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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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Touch looks very nice, all but a cell signal.
which he doesnt need
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I'll have to read about it later...
here you go buddy

The new iPhone is finally official. Apple has named its sixth-generation smartphone the iPhone 5 and Phil Schiller has detailed its full set of features, specs, and release details. Measuring 7.6mm in thickness and 112 grams in weight, this is the thinnest and lightest iPhone that Apple has ever made, and is constructed "entirely" out of glass and aluminum. The new iPhone looks pretty much identical to all the leaks and mockups we've seen in the past few weeks — evidently Apple wasn't able to keep a lid on its most anticipated product, after all.

And yes, it has a 4-inch display! The new screen resolution is the oft-rumored 1136 x 640, meaning the display of the iPhone 4 and 4S has simply been elongated, both physically and in terms of pixel rows. To quote Phil, "you see, we're able to add a fifth row of icons." All of Apple's own software has been updated for the new resolution and screen size, while third-party apps will be letterboxed where necessary. Also in line with pre-launch rumors, the new iPhone's display features in-cell touchscreen technology, integrating the touch sensors right into the display itself. This should make for a thinner panel overall, though Apple also touts it as "the most accurate display in the industry."

There's also LTE connectivity, with a single chip, single radio, and what Apple describes as a "dynamic" antenna. Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T LTE flavors will all be supported by the iPhone 5. Apple rates this new handset's battery life at 8 hours of LTE web browsing.

A new 8-megapixel camera with an f/2.4 aperture and a hybrid IR filter will be present on the iPhone 5, with a promise of improved low light performance and 40 percent faster photo capture. The sensor is backside-illuminated. Catching up with the competition, Apple is also adding in a new Panorama mode to its camera software. Much like with HTC's ImageSense, the new iPhone 5 camera will allow you to also take still photos while recording video, which maxes out at 1080p resolution.

The iPhone 5's processor has been upgraded to Apple's A6 SoC, which Apple suggests will result in double the CPU performance and two times faster graphics. There are three microphones in the iPhone 5, which will support HD voice and also includes a redesigned loudspeaker that's 20 percent smaller than before. The headphone jack has, as anticipated, been repositioned to the bottom of the phone.

Apple is today also introducing an all-new Lightning dock connector — 80 percent smaller than its traditional 30-pin cable, this 8-pin all-digital plug offers a reversible design and improved durability. Apple will naturally provide an adapter for all your old accessories.

Your color choices? Black and white. Pricing is set at the usual $199 for the 16GB iPhone 5 on a two-year contract, $299 for 32GB, or $399 for the 64GB version. Pre-orders are opening on September 14th, with shipping starting on September 21st. The first countries to get the new handset will be the US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Australia, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore. More will then follow from September 28th onwards.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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thanks for the advice guys. 32 it is

i'll pre-order friday.

is there ANY possibility that they can run out of stock from all the pre-orders? i ask bc i've had that happen with the 3GS years ago. pre-ordered it, went to pick it up, no shipment came in. i was furious.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
haha... like me

I guess its the small things that count. I do really like how the new dock can go in either way. I hate plugging in my phone at night haha with the lights off.

I will give them this... if they really did improve the battery WITH LTE, that is hands down a HUGE accomplishment.
all good, I hear where you are coming from. I just am not a fan of the "it's the same phone" thing. It's clearly not.
Originally Posted by TeknoKing
I have the 4, so for me 100% there is a point to upgrade, it's better in every category.

for 4S... with 5 you get slightly faster processor, larger screen, slightly better front camera, and a promise of LTE?
yep all the things they've improved with basically every new iteration. but I would argue even with the 4, upgrading to the 5 is not 'necessary' - it's a luxury. but what are we talking about here? luxury. luxury in technology. who "needs" an iphone? nobody.
Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
As much as I like what the 5 offers, moving from my 4S isn't justifiable.
understandable. the improvements are arguably not "big" enough to necessarily warrant upgrade. (I have a 4, btw - if I had a 4S, I would not be so itchy to get the 5. I've deprived myself of Siri for long enough! )
Originally Posted by Mizouse
This is actually useful, they use sapphire to cover the faces of watches to prevent scratches.
thanks - did not know that. I thought they were using it as a gimmick sales ploy.
Originally Posted by speedemon90
Even though it may look similar, i really love the aluminum back. And the black version just looks sooo nice. And damn this thing is thin, look how much thickness the headphone jack takes up.. basically the whole thing!
agreed, how can you say its the same phone when it even *LOOKS* different?
Originally Posted by jupitersolo
I agree, at least 32, if you take a lot of pictures @ 8mb per, it will fill fast. I have about 2600 pictures on my 4 @ 5mb each, I have less than a GB with 32GB phone. I'll be opting for a 64gb upgrade.
good points - I think I "need" the 64!
Originally Posted by SharksBreath
thanks for the advice guys. 32 it is

