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Honda: Accord News
#2841
Honda has to make Accord slightly upscale than Altima design wise because there is no Maxima class vehicle in Honda.
Honda designers just got their heads out of their collective arses and did a better job than the designers at Nissan and Toyota this time around.
It is not better than TSX. TSX small steering wheel and buttons are blended into dash on reasonable size center stack. so it is not overhelming but gives elegance. not over done.
The centerstack on the TSX looks too much like one of those cheap boom boxes w/ all those buttons and being all black.
Sonata sells will always be capped. New Sonata will not make difference. It is Honda and Nissan time to implement new engines and transmission.
Hyundai is wringing out every last efficiency from their Alabama plant, adding a full 3rd shift and they will sell every Sonata they make.
Plus, sales of the Sonata + Optima should continue to be near the top.
Hyundai/Kia has no chance of implementing some thing new. At best copy some tech from Germans. where is 8speed transmission from Koreans in 4 cylinder cars?. Honda and Nissan are going to implement CVT in 4 cylinder.
And many people (the ones who care more about driving enjoyment) simply hate CVTs, so having a CVT really isn't an advantage except for fuel economy (a hit many people would gladly take).
#2842
Senior Moderator
That Hyundai dash layout does nothing for me and honestly, I see the Sonata as a car that draws people who used to by the Grand Am and then later the G6. (Which is fine but, it won't make us Accord owners regret our Accord purchase.)
Anyway, I like the new Accord's dash more than that of my 12 Accord. IMHO, it definitely has a more upscale look and thankfully no button overkill. At the end of the day, Honda usually gets the Accord 'right enough" to be a great seller and the 9G will be no different.
Anyway, I like the new Accord's dash more than that of my 12 Accord. IMHO, it definitely has a more upscale look and thankfully no button overkill. At the end of the day, Honda usually gets the Accord 'right enough" to be a great seller and the 9G will be no different.
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#2843
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Honda designers just got their heads out of their collective arses and did a better job than the designers at Nissan and Toyota this time around.
It looks better than the dash/centerstack in the TSX.
The centerstack on the TSX looks too much like one of those cheap boom boxes w/ all those buttons and being all black.
Again, it's capped due to capacity reasons.
Hyundai is wringing out every last efficiency from their Alabama plant, adding a full 3rd shift and they will sell every Sonata they make.
Plus, sales of the Sonata + Optima should continue to be near the top.
Hyundai is wringing out every last efficiency from their Alabama plant, adding a full 3rd shift and they will sell every Sonata they make.
Plus, sales of the Sonata + Optima should continue to be near the top.
Who needs an 8 spd for a mainstream sedan at this point.
And many people (the ones who care more about driving enjoyment) simply hate CVTs, so having a CVT really isn't an advantage except for fuel economy (a hit many people would gladly take).[/QUOTE]
#2845
Senior Moderator
That would infringe on Acura. And we all know how Acura has to be protected. ![Roll Eyes](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Maybe they're hoping someone figures it would be ok to spend the same money on a ILX vs an Accord because the ILX has Push button start.
And for the love of god can we all agree to just ignore it?
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Maybe they're hoping someone figures it would be ok to spend the same money on a ILX vs an Accord because the ILX has Push button start.
And for the love of god can we all agree to just ignore it?
#2846
The sizzle in the Steak
I'll give Honda props for finally creating a more elegant simplified center stack.
They are finally backing away from the "more buttons is better" stylings of the past.
It looks like they took styling cues from Lexus, who took theirs from BMW.
No push-button start? SHOCKER!
They are finally backing away from the "more buttons is better" stylings of the past.
It looks like they took styling cues from Lexus, who took theirs from BMW.
No push-button start? SHOCKER!
#2847
Senior Moderator
Is this faster and more "aerodynamic" than an M5, E63 AMG, or S6...?
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#2849
My first Avatar....
