So you can get the Nexus 5 for any carrier apparently? $299 starting price for an unlocked phone????

 

4.4 isn't even out yet. Slow down, turbo. Want faster updates, get a Nexus.

Where in the blue hell did you read that?

 

lol!!
and damn, no reveal today...

since, no reveal...we dont have a clue on how its going to be priced.
we can take a look at history and figure out a range.
new nexus 7 dropped and was $50 dollars more than the 1st gen nexus 7.
so, we're expecting a $300-350 phone.

whats that saying about filling your left hand with hope and the right with shit?
which one fills up faster??

and yes, the phone is unlocked. which means any carrier can be used.

 

^^^ any GSM carrier can be used....CDMA carriers cant be used

I was eager to see the nexus 5 but was not sure of the price which it gets launched at....




on a different note, I will post a review of the note 3 once I finish with my daily meetings

 

^^ Well, that's not true either. The Nexus 5 as shown in the FCC filing can be used on Sprint as well. It is only Verizon that has yet to allow non-carrier branded phones on their LTE network.

 

Spoiler alert!












... its awesome!

I've been living with my new Note 3 the past week and love it! .. still only
using about 7% of what it can do but the S-pen is my new best friend.

Looking forward to a real review from swoosh :-)

 

^^^ how will that work though?

GSM is where you insert a SIM and CDMA is where the phone has a built in module (right?)....so you will have to buy a phone which has that built in module....

 

Short answer: No.

Yes, GSM uses SIM cards, but CDMA phones also can have SIM cards - just not to access the CDMA network. How else do you think Verizon and Sprint would have access to LTE without a SIM card?

The only difference between unlocked GSM and CDMA phones is the difficulty to switch between carriers. With GSM, all you do is switch out SIM cards. But with CDMA, you have to go to the carrier and ask them to activate your phone with their network to that specific number with no guarantees of knowledge, success, or helpfulness from the person you are asking to do so.

The Nexus 5 has just about all CDMA, 3G, and LTE bands built into the phone. Hence, it can work with all networks in the US (not Verizon) that allow unlocked phones.

 

Verizon User says: "What's an update?"

 

Well, it gave me a system update but Im still on 4.2.2

 

4.1.2 here... Sigh.

 

Bastards...

 

I haven't been keeping up with the updates on the N5. I just heard a bunch of rumors, repeated so often that I thought that was the truth.

Yep. Fuck Verizon. I thought I was clever by jumping ship from AT&T... Verizon blows chunks, and even with a discount, it's silly expensive for what you get.

The reason why I ask if you can use any carrier (okay, any GSM carrier) is because I want to go to T-Mobile.

 

Google is teasing us!!!
https://plus.google.com/106430858425...ts/giCzN8aSvET

 

The truth is that in Phoenix, I think Verizon has the best coverage, and since I use the phone as much for business as personal, it has to work. If i suddenly needed a family plan for a few kids, etc... I would probably not use Verizon. It just sucks that I will probably never get an update on the RazrM, I really like the Lock Screen Widget on my N7.

 

Not trying to bring you guys down, but for phones/devices that are not from Google, DO NOT EVER expect a major update. It costs time and money (which is money and money) to implement a carrier phone update. Because they are most likely trying to implement the latest version of Android on their up and coming phones. If the old phones aren't making them money, they have no reason to invest time in it.

 

When? When?

 

That's why I think the carrier software overlay model is dead. OS updates should be from android directly and if Verizon wants to add stuff, it should have to work with android, not the other way around. Nexus phones are the start and others will follow. Reasonably priced unlocked phones are the next iteration of this market.

 

This will only happen when Nexus products start making a huge splash in the market.

Being an open system, google allows companies too do whatever they want. They need to tweak it so they explicitly state that the manufacturer/carrier are responsible for handing out updated software within X amount of months.

 

stogie, where your are wrong is that Nexus phones are not forcing carriers to change the way they do updates. Nexus phones get updates because they are unlocked and not attached to carriers. They do not have to go through the carrier's network and scrutiny before they touch your phone. Every carrier branded locked phone can't get full OS updates like a Nexus.

This is why with 4.3 onwards, Google is splitting up their core apps and some OS stuff into Google Play so that you can just get updated that way instead of having to wait from carriers.

Ultimately, the US phone market is the worst in the world in terms of consumer benefits. It won't change unless every phone manufacturer demands so, but that will never happen.

 

4.3 is not that much different from 4.2. So for the people on 4.2, they're not missing that much. With that said, I traded in my silver HTC One yesterday for....




A black HTC One. I wanted a black one ever since I wanted this phone and I got one yesterday for a warranty exchange at AT&T's DSC. Didn't even know they existed. I was getting the purple tint in low light which I thought was going to be fixed via an OTA but never happened and my WiFi was flaky as it dropped every now and then. So I walked into a DSC and got it exchanged right then and there. (They didn't have any silver left so the manager offered to overnight me a silver one but I needed to make sure the camera was working on the spot so they allowed me to get a black one.) Low lights are amazing on the new unit (no more purple tints!) and I no longer drop WiFi on certain routers. Oh and I have S-Off again so I can convert my One to a Google Editition One if I want.


