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Old 12-12-2011, 08:22 AM
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2013 Honda Accord Coupe Concept to Make World Debut at the 2012 North American International Auto Show

A concept vehicle revealing the styling direction of the next-generation Honda Accord Coupe will debut at the 2012 North American International Auto Show January 10, American Honda Motor Co., Inc., announced today.

The Accord Coupe Concept will convey the dynamic and aggressive profile of the ninth-generation 2013 Honda Accord set to go on sale in the fall of 2012. John Mendel, American Honda executive vice president of sales, will introduce the concept vehicle at a press conference, which will also be broadcast live via webcast at http://hondanews.com/live/2012naias-honda (link will be live Jan. 10).

A leader in style, performance, safety, efficiency and value since the introduction of the first generation model in 1976, the Accord remains one of the best-selling cars in America. The 2012 Accord was recently named to Car and Driver Magazine's '10Best' list for a record 26th time and was ranked as having the highest initial quality in its segment in the J.D. Power and Associates 2011 Initial Quality Study (IQS). The introduction of the ninth-generation Accord marks 30 years of U.S. production of the model at the Marysville Auto Plant in Marysville, Ohio, the first Japanese car assembly plant in the U.S.

For high-resolution photos and media information on the current Honda lineup, please visit www.hondanews.com. After the press conference, images and video of the Accord Coupe Concept will also be available for download on the site.
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Heres hoping they dont uglify it



<-- Knows damn well they will.
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Last chance, Honda.

You've got tough competition.....better hit a grand slam.
The days of getting by with a sacrifice bunt are over.

Time for Honda to bring the A game.
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My guess is it's going to be a mild refresh like with the Civic. I think they're going to play it safe.
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Styling wise maybe, but it will likely shrink a bit in size and weight so the TL version can be smaller as well.
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it needs to shrink, cause any bigger and it'll look as bloated as the departed Mitsubishi Eclipse.
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My guess is it's going to be a mild refresh like with the Civic. I think they're going to play it safe.
I doubt it. It's going from 8th to 9th generation. I mean think about the differences between the 6th and 7th gen, or the 7th and 8th gen. It's going to be very different....
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well the jump to the "next-gen" for the civic was pretty shitty and basically like an MMC refresh... so...

well lets just hope honda doesnt fuck it up basically
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Wait...I didn't realize the 2012 Civic wasn't a MMC
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Honda will unveil all-new Accord Coupe today at 9:20AM

Honda will unveil the all-new Accord Coupe today at 9:20AM.

http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/ar...les&id=6448-en

Watch the live webcast at 9:20 AM here:
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Wewbcast is on!!

http://hondawebcast.com/
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Not much change and not much news.
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Honda unveiled the dynamic Accord Coupe Concept today at the North American International Auto Show, providing the first official glimpse of the athletic styling direction, as well as revealing a host of new technologies for the all-new, 9th-generation 2013 model, set to go on-sale this fall.

The 2013 Accord will feature three all-new powertrains, including the 1st U.S. application of both a 2.4-liter direct-injected engine and 2-motor plug-in hybrid system from Honda’s suite of next-generation Earth DreamsTM powertrain technologies. In addition, the V-6 Accord will be the 1st Honda sedan to feature a new 6-speed automatic transmission. Both the Accord Sedan and the Accord Coupe models are expected to achieve class-leading fuel economy ratings and will be available with a number of innovative new safety and technological features.

“Marking the 30th anniversary of U.S. production, this new 9th-generation Accord will raise the bar again through a tour de force of new Honda powertrain and safety technologies, geared to ensure that Honda and the Accord continue to lead in fuel economy, safety and fun-to-drive performance,” said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda.

Design and Packaging
The Accord Coupe Concept features an athletic styling direction for Honda’s best-selling model. The front bumper’s dynamic lines are highlighted by a revised 4-sided honeycomb grille and deeply set multi-reflector headlights. Lower fog-light spoilers are accented by crystallized chrome inlays.

The Accord Coupe Concept’s 20-inch, machine-finished, 5-spoke wheels contribute to its solid stance. The rear taillights aggressively sweep into the body, while a trunk -lid spoiler and large exhaust finishers integrated into the bumper underscore the Accord Coupe Concept’s muscular exterior.