#2850
Senior Moderator
#2851
Senior Moderator
#2852
Wired.com : Honda Showing Sync Competitor this Summer
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/06/hondalink-summer/
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Honda has been playing it safe in the infotainment game, as competition from Ford and General Motors push ahead with ambitious systems that leverage drivers’ devices and the cloud. But next month the Japanese automaker plans to reveal its next-generation infotainment solution, HondaLink, before it becomes available on the 2013 Accord this fall.
A cursory glance at Honda’s current navigation and infotainment offerings leaves a lot to be desired. Most of the functionality is still stuck in the mid-2000s, primarily comprising basic navigation functionality and a complete lack of streaming audio solutions, outside of satellite and terrestrial radio.
That’s about to change with the introduction of the revamped HondaLink system, which debuts first on the Fit EV, an electrified version of the brand’s popular sub-compact hatchback.
Honda is in the midst of moving many of its connected services away from satellite data, although Honda representatives speaking with Wired haven’t determined if the automaker will move toward a built-in, always-connected modem in its vehicles or rely on drivers’ smartphones to provide data services.
At CES this January, Honda announced a partnership with Aha Radio to begin providing streaming audio services in its 2013 models, and the first vehicle to benefit from that tie-up will be the all-new Accord.
The Aha Radio app – available for both iOS and Android devices – allows drivers to access thousands of streaming audio feeds, including podcasts, NPR, Rhapsody and MOG integration, through the vehicle’s head-unit.
Honda’s infotainment initiative won’t be fully disclosed until the middle of July, and that gives the automaker time to get its data situation sorted and possibly bring other content partners on board. Additionally, we could hear about Honda’s push to bring Apple’s Siri Eyes Free into its wares, but like the rest of the automaker announcements surrounding Apple’s partners, we’re not holding our breath.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/06/hondalink-summer/
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Honda has been playing it safe in the infotainment game, as competition from Ford and General Motors push ahead with ambitious systems that leverage drivers’ devices and the cloud. But next month the Japanese automaker plans to reveal its next-generation infotainment solution, HondaLink, before it becomes available on the 2013 Accord this fall.
A cursory glance at Honda’s current navigation and infotainment offerings leaves a lot to be desired. Most of the functionality is still stuck in the mid-2000s, primarily comprising basic navigation functionality and a complete lack of streaming audio solutions, outside of satellite and terrestrial radio.
That’s about to change with the introduction of the revamped HondaLink system, which debuts first on the Fit EV, an electrified version of the brand’s popular sub-compact hatchback.
Honda is in the midst of moving many of its connected services away from satellite data, although Honda representatives speaking with Wired haven’t determined if the automaker will move toward a built-in, always-connected modem in its vehicles or rely on drivers’ smartphones to provide data services.
At CES this January, Honda announced a partnership with Aha Radio to begin providing streaming audio services in its 2013 models, and the first vehicle to benefit from that tie-up will be the all-new Accord.
The Aha Radio app – available for both iOS and Android devices – allows drivers to access thousands of streaming audio feeds, including podcasts, NPR, Rhapsody and MOG integration, through the vehicle’s head-unit.
Honda’s infotainment initiative won’t be fully disclosed until the middle of July, and that gives the automaker time to get its data situation sorted and possibly bring other content partners on board. Additionally, we could hear about Honda’s push to bring Apple’s Siri Eyes Free into its wares, but like the rest of the automaker announcements surrounding Apple’s partners, we’re not holding our breath.
#2853
Accord Always had more upscale interior design than Altima/Camry.
Only new Altima went bit higher on upper trim models.Honda always do better job with interiors as they have no intention of making cars for rental fleets.
You need to check your eyesight and discering image abilities.
#2854
Hmmm - didn't stop Honda from making the Civic's dash being universally derided by the auto press.
