Black Tire

Only thing that'll save Honda/Acura if the started to bring back the Motorsport spirit. Since they have that big 3.5 V6. Why not make one with steriods and bring a performance version?

Styling, and value wise that are being left behind.

CarbonGray Earl

Yes, at least according to Jeff at TOV:

Something called g-shift design. Of course, please don't misconstrue this as me saying the CVT is gonna be great...I'll believe it when I see it.

melvin2816

iTrader: (4)

If they could make this Accord Concept look like the cars on video bellow...this could be very promising.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRCagQWsklg&feature=channel_video_title

mrstak

iTrader: (1)

pretty sure those coupes are all from my8thgen and i'm pretty sure the blue one is bpearl who also comes to this forum...he stanced the shit out of his car.

Colin

My sentiment exactly! My only wish is that they're 'no worse' than any current AT in feel. Since they are likely the future for small engines (at least with Honda/Acura), I would love to see a button that would 'lock' it to a stepped 7 speed mode so it would mimic a 'regular' AT. This way, the driver could choose to use it in 'appliance mode' or sacrifice a few MPG for an engine that revs through the RPM range.

pttl

Well put.

dom

Interesting post from member Neal at TOV

http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...age_id=1030662

It appears the coupes are the exact same car with revised sheet metal. Not a bad thing necessarily but some laziness on Honda's part for sure.

phile

LOL we've been saying it's the same car all along

Moog-Type-S

Fixed. To clarify the truth.

Nothing like buying a brand new car that is already 5 years old.

phile

^ i think Honda's banking on those chrome bits to impress buyers enough they won't see the obvious

ttribe

Then they need to add more chrome bits so they completely BLIND potential buyers.

03JamesCLS

Not feeling the new coupe.

Nice video and coupes... Did he really use the brush on the car at the car wash... amiright?

Moog-Type-S

Well, at least we can give credit to Honda for marketing vehicles to the disabled.

The blind are gonna think it's an all new Accord for 2013!!!!

dom

They looked similar yes but I figured it was at least on the new platform. Looks like its all carryover. They did specifically mention that the sedan would be smaller and lighter so I'm guessing it got the new platform and the coupe essentially carries over.

Moog-Type-S

What are the chances they "cheapened" the suspension design to save weight, cost and complexity?

MeehowsBRZ

My dad has an '08 coupe and it still looks as good as when it came out. Honda just fixed what it screwed up in the refresh and fixed the lights.

SSFTSX

well next Euro Accord will be lunched two years later than USDM Accord. This means that Euro will be smaller and lighter with Estate version.
I would not be surpized if next Euro Accord is designed without taking into consideration V6 engine just like Sonata/Optima.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/motorsh..._revealed.html

Honda has offered the clearest view yet of its all new Accord, due for launch in the UK in 2014.

Although this coupe concept is officially a US-only product, Auto Express has learned that the design will heavily influence the look of the next UK model, which will be available as a saloon and Tourer estate.

According to one insider, the key details that are expected to be carried over include the headlamp and grille arrangement, and the distinctive slashes that run the length of the car's flanks. The swooping roofline and slightly flared wheelarches are also expected to feature.

Few details about the car's engine range are available, but Honda has confirmed that the line-up will include the new 1.6-litre diesel, set to make its debut in the new CR-V later this year. The 1.6-litre four cylinder, like the CR-V will be built in the UK and offer 118bhp and around 200Nm of torque.

In the US, the new Accord will go on sale later this year, initially in saloon and coupe bodystyles. The car will offer a three strong engine range, including a new 2.4-litre four cylinder petrol unit, and an innovative new plug-in hybrid version that uses an as-yet undefined engine.

A Honda spokesman said that this plug-in hybrid is not yet confirmed for the UK, where all focus is on a plug-in version of the Honda Jazz. However, because both the US and UK versions of the Honda Accord will share some basic components, it remains an option for the firm.

Like rivals, the Accord plug-in hybrid will offer three driving modes: pure EV - with a range of around 12 miles - a petrol-electric hybrid mode, and a performance mode. The driver will be able to control which mode is deployed using buttons mounted on the dashboard.

Also new to the US Accord is a rear view reversing camera, and an innovative video blind spot display, which streams images from the car's blind spots directly into the cabin through small cameras mounted in the wing mirrors.

