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True. The fact that I got the TLX well below invoice definitely adds to the satisfaction level!
That’s definitely the saving grace for Acuras in general. For all the nits and minor gripes I have, the fact that I got mine for 25% off sticker new makes it a hell of a deal. I pity those who paid sticker for theirs, because it most certainly was not worth anywhere close to that.
Good for you. We all love deals and discounts Also, you got a nice car. Enjoy it.
Sometimes, it's good to block the noise and enjoy your purchase.
Quick question: How is the gas consumption? City and highway mixed.
From my first fillup (after 3 weeks!), my fuel economy was 22.5 mpg on about the same city/hwy split as in the review. This is a lot better than my MDX that gave about 19 mpg for the same splits.
From my first fillup (after 3 weeks!), my fuel economy was 22.5 mpg on about the same city/hwy split as in the review. This is a lot better than my MDX that gave about 19 mpg for the same splits.
Work has been insane lately but I wanted to share a quick update. Took my IS350 to CarMax 10 days ago and received an offer $2K better than what they offered at the beginning of Covid even after a little friendly hit-n-skip at Target in May. That said, it was time to upgrade, I finally managed to take a little trip last night to pick up this 2021 BMW M340i xDrive. For anyone else in the midwest, I cannot recommend BMW of Louisville enough. I worked with Nathan Langford and this was, hands down, the smoothest car transaction I've ever had. The car was not available within the 7-days of my CarMax offer so after a few pictures and details, Nathan said they would honor that trade-in price to work with my schedule and when the car would be available. So yesterday I drove 3 hours from Columbus to get the car and am thrilled. Averaged 34 MPG doing 80+ the entire way home. I'm exhausted between work and the drive yesterday but thrilled with the car.
Work has been insane lately but I wanted to share a quick update. Took my IS350 to CarMax 10 days ago and received an offer $2K better than what they offered at the beginning of Covid even after a little friendly hit-n-skip at Target in May. That said, it was time to upgrade, I finally managed to take a little trip last night to pick up this 2021 BMW M340i xDrive. For anyone else in the midwest, I cannot recommend BMW of Louisville enough. I worked with Nathan Langford and this was, hands down, the smoothest car transaction I've ever had. The car was not available within the 7-days of my CarMax offer so after a few pictures and details, Nathan said they would honor that trade-in price to work with my schedule and when the car would be available. So yesterday I drove 3 hours from Columbus to get the car and am thrilled. Averaged 34 MPG doing 80+ the entire way home. I'm exhausted between work and the drive yesterday but thrilled with the car.
Work has been insane lately but I wanted to share a quick update. Took my IS350 to CarMax 10 days ago and received an offer $2K better than what they offered at the beginning of Covid even after a little friendly hit-n-skip at Target in May. That said, it was time to upgrade, I finally managed to take a little trip last night to pick up this 2021 BMW M340i xDrive. For anyone else in the midwest, I cannot recommend BMW of Louisville enough. I worked with Nathan Langford and this was, hands down, the smoothest car transaction I've ever had. The car was not available within the 7-days of my CarMax offer so after a few pictures and details, Nathan said they would honor that trade-in price to work with my schedule and when the car would be available. So yesterday I drove 3 hours from Columbus to get the car and am thrilled. Averaged 34 MPG doing 80+ the entire way home. I'm exhausted between work and the drive yesterday but thrilled with the car.
No, that's true. However, that's a beautiful segue into these tables:
Note that the competition has anywhere from 80-90% of the features for the TLX and ~$10k more MSRP (I'll put that savings towards something else!)
I would not confuse the word the Competition with Similar in Size. The Chevy Impala @ $29,000 292BHP is similar in size to all of the above so is the Accord.