Oh, yeah, I'm the one who needs to... lol
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#2855
LED taillights!
http://www.insideline.com/honda/acco...ss_711121.html
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#2856
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Date: July 15, 2012 16:48
Submitted by: Jeff
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The following information regarding the 2013 Accord trim levels was reportedly sent to dealers on Friday.Submitted by: Jeff
Source: Anonymous
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This is the 1st month to order the 13M Accord sedan.
We are pleased to introduce the all new Accord sedan. For 13M the following trims will be available with these standard features.
13M Accord L4 Sedan Features
LX includes:
• Rearview camera
• 8 in. i-MID TFT screen
• Pandora
• SMS text messaging capability
• 16 in alloy wheels
• Body color door mirrors
• Chrome door handles
• Bluetooth HandsFreeLink
• USB
• Dual Zone Auto AC
• Auto on/off headlights
• Security Alarm
NEW Sport adds:
• 18 in Alloy Wheels
• 8-way power seat
• Fog Lights
• Dual Exhaust
• Decklid Spoiler
• Paddle Shifters
EX adds or replaces on Sport:
• Honda LaneWatch (Blind Spot display)
• Side mirrors with turn signal indicators
• 17 in Alloy Wheels
• Power Moonroof
EX-L adds or replaces features on EX:
• Leather trimmed seats
• Audio with touch screen
• Multi-angle rearview camera
• Forward Collision Warning
• Lane Departure Warning
• XM Radio
• Heated front seats
• Leather steering wheel
• Navigation option
13M Accord V6 Sedan Features
EX-L adds to L4 EX-L:
• LED Daytime Running Lights
• Homelink
• Dual Exhaust
NEW Touring:
• Includes all of the aforementioned EX-L features and some additional luxury car features
We are pleased to introduce the all new Accord sedan. For 13M the following trims will be available with these standard features.
13M Accord L4 Sedan Features
LX includes:
• Rearview camera
• 8 in. i-MID TFT screen
• Pandora
• SMS text messaging capability
• 16 in alloy wheels
• Body color door mirrors
• Chrome door handles
• Bluetooth HandsFreeLink
• USB
• Dual Zone Auto AC
• Auto on/off headlights
• Security Alarm
NEW Sport adds:
• 18 in Alloy Wheels
• 8-way power seat
• Fog Lights
• Dual Exhaust
• Decklid Spoiler
• Paddle Shifters
EX adds or replaces on Sport:
• Honda LaneWatch (Blind Spot display)
• Side mirrors with turn signal indicators
• 17 in Alloy Wheels
• Power Moonroof
EX-L adds or replaces features on EX:
• Leather trimmed seats
• Audio with touch screen
• Multi-angle rearview camera
• Forward Collision Warning
• Lane Departure Warning
• XM Radio
• Heated front seats
• Leather steering wheel
• Navigation option
13M Accord V6 Sedan Features
EX-L adds to L4 EX-L:
• LED Daytime Running Lights
• Homelink
• Dual Exhaust
NEW Touring:
• Includes all of the aforementioned EX-L features and some additional luxury car features
#2857
Senior Moderator
Very nicely equipped. Only thing that would be nice is the push button start but not a deal breaker by any means. Honda definitley upping their game in the tech and standard features department.
#2858
Maybe that's taken care of in the "Touring" model? No telling what else this will tack on :
Includes all of the aforementioned EX-L features and some additional luxury car features
#2859
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All that tech and you have to get the V6 for something as menial as home link?
I mean Im glad to see what they are doing with standard features in the LX...but I don't know. We'll see I guess.
I mean Im glad to see what they are doing with standard features in the LX...but I don't know. We'll see I guess.
#2860
אני עומד עם ישראל
Wow the LX seems to have a lot of goodies.
#2862
The sizzle in the Steak
LX is finally no longer the honda accounting department's dream car.
It looks like the Koreans have really pushed Honda to start to compete again.
The only bad things are no push button start, and the stupid option packaging that makes one have to purchase a near/top of the line model just to get heated seats, or homelink
It looks like the Koreans have really pushed Honda to start to compete again.
