pyrodan007

I have a 15 year old 19'' Dell monitor, 13 year old 46'' Samsung LED TV, and a 12 year old Intel Q6600 CPU system all working flawlessly. If electronics are properly designed and cared for, they can last until the rust eats the car apart.

fiatlux

But they're not redundant, It's not like the screen in the middle replaces the tach and speedometer, and it's not like the speedometer and tach replaces the information in the middle.

Edit: I guess it can replace the speedo.

Carnage719

Possibly. But my experience with analog is it will potentially fail after 15-20yrs when it's someone else's problem.

a35tl

Alex's new review focusing on the Advance vs A-Spec was a decent watch.

BEAR-AvHistory

The 330 6MT was a few 10ths quicker to 60, the G35 6MT was 1/10 quicker in the 1/4 mile, think it then switched back to the 330 with a higher top speed. The G35 AT was a dog finished IIRC 4th out of 6 in a 6 way compare that the 330 won.
Agree on the G35 coupe. Came very very close to buying one.

BCOmega

We took our 2020 RDX to the dealer today for an oil & filter change, and while waiting we looked at the 2021 TLX. They had one in modern steel metallic sitting outside and it was really sharp looking. Inside they had a white Advance SH-AWD model on the showroom floor. It was also sharp looking although I personally prefer the modern steel metallic.

Sat in the driver's seat of the showroom vehicle and interior was very nice, and roomy up front. The battery was not connected so I could not adjust the seats. I'm 6' tall with longish legs and the driver's seat was a little too far back for me. I then tried to sit in the back seat but it was too tight for me to get into, not usable for me. Don't know if it would be usable if I had been able to move the driver's seat forward.

The salesman who sold us our RDX talked to us for a bit. I consider him to have some technical knowledge of the cars. Interestingly, without prompting, he commented that the tuning of the engine / transmission in the TLX was a little different than in the RDX and he prefers the RDX, saying its more responsive. Said he would not be surprised if Acura modifies the drivetrain tuning of the TLX at some point.

FWIW- I have never noticed any hesitation in our RDX whether driving or in the passenger seat.

Legend2TL

TLS 2G interior review

Matt Maran has two reviews typically, driving and general overview of the vehicle.
The a static interior review with Beth and Matt which goes over all the interior stuff (materials, seats, infotainment, sound system,....)

Flapjackura

All I gotta say is Matt's a lucky guy. Both their reviews are usually pretty spot-on, too.

Tony Pac

Thanks for sharing!

10/10 WOW!

I like the fact that he was honest and said the backseat and trunk are smaller but not the smallest in this segment. Bur he isn't biased. He was very clear: go check it and see if it's a deal breaker for you. Well done!

ELIN

"PopSocket may have interfered with the wireless charging." Probably the most millennial thing I've heard in a TLX review so far!

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Tesla1856

Interesting. I also had a hard time finding the sweet-spot on the wireless-charger in the Advance during the review of it at the Acura dealer.
I thought it might be the (thin/minimal silicone) case on my iPhone-SE-2020 .

However, same phone/case set ( I never remove it) charges fine in both of our Audis.
You just drop it in there and it charges.

And while we are the subject, you should know:
- the Audi Phone-Box (as they call it) also boosts cell-phone reception by letting you use the car's roof antenna.
- the 2021-A5 also has Wireless Apple CarPlay (and it works). I never knew, but it turns-out to works via WiFi.

ELIN

Does wireless CarPlay require you to pay for the hot spot service eventually just for the WIFI?

Tesla1856

No. That WiFi is different/separate.
Good question, BTW.

MSZ

5.96s 0-60

ELIN

This was one of my favorite reviews. He drove over snow and sand to demonstrate SH-AWD. Also mentioned Quattro was improved to better match SH AWD capabilities.

Tesla1856

Agreed.
Even showed Super-Cruise (even in un-favorable conditions).

Less talking, more doing.

a35tl

Accord Touring 2.0T vs. Acura TLX Advance (Both '21 models)
Video posted in the competition thread too. Just noticed that.

BEAR-AvHistory

Interesting they give the TLX .5 because it has more BHP then turn around & give the Accord .5 because its faster WTF. These are car guys? The point of more power that gives you less performance is ? Maybe you still loose but not as badly?