Exterior length 198.4"
Exterior body width 75"
Exterior body height 57.8"
Wheelbase 120"
Front track 63.4"
Rear track 63.8"
Turning radius18.8"
Interior cargo volume 16.5CuFt
Front legroom 41.8"
Rear legroom 40.1"
Front headroom 38.6"
Rear headroom 36.6"
Front hiproom 56.2"
Rear hiproom 56.1"
Front shoulder room 59.5"
Rear shoulder room 57.9"
Passenger volume 105CuFt
The fact that you can save $10,000 says they are not competitors. I don't see a choice where you have people who are spending +$10K for a car vs people paying -$10K for theirs's. The + group in almost all cases could have bought a TLX if the chose to. The - group in almost all cases could not have bought an E Class if the wished to
BTW You could have saved more if you bought the Chevy if you believe matching dimensions has any real meaning. If dimensions are that important there was always the Accord which has most of them beat
The reality is the marketplace says the premium cars are worth $10,000 more because people pay $10,000 more. Acura advertising is still trying to sell "feel good stuff" to make the buyers happier with their purchase. Have missed the premium cars adds saying they have this or that measurement bigger than one or more of the other 3 brands. In fact you almost never see a premium brand mention the competition in their advertising. There is no need on their part to feel almost as good as X.
As soon as you say that you are placing yourself in a subordinate position to those you are comparing against.
Work has been insane lately but I wanted to share a quick update. Took my IS350 to CarMax 10 days ago and received an offer $2K better than what they offered at the beginning of Covid even after a little friendly hit-n-skip at Target in May. That said, it was time to upgrade, I finally managed to take a little trip last night to pick up this 2021 BMW M340i xDrive. For anyone else in the midwest, I cannot recommend BMW of Louisville enough. I worked with Nathan Langford and this was, hands down, the smoothest car transaction I've ever had. The car was not available within the 7-days of my CarMax offer so after a few pictures and details, Nathan said they would honor that trade-in price to work with my schedule and when the car would be available. So yesterday I drove 3 hours from Columbus to get the car and am thrilled. Averaged 34 MPG doing 80+ the entire way home. I'm exhausted between work and the drive yesterday but thrilled with the car.
Congratulations on your new car.
I am amazed at the mileage these cars will knock down at speed. Our beach run 200 odd miles & its just set the CC @ 85MPH & roll. Will normally return 31/22MPG
Work has been insane lately but I wanted to share a quick update. Took my IS350 to CarMax 10 days ago and received an offer $2K better than what they offered at the beginning of Covid even after a little friendly hit-n-skip at Target in May. That said, it was time to upgrade, I finally managed to take a little trip last night to pick up this 2021 BMW M340i xDrive. For anyone else in the midwest, I cannot recommend BMW of Louisville enough. I worked with Nathan Langford and this was, hands down, the smoothest car transaction I've ever had. The car was not available within the 7-days of my CarMax offer so after a few pictures and details, Nathan said they would honor that trade-in price to work with my schedule and when the car would be available. So yesterday I drove 3 hours from Columbus to get the car and am thrilled. Averaged 34 MPG doing 80+ the entire way home. I'm exhausted between work and the drive yesterday but thrilled with the car.
Work has been insane lately but I wanted to share a quick update. Took my IS350 to CarMax 10 days ago and received an offer $2K better than what they offered at the beginning of Covid even after a little friendly hit-n-skip at Target in May. That said, it was time to upgrade, I finally managed to take a little trip last night to pick up this 2021 BMW M340i xDrive. For anyone else in the midwest, I cannot recommend BMW of Louisville enough. I worked with Nathan Langford and this was, hands down, the smoothest car transaction I've ever had. The car was not available within the 7-days of my CarMax offer so after a few pictures and details, Nathan said they would honor that trade-in price to work with my schedule and when the car would be available. So yesterday I drove 3 hours from Columbus to get the car and am thrilled. Averaged 34 MPG doing 80+ the entire way home. I'm exhausted between work and the drive yesterday but thrilled with the car.