While the Accord Coupe will remain similarly sized, the Accord Sedan will feature a more compact exterior footprint, adding to its sportier appearance. A shortened wheelbase and reduced weight will also give the 2013 Accord Sedan more responsive handling and improved driving dynamics. Both the 2013 Accord Sedan and Accord Coupe will retain the current model’s generous cabin space.

Advanced and Efficient Powertrains
The Accord will offer 3 all-new powertrains for the 2013 model year. The Accord Sedan and Accord Coupe will be the first models in the U.S. to receive the new Earth Dreams 2.4-liter, 16-valve DOHC i-VTEC® 4-cylinder engine featuring direct- injection (DI). The engine will be paired to a new Continuous Variable Transmission (CVT), which utilizes an innovative ‘G-Design Shift’ cooperative control system for excellent acceleration and responsive shifting. The all-new 2.4-liter DI engine generates significant performance improvements compared to the 2.4-liter 4-cylinder engine it replaces, producing more than 181 horsepower and 177 lb-ft of torque. In addition to an overall improvement in fuel economy compared to the 2012 model, the new four-cylinder-equipped 2013 Accord models are targeted to deliver class-leading fuel economy1.

The 2013 Accord Sedan and Accord Coupe will also be offered with a re- engineered 3.5-liter, 24-valve, SOHC, i-VTEC V-6 engine, paired to a new 6-speed automatic transmission or an available 6-speed manual transmission. The new V-6 engine generates an increase in horsepower and torque over the current model. The 2013 Accord Sedan and Accord Coupe models equipped with the 6-speed automatic transmission will utilize Honda Variable Cylinder Management TM (VCMTM) technology and are targeted to achieve class-leading fuel economy1 along with an overall improvement in fuel economy compared to the outgoing model.

The 2013 Accord lineup will also feature the first application of a new 2-motor plug-in hybrid system to the Accord Sedan. The Honda 2-motor hybrid system moves continuously through 3 modes - all-electric, gasoline-electric and direct-drive - to maximize driving efficiency and fuel economy.

In all-electric mode, the 2013 Accord Plug-In Hybrid will use a 6 kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery and a powerful 120 kW electric motor to achieve an all-electric range of approximately 10-15 miles in city driving scenarios and a top speed of 62 mph. Fully recharging the battery will take less than 4 hours using a 120-volt, outlet and less than 1.5 hours using a 240-volt charger.

In the gasoline-electric hybrid mode, the Accord is powered by its fuel-efficient 2.0-liter, i-VTEC inline 4-cylinder, Atkinson cycle engine, paired with an electric Continuously Variable Transmission (E-CVT). For more efficient high-speed cruising, the Accord Plug-In Hybrid can engage in a direct-drive mode, in which only the engine drives the front wheels. The Accord Plug-In Hybrid will launch next winter.

All 2013 Accord models will incorporate the Honda ECO AssistTM system, an innovative technology that can enhance efficient vehicle operation at the touch of a button, while also providing visual feedback to the driver to promote and confirm a more efficient driving style.

Safety and Technological Innovations
The 2013 Accord will introduce numerous new features for enhanced driver safety, visibility and security. The new Accord will be available with Honda’s first application of Lane Departure Warning (LDW) and Forward Crash Warning (FCW) technology. Both systems use a camera mounted behind the windshield to alert drivers if the car is moving out of its lane or to warn drivers of a potential collision in front of them. The 2013 Accord will be the first Honda model to apply a side curtain airbag with a wider deployment profile to enhance ejection mitigation. This application is 2 years in advance of new safety regulations going into effect in 2015.

The 2013 Accord is targeted to earn top scores in both the federal government’s New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety2 (IIHS) vehicle evaluations.

Additionally, the Accord will be equipped with several new technologies to help improve the driver’s visibility around the vehicle. The Accord will be the first model to receive the Honda-exclusive LaneWatchTM blind-spot display, which uses a camera system mounted on the passenger mirror for an enhanced view of the passenger- side roadway. The Accord will also receive a Multi-Angle Rearview Camera and an Expanded View Driver’s Mirror as standard equipment.

The Accord has always been an exceptional value and the 2013 model will offer more standard equipment compared to the current model, including new advanced technology features. High-tech features that will be found on all 2013 Accord models include Bluetooth®3 HandsFreeLink® phone interface, a full-color intelligent Multi- Information Display (i-MID) and an SMS text messaging function, which can read received texts from compatible cell phones aloud over the audio system. Another standard feature and 1st for the Accord is the introduction of a Pandora® Internet Radio interface4, compatible with the Apple® iPhone®, which works with the vehicle's audio controls and i-MID.