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/motorsh...#ixzz1jblPEAa0

SSFTSX

Hight price and relative low fuel economy with 6MT not many can afford Type S diesel.

http://www.offalyexpress.ie/lifestyl...iant_1_3431138

New Honda Accord Diesel is simply brilliant

Published on Wednesday 18 January 2012 13:08

IN an era where diesel engines are becoming ever more popular in the luxury segment Honda now have one of the best available.

Honda launched the new Accord range for Ireland last April, however the car I am testing this week, the Accord Type-S diesel is a new addition to that model line-up.

The current Honda Accord range consists of three versions, the ES, The Type-S and the Executive all powered by a 2.2 litre turbo diesel engine with power outputs varying from 150 PS to the higher power 180 PS Type-S diesel. Petrol engine options are available only by special order.

The Accord Type-S will appeal to those who want a more sporting element to their driving experience. Now I was always impressed by the Honda Accord, it is an excellent car, but this new Accord Type-S really left me asking myself why would you buy anything else in this class, it really is that good!

First Impressions

They say first impressions last, and I tend to agree in most cases at least. So when I first caught sight of the new Accord Type-S my first impression was of a rather stylish sleek purposeful looking car, with sporty overtones.

The Type-S benefits from lovely 18 inch alloys and a factory aero kit which adds aerodynamically refined front and rear bumpers to distinguish it from its stablemates.

Overall then the new Accord Type-S diesel is in my opinion one of the best looking saloons in its class.

Behind The wheel

Slip inside the cabin of the new Accord Type-S and one cannot fail to notice that this is indeed a quality car. The doors shut with a reassuring clunk. The materials used all feel and look very good. All the switches and buttons operate with a well engineered precision. Indeed there is an almost teutonic quality about the car. It seems to have lost that Japanese feel and that is a good thing. There is a very good driving position and even with the driver’s seat well back on its rails there is ample legroom in the rear.

Everything about the cabin feels just right. Standard equipment is very comprehensive and apart from the usual items we expect such as electric windows and so forth the new Accord Type-S boasts cruise control, auto lights and wipers, cornering lights, heated electric seats, advanced dual zone climate control which is linked to the standard satellite navigation system to detect the position of the sun and maintain cabin temperature accordingly, full leather trim, front and rear park assist, Bluetooth with voice recognition, a rear parking camera, electric boot release, an in-dash 6 CD changer, which by the way is linked to one of the best sound systems I have experienced in some time, USB/ipod Aux ports, Bi zenon headlights to name but a few. Safety equipment as you would expect is equally comprehensive, with a host of airbags, ABS, EBD, ESP and so on. This new Accord Type-S lacks for nothing really!

Performance

The new Accord Type-S diesel is powered by a 180 PS iDTEC turbo diesel engine which proved a most impressive power unit.

Mated to a lovely close ratio 6-speed manual gearbox the combination is just about perfect. Acceleration from a standstill is very good but even more impressive is the mid range torque which results in real “shove in the back” acceleration, perfect for overtaking safely and easily. For the record Honda claim a 0 to 100km/h time of 8.8 seconds and an impressive top speed of 220km/h.

With emissions of 147g/km the new Accord iDTEC falls into tax band C. Over my week behind the wheel it proved frugal too burning on average just 7.2 litres of diesel per 100km, giving this Accord a range of almost 700km between refuels.

Road Behaviour

Very few manufacturers manage to get that illusive combination between taut handling and smooth ride, usually one is good and the other suffers, but Honda have succeeded here where others have failed. Noise levels are commendably low and overall the car has very high levels of refinement.

I really enjoyed every kilometre behind the wheel. This car is a joy to drive, proving responsive, agile, nimble and surefooted under all conditions. The real hidden asset though is just how well it does everything with superb driver feedback. This Accord iDTEC is a true driver’s car yet manages to reward its passengers with equal aplomb.

Verdict

Entry to the new Accord range begins with the Accord ES iDTEC costing €31,465. The new Honda Accord iDTEC Type-S as tested here costs €40,220.

I test many new cars over the course of a year and to be fair there are only a handful that I would really desire, the Accord Type-S though is such a car. It is fabulous to drive, better equipped than its rivals, frugal, yet fast and can accommodate the needs of a family or business user with ease. In short it is one of the most complete cars around.

I highly recommend you test drive one, but beware you too may become hooked!

biker

^ that's all fine but it belongs in the TSX thread.

mikiTL

You're joking right? Your opinion and understanding of Honda technology is FAR behind. The automotive press/ Reuters is as well.
Honda is far beyond combustion engine technology. The remedial technology that DIRECT INJECTION is has simply prolonged the demise of the combustion engine with the false sense of security that better MPG and horsepower are realized at the cost of durability and longevity.