The only bad things are no push button start, and the stupid option packaging that makes one have to purchase a near/top of the line model just to get heated seats, or homelink
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#2864
what do you understand about current civic. it will outlast all its competition interms of long life reliability.
Auto press is wrong about Civic. Civic is universal success.
Add to that, the Civic having a lower ATP than the Elantra.
In contrast, Honda did the new CR-V right, hence no incentives on a new model (funny how that works).
There is big difference in man machine interface design of TSX and Accord not to mention excecution. have you driven the MDX?. there is some thing to learn by driving that and compare it to TSX.
As for interface, we won't know until the new Accord launches, and considering that it will be the newer than the TSX, it should have the more up to date system.
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#2865
Buick only sell with extensive gadgetry, turbo, DI and 6speed auto on Germanic platforms. that Opel is already bust.
Honda Civic does not have push button start, rear view camera, side mirror indicators, 6peed auto. Even the navigation screen is smaller in size. and after all that mpg nonensene. Hyundai can be bought for alot cheaper.
CRV is alot change than Civic. Civic is more MMC than all new car.
do you think the leather will and platics will be as good as Japanese. Update systems does not make it more reliable and better design/quality. TSX is the best design interior of any Acura/Honda. Every thing is logically located, simplistic and not overhelming.
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I guess they are also wrong about Honda having to use incentives to push sales of the 'new' Civic and about the powers that be at Honda realizing that they made a mistake cheapening the Civic and ordering a revised Civic poste haste.
Add to that, the Civic having a lower ATP than the Elantra.
Add to that, the Civic having a lower ATP than the Elantra.
In contrast, Honda did the new CR-V right, hence no incentives on a new model (funny how that works).
I'm just talking about the design/looks of the dash.
As for interface, we won't know until the new Accord launches, and considering that it will be the newer than the TSX, it should have the more up to date system.
As for interface, we won't know until the new Accord launches, and considering that it will be the newer than the TSX, it should have the more up to date system.
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#2866
HondaLink™ is a cloud-based system that connects you to your favorite digital content without hassling with your mobile phone. Access Aha™ by Harman, Pandora® internet radio, SMS text message function and more via the audio system interface and voice recognition.
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#2867
The sizzle in the Steak
meh.
#2868
AZ Community Team
HondaLink looks pretty impressive, this is the new auto front for tech integration is the data/media coms. Don't integrate any data links into the vehicle but integrate the bluetooth link for the user's mobile data services for their smartphone.
I've seen commercials for the Toyota systems, wonder what GM has in store? I'm guessing the Ford will continue with the Microsoft solution?
Heck there's not even a 3.5mm stereo jack input on my 3G TL
I've seen commercials for the Toyota systems, wonder what GM has in store? I'm guessing the Ford will continue with the Microsoft solution?
Heck there's not even a 3.5mm stereo jack input on my 3G TL
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#2869
Suddenly my 2007 CR-V, without bluebooth of any sort, feels very antiquated. it's only been 5 years!
#2870
Think how some new Acura owners must feel when some 2013 Honda Accord models come with collision avoidance and blind spot monitoring systems, and new infotainment systems but the 2013 ILX and RDX don't even have them as options. WTH? lol.
#2871
Race Director
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...accord-sedan/1
Honda is revealing the look of the next Accord, a sleeker, more-fuel-efficient sedan that faces tough rivals.
At least Honda has great timing: The current Accord has re-established itself as a best seller after a difficult year in which supplies were interrupted by Japan's tsunami. Last month, Accord was second only to Toyota's Camry as America's best-selling car, and it was the fourth-best-selling vehicle of any kind.
Honda says the new look for 2013 is more sculpted. "It doesn't scream and shout, but it's sophisticated and refined," says Vicki Poponi, an assistant vice president.