Sales, Accolades and Manufacturing History
The Honda Accord, currently in its eighth generation, is one of Honda's best- selling vehicles worldwide and remains one of the top-selling automobiles in the U.S. The Accord was launched in 1976 with subsequent major re-designs in 1982, 1986, 1990, 1994, 1998, 2003 and 2008. More than 11 million Accords have been sold in the U.S. since 1976.

Since its introduction nearly 36 years ago, the Accord has been honored for its quality, reliability and superior drivability. Car and Driver magazine has awarded the Honda Accord its prestigious and highly competitive annual ‘10Best Cars’ award a record 26 times. No other vehicle in the award’s history has been honored as frequently as the Accord. The Accord was also recognized for the highest initial quality in the mid- size sedan segment in the 2011 J.D. Power Initial Quality Survey.

In 2012, Honda will celebrate 30 years of Accord production in the U.S. The first Accord Sedan rolled off the Marysville, Ohio assembly line on November 1, 1982 and was the first Japanese-nameplate car assembled in the U.S. Since then, more than 8 million Accords have been produced5 at Honda’s 1st U.S. auto plant in Marysville, Ohio. More about Honda in America is available at http://www.hondainamerica.com.

1Preliminary EPA mileage estimates determined by Honda. Final EPA mileage estimates not available at the time of printing.
2The 2012 Honda Accord was named a 2012 TOP SAFETY PICK by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). According to the IIHS, the award "recognizes vehicles that do the best job of protecting people in front, side, rear, and now for 2010 rollover crashes”.
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re- engineered 3.5-liter, 24-valve, SOHC, i-VTEC V-6 engine
So I guess its not the Earth Dreams DI version then.
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Looks really good. Lets just hope the sedan doesn't somehow get stuck with bug eyed headlights like the current version.
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At this point, it's just comical.
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What are you guys having a problem with? I get that it looks more like an MMC and very close to the previous gen but a good looking car is a good looking car.
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Meh. Wake me up when they introduce the sedan.

*goes back to sleep*
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So what exactly does re-engineered V6 mean? Its the venerable J, but how different is it than what we've been seeing for all these years?
Old 01-10-2012, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
Meh. Wake me up when they introduce the sedan.

*goes back to sleep*
A Vaporcar that, if it ever comes is at least 3 years away gets you more excited?
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What are you guys having a problem with? I get that it looks more like an MMC and very close to the previous gen but a good looking car is a good looking car.
Its Hondas' best looking car BY FAR. But it doesnt look different enough or have any improvements in the drive train in order to pry the $$ out of my wallet.
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What are you guys having a problem with? I get that it looks more like an MMC and very close to the previous gen but a good looking car is a good looking car.
you think that looks good?
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Originally Posted by pttl
Its Hondas' best looking car BY FAR. But it doesnt look different enough or have any improvements in the drive train in order to pry the $$ out of my wallet.
No improvements?
- All new 2.4 with DI
- All new CVT (meh I know)
- 6 speeds to the AT (finally)
- Re-engineered J, whatever that means
- Plug in Hybrid!

If anything, yesterday was the far bigger let down IMO. There was NOTHING new on the power train front yesterday. It was all recycled engines and trannies for Acura and a Vaporcar.
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Originally Posted by phile
you think that looks good?
I do.
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Looks like they swapped out the front end of a Kia Optima and put it on the coupe. Pretty disappointed as I was looking to buy a coupe and was not a fan of the current Accord coupe.
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I dunno....if I were shopping b/w this and the ILX, I might have to take this. The V6 6-speed manual sedan intrigues me a bit.

Hope they can make that sedan look just as good as the coupe for once.
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Originally Posted by dom
No improvements?
- All new 2.4 with DI
- All new CVT (meh I know)
- 6 speeds to the AT (finally)
- Re-engineered J, whatever that means
- Plug in Hybrid!

If anything, yesterday was the far bigger let down IMO. There was NOTHING new on the power train front yesterday. It was all recycled engines and trannies for Acura and a Vaporcar.
At least as far as the ILX goes.
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
The V6 6-speed manual sedan intrigues me a bit.
I was wondering where you got that from but reading the PR again it does say...

