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Old 10-03-2020, 11:55 PM
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SSF is like a Trumper. He lives in an alternate world of “facts” and reality.
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Old 10-03-2020, 11:57 PM
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2021 ACURA TLX FEATURES NEXT GEN AIRBAG AND ACTIVE SAFETY TECH
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2021 ACURA TLX FEATURES NEXT GEN AIRBAG AND ACTIVE SAFETY TECH
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Old 10-04-2020, 12:21 PM
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for those complaining about weight. This car weighs 3500lbs 12 years ago and that with 17inch rims, non-turbo, non-sh-awd, none of electronics.
Since there majority of drivers are becoming SUVs and trucks on road. Car safety need to increase on top of that dealing with road noise of much larger tires that can effectively deal with increasing weight of the car.




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In the latest Talking Cars episode, Consumer Reports isn't particularly impressed in their first drive of the TLX, using terms such as no pizazz and boring to describe the driving experience (the female was a bit more positive, but she's more into comfort than driving dynamics) and everyone used infuriating to describe the touch pad (worse than the Lexus one).

And surprise, surprise, they complained about the weight. Lol
Old 10-04-2020, 12:44 PM
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Consumer reports know nothing about advanced R&D. They pan Lexus GX 460 in 2010 and called it unstable. but It became world most successfulll V8 gasoline vehicle without major upgrades in past 12 years.
The Acura TSX that i posted picture above has more than 150K miles. and with strongest resale value in all car segments.
People will not be influenced for long term sale value.
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Originally Posted by YEH
In the latest Talking Cars episode, Consumer Reports isn't particularly impressed in their first drive of the TLX, using terms such as no pizazz and boring to describe the driving experience (the female was a bit more positive, but she's more into comfort than driving dynamics) and everyone used infuriating to describe the touch pad (worse than the Lexus one).

And surprise, surprise, they complained about the weight. Lol
It's funny, for the better part of a decade, the TL, TLX were great cars which were just ugly. Now, in my opinion, the TLX is a great looking car which is lacking under the hood.

Talking Cars said the same thing we have all been saying for some time: This car needs to be a RWD platform. Most of their competitors are either AWD on all models or RWD.
Old 10-04-2020, 01:49 PM
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bet she owns a 2017. First year models. Had some issues. Subsequent years are reliable. No worse than a bmw.

I have a Stelvio. Another member here @hdcolumbus has a Stelvio and a Giulia.

Yes. They are superior. From the interior design, the best in class zf8 transmission, and best in class handling/driving feel. Alfa makes the most engaging everyday driving cars available today.
Be honest with you, I LOVE the look of the Giulia. There's a blue one that passes my dealership every day. Love the look. The wheels. Whole design. But the reliability threw me off when I saw all the people having problems with it. Especially Car and Driver having their in the shop all the time.
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Originally Posted by Shadow2056
Be honest with you, I LOVE the look of the Giulia. There's a blue one that passes my dealership every day. Love the look. The wheels. Whole design. But the reliability threw me off when I saw all the people having problems with it. Especially Car and Driver having their in the shop all the time.
Reliability isnt much of an issue with them anymore, just the 2017 year. There can be glitches in the system, but I had the same thing with my wife's X3...restart the car and they go away. Worst thing about Alfa is the battery that comes from the factory, they aren't very good and randomly die because of al the active electronics. Replace the battery with a Mopar or better...everything to go. Coming up on the one year anniversary of our Stelvio and its been great. Damn near the most perfect car I've driven. Smiles for miles. The kind of car you look for excuses to go take a drive.
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Especially Car and Driver having their in the shop all the time.
That was the Quadrofoglio model which had more issues, especially as a 2017 being a high performance vehicle. Those, too, are pretty sound these days. Stay away from 2017 and you're good.
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Consumer reports know nothing about advanced R&D. They pan Lexus GX 460 in 2010 and called it unstable. but It became world most successfulll V8 gasoline vehicle without major upgrades in past 12 years.
The Acura TSX that i posted picture above has more than 150K miles. and with strongest resale value in all car segments.
People will not be influenced for long term sale value.
As usual, it's you who is clueless and talking completely out of your arse.

A couple of the guys at CR have built their own track cars and mist of them wrench their daily drivers; highly doubt that you do either.

And what does it really matter?

