Apple: Hardware News and Discussion Thread
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I’ll see if the rumored Mac mini is announced. As much as I’d love their 14” MBP, I just don’t use my M1 Air enough to justify another laptop.
edit: guess that’s not happening.
edit: guess that’s not happening.
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I don't want to look through the blog sites and such so i'll just be a lazy fool and ask here 
with magsafe3, are we returning back to a regular power adapter and dropping USBC charging? What about people that have USB C docks, can that still be used to charge via PD or is magsafe3 now the only charging method? It better be either/or
with magsafe3, are we returning back to a regular power adapter and dropping USBC charging? What about people that have USB C docks, can that still be used to charge via PD or is magsafe3 now the only charging method? It better be either/or
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I don't want to look through the blog sites and such so i'll just be a lazy fool and ask here
with magsafe3, are we returning back to a regular power adapter and dropping USBC charging? What about people that have USB C docks, can that still be used to charge via PD or is magsafe3 now the only charging method? It better be either/or
with magsafe3, are we returning back to a regular power adapter and dropping USBC charging? What about people that have USB C docks, can that still be used to charge via PD or is magsafe3 now the only charging method? It better be either/or
with a 96W adapter can charge faster. 0-50% in 30 minutos.
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cool thanks Miz 
i like options...
i also like them bringing back HDMI/SD Card etc... . take away things you knew we would want just so we crave for them back.. well played Apple. you learned from the drug dealers..
i like options...i also like them bringing back HDMI/SD Card etc... . take away things you knew we would want just so we crave for them back.. well played Apple. you learned from the drug dealers..
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Fucking shipping dropped fast as hell.
I ordered the 16" with the entry Max Pro with 24 cores and 64gb of ram...trading in my old 2016 15". Fucking delivery times slipped to dec 10-23. I also used the education store.
I'm guessing this processor will not be an in store offering, but I'm going to check and if so, I'll try and pick up in store sooner.
I ordered the 16" with the entry Max Pro with 24 cores and 64gb of ram...trading in my old 2016 15". Fucking delivery times slipped to dec 10-23. I also used the education store.
I'm guessing this processor will not be an in store offering, but I'm going to check and if so, I'll try and pick up in store sooner.
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Ohh man my life is complete. A $19 polishing cloth 
Polishing Cloth
https://store.apple.com/xc/product/MM6F3AM/A
Polishing Cloth
https://store.apple.com/xc/product/MM6F3AM/A
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I'll wait until the base 14" MBP hits the refurb store at $300 off in a few months from all the people returning them after doing their unboxing / review YouTube videos.
The refurb store got flooded with the new M1 iMacs after something like 3-4 months.
The refurb store got flooded with the new M1 iMacs after something like 3-4 months.
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macOS Monterey Release Candidate Undoes Safari Changes, Reintroduces Old Tab Design
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/18...afari-changes/
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Looking in to the specs they showed, the M1 Max has a slightly slower memory bandwidth than the PS5
~400GB/s vs 448 on the PS5.
In terms of GPU, the 32core is similar to the PS5's 10.2 Teraflops.
For an equivalent discrete card, it's similar to the RTX 2080 (10.07 teraflops) or the Mobile RTX 3060 (10.92).
edit: @#1 STUNNA the Teraflops is similar to the Tesla Model S
~400GB/s vs 448 on the PS5.
In terms of GPU, the 32core is similar to the PS5's 10.2 Teraflops.
For an equivalent discrete card, it's similar to the RTX 2080 (10.07 teraflops) or the Mobile RTX 3060 (10.92).
edit: @#1 STUNNA the Teraflops is similar to the Tesla Model S
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Looking in to the specs they showed, the M1 Max has a slightly slower memory bandwidth than the PS5
~400GB/s vs 448 on the PS5.
In terms of GPU, the 32core is similar to the PS5's 10.2 Teraflops.
For an equivalent discrete card, it's similar to the RTX 2080 (10.07 teraflops) or the Mobile RTX 3060 (10.92).
edit: @#1 STUNNA the Teraflops is similar to the Tesla Model S
~400GB/s vs 448 on the PS5.
In terms of GPU, the 32core is similar to the PS5's 10.2 Teraflops.
For an equivalent discrete card, it's similar to the RTX 2080 (10.07 teraflops) or the Mobile RTX 3060 (10.92).
edit: @#1 STUNNA the Teraflops is similar to the Tesla Model S
Debating whether its worth to go from my 18 15" MBP Pro to the new 14". definitely wanted something smaller.