The 2013 Accord Sedan and Accord Coupe will also be offered with a re- engineered 3.5-liter, 24-valve, SOHC, i-VTEC V-6 engine, paired to a new 6-speed automatic transmission or an available 6-speed manual transmission.
The sedan available with the MT? Nice if that's the case.
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What are you guys having a problem with? I get that it looks more like an MMC and very close to the previous gen but a good looking car is a good looking car.
IMO, it's not that much different than the 2008 model. It's been freshened up a bit but after a show with some amazing cars unveiled, this is boring. I was floored by a FREAKING FORD FUSION! LOL.

Maybe it's my fault but I just wanted something fresh.
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Honda Motor Co. today unveiled an Accord Coupe Concept that foreshadows the styling of the production car set to arrive this year against stiffening competition.

The concept, shown at the Detroit auto show, sports a creased beltline, muscular rear fender and aggressive lower fog lights. Powertrain improvements will be a key selling point for the 2013 Accord, Honda says.

After the Accord's 17% drop in U.S. sales last year, Honda is counting on the next Accord to take on freshly redesigned mid-sized rivals, including the Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, Hyundai Sonata, Ford Fusion and Chevrolet Malibu.

The coupe will be the same size as the current model. But the sedan will have a smaller footprint than today's version, with a shorter wheelbase and lower curb weight for better handling and enhanced fuel economy.

Interior space will stay the same, Honda pledges.

The timing of the sedan's U.S. launch hasn't been released.

The Accord's U.S. sales decline last year, to 235,625, stemmed largely from supply shortages following Japan's March 11 earthquake.

That dropped it to 4th place in the segment, behind the Camry, Fusion and Altima. The Camry held onto its No. 1 spot despite dropping 6% to 308,510 units, also because of supply shortages after the earthquake.

Honda needs a strong showing from the Accord after its redesigned Civic small car received a chilly reception last year for what critics said was a cheap-looking interior.

American Honda's total U.S. sales fell 7% in a market that increased 10 percent.

New Powertrains

The Accord will feature three new drivetrains.

The first will feature the initial U.S. use of the next-generation, direct-injection engine that Honda unveiled in late November at the Tokyo Motor Show. The so-called Earth Dreams engine, a 2.4-liter, 16-valve, DOHC i-VTEC 4 banger, will be combined with a new continuously variable transmission.

The engine delivers 181 hp and better fuel economy than the Accord's current base powerplant, an inline four. Honda did not release fuel-economy figures but said the engine aims to achieve class-leading mileage.

The 2nd drivetrain will consist of a re-engineered 3.5-liter, 24-valve, SOHC i-VTEC V-6 engine paired with either a new 6-speed automatic transmission or an existing 6-speed manual. The automatic will achieve better fuel economy and horsepower than the outgoing model, Honda says.

The final variant is the 1st use of Honda's two-motor, plug-in hybrid system. In all-electric mode, the system's lithium ion battery and motor can power the car for up to 15 miles of city driving at speeds as high as 62 mph. The battery can be fully recharged in 4 hours using a 120-volt outlet or in 90 minutes with a 240-volt charger, Honda says.

For longer drives, the hybrid operates in gasoline-electric mode, drawing from a 2.0-liter, 4-cylinder, Atkinson-cycle engine combined with a CVT. For high-speed cruising, the car can run in gasoline-only mode with the engine directly powering the front wheels.

The Accord Plug-in Hybrid will go on sale in the winter of 2012, Honda says.

Honda canceled the previous Accord hybrid at the end of its 2007 model year.

Safety features

Honda says the next Accord also will sport several new safety features.

It will have Honda's 1st lane-departure warning system and 1st forward-crash warning technology. Both use cameras mounted behind the windshield to alert drivers of dangers.

It also will get Honda's 1st use of its LaneWatch blind spot display, which uses a camera mounted on the passenger mirror to keep tabs on that side of the car.

A multiangle rearview camera also will come standard.

Other new standard features in the next Accord:

• Bluetooth hands-free phone interface.

• Full color information display.

• An SMS texting function that reads messages aloud.

• iPhone-compatible Pandora Internet radio.


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No improvements?
- All new 2.4 with DI
- All new CVT (meh I know)
- 6 speeds to the AT (finally)
- Re-engineered J, whatever that means
- Plug in Hybrid!

