View Poll Results: What do you like Better?
Accord Concept Rims and Bodykit
54
73.97%
2004 Acura TL A-Spec Bodykit and Rims
19
26.03%
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#2441
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^ I have yet to see 1 on our roads. Dealer has had a few sitting on the lot for quit e while now.
#2442
Senior Moderator
I've been seeing them on the road quite a bit now. To be honest, it has grown on me. The front is still a bit odd, but overall I don't mind it. Looks best in black IMO.
The first one I saw came up behind me on the highway and I laughed because it looked like the Godzilla of Accords, but the more I see it, the more I get used to it.
One of my biggest issues with it is the size. It honestly does not look that big, but the specs say it's 196" long! That's longer than an MDX. I really don't know if it would even fit in my garage. And I don't know if I could handle or like driving something that large.
The first one I saw came up behind me on the highway and I laughed because it looked like the Godzilla of Accords, but the more I see it, the more I get used to it.
One of my biggest issues with it is the size. It honestly does not look that big, but the specs say it's 196" long! That's longer than an MDX. I really don't know if it would even fit in my garage. And I don't know if I could handle or like driving something that large.
#2443
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Honestly no offense meant, but any of you people who think the Crosstour looks even remotely good, ok or acceptable should give your heads a shake.
Looks are not subjective in the case of the Crosstour. Its an automotive styling abomination.
Looks are not subjective in the case of the Crosstour. Its an automotive styling abomination.
#2444
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I'd still like to see it in black slammed on a set of 22's...
(i know 22's sound big.. but they're roughly the same aspect/size ratio as 20's on the coupe which look amazing)
(i know 22's sound big.. but they're roughly the same aspect/size ratio as 20's on the coupe which look amazing)
#2445
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To each his own, looks are definitely subjective. There are worse vehicles out there, IMO. Namely, Toyota Venza (wtf is up with that face???), Lincoln MKwhatever SUV that just came out, Kia Soul, Nissan Cube, and I think the Element is also worse.
Having choices is a good thing.
Having choices is a good thing.
#2446
The sizzle in the Steak
It's the return of the Aztek. How anyone can justify the way it looks is beyond me.
#2448
i don't see the point in buying something like the Crosstour and then slamming it. cause that just looks normal to me
#2451
I dont think the crosstour is all that bad. Heck im sure it would be very usefull for a family. Not everyone can swing an Acura so the Honda is the next best for them pricewise.
Honda/Acura have been pushing the envelope for years now with designs.. hell look at the Ridgeline. People compared it to the avalanche at first and im sure they are comparing the Crosstour to the ZDX .. even though its a whole different beast.
The picture a couple posts up .. best looking crosstour ive seen sofar for sure.
Honda/Acura have been pushing the envelope for years now with designs.. hell look at the Ridgeline. People compared it to the avalanche at first and im sure they are comparing the Crosstour to the ZDX .. even though its a whole different beast.
The picture a couple posts up .. best looking crosstour ive seen sofar for sure.
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If you're in a place like south florida where you'll never see any snow, then you'll never need the clearance that the height gives you anyway... so all you're left with is the need for the space... which isn't affected by dropping it
#2453
#2454
The sizzle in the Steak
#2455
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What looks better Crosstour or a 4g TL?
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definitly a case of lesser of two evils, but nothing can fix the front end of the abomination which is the new TL.... the cross tour on the other hand in black with a blacked out grill hides most of its gaudiness and makes it livable at least. but thats just my
#2457
I dont think the crosstour is all that bad. Heck im sure it would be very usefull for a family. Not everyone can swing an Acura so the Honda is the next best for them pricewise.
Honda/Acura have been pushing the envelope for years now with designs.. hell look at the Ridgeline. People compared it to the avalanche at first and im sure they are comparing the Crosstour to the ZDX .. even though its a whole different beast.
The picture a couple posts up .. best looking crosstour ive seen sofar for sure.
Honda/Acura have been pushing the envelope for years now with designs.. hell look at the Ridgeline. People compared it to the avalanche at first and im sure they are comparing the Crosstour to the ZDX .. even though its a whole different beast.
The picture a couple posts up .. best looking crosstour ive seen sofar for sure.
Acura ZDX and TSX Wagon
#2458
#2459
The sizzle in the Steak
#2460
I have no idea what Infiniti has to do with this thread. We were talking about the Crosstour and ZDX not Infiniti. Seems someone is going off topic of this thread! There are plenty of Infiniti threads on autonews you can bash them in if you like !
#2463
The sizzle in the Steak
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#2466
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To each his own, looks are definitely subjective. There are worse vehicles out there, IMO. Namely, Toyota Venza (wtf is up with that face???), Lincoln MKwhatever SUV that just came out, Kia Soul, Nissan Cube, and I think the Element is also worse.
Having choices is a good thing.
Having choices is a good thing.
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#2467
The sizzle in the Steak
The Venza is quite nice.....and when you compare it to the jekyll and hyde designed Crosstour, it's no contest the Venza wins.
