, especially considering that the 4G TL advance awd even at $45k wasn't exactly all that successful.

However, it seems to me that the advance trim is not quite a bit of an upgrade over the 4G TL advance trim. The TLX tech trim is right around the level of the previous advance trim, if you see what i mean.

Definitely.

 

You forgot pictures. I can't read your posts without the pictures.

 

Doesn't look like it-- everything else but...



Damn trolls.

 

cool

 

RLX sales failboat is self explanatory and was predicted by yours truly.

All the more reason that Acura will need to get the content and pricing right on the TLX.

 

Everyone outside of Honda/Acura employees and hardcore fanboys saw that coming.

I don't see a return to anywhere near TL and TSX combined sales with this TLX.

 

story

 

I'm willing to drive a TLX V6 AWD Tech or Advance, highly doubt it would take the place of my Infinity but I'll give it a twirl.

 

bro

 

I think I'm about to jump on the RLX failboat in the form of a lease. When you can get a top of the line Advance model for $49k right now, with all the goodies outside of the hybrid, a larger fuel tank, greater range, and more room in the trunk, the "failure" works in my favor. Why would I wait for the hybrid, which they are going to make as rare as a unicorn, maybe even rarer than my already rare stick V wagon, and pay sticker or even invoice? That's just f'ing nuts!

This is part of my evil plan to keep miles off my V wagon. 23k miles in 17 months is way too much! And yes, I'm nuts to do this and I'm a weirdo for liking the RLX. We've already established those things.

 

not just you. I think a used RLX would make quite a bargain if they depreciate as poorly as I think they will.

 

"the MSRP is subject to change prior to availability" Maybe that's part of the delay, because if it really does end up being $15k cheaper then the RLX AWD then Acura just killed their own car.

 

GS won because it was the lightest in competition like BMW 3 series. but it does not say much about its ride and safety.
TLX-SH-AWD is also very light, very efficient, super quiet and likely Top Safety Pick+. it should surpass all competition in all objective measures when identical set off tires are provided.

2015 Hyundai Genesis also got Top Safety Pick+ but it gained a lot of weigh.





un reliable/verifiable data. quarter mile times are way off.

 

What's the curb weight of the TLX AWD? Didn't know specs are out yet.

 

TLX FWD 3.5 Tech Package is under 3600lbs.

TLX SH-AWD at most can be around 3800lbs.




Honda is very conservative about EPA ratings. only light weight and aerodynamic cars can beat EPA ratings consistently. Honda technology implementation is very effective.


EPA ratings of Accord sport 2 mpg lower than Altima but in long term driving it got 1.5mpg better. it is like 3.5mpg swing and that despite larger 18 inch rims.

 

is trolling the only thing you can do?

We're trying to but trolls make it hard

 

IIRC, a SHAWD 4G is ~4000lb so with 240lb reduction it should be ~3760 for TLX AWD

 

Enough with tires already.

How long are you planning to milk your tires theory?

please come up with something else to amuse us.

 

Wow 3.5mpg!!!
That is like 50 more miles per tank than EPA.. fucking $8!!

also it is $2 per tank more efficient than Altima!!!

 

Seriously, stop trolling and clarify why rich people can't afford dairy. Its because their Ferrari's don't get enough mpg's isn't it!

 

I can't tell who is trolling whom at this point.

 

and forgot hydroforming, that also increases tensile strength and strain hardening of the unibody box sections.

 

Well, that's easy...Duh, it's Honda.

 

So, we're saying...with the right tires here, the TLX can blow the Ferrari logo off of the Poopdick McFartington...?

 

Of course.

 

According to SSFTXX, yes.

Too much aero on the Ferrari.
You have to have perfect balance of ground clearance and aero to form a perfect aerodynamic ultra super handling machine and match that with superior all season 245 tires.

Who needs 275 summer tires when you can have 245 all season. besides you will lose 2 mpg with 275 tires in the back, that is a deal breaker!!

 

The Lexus LS is just a hopeless piece of garbage. It can't do anything right.

I guess it'll just have to take comfort from the fact that it has outsold the RL(X) by 213.43% over the past 10 years (U.S).

 

Which goes back to what a few of us have been saying - wait for official pricing to come out and then we will see.

The RLX FWD is already not selling all that well. The RLX AWD will most likely be selling even slower. With those sale numbers, I don't think Acura should worry too much about hurting the RLX even more with the TLX.

Let's put some numbers into this. The RLX FWD is selling at 350 units/month or so. AWD version might bring that to 400 units. If the TLX steals sales from the RLX, the RLX might go down to 200 units. It's a 50% loss, but in terms of actual units sold, not a big difference. On the other hand, if Acura price the TLX too high, they can risk 5000 units /month to 3000 units/month. Now that would be a bigger problem.

Besides, the TLX and RLX are quite different cars now. Size wise, the RLX is also significantly bigger.

 

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Get some NB!

 

According to IIHS it got a good rating (the highest rating)

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/lexus/gs


What makes you say they're way off? What are you basing that on? Why do you believe that a 3.5 V6 in the RLX is going to be faster than the 4.6 in the Lexus LS?

 

One critical error that SSFTSX has always made.

When SSFTSX's beloved vehicle, in OEM factory specs, isn't good enough versus it's competitors, also in OEM factory specs; then there is nothing else to use but aftermarket tires to remedy the beloved vehicle' incompetitiveness.

However, once the competitor vehicles are wearing the same aftermarket tires just like SSFTSX's beloved vehicle, then SSFTSX's beloved vehicle will still lose to the competitors.

 

^ dont forget, his all season tires dont wear, while all the other cars tires wear out in like 5k miles. Oh and Acura has pot hole proof suspension to go with those tires and no one else does.