Android: Phone News and Discussion Thread
Yea its just my laptop, I dunno. We have a dual band router, but i make sure i'm connected to the one chromecast is too. I never put in the time to make it work yet
Plus its at home and i'm not living home right now. I dont need it at my apt either.
Haha no time dude! Already got my current shows that are airing and dont have time to watch anything else at the moment
Plus its at home and i'm not living home right now. I dont need it at my apt either. Haha no time dude! Already got my current shows that are airing and dont have time to watch anything else at the moment
Will Samsung own Android's future?
At its first Developer Conference, Android's biggest player makes its move
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/25/5...android-future
At its first Developer Conference, Android's biggest player makes its move
While Samsung might be the biggest manufacturer of Android hardware, the company has spent much of the last few years building a software experience for its devices that’s uniquely its own. Samsung’s user interface now covers up nearly every bit of Android with a custom design or replacement app, and the company has added a slew of unique (if sometimes unnecessary) features to the OS. If it wasn’t already clear, Samsung’s first annual Developers Conference, which kicks off next week in San Francisco, is the latest indication that the company is serious about software as a way to stand out. Instead of developing just for Android, Samsung wants developers building products specifically for its hardware, a move that could benefit Samsung’s customers — but could also fragment the Android ecosystem even further.
In an open letter to developers, Samsung’s senior VP of media solutions Curtis Sasaki said that his company is "committed to accelerating Android app development," and it’s a notion he reinforced in a conversation with The Verge. "A lot of developers look at the app stores and see there’s 800,000 applications, 1 million applications available — how do they stand above the crowd?" Sasaki asks. "How do they differentiate and get exposure?" The answer, he believes, is developing on top of what Samsung’s building. "Part of the message is that Samsung has innovated so much on our products," he says. "If [developers] take advantage of that, they can obviously differentiate but they can also create, in many cases, better user experiences by leveraging our products."
THE BIGGEST ANDROID MANUFACTURER MAKES ITS CASE TO THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY
Sasaki called out Twitter’s new tablet-specific app for the Galaxy Note 10.1 as a good example of a developer building something special for the platform. "You can write tweets with the pen now, but it also supports multi-window," he says. "Because we have really good hardware underlying the platform now, we can do some amazing things that you don’t see in other devices.That’s one example of leveraging the multitasking, multi-window support to build a very meaningful experience." Of course, such an experience might be great for Samsung and its customers, but other Android tablet users are stuck with the same blown-up smartphone app. It’s a good example of how much power Samsung wields in the Android space right now. Twitter could have built an Android tablet app that worked on any manufacturer’s hardware (perhaps with Note-specific features for Samsung’s customers), but instead the entire app is exclusive to Samsung.
Building differentiated, unique experiences for its devices was a theme of our conversation with Sasaki — and it’s a logical position to take, given Samsung’s dominance in the Android space. That dominance is a main part of Sasaki’s argument getting more attention from developers. "I think there’s an expectation by users that they’ll get the best possible experience for the investment they make," Sasaki says — he wants the best tablet experience to be on a Samsung device. "As the largest-volume Android seller, we think we’re in a good position to leverage our capabilities in hardware and software to provide that experience."
Of course, Samsung makes far more hardware than just Android phones and tablets, and the company also wants to leverage that to differentiate itself. The growing popularity of the "multiscreen experience" (consumers augmenting their TV viewing with a tablet, for example) is another one that Sasaki thinks Samsung us uniquely suited to solving. "We don’t want to just replicate or mirror a screen from your tablet to your TV," Sasaki says — perhaps taking a subtle dig at iPad mirroring on the Apple TV. "What are the kinds of services, if you have a tablet on your lap as you’re watching TV… how do you create an augmented experience that is really unique and differentiated?" He says that Samsung was doing a lot of work in the space and that multiscreen functions would be a major theme at the conference — it’s a logical place to go, with Samsung having a major stake in the smartphone, tablet, and TV markets. That’s reflected in the content of the conference — Sasaki said Samsung wanted to offer "not just mobile, technical tracks, but might want to learn about developing for TVs, programming for enterprise, even gaming."
