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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
all images/videos/contacts/calendar events/apps/music/settings/everything is synced instantly...hence backed up instantly with Google...

I think the reset the phone option is where I would give apple a bonus point....stock rom in Android does not do that (atleast not that I know of)....you need a custom rom/app to do that....
You are seriously trying to make this into something it isn't...no one is bashing you're beloved android.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
yea but if the 5C is gonna have similar 5 internals, why would you spend that much and not just get a 5 when its got a much more amazing design.

That was the point i was trying to make
Because this is mainly for the chinese market.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:08 PM
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now you can get two iphone 5c's in exchange for a kidney
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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It's rumored to cost $300-400 OUT of contract. Unlike the the 5/5S which costs like 700 out of contract.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Rumors also say the 5 will be retired.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:45 PM
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^^^ never mind

the hype for Retina display was OMG and this is a native 1080p display....

also 4.3 did a lot of things....if you are playing Real Racing 3 on your phone and you get home and start on your tablet, you will start from the next level....unlike Angry birds which I had to do 3 times when I switched my phone from the orignal Iphone to 3GS to 4g



Sarlacc, am not bashing the iphone...as I mentioned I love the full Apple thinking but just seemed like the thinking stopped after Jobs....they always bring revolutionary products to the table but when other catch up, they give up....


Also selling the iphone for 300-400 out of contract will be a bad decision, am pretty sure they will loose money on that....am still GUESSING 450-500 for the cheaper models and 550-600 for the expensive one

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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:38 PM
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I love that I can download a song on iTunes on my phone and in 1 sec I can access it on my laptop via Apple Remote to play on my receiver across the room

(don't have an apple TV at the moment to airplay)
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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Apple is trying to fill the market voids that it currently has. It's all about the ecosystem. So even if they lose money on the devices (doubtful) they will amply make up for it elsewhere. So make a cheaper alternative and sell them by the boatload.

I think the 5C is a smart decision. And they will carry that on in the future. It will allow them to release a "new" phone physically using last years internals that are left over. Which allows them to make bigger orders, etc.

Rumors is there will be some software lockouts on the C. Like Siri...

And who cares what you like. It's all personal preference. They all do basically the same thing.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:56 PM
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I have to apologize if I came off too strong....I dont mean to bash iphone, its just that am very amazed and happy with Google and Samsung....
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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Well I've used and dealt with nothing but iOS for 5+ years. And now that I have a Nexus 7 running 4.3 I can honestly say I'm glad I'm an Apple fanboy. Sure it's a nice change, there are some cool things here and there. But iOS is a much more pleasant experience overall. It's smooth and just works.

My iPad 2 completely kills the much newer, better on paper, Nexus 7. In every regard.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
Sarlacc, am not bashing the iphone...as I mentioned I love the full Apple thinking but just seemed like the thinking stopped after Jobs....they always bring revolutionary products to the table but when other catch up, they give up....
That is just unfair expectation and instigation via the media and other companies to try and push apple out of the popularity spotlight. That EVERY product announcement has to revolutionize something...that just is NOT true.

As I said...how quickly and how fast can you truly innovate (true innovation)? Apples current line was set by Jobs for the next 5 years (3.5-ish now)...most of whats coming down the pipeline is still him. His brilliance was seeing what people wanted in the future of tech. But there is only so much you can do so quickly.

And I don't think apple gives up...Yes...the software might get certain features much later than competitors...but I'll bet money its a much better implementation. And because of that, I'm happy to wait.

This world has turned into one where instant gratification is demanded...Its kinda sad really...because to me, that kills innovation. Put something in the oven...give it time to cook.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
I have to apologize if I came off too strong....I dont mean to bash iphone, its just that am very amazed and happy with Google and Samsung....
But yet, you're in the iPhone thread trolling.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
But yet, you're in the iPhone thread trolling.
I get what he is trying to say, I don't think he is trolling...just confused with terminology to a point.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I get what he is trying to say, I don't think he is trolling...just confused with terminology to a point.
It's an iPhone thread and they are talking bout is Google and Android. There a thread for that.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
It's an iPhone thread and they are talking bout is Google and Android. There a thread for that.
Well, the conversation was about innovation...which is terminology/meaning got mixed up.