Crosstour looks like it was designed by a deaf dumb and blind committee.
Crosstour looks like it was designed by a deaf dumb and blind committee.
#2468
Whats up with RDX owners?
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roominess? utility? I mean i'm sure familes appreciate the volume of a wagon...
If you're in a place like south florida where you'll never see any snow, then you'll never need the clearance that the height gives you anyway... so all you're left with is the need for the space... which isn't affected by dropping it
If you're in a place like south florida where you'll never see any snow, then you'll never need the clearance that the height gives you anyway... so all you're left with is the need for the space... which isn't affected by dropping it
The rear seat is not very roomy. Its a bitch to fit a car seat in due to the sloped roof. You constantly have to duck to get into it, again due to the roof.
As far as utility goes, that sloped roof rears its ugly head once again. A Pilot is a better choice for both roominess and utility. Both however are questionable in the looks department.
And the Crosstour is not a wagon. The mules running around during testing with the Accord front end grafted on the Euro Accord/TSX wagon were much nicer looking and more useful.
#2471
Alls they had to do was jack it up a few inches in ground clearance, added AWD, and the Crosstour would've been a Honda alternate to a Subaru. And I would've been happy with that. But instead they gave it that front-heavy facade and a fastback. Mind you this was intended was a family use vehicle. That Edmunds article is definitely on target. They really don't know what they're doing.
#2472
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To each his own, looks are definitely subjective. There are worse vehicles out there, IMO. Namely, Toyota Venza (wtf is up with that face???), Lincoln MKwhatever SUV that just came out, Kia Soul, Nissan Cube, and I think the Element is also worse.
Having choices is a good thing.
Having choices is a good thing.
How could anyone with functioning eyeballs think the Crosstour looks better than the Venza?????
#2473
aside from the Gillette inspired grilled, the Venza looks like a winner to me.
#2474
Safety Car
2011
Date: June 24, 2010 12:24
Submitted by: Jeff
Source: Honda Press Release
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EPA fuel economy goes up to 23/34 city/highway mpg (+2/+3) on some models; more features and a new Accord SE Sedan model to debut
06/24/2010 - TORRANCE, Calif. -Submitted by: Jeff
Source: Honda Press Release
Credibility Rating: Not Specified
EPA fuel economy goes up to 23/34 city/highway mpg (+2/+3) on some models; more features and a new Accord SE Sedan model to debut
Set to go on sale in mid-August, the 2011 Honda Accord Sedan and Coupe receive significant updates including improved fuel economy, enhanced exterior and interior styling and the addition of a new leather-equipped Special Edition (SE) trim level. Available as either a sedan or a coupe in 4-cylinder and V-6 variations, the Accord offers a unique balance of style, performance, efficiency and value specific to each individual model.
"For 2011, the Accord evolves again with sharpened styling inside and out, fuel economy gains and a broader application of popular features," said Erik Berkman, vice president of Corporate Planning and Logistics for American Honda Motor Co., Inc. "The Accord is designed to deliver a consistently rewarding ownership experience in the areas that matter most to sedan and coupe drivers."
Improvements to vehicle aerodynamics, engine friction and transmission gear ratios all contribute to fuel economy improvements. The EPA fuel-economy ratings1 for Accord 4-cylinder sedan models equipped with an automatic transmission improve by 2 miles per gallon (mpg) in the city and 3 mpg on the highway, for a city/highway rating of 23/34 mpg.
The 2011 Accord Sedan's exterior expresses a more upscale and powerful presence with a new style for the front grille, front bumper and rear deck lid, along with a new wheel design.
Building on the sedan's design character, the Accord Coupe's unique muscular stance is enhanced with a bolder front grille design, new front bumper shape, enhanced brakelight appearance and a new wheel design for V-6 models.
Striking a balance between value and luxury, the Accord SE Sedan offers the additional features from the popular Accord LX-P with the added luxury of leather-trimmed seating, heated seats, driver's power-lumbar support and a leather-trimmed steering wheel.
New features on certain models include steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters on the Accord EX-L V-6 Coupe, a USB Audio Interface on all coupe models and Accord EX and EX-L Sedans, and a rear view camera on sedans equipped with the available Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation2 System™. Additionally, Accord EX-L V-6 models receive a two-position memory system for the driver's seat. Additional interior updates on all models include new seat fabrics on models with cloth seats, an updated instrument panel design and more-refined accent points throughout the interior.
Interior styling on all models provides attainable luxury with generous standard equipment, world-class ergonomics and intuitive vehicle controls. The front seats are designed to provide generous lateral support and to complement the Accord's sporty side. The fold-down, rear seatback offers cargo-carrying versatility and also includes a lockable pass-through for long items like snow skis.
New for 2011, the most frequently used climate-control buttons are now positioned on the left side of the control stack, closer to the driver for ease-of-use, and less-frequently used buttons are now positioned on the right side. Vehicle clock adjustment is also made easier by more prominent control lettering.