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so the 140W USB-C power adapter supports Power Delivery 3.1 which is up to 240W.
If I understand right, you also need a cable that supports that wattage too. EPR (extended power range)
https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/19/...party-chargers
Apple’s new 140W charger can fast charge a lot more than just your MacBook Pro
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The charging brick is USB-C PD 3.1 compliant
If I understand right, you also need a cable that supports that wattage too. EPR (extended power range)
https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/19/...party-chargers
Apple’s new 140W charger can fast charge a lot more than just your MacBook Pro
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The charging brick is USB-C PD 3.1 compliant
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My thoughts on the notch are that it seems to only take up space in the middle of the menu bar which is empty space, since the screen is 16:10 it shouldn't interfere with any 16:9 content either in fullscreen.
I think they'll add FaceID eventually, I wonder if the delay is a thickness issue. Obviously, it's not a horizontal real estate problem but how thick are the rest of the FaceID sensors compared to the MBP Top clamshell? The iPhone is thicker than the MBP top clamshell so it's got enough depth to fit but maybe they are waiting for thinner dot projectors or infrared sensors in order to add it to the laptop. Maybe that's why the MBP only has a 1080P camera while the iPhone has a 7MP
I've done little to no research on this so I'm probably wrong
I think they'll add FaceID eventually, I wonder if the delay is a thickness issue. Obviously, it's not a horizontal real estate problem but how thick are the rest of the FaceID sensors compared to the MBP Top clamshell? The iPhone is thicker than the MBP top clamshell so it's got enough depth to fit but maybe they are waiting for thinner dot projectors or infrared sensors in order to add it to the laptop. Maybe that's why the MBP only has a 1080P camera while the iPhone has a 7MP
I've done little to no research on this so I'm probably wrong
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so the 140W USB-C power adapter supports Power Delivery 3.1 which is up to 240W.
If I understand right, you also need a cable that supports that wattage too. EPR (extended power range)
https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/19/...party-chargers
Apple’s new 140W charger can fast charge a lot more than just your MacBook Pro
23
The charging brick is USB-C PD 3.1 compliant
If I understand right, you also need a cable that supports that wattage too. EPR (extended power range)
https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/19/...party-chargers
Apple’s new 140W charger can fast charge a lot more than just your MacBook Pro
23
The charging brick is USB-C PD 3.1 compliant
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The resolutions are actually different than 16:10 (1.6)
For the 14” it’s 3024x1964 or 1.54
16” it’s 3456x2234 or 1.547
if you subtract 74 pixels from the height to cover the notch, then the resolution becomes 16:10.
14” = 3024x1890 or 1.6
16” = 3456x2160 or 1.6
my understanding in full screen mode and video, the content doesn’t extend up to where the bitch is.
For the 14” it’s 3024x1964 or 1.54
16” it’s 3456x2234 or 1.547
if you subtract 74 pixels from the height to cover the notch, then the resolution becomes 16:10.
14” = 3024x1890 or 1.6
16” = 3456x2160 or 1.6
my understanding in full screen mode and video, the content doesn’t extend up to where the bitch is.
My thoughts on the notch are that it seems to only take up space in the middle of the menu bar which is empty space, since the screen is 16:10 it shouldn't interfere with any 16:9 content either in fullscreen.
I think they'll add FaceID eventually, I wonder if the delay is a thickness issue. Obviously, it's not a horizontal real estate problem but how thick are the rest of the FaceID sensors compared to the MBP Top clamshell? The iPhone is thicker than the MBP top clamshell so it's got enough depth to fit but maybe they are waiting for thinner dot projectors or infrared sensors in order to add it to the laptop. Maybe that's why the MBP only has a 1080P camera while the iPhone has a 7MP
I've done little to no research on this so I'm probably wrong
I think they'll add FaceID eventually, I wonder if the delay is a thickness issue. Obviously, it's not a horizontal real estate problem but how thick are the rest of the FaceID sensors compared to the MBP Top clamshell? The iPhone is thicker than the MBP top clamshell so it's got enough depth to fit but maybe they are waiting for thinner dot projectors or infrared sensors in order to add it to the laptop. Maybe that's why the MBP only has a 1080P camera while the iPhone has a 7MP
I've done little to no research on this so I'm probably wrong
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Let's gooooo!!!!