But the conversation/debate has stayed on point and been civil, so I don't really see an issue.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by swoosh
I have to apologize if I came off too strong....I dont mean to bash iphone, its just that am very amazed and happy with Google and Samsung....
I disagree on the samsung part

Originally Posted by maharajamd
Well I've used and dealt with nothing but iOS for 5+ years. And now that I have a Nexus 7 running 4.3 I can honestly say I'm glad I'm an Apple fanboy. Sure it's a nice change, there are some cool things here and there. But iOS is a much more pleasant experience overall. It's smooth and just works.

My iPad 2 completely kills the much newer, better on paper, Nexus 7. In every regard.
I also disagree here, my dad has an ipad 2 and I like the N7 better. But it could be for different reasons. Do you have an iphone? Cause then the whole iOS experience will be better. In general sticking to one ecosystem will give a better experience. I will say the ipad is not as glitchy as I did run into a glitch on mine and i had to reset it.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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true am not trolling anyone on here....am not Justnspace

about giving more time, I totally understand....hey as a consumer, I want to make sure my hard earned money goes to something which gives me instant gratification....so I jumped boats from Apple to Android....if Apple comes out with something better, I bet they will get my money and not Android....but in the meantime, while you are preparing the bread and waiting for it, imma eat some here

about terminology, yeah you call it jailbreaking, we call it rooting and flashing....so excuse me if I said backup/sync instead of imap or icloud backup...

however I do believe that Google has been the one coming out with cool stuff lately....from the phones to the tablets to Chromecast.....

EDIT: Thanks Sarclacc...yes we started talking about innovation and how one small trick can lead to something big in the future....i bet the hand gestures and other things will get bigger than mere tricks

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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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If you want to see something innovative...look up the kreyos meteor smart watch...I WISH to hell I had known about it sooner so I could have gotten in on the $100 dollar buy in...sadly it went quick. I could have still gone in on a discount, but I'll wait and see what it does.

With hand gestures...THAT is way of the future I think...not the phone itself.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Well, the conversation was about innovation...which is terminology/meaning got mixed up.

But the conversation/debate has stayed on point and been civil, so I don't really see an issue.
It's the same every time, this thread is dead for days or weeks. And the first new post about iPhone has the Fandroids in here saying what Apple has, isn't that or that and if you really want a phone, you need to "come to the dark side", it does this and it does that.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
But yet, you're in the iPhone thread trolling.
That's been going on for quite a while. Android fan boys shitting up Apple threads saying that their device is better and that we are sheep for buying an Apple product...
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
If you want to see something innovative...look up the kreyos meteor smart watch...I WISH to hell I had known about it sooner so I could have gotten in on the $100 dollar buy in...sadly it went quick. I could have still gone in on a discount, but I'll wait and see what it does.

With hand gestures...THAT is way of the future I think...not the phone itself.
I feel like I'm alone on this, but I see no point to a smart watch unless you want a something to monitor fitness. I really dont want another device that pops up notifications. Its the same with google glass IMO. Its really cool and all, but I honestly rather pull out my phone. I dont read a text and not send something and chances are i'm going to be in a crowd and I'm not going to want to speak a text message out loud.

Theres only one device where I use voice controls, and thats a tablet. Easier to type that way with that also.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
That's been going on for quite a while. Android fan boys shitting up Apple threads saying that their device is better and that we are sheep for buying an Apple product...
I know, and that's why I don't post in here or really follow it anymore. It's like many other thread that getting shitty on by those who just have to make sure what they say is heard and in their mind are right about the subject.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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Samsung should sue Apple for that lol...Samsungs been doing this for the last 2-3 years
Originally Posted by maharajamd
Apple is trying to fill the market voids that it currently has. It's all about the ecosystem. So even if they lose money on the devices (doubtful) they will amply make up for it elsewhere. So make a cheaper alternative and sell them by the boatload.

I think the 5C is a smart decision. And they will carry that on in the future. It will allow them to release a "new" phone physically using last years internals that are left over. Which allows them to make bigger orders, etc.