The new Accord is 3 inches shorter than the one it replaces but retains about the same interior size. The trunk is a cubic-foot larger. Honda engineers have an "obsession with getting the most interior (space)," she says.
When it goes on sale this fall, the ninth generation of Accord will compete in the big but ever-tougher midsize-car market, where automakers are placing huge bets. New products have poured into the segment. Besides the just year-old redone Camry and Volkswagen Passat and 2-year-old Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima, redone 2013 models newly on sale or soon to be include Chevrolet Malibu, Nissan Altima and Ford Fusion.
"This is going to be a real battleground," says George Peterson, president of AutoPacific. "It's going to take an Accord to bring back the same level of excellence, high value and quality (Honda) has had in the past."
Honda says it's going to stay ahead of the competition by giving the new Accord more upscale touches and new technology:
It will get LED headlights, taillights and running lights, a feature typically found in luxury cars. The four-cylinder base engine will be paired with a more gas-efficient continuously variable transmission, or CVT, rather than a conventional automatic transmission. The new transmission is "not rubber-bandy" feeling, a reputation of many CVTs, Poponi asserts. Unlike many others, Accord still will offer a V-6, too.
Although Honda didn't reveal the expected fuel-economy figures — or the price — the new Accord is designed for extra-low wind drag, with flush-mounted window glass and wipers and a smoother underbody.
Peterson says Honda doesn't need to be the segment leader to win customers when it comes to fuel economy, but it will have to post in the high-30-miles-per-gallon range in highway driving.
At least Honda has great timing: The current Accord has re-established itself as a best seller after a difficult year in which supplies were interrupted by Japan's tsunami. Last month, Accord was second only to Toyota's Camry as America's best-selling car, and it was the fourth-best-selling vehicle of any kind.
Honda says the new look for 2013 is more sculpted. "It doesn't scream and shout, but it's sophisticated and refined," says Vicki Poponi, an assistant vice president.
The new Accord is 3 inches shorter than the one it replaces but retains about the same interior size. The trunk is a cubic-foot larger. Honda engineers have an "obsession with getting the most interior (space)," she says.
When it goes on sale this fall, the ninth generation of Accord will compete in the big but ever-tougher midsize-car market, where automakers are placing huge bets. New products have poured into the segment. Besides the just year-old redone Camry and Volkswagen Passat and 2-year-old Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima, redone 2013 models newly on sale or soon to be include Chevrolet Malibu, Nissan Altima and Ford Fusion.
"This is going to be a real battleground," says George Peterson, president of AutoPacific. "It's going to take an Accord to bring back the same level of excellence, high value and quality (Honda) has had in the past."
Honda says it's going to stay ahead of the competition by giving the new Accord more upscale touches and new technology:
It will get LED headlights, taillights and running lights, a feature typically found in luxury cars. The four-cylinder base engine will be paired with a more gas-efficient continuously variable transmission, or CVT, rather than a conventional automatic transmission. The new transmission is "not rubber-bandy" feeling, a reputation of many CVTs, Poponi asserts. Unlike many others, Accord still will offer a V-6, too.
Although Honda didn't reveal the expected fuel-economy figures — or the price — the new Accord is designed for extra-low wind drag, with flush-mounted window glass and wipers and a smoother underbody.
Peterson says Honda doesn't need to be the segment leader to win customers when it comes to fuel economy, but it will have to post in the high-30-miles-per-gallon range in highway driving.
#2874
Safety Car
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The redesigned 2013 Honda Accord will go on sale this fall with a shorter length, a new engine family and a continuously variable transmission -- huge engineering changes for a signature car that has slipped against mid-sized rivals.
Honda released the 1st images of the production version of the Accord sedan and coupe today but provided few additional details about the cars.
The 2013 sedan -- weighing less than the outgoing model, but with more passenger and cargo room -- features nearly flush windshield glass, flush-mounted windshield wipers and available LED daytime running lights, headlights and taillights.