i'll pre-order friday.

is there ANY possibility that they can run out of stock from all the pre-orders? i ask bc i've had that happen with the 3GS years ago. pre-ordered it, went to pick it up, no shipment came in. i was furious.
I do think there is a good possibility of it being unavailable to many on Friday! Remember, it has a potential to make a dent on the US GDP!
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cM3go
Stop posting and go read now!
Too damn busy at work. I'm at lunch now
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:09 PM
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I can't wait to browse the net faster on my iPhone at work...

This is LTE on my iPad:


This is 3G on my iPhone 4:


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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:10 PM
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I haven't been following.... sorry. But was the iPad Mini announced?
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mizouse
i can't wait to browse the net faster on my iphone at work...

This is lte on my ipad:


this is 3g on my iphone 4:


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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
If you have a 4, I see a point to upgrade, 4S? not so much...
I can agree with this line of thinking.

I skipped the 4S because I knew waiting an extra gen would yield a larger upgrade.

As doopstr mentioned with each new version its getting harder to impress...because there is only so much you can achieve before you are limited by other technology i.e. camera lenses or battery size.

But I am always happier with faster processing. The touted longer battery is nice. I will be happy to finally get the better camera. And there are other little features in iOS 6 I am looking forward to.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
I really can't believe all the people saying it's not that big a difference over the 4S. Did they even read the specifications??? I've spent the past 30 minutes bickering with some dolt on facebook who started it off with "same phone, bigger screen".

Seems to happen any new version of anything is introduced these days.
Yeah there are always the haters.

In my thinking...the 4S is probably still a powerful enough phone to not really have to upgrade from unless you really wanted to...and since form factor didn't change THAT drastically, its not a MUST.

But I never got the 4S...so I dont have to worry as I am definitely upgrading.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
I haven't been following.... sorry. But was the iPad Mini announced?
No, that is rumored for oct.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by phee
att?
Yes, this is ONLY for work. At home and everywhere else it's fine.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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tough to argue w this one....

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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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I have a 4S, but I got it by trading my 4 + $150 for the 4S when it was released (friend didn't care-- he had a i3 prior).

I've never done pre-orders before, but when you pre-order do you already have it at the Apple Store on the 21st (it is reserved for you so you don't have to wait am I right)? I'm due for a upgrade on the 21st (exactly ). I usually just wait like 4-5 hours outside for one.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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no shock here on iphone 5.. nothing revolutionary

i have 4s.. maybe i will have to use it for 3 years since they will most likely come out with iphone 5s next year...
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
tough to argue w this one....

Yeah, but there apps suck the biggest donkey dick!
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Friday at midnight...preorder....I'm down for two!
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
which he doesnt need
Yeap, perfect for young kids!
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
2600 pics
I am a photographer by "not trade".
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
I have a 4S, but I got it by trading my 4 + $150 for the 4S when it was released (friend didn't care-- he had a i3 prior).

I've never done pre-orders before, but when you pre-order do you already have it at the Apple Store on the 21st (it is reserved for you so you don't have to wait am I right)? I'm due for a upgrade on the 21st (exactly ). I usually just wait like 4-5 hours outside for one.
Preorders you can have them mail it to your house. Or you can reserve it for pick up and IIRC not have to wait. (well a much shorter line)
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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You could preorder at Best Buy, little to no wait, walk into the store and pick up.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Friday at midnight...preorder....I'm down for two!
I just hope the systems dont get overloaded like usual. I got fucked with the iPhone 4 and ended up having to stand in line because of the server crashes...I refuse to do that again.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Preorders you can have them mail it to your house. Or you can reserve it for pick up and IIRC not have to wait. (well a much shorter line)
I called my local Apple Store and the guy told me that Pre-orders only are mailed out-- can't pick them up on opening month. Is this true?
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
tough to argue w this one....

