NBA: 2011-2012 Season News and Discussion Thread
06-20-2012, 01:49 PM
#2681
I'm a Laker diehard, but I dislike Laker forums. I also dislike those forums where people can just troll. It never turns out good.All the same though, it helps to have a thick skin here.
Huh? New Orleans is just shady as heck. Everything that has to do with them is motivated by some external force, not basketball.
06-20-2012, 01:53 PM
#2682
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (1)
Lol, we know. For the most part, this thread (and sub forum as a whole) is probably the most civil... other forums I frequent have alot of hatred spewed back and forth in sports discussions.
And in other NBA News:
The Wizards have agreed to trade Rashard Lewis and 2012 second-rounder for Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza.
Guess Naw'Leans is trying to make salary space?
And in other NBA News:
The Wizards have agreed to trade Rashard Lewis and 2012 second-rounder for Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza.
Guess Naw'Leans is trying to make salary space?
There is no place for that stuff here.
06-20-2012, 01:56 PM
#2683
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
Well, so far, the LeHeat looks like they have learned. But, now, they need to close.
My son is WAY cuter than that. 
06-20-2012, 02:19 PM
#2685
Hey News Flash!!! Just like the kid realized, IT'S OVER!!! Book em Deno! Chalk it up as a win! HEATwill be crowned/Ringed NBA CHAMPIONS...What is going to be hilarious, just like this thread, the media will change its hole perception and subjects to talk about rather then talked negatively about LeBron. I guess they will have the weather to talk about or watch the Food Channel since ESPN won't be talking about Lebron not being the clutch player or leader he should be... Its going to be GREAT! to see how everything will change when discussing NBA from here on out...Mark my words again... and of course, It will be sealed if WADE scores his 22-25pts... Seal the deal, this is all Lebron needs WADE to do. Send the OKC Elementry kids home crying.
06-20-2012, 03:16 PM
#2686
Suzuka Master
Another great game. Westbrook was Rondo ECF redux, poor foul at the end but he's human. James has clearly taken over the reins from Wade, I was impressed he almost had the triple double and he certainly dished out a lot of dimes. He has improved court vision in seeing the impending double team and finding the open shooter.
The game was really close. Sefolosha could have made that tre but that was good Miami D. I started out rooting for the Thunder because they were having such a magical run and I really like Durant but I am looking forward to LBJ getting his due and all the haters to quit riding his ass. He plays like a man among boys.
The game was really close. Sefolosha could have made that tre but that was good Miami D. I started out rooting for the Thunder because they were having such a magical run and I really like Durant but I am looking forward to LBJ getting his due and all the haters to quit riding his ass. He plays like a man among boys.
06-20-2012, 06:13 PM
#2695
Yeah OKC is just not ready they actually got further than I thought they would nobody could have predicted them winning 4 in a row against the Spurs. Barring any meltdowns the Heat will win the championship and we could realistically see these 2 teams back next year(hopefully not Go Lakers!) Even though Westbrook made that mistake at the end of the game there was no guarantee they would have won if he didn't and he kept OKC in the game so I can't blame him one bit. Harden has shrunk under the pressure and they need him to perform for the Thunder to be at their best.
Any suggestion that OKC is losing because of the bad calls by the refs is just stupid there are so many other reasons why their losing (missing free throws, being outrebounded) etc.
Any suggestion that OKC is losing because of the bad calls by the refs is just stupid there are so many other reasons why their losing (missing free throws, being outrebounded) etc.
06-20-2012, 07:16 PM
#2696
Well said... i am really hating the ref confrontation... as ic the Thunder played flawlessly...lol! Like u said there 6th man never showed, bench stunk, no depth, KD only 19 shots, Russell W streaky nights, mental break down all together in the lime light and no steady consistancy from the team...tgis is just a few reasons and none has anything to do with refs.