Honda's DI technology existed since 2003 Stream and has been perfected. Honda, unlike any other brand, has internal test requirements and durability standards of 10-15 years. Add 10years to 2003 and you get now. As with their new CVT, which will be a game changer. That's why Fords and Hyundais start falling apart at 3-5 years, where as Honda's drive solidly until 8-10 years.

Honda's future plans of all EV and nanotech research, as well as heat capturing hybrid systems are all well under R&D. Honda never had breakthrough designs save for a few model designs like the EG6, NSX, or S2000. Future technology and engineering is always the bread and butter of Honda.

charliemike

MTEAZY

I never cared for DI, power gains are minimal plus there is the huge issue of carbon buildup.. but I would like to see 2.0T in some of their smaller cars and dual clutch transmissions in the Acuras

legend74

The 3 series isn't a 911 either but they never change drastically. I don't hear a lot of people pissing and moaning about them.

AZuser

Can't speak for others, but I don't expect a completely new design with each new gen BMW 3 series (or 5 series or 7 series) because they've pretty much always done minor changes. History has shown this.

That's not the case with the Accord. Look back at their history. Each new gen has had a completely new design, thus my expectation (and I'd guess for many others too) was that the 9th gen would get a new design. Sadly, that was not the case.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

May be they are trying to change that now? Quite a few car manufacturers are gradually doing the same thing. Examples are the Altima, Mazda6, Corolla, Camry, Fit, Matrix, Civic, etc. And within the same manufacturer, the cars are quite similar looking (i.e. VW Passat & Jetta, Toyota Corolla & Camry, etc).

legend74

Nothing personal but just because it's what "you" expect doesn't make it wrong. The coupe in it's current form is a good looking car...why mess with it too much on the outside? The drive-train, tech and interior always needs upgraded. I just hope they put a little more thought into how the sedan looks compared to now.

ttribe

His point was that Honda created this expectation.

CoquiTSX

Just like the CVT in the Subaru.

phile

Moog-Type-S

@ Peeps trying to compare Honda's obvious accountant issued "evolution" design to a 911 or 3 series.

AZuser

It's not just that I expected something new. A lot of other people expected something new too.

If mild changes with each new gen is the new direction, then so be it. It just looks a bit stale compared to competition.

I'm kinda looking forward to new engines and transmissions though.

Moog-Type-S

^^ This is how the majority feel.

03bl AC k CL

Just to comment on the pictures of the concept: I have a feeling the coupe will lack any bit of aggressiveness those pictures contain. The Led around the fogs, the rear bumper, the front bumper for that matter will probably all lack that mesh.

I don't think it's bad looking, but I think it makes the decision easier for customers to just buy CPO instead of new.. not enough changes. Plus, I am not really feeling the sonata turbo wheels on the accord.

I just hope they improved the interior of the Accord. I was at first impressed with the current gen's interior, but my gf has an EX sedan with cloth. The seats are very uncomfortable, the radio is of extremely poor quality, and the dash layout is fit for herman munster. By no means is it a bad car, and I do like it, but leaving it unchanged would encourage me to look elsewhere when it's time to buy again.

Long story short, the accord did not age well. For that matter, neither did my altima. I am also extremely disappointed in that car. I sound like such a hater right now .

legend74

And what car in it's class makes the coupe look stale ? Certainly not a solara or altima.

AZuser

^ IMO... Kia Optima, new Ford Fusion, 2013 Chevy Malibu

vybzkartel

I coulda sworn Legend 74 said, 'coupe'

ttribe

Let me help you out on that one (see below, emphasis mine):
One could argue that "it's class" includes sedans or doesn't. That hasn't been clearly defined in the discussion, it seems.

AZuser

Not too many new/redesigned coupes coming out in the same price point as the Accord but the new Hyundai Genesis coupe and Scion FR-S/Subaru BR-Z come to mind. I'd also throw the 370Z in even though it's $2-3K more than the top of the line Accord coupe.

AZuser

No V6 6MT sedan like Honda said there would be... unless it's coming for the MMC

Wonder how the Sport and Touring models will differ from EX and EX-L trims

Ken1997TL

My guess:

Sport is an appearance/value package with a different name

Touring: Navi standard, upgraded sound system, more sound deadening.