Acura: TSX News
09-01-2011, 06:17 PM
#3082
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The last 'Special Edition' that was special was on the Accord 20 years ago.
09-01-2011, 06:24 PM
#3083
I'm Craig
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The 2G TSX is a nice looking car, the added goodies on the SE make it look nicer. In my ideal world, I'd have all the stuff from this SE thing (minus the badge and wheels) and put it on a TSX V6. The body kit and seats look really nice.
09-01-2011, 06:46 PM
#3084
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09-01-2011, 07:18 PM
#3085
My wifes parents owned a 2001 or 2002 Special Edition Honda Accord. It was basically a base model accord with a few extra feature like a moonroof, spoiler, and alloy wheels. so, historically speaking, the TSX SE spec sheet shouldn't be a surprise.
As for the features:
-Would rather these dark wheels over the V6 OEMs
-Love the seat material
-Like the aero-kit (wont have to spend the big bucks to get the a-spec)
-Comes in 6mt, which is perfect since I wont even consider the 5at
-Love the colour, and it makes this car somewhat unique in terms of 2g TSXs
-No Nav? bUT i can live with that since I live in a small town and use my Garmin or iPhone when required
-Price? Shouldnt be too much more than a base TSX?
As for the features:
-Would rather these dark wheels over the V6 OEMs
-Love the seat material
-Like the aero-kit (wont have to spend the big bucks to get the a-spec)
-Comes in 6mt, which is perfect since I wont even consider the 5at
-Love the colour, and it makes this car somewhat unique in terms of 2g TSXs
-No Nav? bUT i can live with that since I live in a small town and use my Garmin or iPhone when required
-Price? Shouldnt be too much more than a base TSX?
09-01-2011, 07:39 PM
#3086
I'm Craig
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My wifes parents owned a 2001 or 2002 Special Edition Honda Accord. It was basically a base model accord with a few extra feature like a moonroof, spoiler, and alloy wheels. so, historically speaking, the TSX SE spec sheet shouldn't be a surprise.
As for the features:
-Would rather these dark wheels over the V6 OEMs
-Love the seat material
-Like the aero-kit (wont have to spend the big bucks to get the a-spec)
-Comes in 6mt, which is perfect since I wont even consider the 5at
-Love the colour, and it makes this car somewhat unique in terms of 2g TSXs
-No Nav? bUT i can live with that since I live in a small town and use my Garmin or iPhone when required
-Price? Shouldnt be too much more than a base TSX?
As for the features:
-Would rather these dark wheels over the V6 OEMs
-Love the seat material
-Like the aero-kit (wont have to spend the big bucks to get the a-spec)
-Comes in 6mt, which is perfect since I wont even consider the 5at
-Love the colour, and it makes this car somewhat unique in terms of 2g TSXs
-No Nav? bUT i can live with that since I live in a small town and use my Garmin or iPhone when required
-Price? Shouldnt be too much more than a base TSX?
09-01-2011, 08:22 PM
#3087
6G TLX-S
09-16-2011, 06:33 PM
#3088
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...an-and-wagon/1
Honda's Acura is boosting the price of its 2012 TSX sports sedan and Sport Wagon by $200 across the lineup. The near-luxury brand is also adding a sport edition.
The latest TSX sports sedan will start at $29,810.
"With a sub-$30,000 starting point, the Acura TSX represents a great value for customers entering the luxury market," said Jeff Conrad, vice president of Acura sales.
The 2012 TSX Special Edition package will include features like a more aggressive front spoiler, rear bumper fascia and side sills. There will be five-spoke aluminum wheels with a dark gray finish and a "Special Edition" badge on the trunklid.
Inside, the TSX Special Edition will have perforated black fake suede inserts and red backing, with red stitching and red lighting inside as well. It will come with a six-speed manual or five-speed automatic transmission. The price is $30,810.
The TSX V-6 is priced at $35,350. The TSX Sport Wagon starts at $31,160 and an available Technology Package is priced at $3,650, including a power rear tailgate. Destination and Handling charges for all TSX models are unchanged at $885.
The TSX and TSX Sport Wagon go on sale today with the new Special Edition model available at the end of the month.
The latest TSX sports sedan will start at $29,810.
"With a sub-$30,000 starting point, the Acura TSX represents a great value for customers entering the luxury market," said Jeff Conrad, vice president of Acura sales.
The 2012 TSX Special Edition package will include features like a more aggressive front spoiler, rear bumper fascia and side sills. There will be five-spoke aluminum wheels with a dark gray finish and a "Special Edition" badge on the trunklid.
Inside, the TSX Special Edition will have perforated black fake suede inserts and red backing, with red stitching and red lighting inside as well. It will come with a six-speed manual or five-speed automatic transmission. The price is $30,810.
