Acura: TSX News
#2961
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I'm a huge fan of the regular TSX sedan but I saw a wagon in person a few days back and I'm up in the air about it. I think I still prefer the sedan. The dealership had 3-4 on the lot but I only took this picture:
#2965
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Id take it was a 6MT over the SH-AWD.
But I wouldnt complain if it had both + a V6.
But I wouldnt complain if it had both + a V6.
#2966
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^That would be awesome BUT I would rather see the regular V6 sedan get the 6-speed.
#2967
#2970
Whats up with RDX owners?
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That Mugen wing on the sedan looks horrible.
But Ill take the Tourer any day of the week.
But Ill take the Tourer any day of the week.
#2971
Good thing someone quoted SSFTSX.... cause damn this looks good.
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i saw one of the black wagons in person tonight. looks pretty slick.
#2973
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I must admit, I got to drive and sit in the Wagon and in person is a Great looking car. I really liked it.
#2974
I'm the Firestarter
I have to go to Acura and check it out, park my Avant next to it.
#2975
http://www.carkeys.co.uk/launches/ho...cord_2011.aspx
The new Honda Accord, due to go on sale in the UK in July 1 priced from £21,695, isn't so very different from the model it will replace. The changes amount to a mid-life update, and perhaps the most significant of them is the fact that more cars in the range officially emit less than 160g/km of CO2, which as business customers will know is the Write Down Allowance threshold.
Some mild adjustments to the exterior styling make the 2011 Accord look slightly sharper than its predecessor, and there's no doubt that the car is well-equipped. Even the most basic examples are fitted with 17" alloy wheels, cruise control, Vehicle Stability Assist and connectivity for Bluetooth, MP3 players and iPods as standard.
By the time you get to the range-topping Type S, you're offered 18" wheels, satellite navigation, active cornering lights and high-beam support (which dips the headlights for you when the car senses another one is ahead of it at night) without having to explore the options list, though you do have to pay £29,400 for all this, or £30,755 if you've chosen the Tourer estate body style rather than the saloon.
The Type S also has a more powerful 178bhp version of the 2.2-litre i-DTEC turbo diesel engine which elsewhere in the range produces a maximum of 148bhp. This might be described as a mixed blessing. Most diesels with 178bhp or so perform very strongly at low revs, but the i-DTEC doesn't. If you want to go quickly, you're going to have to work it quite hard, to the extent that you might almost be as well with a petrol engine under the bonnet.
Another peculiarity of the Type S is that, although it's not especially sporty, its steering is incredibly sharp. On several occasions during a short run over some back roads at the media launch in Northern Ireland I found myself turning in to a corner, then releasing the steering as I headed towards a verge, then make a second turn almost immediately afterwards, simply because I wasn't prepared for the front end of the car to react as quickly as it did. Nothing else about the Type S makes you think it's going to behave like this, so it takes some getting used to.
I also tried a 148bhp diesel ES GT, on the basis that Honda reckons this will be the best-seller in the range. It reacted more in the manner I was expecting, which was a relief, but in both cars I suspected that the people who set up the front suspension never spoke to the people who set up the rear during the development process. On bumpy roads (and there seems to be no shortage of those within a 15-mile radius of Coleraine) the ride quality of the Accord might charitably be described as odd. Perhaps it's better on smoother tarmac.
When Honda first started fitting diesel engines to the Accord, they suffered badly from an immensely irritating whine from the alternator drive. To my great relief this has been eradicated completely - not, frankly, before time.
Two more trim levels not already mentioned are called ES and EX, and the engine line-up includes 2.0 and 2.4 i-VTEC petrol units, the latter offered only in the EX. Automatic transmission is offered as an option on all models except the Type S, which is manual-only.
The new Honda Accord, due to go on sale in the UK in July 1 priced from £21,695, isn't so very different from the model it will replace. The changes amount to a mid-life update, and perhaps the most significant of them is the fact that more cars in the range officially emit less than 160g/km of CO2, which as business customers will know is the Write Down Allowance threshold.
Some mild adjustments to the exterior styling make the 2011 Accord look slightly sharper than its predecessor, and there's no doubt that the car is well-equipped. Even the most basic examples are fitted with 17" alloy wheels, cruise control, Vehicle Stability Assist and connectivity for Bluetooth, MP3 players and iPods as standard.
By the time you get to the range-topping Type S, you're offered 18" wheels, satellite navigation, active cornering lights and high-beam support (which dips the headlights for you when the car senses another one is ahead of it at night) without having to explore the options list, though you do have to pay £29,400 for all this, or £30,755 if you've chosen the Tourer estate body style rather than the saloon.
The Type S also has a more powerful 178bhp version of the 2.2-litre i-DTEC turbo diesel engine which elsewhere in the range produces a maximum of 148bhp. This might be described as a mixed blessing. Most diesels with 178bhp or so perform very strongly at low revs, but the i-DTEC doesn't. If you want to go quickly, you're going to have to work it quite hard, to the extent that you might almost be as well with a petrol engine under the bonnet.