Honda -- clearly aiming for U.S. buyers attracted to the current Hyundai Sonata, Kia Optima, Toyota Camry and 2013 Ford Fusion -- calls it the "most sculpted and dynamic Accord ever."
The side flanking and rear-window kink at the C-pillar resemble the styling of BMW's 3 series. But the front and rear fascias clearly signal a Honda product.
In addition to sportier styling, the 2013 Accord is being used to introduce several key pieces of Honda technology.
The 1st generation of the automaker's "Earth Dreams" engines -- offering improved fuel economy and lower emissions -- debut featuring direct injection and double overhead cams.
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A hallmark of the Accord since its 1976 U.S. debut as a hatchback -- leading fuel economy -- is under attack by rivals such as the Sonata and Camry.
The base engine will be a 2.4-liter inline-4 with more than 181 hp and 177 pound-feet of torque, Honda said in January. That would mean a slight horsepower increase but considerably more torque, with at least 10% better fuel economy, Honda engineers have said.
All 4-cylinder versions of the Accord equipped with an automatic transmission -- a huge percentage of the model's sales mix -- will be equipped with a continuously variable transmission. The decision could prove to be a gamble because CVTs have not been widely accepted by American buyers and have been plagued with reliability issues in some vehicles.
Revamped V-6
Honda has also re-engineered the Accord's 3.5-liter V-6 engine and paired it with a new 6-speed automatic transmission or an available 6-speed manual gearbox .
Honda has said the V-6 will produce more horsepower than the current model while targeting class-leading fuel economy and an overall gain in fuel efficiency over the 2012 model.
The 2013 Accord will also be offered with a 2 -motor plug-in hybrid system that features three modes – all-electric, gasoline-electric and direct-drive.
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But perhaps the biggest question looming over Honda -- in an era of cost-cutting necessitated by the strong Japanese yen -- is what the latest Accord looks like inside. A repeat of the current Civic's overly plastic interior will not work well with U.S. customers.
Honda did not release images of the 2013 Accord's interior today, but Honda sources say the cabin is an upgrade from the current generation.
While the coupe will remain similarly sized, Honda says the sedan will feature a more compact exterior footprint. Both models will feature "increased passenger and cargo space," Honda said today in a statement.
The automaker said previously the 2013 Accord would be offered with lane departure warning, forward collision warning technology, blind spot detection, and a standard rearview back-up camera.
In January, John Mendel, head of sales for American Honda, vowed the 9th-generation Accord would "raise the bar again through a tour de force of new Honda powertrain and safety technologies, geared to ensure that Honda and the Accord continue to lead in fuel economy, safety and fun-to-drive performance."
Shrinking share
Sales of the Accord -- America's top-selling car in 1989-91 and again in 2001 -- have rebounded 28% this year through July to 183,817.
That is just ahead of the Nissan Altima, with sales of 183,703, but behind the top-selling Toyota Camry, with year-to-date sales of 243,816 units.
Last year, Accord was passed by the surging Altima in U.S. sales volume, partly because of inventory shortages stemming from the March 2011 earthquake in Japan.
The Accord's share of the mid-sized segment has slipped markedly over the past several years, from 17% in 2007 to 11% this year, according to data from R.L. Polk.
However, those numbers include fleet sales. If only retail sales are counted, the Accord's segment share has slipped from 21% to 14%, but it still holds a solid 2nd place, according to Polk.
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Both the Accord and the segment-leading Camry have ceded a few points of share apiece to the Sonata, Fusion and Chevy Malibu, which analysts say is a sign of growing parity in the segment.
The Altima's share of retail sales has actually slipped over the same period -- indicating big fleet sales for the Altima as Nissan sold down the old model before its redesign this summer.
George Peterson, president of the AutoPacific consultancy in Tustin, Calif., said Honda has more to worry about from the 2013 Altima than it does from the Camry that was redesigned last fall.