Rumors is there will be some software lockouts on the C. Like Siri...

And who cares what you like. It's all personal preference. They all do basically the same thing.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:54 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
I feel like I'm alone on this, but I see no point to a smart watch unless you want a something to monitor fitness. I really dont want another device that pops up notifications. Its the same with google glass IMO. Its really cool and all, but I honestly rather pull out my phone. I dont read a text and not send something and chances are i'm going to be in a crowd and I'm not going to want to speak a text message out loud.

Theres only one device where I use voice controls, and thats a tablet. Easier to type that way with that also.
I dont disagree...so did you actually LOOK at what this one does compared to the competition.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SwervinCL
That's been going on for quite a while. Android fan boys shitting up Apple threads saying that their device is better and that we are sheep for buying an Apple product...
Its no different with OS threads, Android threads, Cell provider threads.

Shit people get passionate about...stupid things are said and fires are lit.

I dont really feel like thats what happened here this morning...nothing got ugly. And this is me we are talking about...
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 02:55 AM
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 08:23 AM
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When is 5S suppose to come out? I'd like to sell my 5.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 08:39 AM
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 10:45 AM
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I dont disagree...so did you actually LOOK at what this one does compared to the competition.
Not entirely. I saw fitness things like heart rate monitor and so forth. Notifications from your phone. You can answer calls via the watch and I think talk through it?

You can use google now and siri through it as well. Thats basically as far as I got. Now I dunno really what the competition does exactly. But while all this is pretty fascinating. Is it something I will buy, probably not. Also IMO it doesnt look good.

I think the first good smart watch will be the iWatch if it ever comes out. And for one big reason. Design. Apple is good at it. A watch is essentially an apparel, and it needs to be fashionable first and techy second. Thats just me though. Everyone has their own thing.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
Not entirely. I saw fitness things like heart rate monitor and so forth. Notifications from your phone. You can answer calls via the watch and I think talk through it?

You can use google now and siri through it as well. Thats basically as far as I got. Now I dunno really what the competition does exactly. But while all this is pretty fascinating. Is it something I will buy, probably not. Also IMO it doesnt look good.

I think the first good smart watch will be the iWatch if it ever comes out. And for one big reason. Design. Apple is good at it. A watch is essentially an apparel, and it needs to be fashionable first and techy second. Thats just me though. Everyone has their own thing.
It has gesture control, voice control...does have a mic and speaker to use as the phone. Does all the read out shit from the phone....that is NOT the seller to me...cool features...not sure if they'll get used or not.

BUT

It has BT AND Ant+....it can be used as full on bike computer with GPS (bike deal to me)...aside from doing all the other fitness tracking of the more basic bands...can also do shit like analyze golf swings and swim strokes.

It is more of a fitness computer...smart watch - 2nd....

And I am very curious what the iWatch will be like...its why Im in no rush to drop coin on anything. But I know it wont have the fitness abilities of the kreyos.
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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 01:12 PM
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Jupiter and SwerinCL....isnt this an open forum?

or wait, should i permission from someone before posting in here? I think we were having a decent discussion about the differences in features and what makes a difference to individual people....

some people like the flexibility of different settings and an open market....some people like the hardware look and feel of the iphone....I dont think the discussion was offensive to anyone in anyway....everyone is entitled to have and state an opinion....
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Remotely Assembled Malware Blows Past Apple’s Screening Process
Research unmasks a weakness of Apple’s App Store: new apps apparently are run for only a few seconds before approval.
Mystery has long shrouded how Apple vets iPhone, iPad, and iPod apps for safety. Now, researchers who managed to get a malicious app up for sale in the App Store have determined that the company’s review process runs at least some programs for only a few seconds before giving the green light.

This wasn’t long enough for Apple to notice that an app that purported to offer news from Georgia Tech contained code fragments that later assembled themselves into a malicious digital creature. This malware, which the researchers dubbed Jekyll, could stealthily post tweets, send e-mails and texts, steal personal information and device ID numbers, take photos, and attack other apps. It even provided a way to magnify its effects, because it could direct Safari, Apple’s default browser, to a website with more malware.

