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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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Eh, it's on it's own card. It's not soldered on like the ram is. No reason it can't be replaced. Just give the market time to release the upgrades.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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The Kindle Fire is more locked down than any other tablet...apple included. The Nexus 7 is the better comparison.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Maharajamd
Eh, it's on it's own card. It's not soldered on like the ram is. No reason it can't be replaced. Just give the market time to release the upgrades.
Go to OWC....they have some upgrade solutions...look at the cost...

I'm not just complaining for the sake of not knowing about other alternatives.

The SSD is custom to apple as is the memory.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Numbers are not adding up for me. While I love the look of the retina, I dont see the cost value with it. I would pay the retina cost for more power and lighter, but wondering if someone like me who doesnt do photography needs it.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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I think apple should have dropped the rear camera in the ipad mini to cut down the price. Never understood why people used camera on their ipad, cause most likely their phone is a better shooter. And it just looks silly.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
As much as I want a 13".....it would be better money spent to get a 15" with 2.6, 16GB, 768 for 3300.
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Way ahead of you, pricing out the 15's now
That is why I didn't wait. Also got a discount because I'm a NAPP member.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
I think apple should have dropped the rear camera in the ipad mini to cut down the price. Never understood why people used camera on their ipad, cause most likely their phone is a better shooter. And it just looks silly.
That camera cost about $10.... Some don't have phone with a camera. I met two people this pass weekend as such. ANd the camera on the iPad3 is better than a lot of the phones out there.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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I guess I would never consider getting that big of a SSD. I said it yesterday, I couldn't even imagine buying a 120+ GB SSD yet alone a 756GB...
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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How long before a 13" rMBP shows up at refurb store? Maybe save $200-$250 off regular price?
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Maharajamd
I guess I would never consider getting that big of a SSD. I said it yesterday, I couldn't even imagine buying a 120+ GB SSD yet alone a 756GB...
For a desktop, I can see your point, I got 256mb and a damn fast spinner. But for enclosed laptops, get what you can buy when you buy it. More and more companies are following Apples lead this way.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AZuser
How long before a 13" rMBP shows up at refurb store? Maybe save $200-$250 off regular price?
5 years.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Gonna be hard for me to not want the iPad Mini.
1. Good size for reading books (I do love my original Kindle)
2. It's just that "bit" bigger than the Nexus 7 so magazines would still be readable without much constant resizing
3. Ditto #2 for watching movies/TV
4. Works with all the other Apple products I already have.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
For a desktop, I can see your point, I got 256mb and a damn fast spinner. But for enclosed laptops, get what you can buy when you buy it. More and more companies are following Apples lead this way.
With Thunderbolt drives and Cloud storage, Im going the other way. I have a 256 GB SSD in my mac now and use about 100 of it with Windows 8 in Bootcamp as well.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
That is why I didn't wait. Also got a discount because I'm a NAPP member.
More of a discount than education?
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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That camera cost about $10.... Some don't have phone with a camera. I met two people this pass weekend as such. ANd the camera on the iPad3 is better than a lot of the phones out there.
$10?? I dunno somehow i dont believe that, could totally be wrong though. Now i know the ipad 3 had a much better camera than the 2 and OG. The 2 and OG sucked real bad. My NS was a better point and shoot than those things. My dad has the 2. Never seen the new one though so i cant say. But it has the same optics as the 4s i believe? And face it most people with an ipad have a relatively new smartphone chances are that its an iphone 5 or 4s. So the camera is as good, quicker to get out.

Tablets just need a front facing camera for video chatting IMO
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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External HDDs, the Cloud....I just don't see the need for that big of an SSD.

For instance, let's say Sarlacc here is doing video editing on his rMBP. If you need more space then say the 128GB, it's highly likely that 756GB won't be enough either.

I still follow the line of though that OS, apps, and constantly reused docs utilize the SSD. Not everything.

Especially at the prices they charge for it.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by speedemon90
$10?? I dunno somehow i dont believe that, could totally be wrong though. Now i know the ipad 3 had a much better camera than the 2 and OG. The 2 and OG sucked real bad. My NS was a better point and shoot than those things. My dad has the 2. Never seen the new one though so i cant say. But it has the same optics as the 4s i believe? And face it most people with an ipad have a relatively new smartphone chances are that its an iphone 5 or 4s. So the camera is as good, quicker to get out.

Tablets just need a front facing camera for video chatting IMO
Agree. Love seeing people holding their iPads up to take pics, kinda silly.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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On my current laptop I have a 120SSD.....swapped out when my 320GB died.