Congratulations Collin! Sure is a beautiful machine! Just incase you get the itch https://ind-distribution.com/collections/3-series-g20 and if you plan on doing a downpipe, I'd suggest Evolution Racewerks catted verison. When I bought my 2019 X3 M40i, I had a 9 hour drive back home. I broke 32-33 MPG in Eco pro mode. With the supra I went from NJ to MA and averaged 35 MPG and that vehicle doesn't have an eco mode. Safe travels!
Despite having a longer wheelbase and longer car length, the new TLX still came short with interior space. According to Car and Driver, the TLX’s rear-seat has too little space for a luxury compact sedan. However, Acura sent a rebuttal; they claimed consumers’ migration to crossovers emboldened them to sacrifice interior space for beauty – believing those that are keen on space have moved on to SUV, anyway. Makes me laugh.
MotorTrend also said the transmission isn’t responsive enough.
Despite having a longer wheelbase and longer car length, the new TLX still came short with interior space. According to Car and Driver, the TLX’s rear-seat has too little space for a luxury compact sedan. However, Acura sent a rebuttal; they claimed consumers’ migration to crossovers emboldened them to sacrifice interior space for beauty – believing those that are keen on space have moved on to SUV, anyway. Makes me laugh.
MotorTrend also said the transmission isn’t responsive enough.
Rear space being lacking is not a big deal for luxury cars. My comparison table clearly shows none of the other German automakers care either. I have a paper due on why Porsche decided to start making SUV’s in 2003. If you are serious about space, an SUV makes much more sense.
Rear space being lacking is not a big deal for luxury cars. My comparison table clearly shows none of the other German automakers care either. I have a paper due on why Porsche decided to start making SUV’s in 2003. If you are serious about space, an SUV makes much more sense.
Posted this in the wrong thread but can't move its so here it is again for some.
Originally Posted by ELIN
Note that the cars to the right are all turbo 4-cyl. and have anywhere from 80-90% of the features for the TLX and ~$10k more MSRP (I'll put that savings towards something else!)
I would not confuse the word the Competition with Similar in Size. The Chevy Impala @ $29,000 292BHP is similar in size to all of the above so is the Accord.
Exterior length 198.4" Exterior body width 75" Exterior body height 57.8" Wheelbase 120" Front track 63.4" Rear track 63.8" Turning radius18.8" Interior cargo volume 16.5CuFt Front legroom 41.8" Rear legroom 40.1" Front headroom 38.6" Rear headroom 36.6" Front hiproom 56.2" Rear hiproom 56.1" Front shoulder room 59.5" Rear shoulder room 57.9" Passenger volume 105CuFt
The fact that you can save $10,000 says they are not competitors. I don't see a choice where you have people who are spending +$10K for a car vs people paying -$10K for theirs's. The + group in almost all cases could have bought a TLX if the chose to. The - group in almost all cases could not have bought an E Class if the wished to
BTW You could have saved more if you bought the Chevy if you believe matching dimensions has any real meaning. If dimensions are that important there was always the Accord which has most of them beat
The reality is the marketplace says the premium cars are worth $10,000 more because people pay $10,000 more. Acura advertising is still trying to sell "feel good stuff" to make the buyers happier with their purchase. Have missed the premium cars adds saying they have this or that measurement bigger than one or more of the other 3 brands. In fact you almost never see a premium brand mention the competition in their advertising. There is no need on their part to feel almost as good as X.
As soon as you say that you are placing yourself in a subordinate position to those you are comparing against.
As for Porsche & the SUV. The Cayenne was sold in 2002 to add volume because the Cayman/Boxster were two seaters & the 911 was a 2+2 with room for small kids. They had no true 4 seat car.
The Panamera was introduced in 2009 to give them a 4 door car so its actually the other way round for Porsche the SUV came before the 4 door car.
Posted this in the wrong thread but can't move its so here it is again for some.
I would not confuse the word the Competition with Similar in Size. The Chevy Impala @ $29,000 292BHP is similar in size to all of the above so is the Accord.
