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Apple: Hardware News and Discussion Thread

iMac line updated with 16:9 displays, quad-core Core i5 model

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/20/i...core-i5-model/

http://www.apple.com/imac/
MacBook goes unibody, available today

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/20/m...ailable-today/

http://www.apple.com/macbook/
Apple gives Mac mini a spec bump, adds dual-HDD Mac mini server

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/20/a...c-mini-server/

http://www.apple.com/macmini/
Apple's Magic Mouse: one button, multitouch gestures, Bluetooth, four-month battery life

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/20/a...th-four-month/

http://www.apple.com/magicmouse/




I'm very excited about the enhancements to the Mac Mini lineup. I've been holding out on getting one because I was waiting for a speed bump. wasn't expecting it to be an increase in filepsace though. You can now get it with a 2.66 processor and get it in a server configuration with 2x500GB hard drives. now if they only got smart and provided it in a micro-atx format and retained the optical drive and labled that as a "Mac" as the little brother to the "Mac Pro"
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iMacs will be i5 and i7 Core, been waiting to see this.
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I wish the Mac Mini server had faster hard drives. Cool nonetheless.
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I wish the Mac Mini server had faster hard drives. Cool nonetheless.
Forgot to check that, now that is retarded!
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I've been wanting a mac mini too for an HTPC, been holding out. Awesome!
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My 6 month old iMac is now a steaming pile of shit
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"27-inch models also support input from external DisplayPort sources..."
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Only thing that interests me is the multi touch mouse. but then I think most consumers would rather have a multi-touch monitor than a mouse. But the iMac or any other mac doesn't have that but there's a crap ton of cheaper PCs that will have multi-touch monitors in two days. This is Apple's response to Windows 7 and it's weak.
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna View Post
Only thing that interests me is the multi touch mouse. but then I think most consumers would rather have a multi-touch monitor than a mouse. But the iMac or any other mac doesn't have that but there's a crap ton of cheaper PCs that will have multi-touch monitors in two days. This is Apple's response to Windows 7 and it's weak.
I hope windows 7 lives up to its hype. I hate the failed Vista with a passion. I have down graded numerous computers for friends and family who cant stand vista
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I can see the microsoft commercials now. Some couple goes into Best buy looking for a new PC. They see all the new PCs that have multi-touch capability, they have fun laughing and giggling with them, pinching and zooming, the whole nine. Then they say lets go check out the macs, they walkup to the iMac and touch it's screen and nothing happens it doesn't do shit. Then they see the price tag! It's almost twice as much as the ones over there with multi-touch. Then they say 'why would anyone buy a mac?". Apple =
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My 6 month old iMac is now a steaming pile of shit
that's why I bought refurb when the new ones came out in Jan. You will still get plenty of years out of it. Hell, my kid still likes my G4 for web stuff.
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WTF, still no blueray. Ah well.
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna View Post
Only thing that interests me is the multi touch mouse. but then I think most consumers would rather have a multi-touch monitor than a mouse. But the iMac or any other mac doesn't have that but there's a crap ton of cheaper PCs that will have multi-touch monitors in two days. This is Apple's response to Windows 7 and it's weak.
retard.
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"27-inch models also support input from external DisplayPort sources..."
supports external displays up to 30" and the 27" is VESA compatible
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For all the hoopla multi-touch displays are getting from the Microsoft world, I have yet to see anything beyond basic scrolling or page changing that I would call legitimately useful. Until that happens, I'll prefer to keep my hands placed on the keyboard or mouse where scrolling or page changing are concerned thank you very much.
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that's why I bought refurb when the new ones came out in Jan. You will still get plenty of years out of it. Hell, my kid still likes my G4 for web stuff.
I bought a Macbook in mid 06 and the hard drive crapped out mid 09, the battery was toast, the screen had a scratch(my fault, but adds to making the repair a waste) and it only had 1GB or ram. If this one literally dies in 3 years I won't be buying another Apple. As others have said there are comparable and arguably better machines out there for less money, I like the finish and operation of a Mac, but I can run the Apple OS or Linux on virtually any modern computer, if I'm paying a premium I expect premium or I'll spend my money elsewhere.
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Oh and I'm getting the mouse. My mighty mouse's track ball hasnt been working for over a year now. only scrolls up
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I bought a Macbook in mid 06 and the hard drive crapped out mid 09, the battery was toast, the screen had a scratch(my fault, but adds to making the repair a waste) and it only had 1GB or ram. If this one literally dies in 3 years I won't be buying another Apple. As others have said there are comparable and arguably better machines out there for less money, I like the finish and operation of a Mac, but I can run the Apple OS or Linux on virtually any modern computer, if I'm paying a premium I expect premium or I'll spend my money elsewhere.
You just had a bad experience. I'm on my 3rd apple laptop in almost 10 years...and only because I want it that way. I gave my MIL my last one this summer and it stills great after 6 years.
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For all the hoopla multi-touch displays are getting from the Microsoft world, I have yet to see anything beyond basic scrolling or page changing that I would call legitimately useful. Until that happens, I'll prefer to keep my hands placed on the keyboard or mouse where scrolling or page changing are concerned thank you very much.


