Hapa DC5

Eh why do I even bother? Back on mute you go......

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

I wouldnt be surprised if the 35mpg figure is the instant fuel economy figure from the dashboard and not the correct mpg figure (fuel used vs distance driven).

Hapa DC5

lol if that's the case I'll make my Fit go 80mpg!

SSFTSX

Yup its BS now since it does not support your conclcusion.
thecarconnection has clearly said they dont suppor G37 EPA figures based on there driving experiance.
Every one has different driving style.
so if you r getting higher than EPA on G37. it is more than likely you will get even higher on TSX V-6. as TSX beat EPA figures on Carconnection.
2011 TSX will be on top of that. and Carconnection is not one.
Look at C&D TSX beats EPA figures with almost as efficient at 6speed VW CC 2.0T. which is rated 4mpg higher than TSX V-6 on EPA. TSX has clear record of getting much higher mpg than EPA.

HondaOnWORKS

If an inline 4 TSX is able to do 40 MPG, I think a V6 TSX can pull off 35 MPG with the right driving style. I think I can say that the Inline 4 TSX MPG surpasses the G25's MPG, and probably the best in its class in terms of MPG even with a 5AT.

ghttf

is that 40 mpg over .4 miles

Costco

^good catch


Maybe at the top of a big hill he reset the mileage indicator then proceeded to roll down the hill and take a pic?

HondaOnWORKS

So my friend rolled down the hill at 60MPH? Right...

The picture was taken during the trip back up to the bay area, and I assume he might have reset the mileage indicator during the trip.

Logically, you can't even get 40 MPG while going at 60 MPH over a distance of .4miles.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

If he reset the mileage indicator, the the MPG would reset along with it. Unless of course thats the instant fuel economy number which should be taken with a grain of salt because you roll down hill with the car in neutral it will max out.

HondaOnWORKS

It might be the instant fuel economy #, but correct if I'm reading your comment wrong.

I'm not sure if you are saying the car is in neutral, but how can it be neutral? Hes going 60 MPH in the picture, and you want to explain how can you get to 60 MPH in neutral?

Hapa DC5

I would sure as hell hope an I4 would get better gas mileage then the G25.

40mpg over .4 miles? Try again........

Hapa DC5

"average fuel B 40mpg" trip B .4 miles.

Hapa DC5

In every manual car I've ever owned I could coast in neutral at any speed. You accelerate up to speed shift it to neutral reset the trip and voila. It's magic.

I believe the TSX you posted is a 5AT (the far left of the pic an indicator for m mode). You can reset the trip and the corresponding mpg indicator will reset as well.

Hapa DC5

Here's my Fit on a trip last year, pic of instant mpg with the average. I was doing about 70mph with a loaded car full of gifts, the dog, my girl, snow boards, luggage etc.

pttl

The fuel economy number can be fabricated easily.

All you need is a stretch of highway with a small downhill grade. Get your speed up, (you don't need to be in neutral) hit the reset button for the fuel economy, keep your foot off the gas, or lightly touching it, and you will get astronomical numbers. I've done it in my TL where I've seen 60 mpg. It's really not difficult to do.

vybzkartel

When the trip meter(the 0.4 showing) reaches 999.9 miles, don't it automatically reset to 0.0?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

HondaOnWORKS

That's obvious, for manual... >_> His car is an automatic, so you are suggesting he got up to 60 then neutral dropped his automatic to go down hill? I don't think anyone is stupid enough to be at 60 MPH right before a hill.

HondaOnWORKS

There are other pictures of him doing 35~37 MPG... I don't think he would waste his time making fake MPG pictures to show. Why would anyone waste their time?

ghttf

https://acurazine.com/forums/search....archid=4098576


I think it goes up to 9999.9 miles

Hapa DC5

No, you're misreading this as usual. I'm suggesting he reset the trip. Looked and said holy shit not bad 40mpg I'll snap a pic.

Then you come on, post the pic and spread it as truth.

That's all.

vybzkartel

Yup! I've resetted the trip meter('03 MDX) on the highway, and I've seen 28-30mpg. We all know the MDX was rated 23mpg on the highway!

Hapa DC5

I believe you're right, but to AVERAGE 40mpg over 1000 miles of driving seems next to impossible.

HondaOnWORKS

Well before hand I was talking about hills and neutral, so I kinda assumed you were too?

How do you know its even fake anyways? It can be truthful, because he has other pictures in the 35~37 MPG range, with over 70+ miles on the indicator.

Hapa DC5

The fact that there is only .4 miles on the trip would be that the 40mpg was for a very very short distance.

I don't think that pic is fake at all. I just don't believe the car maintained 40mpg for the duration of the trip.

SSFTSX

Trip B automatically resets after 9999 unless some one reset it. Car is at over 60mph. it takes certain distance to reach 0-60mph.
TSX memorizes avg mile per gallon based on previous trip. so it means that trip meter was reset after drivng for alteast 20 minutes. (it takes engine to warm up for optimal efficiency).

