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Here's all I found from what he said: http://87sidneycrosby.com/2010/03/si...hit-on-savard/
Does not seem that condemning, dude.
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Link to Crosby speaking about headshots?
From what I heard Toronto media is bored.. And now they're making up stories saying Crosby is going to miss All Star game in protest of head shots and all this BS totally making shit up.
Please tell me you have more than this http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...medium=twitter and listening to the radio since I know you don't watch hockey anymore
Only thing I've seen is this when he was asked what he thought about the hits.
“I didn’t like them. … When I look at those two hits, you talk about blindside, that’s a big word, unsuspecting player, there was no puck there on both of them. It was a direct hit to the head on both of them. If you go through the criteria, I think they fit all those,” the 23-year-old centre said. “I know it’s a fast game. I’ve been hit a thousand times. When you get hit like that, there’s nothing you can do. There’s no way to protect yourself.”
And what he's said previously specifically about Cookies hit on Savard.
"At some point there’s got to be a clear indication from the league because we’ve seen this so many times now.
"You don’t like to see anyone, their own teammate or an opposing player, lay on the ice like that. That was scary."
"You don’t like to see anyone, their own teammate or an opposing player, lay on the ice like that. That was scary."
Not sure who the Toronto Globe and Mail is or who David Shoalts or how he can come out with a statement and title of article as "Angry Crosby likely to skip all-star game" with no source etc is fucked up. Sounds like reckless reporting IMO.
Maybe should STFU before he speaks out or at the least maybe check his sources?
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Last edited by Jonesi; 01-19-2011 at 03:58 PM.
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That must have not made it out of Pittsburgh. And if he did say something he was nowhere near as vocal as he is now.
Not really signaling him out. Every player should speak up. But Crosby has to realize (and now maybe does) that his voice carries more weight than others.
If him, Ovi, Toews, Stamkos, Phaneuf (lol) and other big stars all spoke up. Maybe the NHL would get off their asses and do something about it.
Not really signaling him out. Every player should speak up. But Crosby has to realize (and now maybe does) that his voice carries more weight than others.
If him, Ovi, Toews, Stamkos, Phaneuf (lol) and other big stars all spoke up. Maybe the NHL would get off their asses and do something about it.
He has not been gunshy to talk about it. And no, the Mitchell hit on him last year was not an illegal hit. It was clean...Toews had his head down.
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Like I said,
@ check my sources. What other sources other than the media am I supposed to have? What sources do you use Jonsei? Your personal connection to Mario?
And the Globe & Mail is I believe Toronto 3rd largest paper by subscription yet I'd bet still bigger with more Hockey reporters than any paper in Pittsburgh.
And it still sounds like he's bitching. Point being, he should have spoken up sooner. He has to know his opinion carries weight.
Media around here is making a big deal
And the Globe & Mail is I believe Toronto 3rd largest paper by subscription yet I'd bet still bigger with more Hockey reporters than any paper in Pittsburgh.
And it still sounds like he's bitching. Point being, he should have spoken up sooner. He has to know his opinion carries weight.
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Media around here is making a big deal about Crosby speaking out against head shots now that he's concussed.
Then you say he never said a thing about Savard. wrong.
You're listening to too many talk shows.
Blowing things out of control. And that article is great except the title. Then the title sets off all this bullshit.. And these supposed sources..
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And just for the record....
http://twitter.com/#!/dshoalts
Since I'm sure it won't be added to the article.. And domn won't hear about it on his radio shows..
Please David can you say sources more and then later say it was your opinion not sources?
http://twitter.com/#!/dshoalts
Since I'm sure it won't be added to the article.. And domn won't hear about it on his radio shows..
Clarification on the fuss around Crosby: It was my opinion that he was angry enough to consider skipping the all-star game.
- David STFU Shoalts
- David STFU Shoalts
I feel the need...
Woah, getting hot in here. Let's bring back the man-love fellas. Pilgrimage to mecca, beers on me, 11th row. Yummy cakes is only invited if he renounces his wish for "hurt on the entire Red Wings organization".
Oh, and I disagree with Don Cherry. Yes, the game is fast - but lets simply eliminate all hits to the head.
Oh, and I disagree with Don Cherry. Yes, the game is fast - but lets simply eliminate all hits to the head.
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Yea, sorry dommy I heard it yesterday and looked into it. And thought to myself this must be some Toronto fake newspaper. Pissed me off . Then with the Crosby STFU tipped me off the scales..
Then Yummy and Jupiters jumping on the fake bs being spewed out...
Then Yummy and Jupiters jumping on the fake bs being spewed out...
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Woah, getting hot in here. Let's bring back the man-love fellas. Pilgrimage to mecca, beers on me, 11th row. Yummy cakes is only invited if he renounces his wish for "hurt on the entire Red Wings organization".
Oh, and I disagree with Don Cherry. Yes, the game is fast - but lets simply eliminate all hits to the head.