Over to Tony Pac.

mapleloaf

Again, launch power straight ahead is only part of performance. The difference in launch speed is minimal, but the difference in handling is not.

BEAR-AvHistory

Thing is the horsepower, launch, passing, throttle usage are one parameter. The Accord has less power but out performs the TLX. Handling is an another parameter. If they think the TLX out handles the Accord 1 point for the TLX. I don't see how you can give a winning point to horsepower in a slower car.

I have 382BHP one of the lower numbers in the performance group but am quicker than most all of them till you get into some major BHP numbers. Be hard to see someone give a red 400 a nod over an M340 because it has more rated power when even up it will eat its lunch & steal in candy money.

In the handling area once you take away the narrative the raw test numbers say this
TLX
Braking, 70–0 mph: 177 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g

Accord
Braking, 70–0 mph: 171 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g

So is it a question of someone's feelings that the TLX handles better or do the raw numbers say the lighter car handles equal or better?

Actual Sports Sedans that the TLX wants to be typically look like this
Braking, 70–0 mph: 155 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.96 g

Sport cars typically look like this.
Braking, 70–0 mph: 148 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.02 g

TSX69

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/12/th...021-acura-tlx/

The Deceiving Design Detail Οf Τhe All-New 2021 Acura TLX

BY David Desilet | Posted on December 13, 2020 105Acura is looking to reclaim its reputation for building some of the most excellent handling premium (or at least, near premium) cars on the market. Names like Integra, Vigor and Legend are lost on young kids unless they love Ludacris.



Most Acuras, as of late, are barely an improvement over their Honda counterparts. Complicated dual-screen infotainment systems and beak-like grilles have not helped its cause either.

The Revival

When the Japanese company unveiled the Type-S concept last year, it was like a beacon of hope for the Acura faithful. Not only did it mark the return of the fabled Type-S moniker, but it seemed like a modern sports sedan that looked ready to go toe-to-toe with the best of the competition. I hadn’t paid much attention to it or the production-spec TLX until recently. The striking design caught my eye when driving past the local Acura dealership and my eyes lasered in on one specific body panel: the front fender.

Also Read: First Reviews Of 2021 Acura TLX Are In, Is It As Competitive As It Needs To Be?
Acura previewed the new-gen TLX with the Type S Concept in 2019More specifically, I noticed the distance between the dashboard cowl and the front axle. The dash-to axle-ratio of the new TLX writes a check that the chassis can’t cash. Typically a long dash-to-axle would indicate a longitudinally-mounted, rear-wheel-drive platform. This gives the TLX an athletic stance of a proper performance car. All the best luxury compact sports sedans on the market ride on RWD platforms. Acura has always stuck with the front-wheel-drive formula, offering their SH-AWD as an option. The new TLX is no different.



Was this design choice made to fool the average consumer? Probably not, as most buyers would never even notice it – at least not purposely. Transverse-mounted, front-wheel-drive cars tend to have short stubby noses. Subconsciously, this design trick lends a more appealing design to the TLX even to those who don’t know or care what lies beneath.

And what has Acura to say about all this? We asked a company representative who told us that “the TLX’s long dash to axle ratio was very deliberate, and a ‘win’ the designers were thrilled with” as “it gives the TLX beautiful rear drive proportions and stance”.

“It also allowed space to package both engines that will be offered – the current 2.0T and the upcoming 3.0T V6 that needs significantly more space” the spokesperson explained. “And while I’m mentioning proportions, we also added double wishbone suspension which is a more compact suspension ‘package’ so allowed us to lower the hood line. Double wishbone also has significant handling benefits obviously.”



All the sports sedans

The TLX has stout rear-wheel-drive competition from pure-premium to near-premium models all over the globe. German stalwarts include the BMW 3-series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class while other Asian offerings are the Infiniti Q50 and Genesis G70; the Cadillac CT5 is the sole American. Can the Acura hold up against the rest? First reviews show that even with power heading primarily to the wrong front wheels, the TLX is every bit the sports sedan as its challengers. The one to wait for is, of course, the twin-turbo V6-powered Type-S. Arriving next spring, the Type-S will be the true testament of their performance-driven intentions.
See how the new Acura TLX’s profile compares to the BMW 3-Series, Audi A4 and the Genesis G70 sedans

As it turns out, you can build a proper sports sedan without rear-wheel-drive (I never thought I would write that sentence). I haven’t had a chance to get behind the wheel yet, but I have driven the previous TLX A-Spec, and it could hold its own. If the early reviews are any indication, the new TLX will cement Acura’s place in building great driver’s cars again.