One should feel the effects/benefits of the R&D on the road, but the TLX was, not surprisingly, ho-hum, due to its size (wheelbase) and weight/weight distribution (can't defeat the laws of physics).

Like have always stated, things like torque vectoring merely somewhat mitigate the issues with a FWD set-up and is not a complete substitute for a proper RWD layout.

A lighter compact RWD with a near 50/50 weight distribution and a shorter WB (more tossable) is just going to be a better handler than an overweight/midsized FWD with 57-43 weight distribution.

Now, if the TLX offered midsize space (to go along with its midsize dimensions), it would be another thing as there are buyers willing to trade driving dynamics for a roomier interior.

But the TLX actually has less room in the rear than the 3 Series, so why not just get the 3 Series if handling is higher up on the list of priorities?

Again, no one gives a rat's arse about resale.

Acura's problem is that it doesn't sell enough higher priced/higher margin vehicles, and despite the jump in MSRP, don't think the new TLX will move the needle much.

That jump in price is going to be a hard pill to swallow for the traditional value oriented Acura buyer (it would be different if the TLX had offered 5 Series type space instead of 3 Series type room).

That's probably why Acura is already offering $3K in incentives, and once the initial rush by Acura loyalists has passed, predict hefty discounting on the TLX.

Raising the price substantially without adding to the value play (interior spsce, class leading interior appointment) is a recipe for disaster in the US lux market.

Lexus did just that with the LS 500 (less interior space, price hike) and sales of the LS have tanked.

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Old 10-04-2020, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by YEH
As usual, it's you who is clueless and talking completely out of your arse.

A couple of the guys at CR have built their own track cars and mist of them wrench their daily drivers; highly doubt that you do either.

And what does it really matter?

One should feel the effects/benefits of the R&D on the road, but the TLX was, not surprisingly, ho-hum, due to its size (wheelbase) and weight/weight distribution (can't defeat the laws of physics).

Like have always stated, things like torque vectoring merely somewhat mitigate the issues with a FWD set-up and is not a complete substitute for a proper RWD layout.

A lighter compact RWD with a near 50/50 weight distribution and a shorter WB (more tossable) is just going to be a better handler than an overweight/midsized FWD with 57-43 weight distribution.

Now, if the TLX offered midsize space (to go along with its midsize dimensions), it would be another thing as there are buyers willing to trade driving dynamics for a roomier interior.

But the TLX actually has less room in the rear than the 3 Series, so why not just get the 3 Series if handling is higher up on the list of priorities?

Again, no one gives a rat's arse about resale.

Acura's problem is that it doesn't sell enough higher priced/higher margin vehicles, and despite the jump in MSRP, don't think the new TLX will move the needle much.

That jump in price is going to be a hard pill to swallow for the traditional value oriented Acura buyer (it would be different if the TLX had offered 5 Series type space instead of 3 Series type room).

That's probably why Acura is already offering $3K in incentives, and once the initial rush by Acura loyalists has passed, predict hefty discounting on the TLX.

Raising the price substantially without adding to the value play (interior spsce, class leading interior appointment) is a recipe for disaster in the US lux market.

Lexus did just that with the LS 500 (less interior space, price hike) and sales of the LS have tanked.
None of your renting matter to Acura TLX sales. as it is not looking to become Uber of cars that carry around rear passengers all the time.


. Acura lease and incentives are competitive with industry and they not give 3 year free maintaince nor run flat tires and its not a imported car. so rise of Euro not impact it. strong residual values Acura can afford incentives to bring lease price down.

2021 BMW 330 also lease for $429
https://www.peterpanbmw.com/lease-and-finance-offers/



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Old 10-04-2020, 07:20 PM
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its confidence about resale value.
https://www.motor1.com/news/447118/2...se-incentives/
That said, a new report from Cars Direct shows it's still quite pricey even with the discount, and it only applies to lease customers. The crux of the deal includes $1,900 in lease cash, with an additional $1,000 bonus for returning Acura customers or shoppers defecting from other brands. Add them up, and it's a maximum discount of $2,900 but only if you want to lease a TLX
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Okay, seriously, what's with the giant pictures that provide no value?
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They go along with the giant wall of gibberish that also provides no value.
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A lighter compact RWD with a near 50/50 weight distribution and a shorter WB (more
tossable) is just going to be a better handler than an overweight/midsized FWD with 57-43 weight distribution.

when you see this kind of stupid statements. that pictures are needed as reminder. Honda R&D has effectively achieved higher Gs and shorter lap runs with Honda Civic type R that has far worse weight distribution and shorter wheel base than TLX-Sh-awd.
She sitll does not understand BMW need performance tires for performance that are wider on back. Only Acura provide combination of luxury ride, long tire life and safety of much larger vehicles.