But I still have a 500GB iMac to merge over as well.

I might for the 2.9 with only a 512 and just deal.

But it leads me to wonder if 8GB RAM will suffice for longevity.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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I have a HP Envy and Macbook pro now. I should sell them both and get one 15 inch Retina. Right? Am I right?
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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supposedly at googles event on monday, the 16gb nexus 7 may drop to $200. No clue if thats true.
Its true. Some Staples are already selling the 32 GB for $249 right now. The 16 GB will drop to $199 and they're saying they might release a gimped 8 GB version for $99. Not sure how true the last rumor is. Also you have to remember the Nexus is pocketable at its size which is the primary reason it was built to be that size which adds greatly to its portability. I don't know how pocketable the new iPad Mini is but based on their side by side it looked a little wider. Its funny how they make no mention of the ppi difference huh. The Nexus 7 also has GPS, a pretty good one actually, which you would probably have to get the LTE version on the Mini for. There's a bunch of pros and cons for both devices but they should've priced the Mini at $299, gotten rid of the iPad 2 and replaced it with the 3 and dropped the iPod Touch to $269 or around there. As a side note, Apple seems to have a bunch of products now covering all size ranges. The haven't done that in a while.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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With Thunderbolt drives and Cloud storage, Im going the other way. I have a 256 GB SSD in my mac now and use about 100 of it with Windows 8 in Bootcamp as well.
Don't trust cloud, once cloud and cell networks are better, then I might rely on them. But I can see your point.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Maharajamd
External HDDs, the Cloud....I just don't see the need for that big of an SSD.

For instance, let's say Sarlacc here is doing video editing on his rMBP. If you need more space then say the 128GB, it's highly likely that 756GB won't be enough either.

I still follow the line of though that OS, apps, and constantly reused docs utilize the SSD. Not everything.

Especially at the prices they charge for it.
768 would allow me to have the majority of my photo library on board without ALWAYS having to use externals. And allow me to keep enough hard drive space open for performance.

Its not a must...but a large convience.

remember....just because you have 768 doesnt mean you should use it all....any hard drive shouldnt really be more than 2/3 full or you start risking a total loss or performance decrease.

Maybe Im old school in that when it comes to SSD
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cmschmie
Agree. Love seeing people holding their iPads up to take pics, kinda silly.
Just as it was for people with RAZR's about five years ago...
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Don't trust cloud, once cloud and cell networks are better, then I might rely on them. But I can see your point.
cloud is good for music, etc right now.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Cloud is great for docs, cloud is great for most except pics and vids.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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cloud is good for music, etc right now.
When I'm on a mountain side in West Va, I want my music with me, not sitting somewhere I can't reach it. Once I hit wifi, then the cloud works for image sharing between devices.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc

But it leads me to wonder if 8GB RAM will suffice for longevity.
i only have 4GB
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I have a HP Envy and Macbook pro now. I should sell them both and get one 15 inch Retina. Right? Am I right?
or get a non retina and a new HP envy (the windows 8 hybrid one, dunno if its envy or w/e it is)
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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Just as it was for people with RAZR's about five years ago...
umm not really...
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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When I'm on a mountain side in West Va
Thats your first problem.

Side...music on iphone...not laptop. problem solved.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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So will 8GB be enough to live....or will I kick myself in a year or two?
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:05 PM
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^I take back what I said before. If the time is now, go big on the ram. And deal with the smaller hdd...

You can add more storage (externally). Apparently you can't add more ram. So...do it or you'll regret it.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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umm not really...
Uh, yes it was, it was a piece of shit 1mb phone, but people still tried to take pictures with it.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Thats your first problem.

Side...music on iphone...not laptop. problem solved.
I don't really keep music on my phone, a little. I have a 16gb nano for that. Battery lasts much longer.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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^I take back what I said before. If the time is now, go big on the ram. And deal with the smaller hdd...

You can add more storage (externally). Apparently you can't add more ram. So...do it or you'll regret it.
My point is the 13" maxes out at 8GB period. Is it enough to survive.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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So will 8GB be enough to live....or will I kick myself in a year or two?
Its fine unless you run vm's
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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Its fine unless you run vm's
I dont run VM. I run Adobe Lightroom.....And Adobe has always been notorious for being a RAM hog.

My current laptop...I actually havent maxed out the RAM...Im still at 4GB (because like maharaja mentioned) I use to buy base RAM and upgrade cheaper when it was an option...and I never did with this one.
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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