06-20-2012, 10:03 PM
#2698
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
06-21-2012, 07:19 AM
#2699
Team Owner
Notice how Illinois picked the same as Oklahoma. Wonder why 
You guys really gotta hear the press conference Lebron had yesterday. He has really matured over the past year and admitted a lot of things. Respect continues to grow for this man.
sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-hyde-heat-thunder-nba-finals-0621-20120620,0,469921.column
You guys really gotta hear the press conference Lebron had yesterday. He has really matured over the past year and admitted a lot of things. Respect continues to grow for this man.
sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-hyde-heat-thunder-nba-finals-0621-20120620,0,469921.column
South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
LeBron is comfortable, humble, on the brink of a ring
With one more win to go, LeBron shows his human side
Dave Hyde
Sun Sentinel Columnist
8:34 PM EDT, June 20, 2012
Advertisement
MIAMI — There's something very different about LeBron James right now. Something refreshing. Everyone sees it and it showed again Wednesday when, on the brink of this year's breakthrough, another question came about last year's failure.
LeBron was so human in the answer, so startlingly human, that he gushed with humility and talent and flaws and vanity that mainly told of the comfort he's living these NBA Finals to open himself up like that.
Maybe that's what this entire playoff run has been about for him. Comfort. Maybe Pat Riley's words at the start of the year — "You've got to be relaxed when the moment comes" — have taken root in his head and down through his play.
Because all postseason long — all season long, really — watching him play for a basketball fan has been like watching Mozart play with the string section or Monet among the water lilies. It's not everyday sports. It's basketball for advanced fans.
"Last year after Game 6, after losing, once again, I was very frustrated,'' he said Wednesday to the question of the Finals' loss to Dallas. " I was very hurt that I let my teammates down, and I was very immature.
"Like I've said before, last year I played to prove people wrong instead of just playing my game, instead of just going out and having fun and playing a game that I grew up loving and why I fell in love with the game.
"So I was very immature last year after Game 6 towards you guys [in the media] and towards everyone that was watching. One thing that I learned, and someone taught me this, the greatest teacher you can have in life is experience.
"I've experienced some things in my long but short career, and I'm able to make better of myself throughout these playoffs and throughout this whole year, and that's on and off the court.
"I'm just happy that I'm able to be in this position today and be back in this stage where I can do the things that I can do to make this team proud, make this organization proud, and we'll see what happens."
Whew. People love to throw around the idea of potential, as if that's something anyone with talent should maximize. But how many of us reach our potential? How many of us simply stop striving at some point?
This is the interesting part of LeBron as he stands within one win of a ring. He's grown enough as a person to deliver an answer that recognizes his very public flaws and yet retain a very healthy sense of self.
He's grown as a player, too. That's the equally interesting part. These Finals are Exhibit A. He went to Houston last summer and developed a post game with the help of Hall of Fame center Hakeem Olajuwon after mystifyingly not having one his entire career.
Perhaps watching Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki last year showed him the need to keep growing. Perhaps it was how pint-sizedJ.J. Barea stopped him from backing down that did it.
But there he was again in Tuesday's Game 4, getting the ball in the post and damaging Oklahoma City time after time. Shooting. Muscling. Passing. Attacking. Whatever the moment demanded.
"I've talked to [Olajuwon] three times these playoffs, and he tells me to continue to do what I've been doing — staying in the post will get you easy buckets,'' LeBron said. "And he also tells me to continue to have fun. That's the thing he noticed with me this year."
Pressure? "I haven't really felt that much,'' he said. "Last year, it was much more than it is today. I remember Game 5 last year with the series tied 2-2. It just felt like more pressure, more people, felt like you guys not only brought yourselves but brought your relatives all into Dallas."
Then he gets back to that idea again. "I'm more comfortable."
Topic A for the national media entering tonight's possible close-out game is if America will appreciate LeBron if the Heat win. But who cares about that? Even he seems at a station where, if America does come back, he doesn't need the love anymore.
He's been humbled. He's grown from it. He's comfortable. How many of us have achieved that?
Dhyde@tribune.com.
Copyright © 2012, South Florida Sun-Sentinel
LeBron is comfortable, humble, on the brink of a ring
With one more win to go, LeBron shows his human side
Dave Hyde
Sun Sentinel Columnist
8:34 PM EDT, June 20, 2012
Advertisement
MIAMI — There's something very different about LeBron James right now. Something refreshing. Everyone sees it and it showed again Wednesday when, on the brink of this year's breakthrough, another question came about last year's failure.
LeBron was so human in the answer, so startlingly human, that he gushed with humility and talent and flaws and vanity that mainly told of the comfort he's living these NBA Finals to open himself up like that.