Exterior length 198.4" Exterior body width 75" Exterior body height 57.8" Wheelbase 120" Front track 63.4" Rear track 63.8" Turning radius18.8" Interior cargo volume 16.5CuFt Front legroom 41.8" Rear legroom 40.1" Front headroom 38.6" Rear headroom 36.6" Front hiproom 56.2" Rear hiproom 56.1" Front shoulder room 59.5" Rear shoulder room 57.9" Passenger volume 105CuFt
The fact that you can save $10,000 says they are not competitors. I don't see a choice where you have people who are spending +$10K for a car vs people paying -$10K for theirs's. The + group in almost all cases could have bought a TLX if the chose to. The - group in almost all cases could not have bought an E Class if the wished to
BTW You could have saved more if you bought the Chevy if you believe matching dimensions has any real meaning. If dimensions are that important there was always the Accord which has most of them beat
The reality is the marketplace says the premium cars are worth $10,000 more because people pay $10,000 more. Acura advertising is still trying to sell "feel good stuff" to make the buyers happier with their purchase. Have missed the premium cars adds saying they have this or that measurement bigger than one or more of the other 3 brands. In fact you almost never see a premium brand mention the competition in their advertising. There is no need on their part to feel almost as good as X.
As soon as you say that you are placing yourself in a subordinate position to those you are comparing against.
As for Porsche & the SUV. The Cayenne was sold in 2002 to add volume because the Cayman/Boxster were two seaters & the 911 was a 2+2 with room for small kids. They had no true 4 seat car.
The Panamera was introduced in 2009 to give them a 4 door car so its actually the other way round for Porsche the SUV came before the 4 door car.
I meant to respond to this in the other thread but I'll respond here:
The way I see it, the German luxury brands (MB, Audi, and BMW) are all "old luxury". They did it first and they did it well with not much competition for a while except each other. Then along came the Japanese upstarts who came from Toyota, Honda, and Nissan. Their existence is still fairly new in the grand scheme of things so you can call them "new luxury". Even newer still is Hyundai's luxury brand of Genesis so the Koreans have finally made their mark. What the Asian companies have in common is that the platforms are typically obtained from the non-luxury lines, saving quite a bit of money in R&D (Audi and Porsche have done this to). This savings gets passed on to the customer but it also creates the PERCEPTION that their products are just not as good as "old luxury". There appears to be a lot of elitism in these forum threads that I just don't understand because both "old luxury" and "new luxury" make very good cars and there isn't one manufacturer out there that I can say is head and shoulders above the rest because competition is good.
Based on that, Impala and the Accord would not make my comparison because neither would be considered "luxury". As has been said many times by others, it's really hard to go back to non-luxury (other than financial distress) once you've had a taste.
Rear space being lacking is not a big deal for luxury cars. My comparison table clearly shows none of the other German automakers care either. I have a paper due on why Porsche decided to start making SUV’s in 2003. If you are serious about space, an SUV makes much more sense.
We have read about this one specific cons like million times lol!
So, It's nothing new...the car has many pros over cons.
Acura focused on what is known as the “dashboard-to-axle” ratio, moving the car’s cabin further back on the vehicle’s platform to visually reduce front overhang and facilitate a long hood and more dramatic front fenders. The resulting proportions mimic those of a proper luxury sport sedan, and thanks to the cohesive and compelling design, Acura need not resort to extraneous detailing to add character or make the TLX look “sporty.”
The lacking of rear seat space for the 2G TLX is the direct result of it's new styling direction that mimic the European sport sedans.
The Honda Accord and a handful of Japanese makes do not follow this European styling direction, and thus will have tons of rear passenger space versus the 2G TLX.
The lacking of rear seat space for the 2G TLX is the direct result of it's new styling direction that mimic the European sport sedans.
The Honda Accord and a handful of Japanese makes do not follow this European styling direction, and thus will have tons of rear passenger space versus the 2G TLX.
I guess that makes sense. The 1G TLX reminded me too much of Accord and now I’m more drawn to the new silhouette because it’s been “Europeanified”! Lol.