My issue is that the phone is just too damn big. I have big hands and still have to move my hand on the device in order to travel to all parts of the screen. That and you need big pockets to get the damn thing to fit.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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Apparently, with the new iPod touch you don't need split-screen, even if two players are competing.

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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
I called my local Apple Store and the guy told me that Pre-orders only are mailed out-- can't pick them up on opening month. Is this true?
maybe things have changed?
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I just hope the systems dont get overloaded like usual. I got fucked with the iPhone 4 and ended up having to stand in line because of the server crashes...I refuse to do that again.
yea i remember that... i got lucky after all my bitching and whining.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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Verizon will allow FaceTime over cellular for no additional charge
One of the long-awaited features in iOS 6 is the ability to make FaceTime calls over a cellular connection, and Verizon isn't planning to limit it in the slightest. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that iPhone users on Big Red will be able to use the feature no matter what flavor of data plan they may be using, for no additional charge. The position stands in stark contrast to that of rival AT&T, which sparked a still-ongoing controversy when it announced that its customers would only be able to use FaceTime over cellular if they switched to one of AT&T's new shared data plans. Sprint as well has also said that it has no plans to charge extra for the feature.

FaceTime itself has been limited to Wi-Fi since its introduction, with even the new LTE-capable iPad unable to make FaceTime calls over that device's speedy connection. That all changes with iOS 6 — but of course, the newfound ability is dependent on carrier support.

While Verizon's stance is no doubt great news for its customers, it shouldn't been seen as something the carrier is simply doing out of the kindness of its heart. The 700MHz block of spectrum Verizon uses for its LTE service came with the requirement that the carrier not limit the usability of applications or devices that take advantage of it — a requirement that the FCC feels Verizon has already violated once. Still, the net result is the same for customers, and given Verizon's significant lead in LTE deployment, it may be enough to incentivize more than a few AT&T users to jump ship.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/12/33...itional-charge

Well if you ever needed a reason to switch to Verizon....that and they have way more LTE markets
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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I hate AT&T. I want to ditch them so bad. Every time I hear stuff like this, just adds more fuel...
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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hmm. watching the keynote said the display is full sRGB specification..
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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Can I have the i5 battery in my 4s/call it a day? LTE is not very compelling currently as data $$ rates are insane compared to 3g here.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I hate AT&T. I want to ditch them so bad. Every time I hear stuff like this, just adds more fuel...
AT&T will alllow facetime over cellular at no additional charge...but you have to have one of their new shared data plans.

You can't do it if you have the unlimited plan.

And Verizon...they are getting rid of their unlimited plan if I read correctly...for EVERYONE.

So, AT&T is allowing me to keep my unlimited data...i can live without facetime over cellular....worth while trade off for me.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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:wow:

Apple's re-use and recycle program quoted me $160 for my OG 16gb wifi iPad....sending that out tomorrow since its just been sitting on a shelf.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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OK whew....watching keynote and at the itunes part.

After watching it and seeing exactly what they did....I think I will like the new changes. I was really nervous that they had dumbed it down too much. But it seems they made it more functional...and I like some of the new features such as "Up Next"
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
AT&T will alllow facetime over cellular at no additional charge...but you have to have one of their new shared data plans.

You can't do it if you have the unlimited plan.

And Verizon...they are getting rid of their unlimited plan if I read correctly...for EVERYONE.

So, AT&T is allowing me to keep my unlimited data...i can live without facetime over cellular....worth while trade off for me.
Not if you buy your phone outright.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
Can I have the i5 battery in my 4s/call it a day? LTE is not very compelling currently as data $$ rates are insane compared to 3g here.
The just get a Mophie $40-$80
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Not if you buy your phone outright.
So what does that mean? Not paying the subsidized price?
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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For current customers that have unlimited 3G.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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