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Honda: Accord News
05-28-2009, 11:47 AM
#2401
The sizzle in the Steak
05-28-2009, 11:52 AM
#2403
The sizzle in the Steak
I was thinking the V6 model....and if any model should get one it's the V6 rather than the 4 banger.
05-28-2009, 12:08 PM
#2405
The sizzle in the Steak
05-28-2009, 12:22 PM
#2406
Senior Moderator
05-28-2009, 12:37 PM
#2407
Senior Moderator
Yes it is. We've discussed this at length in the TSX section. Seems like it would cost too much to offer another variation of the TSX that would sell in small numbers. While I don't agree, that has to be Honda's reasoning.
05-28-2009, 12:54 PM
#2410
The sizzle in the Steak
05-28-2009, 01:23 PM
#2415
The sizzle in the Steak
07-17-2009, 01:27 PM
#2417
Safety Car
Sales
Honda is creeping up on the No.1 car sold in the United States - the Toyota Camry. In the first six months of 2009, the Honda Accord trails behind by just 19,199 units, reports WardsAuto. Data shows that Toyota sold 150,242 units of the Camry through June, while Honda sold 131,043 units of the Accord.
The margin between the two cars is the smallest since 2003. Honda has been closing the gaps for the past two years says WardsAuto. In 2008, the Camry beat the Accord by 63,828 units, down from 80,877 in 2007 and 94,004 in 2006.
Data shows that demand for the Honda Accord has slipped 36.3 form 2008 during the first six months of 2009. Demand for the Camry has slid 37.4 percent.
05-17-2010, 07:03 AM
#2418
Safety Car
Since the Sales Thread has been Locked ....
Toyota Camry Loses Top Spot to Accord
Toyota's troubles may cause it to lose perennial position as top-selling car in U.S. market
By Scott Sloan - ssloan@herald-leader.com
With four months of 2010 in the rearview mirror, the Toyota Camry, long the top-selling car in the United States, might be in danger of falling out of the lead.Toyota's troubles may cause it to lose perennial position as top-selling car in U.S. market
By Scott Sloan - ssloan@herald-leader.com
The Camry, which is made at Toyota's plant in Georgetown, was one of several models that the automaker stopped selling earlier this year as part of its series of widespread recalls over issues including faulty gas pedals.
At the end of April, the Camry trailed the Honda Accord in year-to-date sales by 7,592 units. The Accord and its family of models including the Accord Crosstour sold 104,101 units to the 96,509 sold of the Camry and its family including Camry Hybrid.
The Camry has been the top-selling car in the United States for 12 of the past 13 years, losing only once, to the Accord in 2001.
That year, Camry went through a model change, which in the past has affected volume.
"We did lose considerable volume when going through those stages of major model changes," said Georgetown plant spokesman Rick Hesterberg. "We've become more efficient at it in the last 10 years where that did not occur."
Camry is not the overall top-selling vehicle, though. That crown has been claimed by Ford's F-Series pickup line for ages (See chart on page B3). The Camry also frequently trails the Chevrolet Silverado pickup, though it did top it last year and became the second best-selling vehicle in the country.
Being the top seller is an accolade that automakers often use in marketing.
"You can definitely use that in advertising," said Honda spokesman Chris Martin. "It does provide maybe some reassurance to certain customers that they're picking a vehicle that a lot of other people are picking."
With eight months of numbers still to go in 2010, it's possible the Camry will pull back in front. On the back of unprecedented financial incentives by Toyota, it outsold the Accord by more than 7,000 units in March; however, the Accord again outsold the Camry by nearly 4,000 units in April. The Accord outsold the Camry in both January and February. Those months saw dealerships stop selling certain Camrys, as well as the height of recall-related publicity.
Steve St. Angelo, president of the Georgetown plant and Toyota's chief quality officer for North America, emphasized that it's still early in the year and things could change.
Hesterberg added that the title of best-selling car is a point of pride for the thousands of workers in Georgetown.
"It's a good feeling to know you're building a car that consumers really love," he said. "I think it's significant, and it motivates you to build a very high-quality product."
Honda's Martin said his company isn't focused on the accolade.