Maybe that's what this entire playoff run has been about for him. Comfort. Maybe Pat Riley's words at the start of the year — "You've got to be relaxed when the moment comes" — have taken root in his head and down through his play.
Because all postseason long — all season long, really — watching him play for a basketball fan has been like watching Mozart play with the string section or Monet among the water lilies. It's not everyday sports. It's basketball for advanced fans.
"Last year after Game 6, after losing, once again, I was very frustrated,'' he said Wednesday to the question of the Finals' loss to Dallas. " I was very hurt that I let my teammates down, and I was very immature.
"Like I've said before, last year I played to prove people wrong instead of just playing my game, instead of just going out and having fun and playing a game that I grew up loving and why I fell in love with the game.
"So I was very immature last year after Game 6 towards you guys [in the media] and towards everyone that was watching. One thing that I learned, and someone taught me this, the greatest teacher you can have in life is experience.
"I've experienced some things in my long but short career, and I'm able to make better of myself throughout these playoffs and throughout this whole year, and that's on and off the court.
"I'm just happy that I'm able to be in this position today and be back in this stage where I can do the things that I can do to make this team proud, make this organization proud, and we'll see what happens."
Whew. People love to throw around the idea of potential, as if that's something anyone with talent should maximize. But how many of us reach our potential? How many of us simply stop striving at some point?
This is the interesting part of LeBron as he stands within one win of a ring. He's grown enough as a person to deliver an answer that recognizes his very public flaws and yet retain a very healthy sense of self.
He's grown as a player, too. That's the equally interesting part. These Finals are Exhibit A. He went to Houston last summer and developed a post game with the help of Hall of Fame center Hakeem Olajuwon after mystifyingly not having one his entire career.
Perhaps watching Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki last year showed him the need to keep growing. Perhaps it was how pint-sizedJ.J. Barea stopped him from backing down that did it.
But there he was again in Tuesday's Game 4, getting the ball in the post and damaging Oklahoma City time after time. Shooting. Muscling. Passing. Attacking. Whatever the moment demanded.
"I've talked to [Olajuwon] three times these playoffs, and he tells me to continue to do what I've been doing — staying in the post will get you easy buckets,'' LeBron said. "And he also tells me to continue to have fun. That's the thing he noticed with me this year."
Pressure? "I haven't really felt that much,'' he said. "Last year, it was much more than it is today. I remember Game 5 last year with the series tied 2-2. It just felt like more pressure, more people, felt like you guys not only brought yourselves but brought your relatives all into Dallas."
Then he gets back to that idea again. "I'm more comfortable."
Topic A for the national media entering tonight's possible close-out game is if America will appreciate LeBron if the Heat win. But who cares about that? Even he seems at a station where, if America does come back, he doesn't need the love anymore.
He's been humbled. He's grown from it. He's comfortable. How many of us have achieved that?
Dhyde@tribune.com.
Copyright © 2012, South Florida Sun-Sentinel
Last edited by Doom878; 06-21-2012 at 07:29 AM.
06-21-2012, 07:31 AM
#2700
Three Wheelin'
Yeah OKC is just not ready they actually got further than I thought they would nobody could have predicted them winning 4 in a row against the Spurs. Barring any meltdowns the Heat will win the championship and we could realistically see these 2 teams back next year(hopefully not Go Lakers!) Even though Westbrook made that mistake at the end of the game there was no guarantee they would have won if he didn't and he kept OKC in the game so I can't blame him one bit. Harden has shrunk under the pressure and they need him to perform for the Thunder to be at their best.
Any suggestion that OKC is losing because of the bad calls by the refs is just stupid there are so many other reasons why their losing (missing free throws, being outrebounded) etc.
Any suggestion that OKC is losing because of the bad calls by the refs is just stupid there are so many other reasons why their losing (missing free throws, being outrebounded) etc.
Well said... i am really hating the ref confrontation... as ic the Thunder played flawlessly...lol! Like u said there 6th man never showed, bench stunk, no depth, KD only 19 shots, Russell W streaky nights, mental break down all together in the lime light and no steady consistancy from the team...tgis is just a few reasons and none has anything to do with refs.
06-21-2012, 07:53 AM
#2703
failhard.