Oh, and I disagree with Don Cherry. Yes, the game is fast - but lets simply eliminate all hits to the head.
And I still hate your Wings.
But, dibs on free beer.
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It's true. I agree that Crosby should've spoken out more about this last year when a player was getting his head taken off pretty much every evening in some game...and ESPECIALLY when his own teammate sent Savard into orbit with a cheapshot.
Whatever...keep in mind that Crosby is the unofficial face of the NHL and for Hockey Canada...so, what he says or does not say is taken at more value than perhaps down there for you.
I feel the need...
Like, totally. Best sport on earth.
But it cracks me up when Cherry spouts off about how "guys were more respectful" in his era. Yeah, it was called don't play dirty or you'll get run HARD in return. Now, that self-enforced discipline doesn't happen because of the instigator rule.
Simple solution, nobody wants to see concussions end careers so lets be consistent, back side, front side - don't matter. BANNED.
Funny how you NEVER see the Wings play dirty. Discipline.
But it cracks me up when Cherry spouts off about how "guys were more respectful" in his era. Yeah, it was called don't play dirty or you'll get run HARD in return. Now, that self-enforced discipline doesn't happen because of the instigator rule.
Simple solution, nobody wants to see concussions end careers so lets be consistent, back side, front side - don't matter. BANNED.
Funny how you NEVER see the Wings play dirty. Discipline.
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^ That I do agree. The Wings are not a dirty team (but, they still am the suck)...actually, neither of our teams play dirty.
Proud to say that.
Proud to say that.
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Hawks among the least penalized in the League...
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Well, didn't jump on it...just agreed with D's sentiments.
It's true. I agree that Crosby should've spoken out more about this last year when a player was getting his head taken off pretty much every evening in some game...and ESPECIALLY when his own teammate sent Savard into orbit with a cheapshot.
Whatever...keep in mind that Crosby is the unofficial face of the NHL and for Hockey Canada...so, what he says or does not say is taken at more value than perhaps down there for you.
It's true. I agree that Crosby should've spoken out more about this last year when a player was getting his head taken off pretty much every evening in some game...and ESPECIALLY when his own teammate sent Savard into orbit with a cheapshot.
Whatever...keep in mind that Crosby is the unofficial face of the NHL and for Hockey Canada...so, what he says or does not say is taken at more value than perhaps down there for you.
I'm not arguing that. He is a quiet and shy guy. The only reason all of this is coming up now is from the article I posted from the Toronto Globe and Mail. Everything in the article seems legit and isn't a bad article but they guy had to put his spin on it claiming sources when it was his opinion. That's all I'm saying.... just don't drink the water If you had an issue with him answering a question
Last edited by Jonesi; 01-19-2011 at 05:57 PM.
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I'll admit I'm guilty of falling in to what was being said on the Radio. That's what my comments were based on and have been based off several times in the past. They usually discuss hot button topics, I figured this was no different and saw no reason to think the story was being exhaggerated.
And when I say he should STFU, I don't mean he shouldn't comment, like I said earlier, he should be saying more about it. Point was, I wish he had more of an opinion back on the Cooke hit or countless other head shots we've seen since. And its not just Crosby, everyone.
If he comes back goes out again and misses the season, or turns into another Lindros I'll bet we'll all be wishing more was said when there was a chance.
and I wouldn't say its BS that he'll miss the All Star game.
Slight chance...
And I'm used to to Pens fans getting butt hurt anytime something negative is said about their Pens or Steelers. They're a sensitive bunch.
And when I say he should STFU, I don't mean he shouldn't comment, like I said earlier, he should be saying more about it. Point was, I wish he had more of an opinion back on the Cooke hit or countless other head shots we've seen since. And its not just Crosby, everyone.
If he comes back goes out again and misses the season, or turns into another Lindros I'll bet we'll all be wishing more was said when there was a chance.
and I wouldn't say its BS that he'll miss the All Star game.
Crosby denied a printed report that he might skip the all-star game to protest the lack of punishment.
"That's not even close," Crosby said. "I'll be there if I can be there and I still haven't ruled out being there. Hopefully in the next few days, things get better. There's a slight chance I can still be back for that."
"That's not even close," Crosby said. "I'll be there if I can be there and I still haven't ruled out being there. Hopefully in the next few days, things get better. There's a slight chance I can still be back for that."
And I'm used to to Pens fans getting butt hurt anytime something negative is said about their Pens or Steelers. They're a sensitive bunch.
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I'll admit I'm guilty of falling in to what was being said on the Radio. That's what my comments were based on and have been based off several times in the past. They usually discuss hot button topics, I figured this was no different and saw no reason to think the story was being exhaggerated.
And when I say he should STFU, I don't mean he shouldn't comment, like I said earlier, he should be saying more about it. Point was, I wish he had more of an opinion back on the Cooke hit or countless other head shots we've seen since. And its not just Crosby, everyone.