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ELIN

"As it turns out, you can build a proper sports sedan without rear-wheel-drive (I never thought I would write that sentence)."

I think I felt a collective cringe somewhere in this forum. Mr. Desilet may need to seek shelter soon!

fiatlux

I think the cringe may come from his next sentence.

Even if true, how the heck does he get to make that determination without having even driven the car for himself?

Tony Pac

You like to pass it to me but you love to write history books hahahaha! All good brother. Enjoy your day!

ELIN

In that same sentence, he mentioned he's driven the A-Spec. If the A-Spec referenced is the 2021 model, was he referring to the Type S that he hasn't driven?

fiatlux

He says he's driven the previous A-Spec.

BEAR-AvHistory

He has to be saying it looks like a sports sedan, I agree with that, its a nice looking car inside & out. If he is saying a car with an 6 second 0-60 & 0.87G skid pad number drives like a sports sedan I would respectfully disagree. Need to wait to see how the TypeS turns out before that leap is made.

Same as politicians saying an AR15 is an assault weapon because it looks like one.

Its performance that defines both not the visual.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Lol the SG review is good. I remember how some were like, oh let's watch how SG will bash this car. Not happening lol.

He actually did mention the brakes into he video. He said the brakes are not soft like the prior TL and tlx. He said the car is very engaging to drive and doesn't take long to find where the braking point is and that it doesn't take much steering input to throw the car into a corner with very good balance (no under steering like the 3rd gen TL).

I think the mdx will replace my rdx. Looks like acura hit a home run with it. Can't wait for the reviews early next year.

neuronbob

Yeah, the whole digital dash thing is a minor criticism. I think the TLX’s analog dials look really good.

Carnage719

Kind of like a stitched dash is an overrated distinction of luxury. If quality materials are used, I don't care if it's stitched.

Legend2TL

The digital dash is a personal preference, to me they're great and make a big difference to driving. I look at needle gauges and they seem so old and dates but I also understand why some folks prefer them.

Carnage719

What if the digital representation is still a gauge with a moving needle?

I prefer analog gauges and a large digital screen in between, but I'm not opposed to all-digital if the UI makes sense and the info displayed is concise and relevant. I think Audi has the best system to date.

fiatlux

Not really a review per se, but the IIHS just released the test results and (as expected) it aced almost all of them, including the challenging small-overlap test. Minimal cabin intrusion, A-pillar held up perfectly, and better HIC-15 scores than most of the competition aside from Volvo (duh). Only knock was on some higher-than-average g-forces on the legs.


https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...oor-sedan/2021

Legend2TL

yeah, I presume they're married (he has a wedding band on). Kinda amused Beth's biggest pet peeve are front passenger seats that don't height adjust.

+1, I've watch perhaps a dozen of his reviews and Matt seems pretty neutral and covers alot of driving and ownership aspects in his reviews.
His review technique seems to be a more middle of the road approach with AoA being the sensible practical viewpoint and SG being the performance viewpoint.


+1 yeah, Matt's reviews are unbiased to me.


LOL, I remember that now it's like crickets chirping

SebringSilver

ROFL....he reviewed the car without driving it?? That’s comedy gold.

neuronbob

Same logic applies to manual transmissions . Sure, a DCT is faster and makes you faster, but I understand why people (like myself) prefer manual transmissions.

Jiten Patel

LOL they accepted the car for what it is.

ELIN

If Mark was going to be a little more honest, he should have covered the longer stopping distance in his review. Even after > 500 miles on my TLX, I feel like I need to keep my "Spidey Sense" active to avoid ramming the car in front of me. The last time I had this type of feeling was on a 2011 Sienna minivan, which supposedly rides on Camry brakes!

Vicious Type S

The reason I like the digital gauges is it can open opportunities for other cool features like showing the blind spot cameras on the left or right sside of the screen when u have the turn signals on, but I am content with the 2G's current setup.