Folks from German luxury are missing out if they don’t at least test drive the car rather than obsess over reviews.
I guess that makes sense. The 1G TLX reminded me too much of Accord and now I’m more drawn to the new silhouette because it’s been “Europeanified”! Lol.
Folks from German luxury are missing out if they don’t at least test drive the car rather than obsess over reviews.
Let me get this straight, they should drive a car that's faking to be sporty where people can get a better performing car for not much more than what Acura currently charges. If you want to Europeanify, get the real thing and pay for it.
An A4 is also FWD based, but it's not Europineafying it's exterior just for looks.
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Let me get this straight, they should drive a car that's faking to be sporty where people can get a better performing car for not much more than what Acura currently charges. If you want to Europeanify, get the real thing and pay for it.
An A4 is also FWD based, but it's not Europineafying it's exterior just for looks.
I started an A6 lease shortly before the scandal broke concerning VW’s cheating with the diesel emissions. Although my A6 was not a Diesel engine, I was not exactly spared. Every so often, the check engine light would pop up. I notified my dealer and he recommended getting it “checked”. It wasn’t enough of an issue so I let it go. Shortly afterwards, there was a recall on the car that, surprise!, involved the emissions. After the recall, the check engine light never popped up again.
I lost complete trust in Audi/VW. So yeah, I’ll take a sporty looking TLX over Audi any day...since we were on the topic of “faking”...
Rear space being lacking is not a big deal for luxury cars. My comparison table clearly shows none of the other German automakers care either. I have a paper due on why Porsche decided to start making SUV’s in 2003. If you are serious about space, an SUV makes much more sense.
Originally Posted by Tony Pac
We have read about this one specific cons like million times lol!
So, It's nothing new...the car has many pros over cons.
For some (maybe many) like me, it's a big issue. If I'm buying a sedan, luxury or not, I don't care if the manufacturer has decided, "Eh, let them buy a SUV if they want more space, That just doesn't fly when sub compacts and compacts like a Civic have similar rear passenger space. If I'm forced to spend my money on a liftback or crossover to get the rear passenger space I expect in a sedan, I guess a Stinger, used Macan, or something like the upcoming GV70 will be on my future list.
I started an A6 lease shortly before the scandal broke concerning VW’s cheating with the diesel emissions. Although my A6 was not a Diesel engine, I was not exactly spared. Every so often, the check engine light would pop up. I notified my dealer and he recommended getting it “checked”. It wasn’t enough of an issue so I let it go. Shortly afterwards, there was a recall on the car that, surprise!, involved the emissions. After the recall, the check engine light never popped up again.
I lost complete trust in Audi/VW. So yeah, I’ll take a sporty looking TLX over Audi any day...since we were on the topic of “faking”...
hahah! Well said and nailed it! People tend to forget quickly what VW groupe has done in the past. VW gave us a new meaning of FAKE
For some (maybe many) like me, it's a big issue. If I'm buying a sedan, luxury or not, I don't care if the manufacturer has decided, "Eh, let them buy a SUV if they want more space, That just doesn't fly when sub compacts and compacts like a Civic have similar rear passenger space. If I'm forced to spend my money on a liftback or crossover to get the rear passenger space I expect in a sedan, I guess a Stinger, used Macan, or something like the upcoming GV70 will be on my future list.
fair enough. Totally respect your point of view. I am sure Acura didn’t send a sales rep to your door 24X7 to buy a new TLX. Right? Just simply this TLX doesn’t meet your requirements and needs and you gotta move on. As we all know, there are plenty of other brands and cars out there. You can happily choose and buy one.
i don’t mean to disrespect anyone’s opinion. But now after 2 months, we know that the rear seat of the new TLX is small. So those who want a bigger backseat, should just move on and go get a bigger car. Why waste time about this same topic over and over?