SAMSUNG'S DEVELOPER CONFERENCE COULD MARK A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN THE ANDROID MARKET
"First and foremost, we are in relentless pursuit of great software," Sasaki writes in his letter to developers. "The next big innovations — the ones that permanently and positively alter how we work and play — will be largely shaped by you." What’s going unsaid — but is implied by the entirety of Samsung’s event — is that the company wants those innovations to be built on top of its hardware and software. For now, that’s primarily Android, but in five years maybe it’ll be on a forked version of Android (like Amazon’s Kindle Fire OS) that replaces Google services with Samsung’s — or maybe Samsung’s own operating system entirely. We may look back at Samsung’s Developer Conference as the beginning of a fundamental shift in the Android market — particularly if it leads to a future in which all of the best app and features are Samsung exclusives.
In an open letter to developers, Samsung’s senior VP of media solutions Curtis Sasaki said that his company is "committed to accelerating Android app development," and it’s a notion he reinforced in a conversation with The Verge. "A lot of developers look at the app stores and see there’s 800,000 applications, 1 million applications available — how do they stand above the crowd?" Sasaki asks. "How do they differentiate and get exposure?" The answer, he believes, is developing on top of what Samsung’s building. "Part of the message is that Samsung has innovated so much on our products," he says. "If [developers] take advantage of that, they can obviously differentiate but they can also create, in many cases, better user experiences by leveraging our products."
THE BIGGEST ANDROID MANUFACTURER MAKES ITS CASE TO THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY
Sasaki called out Twitter’s new tablet-specific app for the Galaxy Note 10.1 as a good example of a developer building something special for the platform. "You can write tweets with the pen now, but it also supports multi-window," he says. "Because we have really good hardware underlying the platform now, we can do some amazing things that you don’t see in other devices.That’s one example of leveraging the multitasking, multi-window support to build a very meaningful experience." Of course, such an experience might be great for Samsung and its customers, but other Android tablet users are stuck with the same blown-up smartphone app. It’s a good example of how much power Samsung wields in the Android space right now. Twitter could have built an Android tablet app that worked on any manufacturer’s hardware (perhaps with Note-specific features for Samsung’s customers), but instead the entire app is exclusive to Samsung.
Building differentiated, unique experiences for its devices was a theme of our conversation with Sasaki — and it’s a logical position to take, given Samsung’s dominance in the Android space. That dominance is a main part of Sasaki’s argument getting more attention from developers. "I think there’s an expectation by users that they’ll get the best possible experience for the investment they make," Sasaki says — he wants the best tablet experience to be on a Samsung device. "As the largest-volume Android seller, we think we’re in a good position to leverage our capabilities in hardware and software to provide that experience."
Of course, Samsung makes far more hardware than just Android phones and tablets, and the company also wants to leverage that to differentiate itself. The growing popularity of the "multiscreen experience" (consumers augmenting their TV viewing with a tablet, for example) is another one that Sasaki thinks Samsung us uniquely suited to solving. "We don’t want to just replicate or mirror a screen from your tablet to your TV," Sasaki says — perhaps taking a subtle dig at iPad mirroring on the Apple TV. "What are the kinds of services, if you have a tablet on your lap as you’re watching TV… how do you create an augmented experience that is really unique and differentiated?" He says that Samsung was doing a lot of work in the space and that multiscreen functions would be a major theme at the conference — it’s a logical place to go, with Samsung having a major stake in the smartphone, tablet, and TV markets. That’s reflected in the content of the conference — Sasaki said Samsung wanted to offer "not just mobile, technical tracks, but might want to learn about developing for TVs, programming for enterprise, even gaming."
SAMSUNG'S DEVELOPER CONFERENCE COULD MARK A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN THE ANDROID MARKET
"First and foremost, we are in relentless pursuit of great software," Sasaki writes in his letter to developers. "The next big innovations — the ones that permanently and positively alter how we work and play — will be largely shaped by you." What’s going unsaid — but is implied by the entirety of Samsung’s event — is that the company wants those innovations to be built on top of its hardware and software. For now, that’s primarily Android, but in five years maybe it’ll be on a forked version of Android (like Amazon’s Kindle Fire OS) that replaces Google services with Samsung’s — or maybe Samsung’s own operating system entirely. We may look back at Samsung’s Developer Conference as the beginning of a fundamental shift in the Android market — particularly if it leads to a future in which all of the best app and features are Samsung exclusives.
