you know this whole 5-systems per game thing.. I have a feeling that may change over the course of time... like when Sony starts to notice that, there seems to be about 1/5th the games downloaded compared to the number of players. Serious though, Sony needs all the money it can get, the whole battery recall fiasco really stabbed em pretty bad, something like $500m+ lost revenue. Not to mention the hit on their stock, combined with the PS3 delays, losing the digital audio player war, etc. etc. They need help. From us! lol

 

Uh ... camping out? Welcome to like 10 years ago. eBay baby!

J/K ... I'll be like you (and my 3 other friends) camping out at various stores across southeast Michigan trying to pick up a PS3.

 

Sony Corp., which slashed its profit forecast yesterday, said it may not reach this year's shipment target for the PlayStation 3 game console because of a parts shortage in the Blu-ray high-definition disc drive.

Sony plans to ship two million PlayStation 3 players this year to the U.S. and Japan, and six million worldwide by March. The Tokyo-based company said yesterday annual profit would fall 39 percent to its lowest in five years on price cuts of the console in Japan and a recall of 9.6 million computer batteries.

"The honest answer is it's more of a target'' for PlayStation 3 shipments, Jack Tretton, co-chairman of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said yesterday in an interview. "Clearly we've had production issues.''

A shortage of the PlayStation 3 would give Microsoft Corp. and Nintendo Co. a bigger head start in the $20 billion console market when they sell their players next month in time for the year's biggest sales season. Sony cut the price of the PS3 in Japan after consumers complained it was too expensive compared with Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Nintendo's Wii.

"It would be a big hill to climb with a console that costs twice as much,'' said John Broady, an analyst for GameSpot.com, a unit of Cnet Networks Entertainment that tracks video-game sales. "A lot of this is driven by mothers. When they look at their budget, I think the Wii is going to be very attractive.''

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...NoY&refer=home

 

24 Things you need to know about the PS3...

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/10...ings/index.php

 

knew there was a reason to buy PSP.

What's this all about?? first time I seen that mentioned, have I been living in a cave?? 200gb? I would guess that would be via multiple layers? Advantage BD!!

 

^ Not sure. I hadn't heard about it either... but sounds good!!

BTW, I too am excited about the PSP integration. Now it will be more then a poker machine for me!!

 

yes and I will be using it for more than just Lumines...

the extended capacity of BD is great news - you may or not remember but a long while ago when we were speculating about BD and its capability for 50gb, a good number of people doubted there would even be any use for such high capacity for a video game. Well I read an article recently that said developers are having no trouble at all filling up the BD discs. They cited HD content as the primary culprit. And, I believe it, HD content takes up gobs of space. So its nice to know they have even more to work with..

holy *@&*&#@.. this is from over 2 years ago!

http://pcworld.com/article/id,117867...1/article.html

its an 8-layer disc! TDK has already made one - don't really know how I missed this:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/28/t...dable-blu-ray/

maybe I just forgot about it... but maybe I never knew..

 

^ Me too... I will use it as a rear-view mirror for the racing games

BTW, I had read an article somewhere (can't remember where) that BluRay is kicking ass in Japan. Between the two formats 9 of the top 10 rentals are BluRay discs and 1 is HD-DVD.

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not surprising, you know how the Japanese feel about Xbox, right.

 

got this email today.

btw of course Sony is denying they had anything to do with this..

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20564

 

Yeah, they love Sony... so I wouldn't be surprised if BluRay takes the format wars b/c of the support of the whole island nation of Japan...

 

WOW...

It really sucks.

 

We'll see. It might just become another 'format that will never die' thing too, like half of their other things - Memory Stick, that PSP video format, minidisc, etc.

 

I've decided now that I'm going to wait until the hype goes down until I'll even get a chance to see a PS3 in person let alone getting a chance to buy one.

 

I heard a rumor that they would be pre-ordering this sunday, which promises to be a total bloodbath, considering they will also be taking pre-orders from the wii. Can you imagine the angry mob lined up in front of the door, ready to rush into the store and fight their way to the videogame counter? Craziness.....

 

^ whoops. forgot to mention who. Toys R Us

 

i went to toys to preorder today and they told me to come back with my $50 deposit at 6am on sunday.

 

Any one see the commercial during the World Series with the baby doll and the PS3??
Weird!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJaGScKpZuU

 

8 PS3 pre-orders per Toys R us store? have fun ppl

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/29/we...dition-part-1/

oh and, I thought Toys R Us went out of business many years ago....

 

yeah i stopped toys at around 630am, i couldn't even get near the front door.

 

I stumbled by the times square toys r us around 1am last night and there was a line of like 100 people. Some people had been there since yesterday morning. If they want one that bad, they can have it!

 

this game looks fun

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/%22def/...con-211075.php

graphics are a bit spotty, its an early build.