I started an A6 lease shortly before the scandal broke concerning VW’s cheating with the diesel emissions. Although my A6 was not a Diesel engine, I was not exactly spared. Every so often, the check engine light would pop up. I notified my dealer and he recommended getting it “checked”. It wasn’t enough of an issue so I let it go. Shortly afterwards, there was a recall on the car that, surprise!, involved the emissions. After the recall, the check engine light never popped up again.
I lost complete trust in Audi/VW. So yeah, I’ll take a sporty looking TLX over Audi any day...since we were on the topic of “faking”...
Welcome to the world of the ZF9 issue on the 2015 TLX, problems exist everywhere. Acura is no better at ignoring then fixing.
fair enough. Totally respect your point of view. I am sure Acura didn’t send a sales rep to your door 24X7 to buy a new TLX. Right? Just simply this TLX doesn’t meet your requirements and needs and you gotta move on. As we all know, there are plenty of other brands and cars out there. You can happily choose and buy one.
i don’t mean to disrespect anyone’s opinion. But now after 2 months, we know that the rear seat of the new TLX is small. So those who want a bigger backseat, should just move on and go get a bigger car. Why waste time about this same topic over and over?
For me, I'm not interested in anything bigger than my 1G. No disrespect taken, and your point is well received.
Welcome to the world of the ZF9 issue on the 2015 TLX, problems exist everywhere. Acura is no better at ignoring then fixing.
We are all products of our experiences. As this TLX is my first, I never experienced the issues owners of 1G experienced. Would folks still be as mad if this 2021 version was 1G instead of 2G?
We are all products of our experiences. As this TLX is my first, I never experienced the issues owners of 1G experienced. Would folks still be as mad if this 2021 version was 1G instead of 2G?
Discussions regarding the 1G are a losing battle with someone who had a bad experience. They're not willing to listen, and it's best to leave it be and move on.
Discussions regarding the 1G are a losing battle with someone who had a bad experience. They're not willing to listen, and it's best to leave it be and move on.
Going from Audi to Acura is good, Acura to Audi is bad. Got it. Just proves how hypocrital some members are when trying to justify buying the new TLX. If you buy the car and like it, all good. But trying to make it better than what it is, and downplaying the competition solely on price is not how it works. Same for saying a newer A6 is less reliable than a TLX, there's many examples of what can go wrong in the RDX forum. Jumping brand just for reliability now a days is no longer the selling point, luck also factors in. Cars are much more complex but also better designed now.
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Going from Audi to Acura is good, Acura to Audi is bad. Got it. Just proves how hypocrital some members are when trying to justify buying the new TLX. If you buy the car and like it, all good. But trying to make it better than want it is, and downplaying the competition solely on price is not how it works.
I think you misread my post. I have a 1G and I'm not vested or particularly interested in buying the 2G. Nor do I care about loyalty or conquest buying amongst brands.
TBH, I was advising the other poster that it's not a worthwhile argument once you replied, "Welcome to the world of the ZF9 issue on the 2015 TLX, problems exist everywhere. Acura is no better at ignoring then fixing."
I think you misread my post. I have a 1G and I'm not vested or particularly interested in buying the 2G. Nor do I care about loyalty or conquest buying amongst brands.
TBH, I was advising the other poster that it's not a worthwhile argument once you replied, "Welcome to the world of the ZF9 issue on the 2015 TLX, problems exist everywhere. Acura is no better at ignoring then fixing."
Sorry Carnage719, was really trying to respond to Elin. My bad.
Same for saying a newer A6 is less reliable than a TLX, there's many examples of what can go wrong in the RDX forum. Jumping brand just for reliability now a days is no longer the selling point, luck also factors in. Cars are much more complex but also better designed now.
Please tell me where I or anyone else said a newer A6 was less reliable than a TLX. You're imagining things!