I don't want Harden fucking playing tonight. He needs to be benched. I just know he's gonna prioritize getting foul calls over taking and making shots again.
Where's Eric Maynor when you need him? Or just give Daequan Cook his minutes.
Where's Eric Maynor when you need him? Or just give Daequan Cook his minutes.
Last edited by mystikk; 06-21-2012 at 07:56 AM.
06-21-2012, 11:30 AM
#2707
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
I'm picking the LeHeat to win the Superbowl too. 
06-21-2012, 11:54 AM
#2708
I'm Down Right Fierce!
So in about 12 hours, LeBron James and the Miami Heat will have won the 2012 NBA Championship.
However, the 2012 NBA Championship will forever have an asterisk next to it.
The asterisk shall read: "Lots of People were Mad".
However, the 2012 NBA Championship will forever have an asterisk next to it.
The asterisk shall read: "Lots of People were Mad".
06-21-2012, 12:10 PM
#2709
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (1)
Even though its a asterisk season. I think its more enjoyable just because of level of difficulty this season was. In the end, the conditioning these players did to allow themselves to last this whole season both the Heat and the Thunder.
06-21-2012, 12:22 PM
#2711
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
Like, going undefeated. Beating out all teams b 13241204712904237140 points...Sweeping all the series in 1.
But, instead, it will show the humane approach the LeHeat took to winning the Title. About letting the other team have a chance. Losing games so that other franchises can feel empowered...
That's the reason for the asterisk. No one's mad.
06-21-2012, 12:23 PM
#2712
Senior Moderator
Thread Starter
06-21-2012, 12:46 PM
#2713
Good job to the Heat. They have shown much more class this year, IMO. Lebron especially.
They still deserved the criticism of how things went down when they came together. But I think losing last year and then realizing that people didn't like their whole act was humbling, in a good way for them. They needed that feedback.
The nice thing is, unlike say, Kobe, Michael, or Larry Bird, where you get the sense that they always thought 'I'm gonna shut the haters up', Lebron and co. truly do not like being hated. As they've said, they gave up being villains last year. They want to play for themselves and each other now, which is a much better, more admirable approach.
Now, celebrate, but don't go acting like complete idiots when you win tonight (or next game). Relief, satisfaction, and elation as opposed to 'See, I told you so!'.
They still deserved the criticism of how things went down when they came together. But I think losing last year and then realizing that people didn't like their whole act was humbling, in a good way for them. They needed that feedback.
The nice thing is, unlike say, Kobe, Michael, or Larry Bird, where you get the sense that they always thought 'I'm gonna shut the haters up', Lebron and co. truly do not like being hated. As they've said, they gave up being villains last year. They want to play for themselves and each other now, which is a much better, more admirable approach.
Now, celebrate, but don't go acting like complete idiots when you win tonight (or next game). Relief, satisfaction, and elation as opposed to 'See, I told you so!'.
06-21-2012, 12:51 PM
#2714
Team Owner
I'm in Kendall so that's wayyyyy too far. Plus not a great part of town to be outside even though the rent is stupid high. I was contemplating La Carreta by Tropical Park but the game will end at midnight and with the trophy and MVP presentation I'd get there at like 1am. I'm going to the parade for sure. All of this of course assuming we win. I have a feeling Harden will bring it tonight.
06-21-2012, 12:53 PM
#2715
I'm Down Right Fierce!
^ Harden apparently suffered a bruised left hand from Game 4 so I don't know if he'll be the stud that he was pre-finals.
I actually have no idea how he injured it though...
I actually have no idea how he injured it though...
06-21-2012, 12:56 PM
#2716
^^would be ironic if it happened while bracing himself from falling during one of his flops. Just sayin...
06-21-2012, 01:45 PM
#2717
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (1)
I'm in Kendall so that's wayyyyy too far. Plus not a great part of town to be outside even though the rent is stupid high. I was contemplating La Carreta by Tropical Park but the game will end at midnight and with the trophy and MVP presentation I'd get there at like 1am. I'm going to the parade for sure. All of this of course assuming we win. I have a feeling Harden will bring it tonight.
mmmmm La Carreta, a palomia steak sounds really good right now. ok back on track. Go Heat.
06-21-2012, 06:28 PM
#2719