Another peculiarity of the Type S is that, although it's not especially sporty, its steering is incredibly sharp. On several occasions during a short run over some back roads at the media launch in Northern Ireland I found myself turning in to a corner, then releasing the steering as I headed towards a verge, then make a second turn almost immediately afterwards, simply because I wasn't prepared for the front end of the car to react as quickly as it did. Nothing else about the Type S makes you think it's going to behave like this, so it takes some getting used to.
I also tried a 148bhp diesel ES GT, on the basis that Honda reckons this will be the best-seller in the range. It reacted more in the manner I was expecting, which was a relief, but in both cars I suspected that the people who set up the front suspension never spoke to the people who set up the rear during the development process. On bumpy roads (and there seems to be no shortage of those within a 15-mile radius of Coleraine) the ride quality of the Accord might charitably be described as odd. Perhaps it's better on smoother tarmac.
When Honda first started fitting diesel engines to the Accord, they suffered badly from an immensely irritating whine from the alternator drive. To my great relief this has been eradicated completely - not, frankly, before time.
Two more trim levels not already mentioned are called ES and EX, and the engine line-up includes 2.0 and 2.4 i-VTEC petrol units, the latter offered only in the EX. Automatic transmission is offered as an option on all models except the Type S, which is manual-only.
#2976
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The Type S also has a more powerful 178bhp version of the 2.2-litre i-DTEC turbo diesel engine which elsewhere in the range produces a maximum of 148bhp. This might be described as a mixed blessing. Most diesels with 178bhp or so perform very strongly at low revs, but the i-DTEC doesn't. If you want to go quickly, you're going to have to work it quite hard, to the extent that you might almost be as well with a petrol engine under the bonnet.
I still don't get why Honda is not offering diesels in the US.
#2977
What I really don't get is why they haven't made direct injection work for them when more and more manufacturers are continually implementing it into their engines as time goes on. When optimized I don't see how a DI engine would be less efficient than an otherwise virtually identical non-DI engine.
Coupled with their new 6AT Acura would likely be able to boast about being the first luxury automaker to have a 300 horsepower, 30+mpg 6-cylinder engine, I believe.
#2978
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What I really don't get is why they haven't made direct injection work for them when more and more manufacturers are continually implementing it into their engines as time goes on. When optimized I don't see how a DI engine would be less efficient than an otherwise virtually identical non-DI engine.
#2979
Must be the infrastructure. Same reason why other manufacturers don't offer as many diesels as they do in Europe/Asia. Not too sure about Asia, but I know in Europe they tend to like diesels much more than we do. I'd be all for it personally.
What I really don't get is why they haven't made direct injection work for them when more and more manufacturers are continually implementing it into their engines as time goes on. When optimized I don't see how a DI engine would be less efficient than an otherwise virtually identical non-DI engine.
Coupled with their new 6AT Acura would likely be able to boast about being the first luxury automaker to have a 300 horsepower, 30+mpg 6-cylinder engine, I believe.
What I really don't get is why they haven't made direct injection work for them when more and more manufacturers are continually implementing it into their engines as time goes on. When optimized I don't see how a DI engine would be less efficient than an otherwise virtually identical non-DI engine.
Coupled with their new 6AT Acura would likely be able to boast about being the first luxury automaker to have a 300 horsepower, 30+mpg 6-cylinder engine, I believe.
Fullly loaded VW Jetta TDI cost close to $27K (not even leather) and it does not have fraction of Euro Accord built quality and refinement.
In EU 2.4 and 2.2 Type S has nearly identical prices. If Acura offers diesel TSX at $36K loaded it would sell pretty well for those who drive high mileage.
#2980
6G TLX-S
I just hate to hear words like delayed, postponed, and canceled, which have been used rather often with Honda lately.
#2981
i wouldn't have seen it either
but the clear headlights clean up the car's overall look and that shade of blue is really nice.
headlight design is one area where Acura is really being left behind in the dust. I don't expect them to jump on the LED bandwagon, but they need to take a look at what even Hyundai is doing with their headlights.
but the clear headlights clean up the car's overall look and that shade of blue is really nice.
headlight design is one area where Acura is really being left behind in the dust. I don't expect them to jump on the LED bandwagon, but they need to take a look at what even Hyundai is doing with their headlights.
#2982
whats wrong with acura headlights ?_?
#2983
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Tried to test-drive a wagon but my dealer sold the last one they had, and aren't due to get another for a month. The worst part is, they are a high-volume Acura dealer and their expected wagon volume is low.....and the earthquake made supply worse.
I will go out on a limb and say that the TSX wagon is the best-looking current Acura. The relatively high-revving I4 that's so gas efficient is icing. Don't need a V6, though I do wish there were a stick. I know not many would buy one with a stick, but I would do it.