A 190-horsepower, 2.4-liter, 16-valve DOHC i-VTEC 4-cylinder engine is standard in the Accord EX and EX-L Sedans and Accord LX-S, EX and EX-L Coupes. The 2.4-liter i-VTEC four-cylinder engine in the Accord LX, LX-P and SE Sedans produces 177 horsepower.
The available 3.5-liter, 24-valve SOHC i-VTEC® V-6 engine produces 271-horsepower and takes advantage of Variable Cylinder Management™ (VCM®) technology that can deactivate up to half of the cylinders while cruising to improve fuel economy. Preliminary EPA fuel-economy ratings3 for the 2011 Accord V-6 Sedan are 19 city/30 highway mpg, an improvement of 1 mpg in highway driving.
The performance-oriented Accord EX-L V-6 Coupe with the 6-speed manual transmission has a unique 3.5-liter V-6 VTEC engine (without VCM) that provides a performance-tuned valvetrain, intake and exhaust system to broaden the torque curve in the low- to mid-rpm range for enthusiast-level performance.
A 5-speed manual transmission is standard on 4-cylinder models and a 5-speed automatic is available. A 5-speed automatic transmission is standard on V-6-powered models. A 6-speed manual transmission is available exclusively on the Accord EX-L V-6 Coupe.
For safety, the Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE®) is an exclusive body design that enhances occupant protection and crash compatibility in frontal crashes. The ACE™ design utilizes a network of connected structural elements to distribute crash energy more evenly throughout the front of the vehicle. This enhanced frontal crash energy management helps to reduce the forces transferred to the passenger compartment.
The double-wishbone front and multi-link rear suspension inspire confident handling performance while also providing a comfortable ride. The 2011 Accord Sedan comes standard with 16-inch steel wheels with wheel covers, or 16- or 17-inch alloy wheels depending on the model.
Three audio systems are available – all with MP3/Windows Media® Audio (WMA) playback capability and an auxiliary input jack. The standard system provides a single-disc CD player, six speakers and 160 watts of power. Radio Data System (RDS) displays information broadcast by participating FM radio stations that often includes call letters, station type (searchable by genre) and programming information. Steering wheel-mounted audio controls come standard on every Accord. The Accord EX Sedan and LX-S Coupe add a 6-disc in-dash changer.
A premium 270-watt audio system comes standard on Accord EX Coupe and Accord EX-L Sedan models, and includes a six-disc CD changer and seven speakers including an 8-inch subwoofer. XM Radio® is standard equipment on all Accord EX-L models.
The Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System (available on Accord EX-L) uses an 8-inch screen and an interface dial for user input. Features include the Zagat Survey® guide for restaurants, nightlife, hotels and attractions. Accord EX and EX-L Coupe and Accord EX-L Sedan models include Bluetooth® HandsFreeLink® as standard equipment for connecting wirelessly with compatible mobile phones.
The Accord Coupe (4-cylinder) has 17-inch alloy wheels as standard equipment, with 18-inch alloys standard on the Accord V-6 Coupe. All Accords feature four-wheel disc brakes.
Currently more than 95 percent of the Accords sold in the United States are produced4 at Honda of America Manufacturing Inc.'s Marysville Auto Plant in Marysville, Ohio, and at Honda Manufacturing of Alabama, LLC, in Lincoln, Alabama. The Marysville plant is the sole global source of the Accord Coupe.
1 Based on 2011 EPA mileage estimates. Use for comparison purposes only. Do not compare to models before 2008. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle.
2 Certain functions that rely on a satellite signal will not work correctly in Hawaii and Alaska. These functions include but are not limited to automatic clock updates and time zone adjustments.
3 Preliminary mileage estimates determined by Honda. Final EPA mileage estimates not available at the time of printing. Use for comparison purposes only. Do not compare to models before 2008. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle.
4 Honda products are produced using domestic and globally-sourced parts.
Third-party trademarks: The Bluetooth word mark and logos are owned by the Bluetooth SIG, Inc., and any use of such marks by Honda Motor Co., Ltd., is under license. Zagat Survey® is a registered trademark of Zagat Survey, LLC.
#2475
The sizzle in the Steak
Improvements to vehicle aerodynamics, engine friction and transmission gear ratios all contribute to fuel economy improvements
#2476
Race Director
^Getting a 10% fuel mileage improvement from just the listed "imprvements" doesn't seem plausible. They either lowballed the current gen numbers or something else changed. The marketing guys must have been hammering the engineers to get the numbers close to the Sonata. You have to wonder if all it took are those changes to have such an increase in mileage why didn't they do it sooner?
#2477
the front does look a little better, but they should've just took the coupe's front and pasted it over the sedan's current front. the headlights on the coupe look a little sharper than the sedan's.
#2478
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
The fuck did they do to the taillights on the coupe? The trunk on the sedan looks retarded too. And that grille
#2479
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
I think they shouldve put the rear of the coupe on the sedan. TOV did a chop of that back in 07-08 when they first came out and it looked perfect. This looks horrendous.
#2480
The sizzle in the Steak
Hey look! LED tails!!!!