If anything, yesterday was the far bigger let down IMO. There was NOTHING new on the power train front yesterday. It was all recycled engines and trannies for Acura and a Vaporcar.
I suppose i look at the cars Honda brings out too myopically. Those improvements are good for Honda I suppose. But for me, the current Ack owner, those "improvements" have absolutely NO appeal or meaning.

I just expect and keep hoping for a NEW platform. I know...how silly of me. I guess that's why, when the time comes, I will be a former Ack owner.
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Honda Accord Gets Bolder Looks & Better DriveTrains

Honda Motor Co. today unveiled an Accord Coupe Concept that foreshadows the styling of the production car set to arrive this year against stiffening competition.

...

The coupe will be the same size as the current model. But the sedan will have a smaller footprint than today's version, with a shorter wheelbase and lower curb weight for better handling and enhanced fuel economy.


New Powertrains

The Accord will feature three new drivetrains.

The first will feature the initial U.S. use of the next-generation, direct-injection engine that Honda unveiled in late November at the Tokyo Motor Show. The so-called Earth Dreams engine, a 2.4-liter, 16-valve, DOHC i-VTEC 4 banger, will be combined with a new continuously variable transmission.

The engine delivers 181 hp and better fuel economy than the Accord's current base powerplant, an inline four. Honda did not release fuel-economy figures but said the engine aims to achieve class-leading mileage.

The 2nd drivetrain will consist of a re-engineered 3.5-liter, 24-valve, SOHC i-VTEC V-6 engine paired with either a new 6-speed automatic transmission or an existing 6-speed manual. The automatic will achieve better fuel economy and horsepower than the outgoing model, Honda says.

The final variant is the 1st use of Honda's two-motor, plug-in hybrid system. In all-electric mode, the system's lithium ion battery and motor can power the car for up to 15 miles of city driving at speeds as high as 62 mph. The battery can be fully recharged in 4 hours using a 120-volt outlet or in 90 minutes with a 240-volt charger, Honda says.

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FWIW, it seems the sedan has more changes in store than the refresh of the coupe.

Lower curb weight, smaller footprint, and new powertrains with the v6 coupled to a 6mt is pretty dang interesting to me.

Sounds like the first gen TSX....with a v6. What I actually wanted back in the day.

I'm also not writing off the earth dreams i4 coupled to the stepped CVT just yet. Some articles point to the fact that they tried very hard to engineer the CVT feel out of the CVT. So while the v6 is intriguing, the better balanced model may actually end up being the one with the newly engineered 2.4.

Forgive my optimism...I'll believe it when I see it, but on paper, it has potential.
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Wow.....

Ford just jumped up and down when they saw the Accord.
Ford wins! The Fusion will eat the Accords lunch.

The new Accord is just like the "new" Civic.
Honda resting on its laurels when it comes to exterior designs.

...and CVT???!
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Oh god. Must be Honda's/Acura's new thing with the LEDs around the fog light area. Copying stupid Audi/MB

Gah... I hate it.




Same with the rear. And so much worse than on the ILX.


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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Forgive my optimism...I'll believe it when I see it, but on paper, it has potential.
+ 1 It would also be interesting if Honda decides to sell the 6MT Sedan with a sportier suspension like Toyota's Camry SE.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
The new Accord is just like the "new" Civic.
Honda resting on its laurels when it comes to exterior designs.

...and CVT???!
Agreed. How about some new designs Honda? I get that it worked last time around but that doesn't mean something else wont work either... This isn't a 911...

Yes it looks good but i was hoping they would have something more radical up their sleeves in response to their sales dearth; i guess not
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This coupe looks barely different from the old coupe.

I don't understand some of the optimistic views here.
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Originally Posted by KillerG
Agreed. How about some new designs Honda? I get that it worked last time around but that doesn't mean something else wont work either... This isn't a 911...

Yes it looks good but i was hoping they would have something more radical up their sleeves in response to their sales dearth; i guess not
I don't even want radical.

I want something that at least showed that they tried to do a new design.
How is this car that looks almost exactly like the current car going to get me to come into the dealership to purchase?

A 4 cyl DI engine?!?!? Seriously?!?! That's the draw? Direct Injection is supposed to bring in the masses?

CVT? That alone makes most buyers head for the hills.


Sure I've been wanting Honda to get with 5 years ago and build DI engines, but why are you putting them in essentially the same vehicle design?!?!

It's baffling.


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