SSFTSX

SSFTSX

This V6 TSX. look at red line of rpm. Add 2mpg combined for 2011 model. and on top of that replace OEM rims with lighter A-Spec rims with Advan sport tires. and see fuel economy. It will be better than G37 Sport by 5mpg.

Hapa DC5

So it'll get 33mpg not 35mpg right according to your whacked out math. "We're talking real world numbers not EPA." You vapor race cars like you magazine race to try and find one sentence out of a whole article that would support your view.

Hapa DC5

Can anybody provide proof of this? My TL and Fit both reset mpg after I reset the trip on those cars.

SSFTSX

Article clearlys state they are not able to get EPA figures. and you got 28mpg on G37. so there is 3 to 4 mpg difference between your driving and article.
so the article dont support 26mpg while your at 28mpg. so it is more than likely you will be getting above 30mpg with TSX V6.

Even TL SH-AWD is better by 2 mpg than G37.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...fdee60f558.pdf

Hapa DC5

You said 35mpg don't back pedal on us.

SSFTSX

that is for 2011 TSX. 2 mpg improvement in EPA is more than likely to be 4mpg improvment. in real driving. 35mpg is pretty much doable.
Honda mpg improvement does not go linear with EPA.

Edward'TLS

Again and again, I have said that Honda/Acura was falling behind the competitors in terms of engine technology, tranny technology, IMA technology, diesel technology, etc.

I'm always looking at the big picture. I'm looking for progress in respect with the whole auto industry, against leading auto industry benchmarks; and not for minute progress in respect with outgoing in-house models, as like working inside a nutshell.

Please remember that, for the competitors, their newer models will also improve upon their outgoing in-house models. So unless Acura sets it's target on industry benchmark, it will still be so much behind the others.

Acura was once class-leading in NA V6 with it's 260hp 3.2L-V6, and was again class-leading 5 years ago with it's SH-AWD. What happens afterwards ? Nothing.

Now 10 years later, Acura is lagging behind in output hp for it's V6. Now 5 years later, other auto makers have caught up with their own versions of torque-vectoring SH-AWD. Also, Acura is starting to catch up to apply 6-speed auto boxes when the leading auto makers are using 7/8-speed auto boxes. Did I miss any progress with respect to the auto benchmarks ?

But on the other hand, Acura is making progress, when compared against it's outgoing in-house models. Things like adding a mere 5hp to the 3.7L-V6, and starting to apply 6-speed auto boxes. But this is too little, too late. What good is it that when the product is only better than it's own company's outgoing in-house models, and not better than the industry benchmarks ?

At this moment, even on par with the industry benchmark with a 330hp 3.7L-V6 J-series, or a dual-clutch auto box would considered progress.

I hardly think it is called progress when Honda keeps announced future products/features (next NSX, RWD, V8, next flagship RL), but to cancel or continuous delaying them.

Yes, Acura still doesn't seem to have a clear direction. You don't just create some jargon name "Smart Luxury" which doesn't mean anything to confuse buyers. Is Acura going to become Audi, or BMW, or MB, or Lexus, or Infiniti, or Hyundai, or Toyota ? This is a much down-to-earth direction that earth people can understand.

pttl

^
Listen.....you can hear the "Honda/Acura Fanclub Defense Team" running down the hallway to babble about fuel economy, aerodynamics and NVH.

Very succinct post btw.

Crazy Bimmer

Ugh, are we really arguing about a few MPG differences?

Anyways, since this is an ACURA forum i figured the TSX section would be a good place to find real world MPG stats.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highway&page=4

Seems on average people getting 31mpg highway. Not sure why people like to brag about the MID readouts, they seem to read high according to that thread.

Shift_Acura

No offense but you are just throwing out words like Direct Injection and Dual Clutch transmissions without explaining or even suggesting how they should be used or implemented to improve products.

A Cadillac CTS has DI engine but it still makes almost the same HP as the J-Series in the TL. A 335i has twin turbo's and still makes less HP than most of its competitors. I guess than means it has a smaller penis?

Does torque affect your penis size or are you just concerned with HP? G37 and S4 have the most powerful 6's in their class and 7 AT transmissions. Why buy any other cars?

An MB C350 has 268hp, I guess its just a POS because it doesn't have GDI or an Automated manual hydraulically actuated quadruple clutch transmission

A Ford Fiesta has a dual clutch transmission. How much better does it perform than a 5AT Fit?

And wow at the 330hp benchmark

Hapa DC5

I thought we were always talking about the perspective real world mileage of the '11 not the '10.

Errrr why did I unmute you?

Hapa DC5

They do read high I had to go to the dealer for a reprogramming so now my mpg read outs are less than 3% off of actual fuel economy. It was off by more than 10% before!

anjy834u

Here's one of the latest 2011 TSX galleries that i have seen off late -- http://acura-tsx.org/2011-acura-tsx-pictures-revealed/

SSFTSX

These numbers especially on freeways are meaningless and as dont show number of times passing and merging is executed. If you do 10 times rapid accelaration from 60 to 90mph on I-4 & V6 and compare the result
V6 fuel economy will be better with very little difference in avg speeds.
It is about particular driving style. V-6 give that flexibility of high mpg without penalty of rapid overtaking.