"With the weight Nissan has put behind Altima, can Honda keep Accord close to Camry?" Peterson asked. "The base Altima comes across as a credible car. There's a lot of stuff in that car."
Honda has said the 2013 Accord will offer more standard equipment compared to the current model, such as Bluetooth hands-free phone interface, a full-color intelligent multi-information display and SMS text messaging that reads received texts from compatible mobile devices aloud over the audio system.
Perhaps more worrying to Honda is that Accord residual values have slipped from 52% to 49% since 2007, according to Automotive Lease Guide.
Meanwhile, the overall residual values in the mid-sized segment have increased. As a result, the Accord's price premium over the segment average has slipped from 7 percentage points to 2 .
Honda also will have to get its dealers off the incentive juice. As part of its sell-down strategy, Honda spent $3,900 per unit in APR and lease incentives on the Accord in July, and $4,500 in April, according to TrueCar data.
Rival Toyota spent $2,180 apiece for APR and lease deals on the Camry in July.
You can reach Mark Rechtin at mrechtin@crain.com. -- Follow Mark on Twitter
#2876
That would infringe on Acura. And we all know how Acura has to be protected.
Maybe they're hoping someone figures it would be ok to spend the same money on a ILX vs an Accord because the ILX has Push button start.
Maybe they're hoping someone figures it would be ok to spend the same money on a ILX vs an Accord because the ILX has Push button start.
#2877
Safety Car
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After months of catching 2013 Honda Accord prototypes, the redesigned midsizer has finally been revealed. The 1st official 2013 Accord photos show more sophisticated styling that should work in the midsize Honda’s favor when the car rolls into showrooms this fall.
2013 Honda Accord Officially Uncovered! 2013 Accord Photo Gallery Inside imageJudging from the photos, the 2013 Honda Accord sedan appears to have evolved into a slightly more refined piece of machinery. The resculpted hood and revised lower front fascia give the sedan a more muscular look, while the previous model’s bulbous rear end has been smoothed out. Pictured is a new 2013 Honda Accord sedan in Touring trim, a top-of-the-line model we’ve seen on the Odyssey. A car like the 2013 Honda Accord Touring – with the available LED daytime running lights – could compete with higher-price offerings like the 2013 Ford Fusion Titanium and 2013 Kia Optima SX Limited.
The 2013 Honda Accord will be powered by a 2.4-liter inline-4 with at least 181 hp, mated to a continuously variable transmission or 6-speed manual. An optional 3.5-liter V-6 will produce at least 271 hp, and can be coupled to a 6-speed automatic or 6-speed manual transmission (the latter, likely only on the 2013 Accord coupe). As for the plug-in hybrid, that Accord will use a 2.0-liter i-VTEC Atkinson-cycle 4-cylinder engine with an electric CVT and have an all-electric mode that could have a 10-15 mile range.
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As we’ve previously reported, the 2013 Accord will feature the automaker’s latest cloud-based infotainment system called HondaLink. The new setup brings a variety of apps such as Yelp and Slacker Radio, as well as audio books, and podcasts to the cockpit through the use of steering-wheel-mounted controls, in-dash controls, and voice commands. Even on the go, Accord drivers stay in the loop thanks to Facebook and Twitter feeds that can be read aloud.
Stay tuned for full details on the 2013 Honda Accord sedan and coupe as its launch date approaches.
#2878
אני עומד עם ישראל
Sedan looks better than the coupe for the first time I can recall? Not liking the rear on the coupe at all.
#2879
The sizzle in the Steak
I see the tech-features & available options of the Accord are still being produced by the bean counters in the accounting department.
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#2880
Suzuka Master
I like it. They fixed the rear of the coupe! Looks better IMO than the current gen and better than this models sedan
The sedan looks much better. Its conservative, but still nice looking. Kinda how all the germans are. Looks better than the sonata and camry. Not the optima, that still wins in looks. And it looks better than the passat.