I will go out on a limb and say that the TSX wagon is the best-looking current Acura. The relatively high-revving I4 that's so gas efficient is icing. Don't need a V6, though I do wish there were a stick. I know not many would buy one with a stick, but I would do it.
#2984
Truth about car review. Usually the most harshest critic of Acura but now alteast they agree V6 is simply better and price justify the premium feel/acceleration
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...-acura-tsx-v6/
TSX wagon in white.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...-acura-tsx-v6/
TSX wagon in white.
Last edited by SSFTSX; 04-25-2011 at 12:53 AM.
#2985
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Saw one on the road yesterday...I want one!
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I think this weekend I might see if the local dealer has one as I want to test drive it.
#2989
The sizzle in the Steak
Have yet to see one on the road.
#2993
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Merged...
#2994
Team Owner
Honda made a TSX Wagan before they make a TSX Coupe...
#2996
You can plan on receiving another allocation next week. In this allocation, you will see that our volumes for July 2011 will be 15% stronger than June 2011. The August allocation in mid-June is going to be even better than July. As we have stated before, we hit our low point and we are now moving ahead with increased production capacity.
Last edited by Colin; 05-20-2011 at 02:17 PM.
#2998
TSX wagon is taller and heavier than Sedan. I expect sedan will get 10% better at higher speeds.
http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...-mpg.html#more
2011 Acura TSX Wagon: Excellent Highway MPG
I'm late in updating you all, but last week, I drove 800 miles in our 2011 Acura TSX wagon. On the trip north to Half Moon Bay, California, I was hurried, slavishly monitoring the radar detector, driving with no regard for efficiency. Well, here's how that shaped out:
461.7 miles --> 16.760 gallons of 91 octane --> 27.5 mpg
On the way back, though, at your suggestion, I decided to do a fuel economy run, limiting my speed and smoothing my throttle inputs to maximize mpg. I remember someone suggested a 65-mph pace, but that's not realistic on Interstate 5 where the limit is posted at 70 mph and the vibe among motorists is decidedly unrelaxed. So I picked 70 mph as my speed and tried to stay close to that (obviously I had to go slower on certain portions of CA Highway 152 between U.S. 101 and I-5).
Make the jump to see how old leadfoot did.
342.3 miles --> 10.521 gallons of 91 octane --> 32.5 mpg!!
To review, the 2011 TSX wagon is rated at 22 mpg city/30 mpg highway/25 mpg combined.
Cruising at 70 was not the most comfortable pace because of the contentious environment among motorists and truckers on I-5. I would often go up to 75 mph briefly when passing trucks to lessen the severity of the tailgating behind me. Had this been a purely recreational drive, I would have just cruised at 75 mph, even at the expense of a couple mpg.
Still, the fact that I got 32.5 mpg speaks to what a few you have been saying about the TSX wagon's appeal as a fuel-efficient entry-level luxury car. This wagon has more appeal for me now that I know what kind of mpg it can lay down if I'm disciplined and unhurried.
Erin Riches, Senior Editor @ 6,951 miles
http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...-mpg.html#more
2011 Acura TSX Wagon: Excellent Highway MPG
I'm late in updating you all, but last week, I drove 800 miles in our 2011 Acura TSX wagon. On the trip north to Half Moon Bay, California, I was hurried, slavishly monitoring the radar detector, driving with no regard for efficiency. Well, here's how that shaped out:
461.7 miles --> 16.760 gallons of 91 octane --> 27.5 mpg
On the way back, though, at your suggestion, I decided to do a fuel economy run, limiting my speed and smoothing my throttle inputs to maximize mpg. I remember someone suggested a 65-mph pace, but that's not realistic on Interstate 5 where the limit is posted at 70 mph and the vibe among motorists is decidedly unrelaxed. So I picked 70 mph as my speed and tried to stay close to that (obviously I had to go slower on certain portions of CA Highway 152 between U.S. 101 and I-5).
Make the jump to see how old leadfoot did.
342.3 miles --> 10.521 gallons of 91 octane --> 32.5 mpg!!
To review, the 2011 TSX wagon is rated at 22 mpg city/30 mpg highway/25 mpg combined.
Cruising at 70 was not the most comfortable pace because of the contentious environment among motorists and truckers on I-5. I would often go up to 75 mph briefly when passing trucks to lessen the severity of the tailgating behind me. Had this been a purely recreational drive, I would have just cruised at 75 mph, even at the expense of a couple mpg.
Still, the fact that I got 32.5 mpg speaks to what a few you have been saying about the TSX wagon's appeal as a fuel-efficient entry-level luxury car. This wagon has more appeal for me now that I know what kind of mpg it can lay down if I'm disciplined and unhurried.
Erin Riches, Senior Editor @ 6,951 miles
#3000
AB review.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/29/2...iew-road-test/
To sum up: one of the best FWD chassis setups. the interior could use some work, tho.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/29/2...iew-road-test/
To sum up: one of the best FWD chassis setups. the interior could use some work, tho.