Jonesi

I'm starting to like The Globe and Mail, seems to be an amazing publication coming out of Toronto.

This is a gem:
The Pens have failed Sid, hockey fans and the universe....


you have my permission to go around telling the world about this massive failure reported. I will not argue nor debate..

Jonesi

can't resist...... at least one.

dom

They don't mean that literally.

Did you miss the part about the NHL also being responsible? Or did you only see Pittsburgh Penguins and get butthurt again? Try not to take everytrhing so personally. You'll live longer.

They're 100% correct... In general terms. Of course they didn't do anything specific to cause the injury but everyone is basically standing around doing nothing about head shots. And this is what happened and will continue to happen.

Then again the Steckel hit wasn't a head shot. Looked entirely accidental to me.

But what happens to Sid after even one more concussion? This is the point the writer is trying to address.

dom

And why are you reading Toronto rags Jonsei? Is the 1x2 inch article on the Pens burried on the last page of the Pittsburgh papers again?

Moog-Type-S

So I met a guy at the game last night that does stats/time keeping for the NHL.
(He sits between the penalty boxes during the game).

Anyway we have a nice long conversation about the league, stats, rules, players, etc and so on....he had a unique perspective on the game to say the least....a great guy.

He gave me a copy of the game notes and media clips sheets.
Every stat you could every possibly think of for the Kings and Sharks.
It's like getting the comprehensive encyclopedia on each time. (+30 pages double-printed on each side) Amazing stuff.

Anyway, I thought I would share this "gem" from the media clips sheet.
The caption is gold.

97BlackAckCL

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Great caption, in the club that I sit in, they always put out game notes/media stat guides for people to pick up, you're right, there is so much freaking detail and stats in those things, it's unreal

Moog-Type-S

...and this is for dom:

They guy that worked for the league told me the biggest sh*t talker out of all the guys who get penalties and end up in the box....yelling at the guy in the other box.......is your boy.......Avery.

He said when he was with the Kings.....the mouth on that kid was
He also said Ian Laperrière was 2nd to Avery in that dept....however he said he has mellowed with age.

dom

SHOCKING!

So is this the guy you got all those Poni/Michell stats from?

Moog-Type-S

^^ Poni scored last night

97BlackAckCL

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Moog-Type-S

...another little tidbit from the NHL stat-guy....he stated the NHL is planning to open a west coast war room next year to deal with video replay so that the peeps in Toronto don't have to stay up past midnight for west games.


perhaps lack of sleep is why the peeps in Toronto suck at video replay?

dom

I seriously doubt that's going to happen. Makes waaayyyy too much sense.

BTW - According to Toronto media (so it can't possibly be true ) The deal lined up to sell the Coyote's to Holizer (sp?) is in serious trouble because the city can't come up with the required 100 mill.

Moog-Type-S

^^^ Good. Glendale, AZ should never be suckered to come up with that much $$$

dom

Correct me if I'm wrong. But Glendale is a relatively small city of about 250K? Should they really be putting all this money into a sports team? I know they're trying not to lose anymore money but they have to cut their losses at some point. I wonder what people from Glendale have to say.

In related news, Quebec city is getting a new building with even a hint of the possibility of another NHL team. The Feds have a 1 Billion dollar chest set aside specifically for athletics.

Sucks having a minority government at the ready to buy votes.

Moog-Type-S

^^ I believe you are correct, sir.

In a sane league, the yotes would move to the Eskimo north....but the league is nuts.

dom

Well, even the Count has made it very clear that if they can't get things settled in Phoenix, the team is moving to Winterpeg.

Moog-Type-S

^^ Bull! I'll believe it when I see it. The Count is a lying liar who lies.

Jonesi

I just like to give you a hard time I already told you I've listened to the Fan590 for many years along with reading TSN's site.

jupitersolo

Glendale, is just the municipality that will be footing the bill. The population of the surrounding cities bring it to about 3 million.

Jonesi

Fibonacci

Moogs, your pretty fly for a white guy, but will you please stop hating on the Count's brown fan base!

Please do a good job coaching your neighbors kids Dos Equis and Vuvuzuela so we can bring some spice to our beloved National Honkey League.

dom

Thats what I'm saying, Its nuts for a municipality that small to be dumping all that money into a sports team. Unless its a guaranteed money maker, which the Coyotes aren't.

Every reporter I've heard in that area says the team should have been located in Scottsdale I think. Where the Suns play.

dom

Jonsei, where do you find that shit?

I love the "I would still make the Kessel trade today" Hear that quite often from Burke.

Jonesi

Shero interview. I'm beginning to forgive him for the Hossa trade...
http://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/Pi...011/Ray-Shero/

jupitersolo

But is Scotsdale putting up money to get the job done?

dom

Not the point I'm trying to make. Should Glendale still be dumping money into what seems like a sinking ship? Can they afford it?

Scottsdale was only brought up because apparently if a team was to survive in Phoenix, it would have to be there.

And what's with Semin and the 1 year deals? Good for the team, but he's taking a chance.

jupitersolo

Glendale, Scotsdale, Phoenix, they all share a city boarder. Doesn't matter where the arena is placed, still going to get the same fan base. :shrug;

dom

From what I've heard from Jeremy Roenick who lives there. (Yes Jonsei, on The Fan. He sometimes co-hosts the morning show)

The arena is too far away for most of the population. They have to drive 30-45 minutes to get there. Its not a great location. Again, never been there just what I heard. Its already hard enough for people in Arizona to like hockey. Add in another obstacle and can we can see why the team when bankrupt.

jupitersolo

Scotsdale, is only about 250k as well, but is closer to Phoenix, which is about 2 million. If they aren't putting up the money and Glendale is

dom

I'm not suggesting Scottsdale should step up. Its way past that point now. Just that it would have been a better place to put the team from day 1. Hindsight I know.

Glendale is putting the money up because at this point they're up to their neck in losses and feel the only way out is to keep the team there and turn it around. Coyotes are that buildings only tenant.

97BlackAckCL

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That leafs flow chart is awesome

Shero is the man, I forgave him long ago for the Hossa trade, when Hossa left so we could sign the other half of our team

Yumcha

@ Leafs decision tree...

Yumcha

And BTW, that is not a flow chart. Flow charts, by definition in project and business analysis, are not decision trees.

Fibonacci

Sounds like a pretty normal commute for most US metros.

Pretty lame excuse, it really is dependent on how committed ownership is to putting competitive product on the ice. Yummy cakes commuted by dog sled for two days to see his Hawks last year. He probably didn't do that circa 2004 though when ownership was indifferent to the fan base.

Fibonacci

Forgot 2004 was the lockout year, gosh seems so loooooong ago.



<----- Team Lidstrom: Perfect Human

Yumcha

^

Actually, I did go in beyond frigid weather back in the early 2000s to watch a terrible Hawks team get pasted on ice...

Still remember the Bell, Arnason, Calder "1st line"...

Moog-Type-S

my head hurts.

Fibonacci

No comprende mi amigo?


Uno dos tres cuatro cinco cinco seis...

jupitersolo

good gawd, this "draft" is painful to watch.

dom

Kessel went last