"Before the end of the year, it could totally change," he said. "It's a factor of production capacity, world balance on where you're going to put your capacity, the amount you're able to spend on incentives. ... A lot of companies chase that. Honda, as a company, doesn't. ...
"It will be a happy occurrence if that turns out to be true, but it's not going to be because of us trying to target that or achieve it."
Reach Scott Sloan at (859) 231-1447 or 1-800-950-6397, Ext. 1447.
2010 so far
The 10 top-selling vehicles in the United States through the end of April and their year-to-date sales at this point in 2009:
1. Ford F-Series: 143,985, up from 110,336
2. Honda Accord: 104,101, up from 84,491
3. Chevrolet Silverado: 102,098 up from 93,720
4. Toyota Camry: 96,509, up from 92,523
5. Toyota Corolla: 91,672, up from 78,132
6. Honda Civic: 78,669, up from 76,782
7. Nissan Altima: 74,245, up from 61,670
8. Ford Fusion: 70,382 up from 46,799
9. Chevrolet Malibu: 65,875, up from 50,265
10. Ford Escape: 64,237, up from 44,6262009
The 10 top-selling vehicles in the United States in 2009 with total sales:
1. Ford F-Series: 413,625
2. Toyota Camry: 356,824
3. Chevrolet Silverado: 316,544
4. Toyota Corolla: 296,874
5. Honda Accord: 290,056
6. Honda Civic: 259,722
7. Nissan Altima: 203,568
8. Honda CR-V: 191,214
9. Ford Fusion: 180,671
10. Dodge Ram: 177,268
Sources: Company news releases
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Top-selling vehicles of the past
How the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord have fared in overall vehicle sales since Camry first took the title of best-selling car, in 1997. The Camry grabbed it away from the Ford Taurus, which was the best-selling car from 1992 to 1996.
2009: 1. Ford F-Series. 2. Toyota Camry. 3. Chevrolet Silverado. 4. Toyota Corolla. 5. Honda Accord.
2008: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Accord.
2007: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Accord.
2006: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Dodge Ram. 5. Accord.
2005: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Ram. 5. Accord.
2004: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Ram. 4. Camry. 5. Accord.
2003: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Ram. 4. Camry. 5. Accord.
2002: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Ford Explorer. 5. Accord.
2001: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Explorer. 4. Accord. 5. Camry.
2000: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Explorer. 4. Camry. 5. Accord.
1999: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Ram. 5. Explorer. 6. Accord.
1998: 1. F-Series. 2. Chevrolet C/K and Silverado pickup line. 3. Explorer. 4. Camry. 5. Ram. 6. Accord.
1997: 1. F-Series. 2. C/K. 3. Camry. 4. Accord.
The 10 top-selling vehicles in the United States through the end of April and their year-to-date sales at this point in 2009:
1. Ford F-Series: 143,985, up from 110,336
2. Honda Accord: 104,101, up from 84,491
3. Chevrolet Silverado: 102,098 up from 93,720
4. Toyota Camry: 96,509, up from 92,523
5. Toyota Corolla: 91,672, up from 78,132
6. Honda Civic: 78,669, up from 76,782
7. Nissan Altima: 74,245, up from 61,670
8. Ford Fusion: 70,382 up from 46,799
9. Chevrolet Malibu: 65,875, up from 50,265
10. Ford Escape: 64,237, up from 44,6262009
The 10 top-selling vehicles in the United States in 2009 with total sales:
1. Ford F-Series: 413,625
2. Toyota Camry: 356,824
3. Chevrolet Silverado: 316,544
4. Toyota Corolla: 296,874
5. Honda Accord: 290,056
6. Honda Civic: 259,722
7. Nissan Altima: 203,568
8. Honda CR-V: 191,214
9. Ford Fusion: 180,671
10. Dodge Ram: 177,268
Sources: Company news releases
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Top-selling vehicles of the past
How the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord have fared in overall vehicle sales since Camry first took the title of best-selling car, in 1997. The Camry grabbed it away from the Ford Taurus, which was the best-selling car from 1992 to 1996.