Gallium Nitride and Silicon Carbide are slowly replacing regular old silicon chips because they're more efficient, make devices smaller, and possibly cheaper (someday), and handle higher power. GaN is replacing silicon in low power things like phone chargers, and SiC is replacing silicon in high power devices like Teslas, it's one of the reasons their drivetrain is more efficient than antiquated silicon-based drivetrains from Legacy auto; though I follow a GaN scientist on Twitter that was saying that they think they've solved the issue that was preventing GaN being used in high voltage situations, so now it competes with SiC.
As well as its use of the USB-C PD 3.1 standard, Apple also confirmed that the brick is its first gallium nitride (GaN) charger, which means it’s using the material that allows companies to build higher-powered chargers that are smaller in size than their traditional counterparts.
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The resolutions are actually different than 16:10 (1.6)
For the 14” it’s 3024x1964 or 1.54
16” it’s 3456x2234 or 1.547
if you subtract 74 pixels from the height to cover the notch, then the resolution becomes 16:10.
14” = 3024x1890 or 1.6
16” = 3456x2160 or 1.6
my understanding in full screen mode and video, the content doesn’t extend up to where the bitch is.
For the 14” it’s 3024x1964 or 1.54
16” it’s 3456x2234 or 1.547
if you subtract 74 pixels from the height to cover the notch, then the resolution becomes 16:10.
14” = 3024x1890 or 1.6
16” = 3456x2160 or 1.6
my understanding in full screen mode and video, the content doesn’t extend up to where the bitch is.
That's almost a 3:2 ratio then. The Surfaces use the 3:2 ratio and that's one of their best features.
I'd love a 3:2 monitor in portrait orientation.
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ohhh i didn't even see this, that's amazing! I would think there is some PD requirement though
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I don’t know it’s been shown anywhere.
But dave2d brought up an interesting question. Is the notch a hard cut off or can you move your mouse behind it?
I hope it’s the latter, would get kind of annoying having to go around the notch trying to select something from the menu bar.
But dave2d brought up an interesting question. Is the notch a hard cut off or can you move your mouse behind it?
I hope it’s the latter, would get kind of annoying having to go around the notch trying to select something from the menu bar.
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Looks like my question was answered. Not bad!
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/19...ter-and-notch/
https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/19...ter-and-notch/
The new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros both feature a notch, a first for the Mac. Given we've never had a notch on a Mac, there are some questions over how macOS handles the notch, and more specifically, how the mouse pointer does.
The predicament about how the mouse pointer handles the notch has been a question floated across Twitter and Reddit over the last 24 hours or so since the new MacBook Pro's announcement. An animation posted on Reddit portrayed two main possibilities, one in which the mouse pointer travels behind the notch, being invisible to the user. The other option showcased the mouse pointer traveling around the notch.
The new MacBook Pros will begin arriving next week, but thankfully, we don't have to wait that long to get an answer. Linda Dong, an Apple designer, has confirmed on Twitter that the macOS pointer travels behind the notch, allowing users to essentially hide the mouse pointer from view.
This behavior will come in handy, fundamentally making the notch a hiding place for the mouse pointer. This may come in good use, for example, when users want to more easily hide the mouse pointer while they watch a video.
Apple is taking steps to make the notch less of an annoyance for most customers in day-to-day use. When macOS apps are in full-screen mode, Apple adds an artificial black bar to the top of the display that hides the notch. Developers can, however, opt to allow their apps to make full use of the entire screen real estate, notch included.
The predicament about how the mouse pointer handles the notch has been a question floated across Twitter and Reddit over the last 24 hours or so since the new MacBook Pro's announcement. An animation posted on Reddit portrayed two main possibilities, one in which the mouse pointer travels behind the notch, being invisible to the user. The other option showcased the mouse pointer traveling around the notch.
The new MacBook Pros will begin arriving next week, but thankfully, we don't have to wait that long to get an answer. Linda Dong, an Apple designer, has confirmed on Twitter that the macOS pointer travels behind the notch, allowing users to essentially hide the mouse pointer from view.
This behavior will come in handy, fundamentally making the notch a hiding place for the mouse pointer. This may come in good use, for example, when users want to more easily hide the mouse pointer while they watch a video.
Apple is taking steps to make the notch less of an annoyance for most customers in day-to-day use. When macOS apps are in full-screen mode, Apple adds an artificial black bar to the top of the display that hides the notch. Developers can, however, opt to allow their apps to make full use of the entire screen real estate, notch included.
Last edited by Mizouse; Oct 19, 2021 at 05:16 PM.