I think Samsung is doing this in case they ever decide to fork android years down the road. Because when they do, they already have development for all the core apps ready. They have an appstore with so many apps in it already.
At this point I dont think they will fork just because they still lose google play services and I'm sure it will take significant hit.
At this point I dont think they will fork just because they still lose google play services and I'm sure it will take significant hit.
There are various hardware stuff that is only on a handful of phones:
Fingerprint scanners (iphone 5s, htc one max, pantech secret)
rear touchpad ( oppo n1 )
external button remote (oppo one click, htc's HTC fetch),
wacom stylus (galaxy note),
etc
They are all potentially very useful but without general app support they are one trick ponies. You kind of need one "killer app" to get the device widespread, and once they are widespread, apps are more likely to follow.
- Frank
There is always an interesting chicken and egg syndrome when it comes with new/innovative hardware.
There are various hardware stuff that is only on a handful of phones:
Fingerprint scanners (iphone 5s, htc one max, pantech secret)
rear touchpad ( oppo n1 )
external button remote (oppo one click, htc's HTC fetch),
wacom stylus (galaxy note),
etc
They are all potentially very useful but without general app support they are one trick ponies. You kind of need one "killer app" to get the device widespread, and once they are widespread, apps are more likely to follow.
- Frank
There are various hardware stuff that is only on a handful of phones:
Fingerprint scanners (iphone 5s, htc one max, pantech secret)
rear touchpad ( oppo n1 )
external button remote (oppo one click, htc's HTC fetch),
wacom stylus (galaxy note),
etc
They are all potentially very useful but without general app support they are one trick ponies. You kind of need one "killer app" to get the device widespread, and once they are widespread, apps are more likely to follow.
- Frank
So you guys remember this Phoneblocks video
I dunno about you but I was extremely skeptical, especially after reading some articles about it.
Well today Motorola announced its been at a similar vision for almost a year now
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/20...hello-ara.html
I dunno about you but I was extremely skeptical, especially after reading some articles about it.
Well today Motorola announced its been at a similar vision for almost a year now

http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/20...hello-ara.html
I'm on G+ more than I'm on here nowadays. AndroidPolice is a good start:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/04...d-now-app-net/
I follow a bunch of the Android sites and developers on there like Koush and Steve:
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147
https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476
Anyone try out OmniROM yet? They have multiwindow support. They're also not based off CM like all the other AOSP ROMs out there:
http://omnirom.org/
I'm hearings a lot of good things about CarbonROM as well. May have to check it out some time.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/04...d-now-app-net/
I follow a bunch of the Android sites and developers on there like Koush and Steve:
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147
https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476
Anyone try out OmniROM yet? They have multiwindow support. They're also not based off CM like all the other AOSP ROMs out there:
http://omnirom.org/
I'm hearings a lot of good things about CarbonROM as well. May have to check it out some time.
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I might have also removed a bunch of inactives from my circles in my last spring cleaning.
It happened in the last hour. All of the apps below are currently showing Oct 29, 2013 as the most recent update; but there's no changelog and no roll out yet. If you include Google+ (which had its own press event), that's 12 apps 13 apps (including Blogger) that will be updated at some point this week.
Could tomorrow be N5/Kit Kat day? Or is it just bug fixes as part of 'update Wednesday'?
Apps:
Gmail[1]
Drive[2]
Calendar[3]
Earth[4]
Translate[5]
Chrome[6]
Hangouts[7]
Goggles[8]
Play Magazines[9]
Keep[10]
Wallet[11]
Blogger[12]
Could tomorrow be N5/Kit Kat day? Or is it just bug fixes as part of 'update Wednesday'?
Apps:
Gmail[1]
Drive[2]
Calendar[3]
Earth[4]
Translate[5]
Chrome[6]
Hangouts[7]
Goggles[8]
Play Magazines[9]
Keep[10]
Wallet[11]
Blogger[12]
Either Google is about to troll everyone with bug fixes or Kit Kat is about to be dropped. Modaco (Paul O' Brien) is almost sure that the N5 will be in people's hands by November 1st.
Nexus 5 on the 1st November eh? Now that is new information! #nonotreally #beentheresaidthat #youhearditherefirst


I've been enjoying mine too, sadly that chromecast thread is dead.