The TSX V-6 is priced at $35,350. The TSX Sport Wagon starts at $31,160 and an available Technology Package is priced at $3,650, including a power rear tailgate. Destination and Handling charges for all TSX models are unchanged at $885.
The TSX and TSX Sport Wagon go on sale today with the new Special Edition model available at the end of the month.
09-22-2011, 08:08 PM
#3093
305 hp v6, SH-AWD, 6 speed manual.my idea of a special edition TSX.even if more people opt for the 4 cyl i dont see the point in a whole new car for special paint and kits that slightly change the appearence.just my opinion. correct me if im wrong but isn't the current TSX at 201hp and the SE is supposed to have 200hp?is that people rounding off the hp or those gonna be the actual specs?even tho 1hp makes no difference what so ever on road, on paper less hp and no nav doesn't seem to fit the title of a "special edition" car
09-22-2011, 09:03 PM
#3094
Burning Brakes
305 hp v6, SH-AWD, 6 speed manual.my idea of a special edition TSX.even if more people opt for the 4 cyl i dont see the point in a whole new car for special paint and kits that slightly change the appearence.just my opinion. correct me if im wrong but isn't the current TSX at 201hp and the SE is supposed to have 200hp?is that people rounding off the hp or those gonna be the actual specs?even tho 1hp makes no difference what so ever on road, on paper less hp and no nav doesn't seem to fit the title of a "special edition" car
09-22-2011, 11:19 PM
#3095
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SE never equalled Type-S or Type-R. Think of past Honda products that wore the SE badge. It was always cosmetic and added value.
And it has the same 201Hp that the regular car does.
And it has the same 201Hp that the regular car does.
09-23-2011, 09:04 AM
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09-23-2011, 10:44 AM
#3097
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^ Yup, I've seen some photos and analysis on that before on TOV. Not sure if it meant for SH-AWD or not...but the 2g TSX is entering its 4th year of production..so..I doubt that we will see a Type S model, let alone a model with SH-AWD.
09-23-2011, 12:09 PM
#3098
When the current exchange rate with Japan, I'd imagine a SH-AWD TSX would cost more than the TL.
09-24-2011, 08:43 AM
#3099
I'm the Firestarter
This SE is exactly like an Audi S-Line package but done on the cheap:
- Suede seats, check
- Black headliner, check
- Sportier bumpers, check
- No seat bolsters
- No larger wheels (which this car BADLY needs)
- No sport suspension
So, typical Acura.
- Suede seats, check
- Black headliner, check
- Sportier bumpers, check
- No seat bolsters
- No larger wheels (which this car BADLY needs)
- No sport suspension
So, typical Acura.
09-26-2011, 06:21 PM
#3101
6G TLX-S
Just wish that Acura (Honda) can release a Power Kit like BMW for real performance, not just for appearance.
09-26-2011, 06:29 PM
#3102
6G TLX-S
Think of it as a TSX Type-R, with comparable performance to the 1M and the previously-available RS3, then it should cost more than the TL.
09-26-2011, 06:30 PM
#3103
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09-26-2011, 07:29 PM
#3104
09-26-2011, 08:17 PM
#3105
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BMW is offering one for its 335i and 135i. I have no idea whether Honda has ever offered such a thing, but I smell a trend here with BMW and I don't see Honda/Acura jumping on this one.
09-26-2011, 08:21 PM
#3106
Are the 3.5 and 3.7 similar to the k20/k24 in terms of having compatible heads? or are they completely different monsters all together?
I'd pay 35-40k for a sh-awd v6 tsx, as long as it still didn't come with stupid 17 in rims.
09-26-2011, 08:46 PM
#3107
Whats up with RDX owners?
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J35/37 = 6 cylinder.
The TSX V6 uses the J35. I dont see it being difficult per se to mount the TL underpinnings to a TSX. It would definitely cost a lot though. But an AWD small(ish) sedan with a V6 and hopefully a 6MT......oh wait this is Acura.
09-26-2011, 08:46 PM
#3108
While is fun to dream, realistically, such a vehicle would never sell for the same reason all 40K plus Acura sedans sell poorly. Once we cross a certain threshold, most buyers will say "If I'm going to pay 40K plus for an Acura, I might was well buy [insert BMW, Mercedes, Lexus] of choice."
09-26-2011, 08:54 PM
#3109
While is fun to dream, realistically, such a vehicle would never sell for the same reason all 40K plus Acura sedans sell poorly. Once we cross a certain threshold, most buyers will say "If I'm going to pay 40K plus for an Acura, I might was well buy [insert BMW, Mercedes, Lexus] of choice."
which is why i couldn't pull the trigger on a new TL, almost 50k I can have a...
used z06, exige, nsx, gen3 TL + 04 elise, speed6 + new civic, new SI + new speed3, bmw 335d, used RS4, used M3, used M5...etc etc. I just couldn't justify.