I meant to respond to this in the other thread but I'll respond here:
The way I see it, the German luxury brands (MB, Audi, and BMW) are all "old luxury". They did it first and they did it well with not much competition for a while except each other. Then along came the Japanese upstarts who came from Toyota, Honda, and Nissan. Their existence is still fairly new in the grand scheme of things so you can call them "new luxury". Even newer still is Hyundai's luxury brand of Genesis so the Koreans have finally made their mark. What the Asian companies have in common is that the platforms are typically obtained from the non-luxury lines, saving quite a bit of money in R&D (Audi and Porsche have done this to). This savings gets passed on to the customer but it also creates the PERCEPTION that their products are just not as good as "old luxury". There appears to be a lot of elitism in these forum threads that I just don't understand because both "old luxury" and "new luxury" make very good cars and there isn't one manufacturer out there that I can say is head and shoulders above the rest because competition is good.
Based on that, Impala and the Accord would not make my comparison because neither would be considered "luxury". As has been said many times by others, it's really hard to go back to non-luxury (other than financial distress) once you've had a taste.
Sorry but can't buy it. There is luxury & there is non luxury nothing more nothing less. Luxury is defined as something that is not essential but is expensive, desirable or valuable and provides comfort.
You can't make case for the TLX & not make the same case for a near identical car the Accord or Impala. What all three have in common is they are invisible in the luxury market.
Honda makes one luxury car the NSX. The rest are nice cars nothing wrong with them but so far people are not paying what some of the low level luxury car makes are getting. BMW can sell a small 2 series car that is an economy car with a 1.5-litre three-cylinder engine in Europe & here with a full performance package for $65,000 MSRP. The US M2 at $65,000 is a pure luxury.
So far the only Asian car commanding top end (luxury pricing) is Lexus. Genesis is on the hunt but not there yet. The word luxury gets thrown around a lot but its not something bought by the pound or buy the yard. Its the price that people will/can pay that determines if something is a luxury.
Get two similarly functional items items one at $40,000 the other at $70,000. The $70,000 item is a luxury. Example a $5.00 digital watch will keep as good a time as a $2,900 Longines Master Collection watch. One is just a watch the other is a luxury.
Randomly ask 100 people in the street to name a luxury car & would bet Acura never gets mentioned. Acura calling itself a luxury car does not make it so. Bang for the buck is the antithesis of luxury, which is expensive. You can't be both.
Sorry but can't buy it. There is luxury & there is non luxury nothing more nothing less. Luxury is defined as something that is not essential but is expensive, desirable or valuable and provides comfort.
You can't make case for the TLX & not make the same case for a near identical car the Accord or Impala. What all three have in common is they are invisible in the luxury market.
Honda makes one luxury car the NSX. The rest are nice cars nothing wrong with them but so far people are not paying what some of the low level luxury car makes are getting. BMW can sell a small 2 series car that is an economy car with a 1.5-litre three-cylinder engine in Europe & here with a full performance package for $65,000 MSRP. The US M2 at $65,000 is a pure luxury.
So far the only Asian car commanding top end (luxury pricing) is Lexus. Genesis is on the hunt but not there yet. The word luxury gets thrown around a lot but its not something bought by the pound or buy the yard. Its the price that people will/can pay that determines if something is a luxury.
Get two similarly functional items items one at $40,000 the other at $70,000. The $70,000 item is a luxury. Example a $5.00 digital watch will keep as good a time as a $2,900 Longines Master Collection watch. One is just a watch the other is a luxury.
Randomly ask 100 people in the street to name a luxury car & would bet Acura never gets mentioned. Acura calling itself a luxury car does not make it so. Bang for the buck is the antithesis of luxury, which is expensive. You can't be both.
You say that Lexus is luxury but Acura is not. This makes no sense to me as they have comparable competing cars at similar price points (luxury divisions of Toyota and Honda). If Acura is not luxury then neither is Lexus!
Your view of luxury seems overly subjective to me.
Acura doesn't immediately come to mind when someone says luxury so I'll give you that.
11-25-2020, 10:28 AM
Also, you got a nice car. Enjoy it. 