 

lol, I would hardly call this a launch. more like a trickle...

 

for those of you who are buying at launch, what games do you plan on buying?

I am going for NBA 2K7 and Tiger 07. I am up in the air on Madden and Fight Night since they have been out for a while on other consoles

 

OMG @ PS3 Power consumption: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/406.html

 

Yeah you def need to just come to terms with the fact that the practical launch date is going to be 2 months after it comes out can't wait to play it but I will wait a little and wont get trampled.

 

I think that the power consumption falls within reasonable expectations. I have a 400 watt psu in my computer and this is far more powerful. The thing is that all the energy is getting burned in that tiny box, I wonder how hot it will run.

 

well you're computer isn't running at full power consumption most of the time. I think it's safe to assum that if you are playing a game (except for the simple ones you download) you will be running it at full power or close.

As you mentioned that's a lot of heat in a small box, espcially with no external power box. If the 360 was having failures with half the power AND an external power supply, I can see the PS3's either being really loud to keep cool or burning out after a 8 hour gaming marathon.

 

That would explain some of the overheating issues.

 

 

If I get one at launch, or in the "launch window". I will probably get Resistance: Fall of Man and NBA 2k7. Also on my list are Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas and Call of Duty 3, although these probably won't be out at launch. I alos think Warhawk will be cool.

 

You mean the one isolated overheating issue caused by a sealed display which only happened one event that everyone over-reacted to?

 

Uses twice as much power as the Xbox in a case about the same size as the Xbox, and the Xbox has overheating issues with an external power sources, yea I am sure that overheating is an isolated issue, especially given Sony's recent quality issues.

 

From: http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/10...ings/index.php

This seems to be the norm as far as what I have been reading lately. Seems the only people concerned with the one isolated freezing incident is the media (who blows everything out of proportion anyway) and Microsoft and Nintendo Fanboys.

Oh and at people (not necessarily on here, just in general) making a big deal out of power consumption. Honestly, probably not even something I'd ever take into consideration. In fact, I'd expect a unit as powerful and that does as much as the PS3 does to take up more power then the PS2, just as I expected the 360 to use more power then the XBOX or a plasma TV to use more power then a DLP TV.

 

The PS3 has been on display at shows around the world since E3 2005. Please post the link to a news story where the PS3 had problems with freezing while on display outside of the recent TGS incident.

I've posted this on several boards along with many others and I have yet to see someone be able to link this info... so I'll try it here. If it's happening so much and is such a problem, then finding reports of it freezing all over the world should be easy to find. But so far, just an isolated incident at one show which was blown out of proportion is all I keep reading about.

 

Hey perhaps Sony has learned how to defy physics and their unit that uses twice as much power somehow doesn't overheat. I doubt it though, especially given their recent track record.

And the PS3 units have not been out for that long on display, but I would like for you to post a link that shows that someone was watching each individual unit for the entire time they were on. Otherwise it's like seeing a couple Range Rovers drive by and think to yourself that they must be reliable cars.

 

 

Surprise, surprise...


What's worse than 100,000 units at launch? How about 80,000? The Nikkei Keizai Shimbun morning edition reports today that due to component shortages, Sony will have only 80,000 units ready for the PS3's 11/11 Japanese launch. This cuts back by a fifth the initial launch target of 100,000.

The lack of digits in that number is even more staggering when you consider that the PS2 sold out of nearly a million units when it launched back in March of 2000.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/742/742510p1.html

 

at Range Rovers. That was a good one.

No such link exists. Even if someone did sit there and watch every box every second, not sure you'd be able to find the link, b/c that would be pathetic and hopefully if someone did it, they wouldn't admit to it on the public internet.

My point is that they have been on display for over a year, and there was only one report of freezing at the TGS show, and it has been contributed to the sealed display case which prevented proper cooling and airflow. If it was such a consistant problem, it would be occurring more frequently. And yes, the PS3 debuted at E3 in 2005 and has been displayed at several game shows and conventions around the world since then and were either running self contained demos or were playable.

As for Sony's ability to manipulate physics... plasmas use far more power then regular TVs yet they don't overheat. Some people have higher end gaming computers with large internal power supplies (400+ watts) and they don't overheat. So I don't see why the PS3 would if it is properly ventilated.

Don't get me wrong, I think the PS3 launch will be as well executed as the 360 launch was, but that's kind of expected with machines like this. I think whenever new technology is launched companies expect a certain percentage of problems. This would go across the board, from computers, to TVs, to cars, etc. How they handle it will be the key and is partially the reason why I'm waiting 6-8 months to get one, as I did with the 360. Get the kinks out, then I'll hop on one.

 

Yeah, I read that a few days ago. Surprised it took that long to get here. I'm thinking there's not a huge backlash b/c the numbers are only affecting Japan.

If the number of units gets slashed here, oh boy... the shit will hit the fan.