“The app did a phone-home when it was installed, asking for commands. This gave us the ability to generate new behavior of the logic of that app which was nonexistent when it was installed
,” says Long Lu, a Stony Brook University researcher who was part of the team at Georgia Tech, led by Tielei Wang, that wrote the Apple-fooling app.

The Jekyll app was live for only a few minutes in March, and no innocent victims installed it, Lu says. During that brief time, the researchers installed it on their own Apple devices and attacked themselves, then withdrew the app before it could do real harm.

Lu says that by monitoring the app, they could tell that Apple ran it for only a few seconds prior to releasing it. During the review, the malicious code had been decomposed into “code gadgets” that were hidden under the cover of legitimate app operations and could be stitched together after approval. “The message we want to deliver is that right now, the Apple review process is mostly doing a static analysis of the app, which we say is not sufficient because dynamically generated logic cannot be very easily seen,” Lu says (see “Clues Suggest Malware Is Moving from PCs to Mobile Devices”).

The paper was slated for a talk Friday at the Usenix conference in Washington, D.C. Tom Neumayr, an Apple spokesman, said the company made some changes to its iOS mobile operating system in response to issues identified in the paper. Neumayr would not comment on the app-review process.

Apple has sold well over 600 million devices that run iOS (iPhones, iPads, and iPod Touches), yet only a handful of malicious apps have been discovered. The new research shows that it’s possible that bad apps are lingering on Apple devices without having been detected, Lu says.

To know whether that is the case, the app-vetting process would have to include continuous monitoring of customers’ phones, says Marc Rogers, principal researcher at Lookout, a mobile security firm. He emphasized that “all OSes are vulnerable to this kind of attack, whether mobile or otherwise.”

Xuxian Jiang, a mobile security researcher at North Carolina State University who has investigated the security of Android devices and Google’s app store, Google Play, adds that the new research “simply reminds us that no app-vetting process will be perfect.”
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 11:35 AM
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Jupiter and SwerinCL....isnt this an open forum?

or wait, should i permission from someone before posting in here? I think we were having a decent discussion about the differences in features and what makes a difference to individual people....

some people like the flexibility of different settings and an open market....some people like the hardware look and feel of the iphone....I dont think the discussion was offensive to anyone in anyway....everyone is entitled to have and state an opinion....
I have not looked through the android thread at all, but I would guess that there are far less threads of us Apple users in there talking shit about your android device or saying that our device is better. Just basing this off of my experience with Android users.. Quick to talk shit about all the Apple users/products.

You can say whatever you want in this "open forum", because I really couldn't care any less. It's just annoying when you come into an APPLE thread and all you read is Android users bashing Apple... That's all i'm saying.

It would be the equivalent to me going into the Android thread and telling each and everyone of you that Androids are crap and you people are more fanboi about your products than the majority of Apple users.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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Swervin, you gotta grow a pair....

read slowly next time....no one is bashing anything....it was a damn discussion....

I didnt say anywhere Android is better than Apple....I only said Apple has stopped innovating new things and the discussion started....

and I guess am not the only one who things that way:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100740849

https://www.google.com/search?q=appl...hrome&ie=UTF-8


all I was saying is "Apple products were cool"....when the first iphone came out, I was in line to get the product and I paid $600+tax for the 8GB variant...BECAUSE IT WAS COOL....I desired it, wanted it....

the new products have not had that (atleast for me)....I would love to own an apple product again (I had a regular ipod, ipod shuffle (when I went running), got an ipod nano for the car)....but now, I have a MotoActv (google device), Nexus 7 (in my dash for radio/nav/etc) and a Galaxy note 2....I am baffled on how this switch has happened....

and I just think that Google technology with new features/innovations from Samsung/Asus have lead me there....

I would love to own an Apple, that device didnt crash as much (well my Note wudnt too if I hadnt rooted the device....then again I wanted Jelly Bean on my phone)...and I loved the features which Apple had to offer....the sync was super easy to use....

so again no one is bashing any products....we are just comparing....


....and I be darned if someone comes in here and praises a BMW/Audi or any other car...your butthole will be sore for days i reckon....
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