Now I can see a definite multi-touch use for developing in Adobe Flash. Oh man I can picture it now being able to just touch frames, move objects, resize them, etc. There are definite benefits to going to multi-touch for businesses, not so much for consumers.
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You just had a bad experience. I'm on my 3rd apple laptop in almost 10 years...and only because I want it that way. I gave my MIL my last one this summer and it stills great after 6 years.
That's what I'm hoping, I have no problem upgrading every few years, but a computer that dies with no warning is just a plain hassle. I had 95% of the content backed up, but lost 5% and a couple of frustrating days figuring out what to buy. I also didn't have the luxury of waiting a month for the new Macbook Pro's which came out just over a month after I bought my iMac, I would have much preferred another laptop. I like the iMac, don't get me wrong, it's a great computer and can see using it for a long time, but now I need to build a hackintosh netbook for mobile use, instead of one computer for all of it.
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna View Post
This is Apple's response to Windows 7 and it's weak.
How is releasing new/updated hardware a response to a competitor releasing new software?

And for the record, Apple has been updating their product lineup at this time of year for many years now.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal View Post
How is releasing new/updated hardware a response to a competitor releasing new software?

And for the record, Apple has been updating their product lineup at this time of year for many years now.
Because it's how they can overshadow MS at this point. MS doesn't release HW (peripherals aside).

My opinion is each company has it's blockbuster announcements as follows

MS = New Windows version

Apple= New MPB or iMac, ect.
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Because it's how they can overshadow MS at this point. MS doesn't release HW (peripherals aside).

My opinion is each company has it's blockbuster announcements as follows

MS = New Windows version

Apple= New MPB or iMac, ect.
Fine I see that, but how can that be used as an argument when Apple has released new/updated hardware over the years around this very same time period. IMHO, it's more like Microsoft intended to take away from Apple's planned announcements/release schedule, not the other way around.
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If they did it last week or the week before I wouldn't have said anything but two days before. And it's not just Windows 7 it is the ton of new PCs launching on the 22nd as well. you know the 95% of the PC industries big day is in two days and Apple being about 4% is trying to get their two days of glory before it's too late. Maybe they'll release a couple more anti-vista ads while they still can.
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Then they say lets go check out the macs, they walkup to the iMac and touch it's screen and nothing happens it doesn't do shit.
Whatever gave you the idea that every Windows 7 PC will have a touch screen?
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Wait, no pinch zoom on the mouse? Isn't pinch the #1 use for multitouch?

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If they did it last week or the week before I wouldn't have said anything but two days before. And it's not just Windows 7 it is the ton of new PCs launching on the 22nd as well. you know the 95% of the PC industries big day is in two days and Apple being about 4% is trying to get their two days of glory before it's too late. Maybe they'll release a couple more anti-vista ads while they still can.
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Wait, no pinch zoom on the mouse? Isn't pinch the #1 use for multitouch?
There's a slim (but real) possibility this may have been deliberate. When the first generation of Macbook Pros arrived with multitouch trackpads, users of Photoshop CS4 -the only graphics app to support MT at the time- hated multitouch with a venomous passion and cried for a way to disable it in PS. IIRC most of the complaints were about accidental zooming.

That said, there's a substantial difference between a trackpad where your thumb is already in place for a gesture and a mouse where you'd consciously have to move your thumb up to the multitouch surface.
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Oh know! B&N just announced their e-reader. They must be trying to take away from the Windows 7 launch!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/20/b...ally-launched/
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Whatever gave you the idea that every Windows 7 PC will have a touch screen?
I never said that. I said "They see all the new PCs that have multi-touch capablitity" not "They see that all PCs have multi-touch capability". there's a difference. Anyways there's gonna be a lot coming out, I'd say on average 3 models from each manufacturer. Off the top of my head I can think of 4 from HP, 3 from Dell, 2 from Sony, 3 from Gateway, 3 from Acer. Most of them under $1000.
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I never said that. I said "They see all the new PCs that have multi-touch capablitity" not "They see that all PCs have multi-touch capability". there's a difference. Anyways there's gonna be a lot coming out, I'd say on average 3 models from each manufacturer. Off the top of my head I can think of 4 from HP, 3 from Dell, 2 from Sony, 3 from Gateway, 3 from Acer. Most of them under $1000.
Is there really that much of a demand for multi-touch computing though? A large majority of the computing public still use their computer to simply get on the internet, check their email, look at photos/video and play games. Even if they sell great at first, I can see it sputtering when people realize just how much of a novelty it is. Where multi-touch is going to be helpful is in areas where graphic design, video editing, research, etc., play out.

Perhaps I'm missing out on some new superb way of reading my email using multi-touch. Then again, some spam messages would be mighty nice in multi-touch.
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This all reminds me of a sound bite that a local radio host used to play.

"You have no pride. You have no shame. You're in marketing!"
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yeah there's no use for multi-touch in PCs, none

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So then the multi-touch on the iPhone for browsing the internet and checking email is a novelty? Oh of course it's not it's from Apple. What about this supposed 10in screen Apple multi-touch tablet that will becoming out soon that everyone is so excited about. It's going to be the savior. But if you put multi-touch in a 10in netbook/tablet then it's useless. Slap an Apple logo on the back and it's the greatest thing ever.
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Multi-touch would be great for gaming and photo viewing too just as it is on the iPhone/iTouch. So I'm really not seeing your point. If multi-touch is great on the iPhone for internet, email, photos, games. Why wouldn't it be for netbooks, tablets, laptops, desktops? From what I've seen from people who've actually used a multi-touch PC it's natural and intuitive. That's why they call it a Natural User Interface. You don't use a small handheld device to control an object you touch it and make it do what you want.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_User_Interface

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