If he comes back goes out again and misses the season, or turns into another Lindros I'll bet we'll all be wishing more was said when there was a chance.
and I wouldn't say its BS that he'll miss the All Star game.
Slight chance...
And I'm used to to Pens fans getting butt hurt anytime something negative is said about their Pens or Steelers. They're a sensitive bunch.
And when I say he should STFU, I don't mean he shouldn't comment, like I said earlier, he should be saying more about it. Point was, I wish he had more of an opinion back on the Cooke hit or countless other head shots we've seen since. And its not just Crosby, everyone.
If he comes back goes out again and misses the season, or turns into another Lindros I'll bet we'll all be wishing more was said when there was a chance.
and I wouldn't say its BS that he'll miss the All Star game.
Slight chance...
And I'm used to to Pens fans getting butt hurt anytime something negative is said about their Pens or Steelers. They're a sensitive bunch.
I know. I listen to the Fan 590 myself
I hear ya and agree I don't want Don Cherry being the voice of the players
There's a difference between Crosby being hurt and not making the All Star game and "in my opinion"Angry Crosby likely to skip all-star game"" that's all I'm saying. Don't forget when Crosby's knee was injured two years ago and couldn't play he still showed up for the festivities, autograph sessions and media bs stuff.
I don't get upset often.. say what you want that's cool with me. But I knew the media, the source, his tweet etc.. then you sucked tweedle dee and tweedle dumb in
And I'm used to to Torontonians that believe everything they read and hear on the internets and radio. They're a slow bunch.
You need some more flow rags this month?
Seriously. Now he cries? Hilarious.
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If figured your kotex sprung a leak when we got mad at something written on the internet.
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ah, you hurt my feelings, I miss typed something on the internet.
Get below washed up, I'll pp you $5.00 to do so.
Get below washed up, I'll pp you $5.00 to do so.
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Engrish second language?
In all seriousness, I'll be in DC area this weekend (Bethesda, MD) if you want to meet up, grab a beer and watch the Skins game.
Exhibit A. Does he give out free handjobs? Why do you guys go to bat for him like he's your mother? What's the big freakin secret?
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youre far far from it .. little ghey jokes are weak and lame. last time i'll comment on the matter
I'm one of the first people to criticize Crosby and probably the last person if ever to comment on strong play b/c I'm Way too superstitious.. Any of the guys here will agree with this.
What I hear everyday in Pgh for last 11 days is that the update on Crosby is there isn't an update. That he nor Byslma are talking on the matter and when he's better he's better. Crosby hasn't spoke to the media since Jan 8th, when he initially made those comments when asked about the hit and that's it. Then some writer in Toronto 11 days later writes a story claiming to be a "source" that Crosby isn't going to go to the All Star game because he's mad. When all of this was this writers "opinion." That article sparked all of Toronto and Canada to believe Crosby is talking about head shots and taking a stance etc..
It's totally Crazy to think Crosby hasn't spoke to the media or said a thing since the 8th and yet all this madness ensues.. Total fabrication... The only reason I saw the tweet was b/c I googled the guy and google suggestion put twitter after his name. Just seems crazy.
I'm one of the first people to criticize Crosby and probably the last person if ever to comment on strong play b/c I'm Way too superstitious.. Any of the guys here will agree with this.
What I hear everyday in Pgh for last 11 days is that the update on Crosby is there isn't an update. That he nor Byslma are talking on the matter and when he's better he's better. Crosby hasn't spoke to the media since Jan 8th, when he initially made those comments when asked about the hit and that's it. Then some writer in Toronto 11 days later writes a story claiming to be a "source" that Crosby isn't going to go to the All Star game because he's mad. When all of this was this writers "opinion." That article sparked all of Toronto and Canada to believe Crosby is talking about head shots and taking a stance etc..
It's totally Crazy to think Crosby hasn't spoke to the media or said a thing since the 8th and yet all this madness ensues.. Total fabrication... The only reason I saw the tweet was b/c I googled the guy and google suggestion put twitter after his name. Just seems crazy.
Last edited by Jonesi; 01-20-2011 at 08:40 AM.
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Now i'm curious, what's everyone's opinion on head-shots? Has it got that much worse? Seems like a typical year to me. Are head-shots that much of a concern and issue? Should they let the players play and let them police themselves?
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Perhaps people are just tired of him being attacked by the canadian media every single day. Like making up rumors that he's gonna skip the all star game in "protest" only to completely retract and say it was an opinion. We hear this shit every day, 24/7 coming from canada. Sometimes, it just gets old. Plus all we did was point out that the quotes and shit heard on the radio in toronto was bs, because they have a tendency to make shit up. Also, Dom assumed that crosby never said anything about headshots, and Jonesi and I pointed out that he has spoken before. Plus, like Jonesi pointed out, he answered questions about being hit, and hasn't said shit since, so I guess he did stfu about it and move on
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