Any way, HTC updated the Ones to 4.3 for the past few weeks now. There's a Sense 5.5 build leak which I'm going to try out after this post. Lol. Supposedly made Blinkfeed much better with the option of fully disabling it for the Blinkfeed haters. Have to give props to HTC for being the first to update their device like they promised back in the day.

 

HTC made some subtle changes with Sense 5.5. Still going through it but it looks like for the better. For one, Blinkfeed now has access to Google+ and the design looks a little more streamlined.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1242...anges-reviewed

 

posted by KitKat

 

My god they just need to release it already!

 

^16 kitkat bars was used to spell that
today's the 16th...

coincidence?

 

Yes haha, until they send out invites that have the actual date I will not be looking into it as a possible release

 

I guess I meant that the Nexus represented a new trend in affordable unlocked phones. Carriers may need to start looking for other revenue streams besides handsets as I think the manufacturers will begin selling direct to consumer at a reasonable price (sub $300).

So ultimately I think it will be that I can pay ~ $300 for no carrier installed software and rapid OS updates, or $199 for the same phone from the carrier with a low chance of updates and their "value add" software.

 

THIS !!!

and particularly with ATT Next and Tmobile Jump....they are trying to take more money from people....

How you ask...

Say your monthly bill is $100 (lets simplify things)
Say you get a $600 phone for $200...

So its $100x24(months) + $200 (for phone) +$36(upgrade fee) = $2636 over 2 years

ATT NEXT and Tmobile Jump:
$100x24(months) + $600(you are paying full price off the phone) = $3000 over 2 years....

dont know how peeps think its a good idea...I know you are not in a contract but still unless you buy a phone for $400 and sell it for $600, you will always loose money with these programs....


I think I see this as an opportunity for Google...I wish they would come out with a Nexus 4 (say a new phone) and Nexus 5 running 4.4....for say $300 for the 4 and $350 for the 5....this will cater to a LARGER crowd, the phone is right from the company that builds the OS, people can afford it, people will keep it updated with the latest OS and updates and the cellphone carriers will be "forced" to lower some costs...

 

yes..

 

your math is off, swoosh....

 

^^^lolol

am asian brahh....I love Math

 

Nope. Still not going to happen that way either. You don't realize that the US and parts of the world are still in a fvcked up way of thinking where they believe that higher prices equals better quality. That is how brands like Apple, Beats, and Monster can laugh all the way to the bank. Smartphone makers will never lower the price on purpose unless everyone does it at the same time or it is decreed by aliens/gods/law. They are making way too much profit on these phones. Only reason Google can sell them as cheap is because Google is eating the cost and paying the OEM the profits they would have made off each handset.

OEMs already sell their handsets directly to consumers everywhere but the US because US carriers are the most f'ed up dirtbags in the world in this field of work. They have all the power and will never change unless forced to by the apocalypse.

I disagree with Swoosh's thinking of making 2 phones by Google to entice larger crowds. Just too much work and not enough payoff. 1 phone 2 storage sizes (16gb and 32gb) at $50 price difference will be the staple. Selling them a year later at reduced prices before the new one comes out would be better than having excess stock of 2 vastly different hardware to lose money on a year later in a fire sale.

As for 4.4 Kit Kat, it is coming on the 28th just in time for Halloween later that week (also to destroy the crap Apple ipad retina announcement next week). Asus Nexus 10 will be available to buy online and in stores as well.

 

The reason manufacturers will not want this though is because that means cellphones are moving towards commoditization. Google is fine with this because they don't care to make a profit out of their hardware since they're still focus is on their services.

 

Tmobile
cost of phone = 600 dollars from carrier.
100 down = 500.
$20x24= the cost to pay off that 500.

and then they have 60 dollar unlimited plans.
60x24= 1440

in 2 years, you will have spent 1440 + the price of the phone.
= $2040.

 

Justin, first off I was assuming the monthly payment...

in your situation, say you get the same 600 bucks phone for $200 with a 2 year contract....

so 60x24 = 1440 + $200 for the phone + activation cost which is say 1700 bucks which is STILL less than $2040

even if they sell the phone for $300 and charge you $60 for activation (which is outrageous), you will still be at $1800

catch my drift?

 

^lol non-tmobile problems.

we dont have plans, activation fees or anything.

pay the price of the phone and a 60 dollar monthly fee is all.
it gets interesting with the nexus 5, since the rumored price is $350.

 

^^^ thats on the new program....even with ATT NEXT...you dont have to pay upgrade fee...but when you dont get the next program they charge you a $36 fee which they waive off when you spend 34 seconds with the rep on the call....

I still say you are paying wayyyy toooo much for your PHONE (not plan, PHONE)....

and your math is off since you didnt take uncle Sam into your equation

 

^says the person who is still paying for activation fees, etc.

 

^^^ I didnt

and I got a $349 phone for $199 when I wasnt even ready for an upgrade until May 2014


yeah I pay 150 for 2 lines but I get 25mbps download speed on 4G LTE and unlimited data

 

^sore loser.