09-26-2011, 09:40 PM
#3110
Short of the MT, this already exists. The RL is a smallish AWD Sedan with 300+ hp that is chock full of things most people don't even know about. Things like aluminum for the chassis subframes, suspension, fenders, hood, and trunklid. A carbon fiber driveshaft, and the only SH system with a planetary gearset that allows for up to 5.7% (variable) outside wheel overdrive.
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09-27-2011, 02:19 AM
#3111
6G TLX-S
Short of the MT, this already exists. The RL is a smallish AWD Sedan with 300+ hp that is chock full of things most people don't even know about. Things like aluminum for the chassis subframes, suspension, fenders, hood, and trunklid. A carbon fiber driveshaft, and the only SH system with a planetary gearset that allows for up to 5.7% (variable) outside wheel overdrive.
09-27-2011, 02:43 AM
#3112
The RL needs to go, its a dying beast.
The TL i think is actually a really good value for the money, as is the TSX. The TL (2012 lets say) has alotta shit, is very fast when tracked against its rivals, and has a very apt SHAWD system.
What the TSX needs isnt a v6, it already has a good chassis, it just needs some suspension work to tighten it up, and some forced induction to bring it up past 200hp into the ~240-50 range. If they could do all this while cutting enough weight to add a shawd system without making it a heavy beast...
The TL i think is actually a really good value for the money, as is the TSX. The TL (2012 lets say) has alotta shit, is very fast when tracked against its rivals, and has a very apt SHAWD system.
What the TSX needs isnt a v6, it already has a good chassis, it just needs some suspension work to tighten it up, and some forced induction to bring it up past 200hp into the ~240-50 range. If they could do all this while cutting enough weight to add a shawd system without making it a heavy beast...
09-27-2011, 04:17 AM
#3113
Marketing I'm not sure, but the design was/is all the Japanese. The Americans wanted a V-8 and RWD. The guys in Japan wanted to do it the 'traditional Honda way' by going after the competition with a smaller engine and tech. Funny how so many on this forum are so uninformed on which teams are responsible for what cars success' and failures.
Lightness costs money. The TSX is already 3400 lbs and the addition of AWD would add ~250. A more powerful engine means a heavier transmission, beefier suspension, (assumed) larger wheels all add up. Before you know it, you're at 4000 lbs just like the RL. AND look what the AWD, made in Japan, RL costs. The TSX is what it is, but the last thing it needs is more cost added. Especially when there are other cars in the lineup 'above' it that do the same thing.
Lightness costs money. The TSX is already 3400 lbs and the addition of AWD would add ~250. A more powerful engine means a heavier transmission, beefier suspension, (assumed) larger wheels all add up. Before you know it, you're at 4000 lbs just like the RL. AND look what the AWD, made in Japan, RL costs. The TSX is what it is, but the last thing it needs is more cost added. Especially when there are other cars in the lineup 'above' it that do the same thing.
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09-27-2011, 06:37 AM
#3114
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09-27-2011, 08:55 AM
#3115
Senior Moderator
Marketing I'm not sure, but the design was/is all the Japanese. The Americans wanted a V-8 and RWD. The guys in Japan wanted to do it the 'traditional Honda way' by going after the competition with a smaller engine and tech. Funny how so many on this forum are so uninformed on which teams are responsible for what cars success' and failures.
Having said that, how are most supposed to know who's responsible for what? I don't think Honda passes that information around in a press release? Or do they?
09-27-2011, 10:37 AM
#3116
Remember, BMW is not held to the same CAFE requirments as other car companies. BMW has a few more years to "catchup", then the government will hold BMW to the same standards as other car companies.
09-27-2011, 11:16 AM
#3117
Moderator
Oh, and, I doubt very much BMW will stop making its performance vehicles and options due to CAFE. That's not a very sound argument you're drumming up in a weak effort to defend your favorite manufacturer.
09-27-2011, 11:20 AM
#3118
Huh? Why is it that BMW is supposedly getting a pass and everyone else isn't?
Oh, and, I doubt very much BMW will stop making its performance vehicles and options due to CAFE. That's not a very sound argument you're drumming up in a weak effort to defend your favorite manufacturer.
Oh, and, I doubt very much BMW will stop making its performance vehicles and options due to CAFE. That's not a very sound argument you're drumming up in a weak effort to defend your favorite manufacturer.
http://www.luxurywatchesoutlet.info/...e-regulations/
What's the final verdict?
09-27-2011, 11:25 AM
#3119
Senior Moderator
No, they won't stop making performance cars. The difference is, they'll ALSO make more fuel efficient vehicles alongside those performance cars while Honda has pretty much chosen to abandon performance altogether.
09-27-2011, 11:27 AM
#3120
Let me guess, like most bitching about EVERYTHING Honda does, you drive a Civic.