2009: 1. Ford F-Series. 2. Toyota Camry. 3. Chevrolet Silverado. 4. Toyota Corolla. 5. Honda Accord.
2008: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Accord.
2007: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Accord.
2006: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Dodge Ram. 5. Accord.
2005: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Ram. 5. Accord.
2004: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Ram. 4. Camry. 5. Accord.
2003: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Ram. 4. Camry. 5. Accord.
2002: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Ford Explorer. 5. Accord.
2001: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Explorer. 4. Accord. 5. Camry.
2000: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Explorer. 4. Camry. 5. Accord.
1999: 1. F-Series. 2. Silverado. 3. Camry. 4. Ram. 5. Explorer. 6. Accord.
1998: 1. F-Series. 2. Chevrolet C/K and Silverado pickup line. 3. Explorer. 4. Camry. 5. Ram. 6. Accord.
1997: 1. F-Series. 2. C/K. 3. Camry. 4. Accord.
05-17-2010, 11:52 AM
#2421
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I wonder how many of those Camry sales are attributed to fleet sales to rental agencies? Rental sales are very limited in the Accord lineup. If you take out those sales, the Accord was probably the better seller all along...just sayin'
05-17-2010, 12:18 PM
#2422
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05-17-2010, 01:00 PM
#2423
Senior Moderator
meh, ill take it with a grain of salt.
05-17-2010, 01:09 PM
#2424
The sizzle in the Steak
The only reason the Accord pulled ahead is due to the Toyota mess...when all is said and done the Camry will be top of the heap again.
05-17-2010, 01:36 PM
#2426
Senior Moderator
Well I guess we really don't have enough info to come to any sort or solid conclusion about what this really means. But the one thing we do know is that the Crosstour adds about 2500 units per month to the Accord tally. Take those out and its not in first anymore. 
Having said that if I was buying a family sedan today the Accord would be at the top of my shopping list, bug eyed head lights and all.
Having said that if I was buying a family sedan today the Accord would be at the top of my shopping list, bug eyed head lights and all.
05-17-2010, 01:39 PM
#2427
fap fap fap
05-17-2010, 01:47 PM
#2428
The sizzle in the Steak
Well I guess we really don't have enough info to come to any sort or solid conclusion about what this really means. But the one thing we do know is that the Crosstour adds about 2500 units per month to the Accord tally. Take those out and its not in first anymore.
Having said that if I was buying a family sedan today the Accord would be at the top of my shopping list, bug eyed head lights and all.
Having said that if I was buying a family sedan today the Accord would be at the top of my shopping list, bug eyed head lights and all.
2,500 people a month buy the Crosstour?!?!?Who are these strange creatures?
05-17-2010, 01:50 PM
#2430
05-17-2010, 02:47 PM
#2431
and Panameras too! 
05-17-2010, 03:53 PM
#2432
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Funny I've only seen 2 on the road.
05-17-2010, 04:52 PM
#2433
05-18-2010, 08:00 AM
#2434
Senior Moderator
And the Camry does have a Crossover thingy sharing its platform. The Venza, although they didn't decide to call it 'Camry Venza' and bundle sales figures. But its handily outselling the Crosstour 2 to 1.
05-18-2010, 08:18 AM
#2435
05-18-2010, 10:56 AM
#2436
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the Solara discontinued some time ago? Its no longer listed on Toyota.com. I think it was sold for a year after the new Camry launched and then axed. So its been at least 2 years.
And the Camry does have a Crossover thingy sharing its platform. The Venza, although they didn't decide to call it 'Camry Venza' and bundle sales figures. But its handily outselling the Crosstour 2 to 1.
And the Camry does have a Crossover thingy sharing its platform. The Venza, although they didn't decide to call it 'Camry Venza' and bundle sales figures. But its handily outselling the Crosstour 2 to 1.
05-18-2010, 03:10 PM
#2438
Senior Moderator
If nothing else, it definitely displaces the Element as the ugliest vehicle in a Honda showroom.
05-18-2010, 04:02 PM
#2439
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Well, it's got that going for it 
05-20-2010, 02:30 PM
#2440
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they're growing on me... in black the front grill isn't as pronounced... i guess in my head i see it heavily modified though lol...