Only Honda knows high speed economic aerodynamics. It will achieved much higher mpg at higher speed long drives on freeways.


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Let's keep the R&P, and the personal attacks out of it, guys.
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Ohh.. that just reminded me how you achieved your 26mpg at 130mph for hours in your TSX?


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when you see this kind of stupid statements. that pictures are needed as reminder. Honda R&D has effectively achieved higher Gs and shorter lap runs with Honda Civic type R that has far worse weight distribution and shorter wheel base than TLX-Sh-awd.
She sitll does not understand BMW need performance tires for performance that are wider on back. Only Acura provide combination of luxury ride, long tire life and safety of much larger vehicles.

Only Honda knows high speed economic aerodynamics. It will achieved much higher mpg at higher speed long drives on freeways.
Old 10-05-2020, 12:45 PM
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Car was 3 hours in sport mode and still closer to 500mpg range in SH-AWD. This ground breaking high speed aerodynamics.
https://www.edmunds.com/acura/tlx/20...-in-a-day.html
In my opinion, the Sport mode oversight cost me the game. I set a new range record at 486.1 miles with 18 miles haunting me on the DTE meter. I wanted 500. My average was 32.2 mpg, which was higher than the EPA's 31 mpg estimate, but short of our 33.7 mpg best. Dang.
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So that guy was driving 65-70mph on I-40 in Nevada? I am surprised he wasn't rear ended by 10 cars and yes there are construction and traffics. We dont live in a perfect world

That was not ground breaking high speed aero, he was driving 65mph on a highway in the middle of nowhere... I would say that is some low speed aero


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Car was 3 hours in sport mode and still closer to 500mpg range in SH-AWD. This ground breaking high speed aerodynamics.
https://www.edmunds.com/acura/tlx/20...-in-a-day.html
In my opinion, the Sport mode oversight cost me the game. I set a new range record at 486.1 miles with 18 miles haunting me on the DTE meter. I wanted 500. My average was 32.2 mpg, which was higher than the EPA's 31 mpg estimate, but short of our 33.7 mpg best. Dang.
This is stellar marketing. Pure BS
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Old 10-05-2020, 03:40 PM
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So that guy was driving 65-70mph on I-40 in Nevada? I am surprised he wasn't rear ended by 10 cars and yes there are construction and traffics. We dont live in a perfect world

That was not ground breaking high speed aero, he was driving 65mph on a highway in the middle of nowhere... I would say that is some low speed aero
most of there tests are what ever speed limit.
3 hours in sport mode would have put in higher rpm. Acura vehicles have atleast 2 gallons left before its empty. it beats EPA numbers in sport mode. that all it matters.

BMW 540XI that has more modern turbo engine and not sport mode driving North to South. it cannot surpass on long range mpg. it just has bigger tank.
https://www.edmunds.com/bmw/5-series...t/wrap-up.html
"I logged more than 475 miles on one tank of gas during my road trip up to Lake Tahoe. I filled up at the lake, then drove all the way back to Los Angeles with more than 80 (indicated) miles to spare. With the 5 Series' excellent overall comfort, it's nice to know you could cover some real ground with its 18-gallon tank. I stopped only once for coffee and a stretch."
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most of there tests are what ever speed limit.
3 hours in sport mode would have put in higher rpm. Acura vehicles have atleast 2 gallons left before its empty. it beats EPA numbers in sport mode. that all it matters.
if the speed limit is 65mph and one is not accelerating (steady state driving) RPM's will also be constant...ie; not higher.
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most of there tests are what ever speed limit.
3 hours in sport mode would have put in higher rpm. Acura vehicles have atleast 2 gallons left before its empty. it beats EPA numbers in sport mode. that all it matters.

BMW 540XI that has more modern turbo engine and not sport mode driving North to South. it cannot surpass on long range mpg. it just has bigger tank.
https://www.edmunds.com/bmw/5-series...t/wrap-up.html
"I logged more than 475 miles on one tank of gas during my road trip up to Lake Tahoe. I filled up at the lake, then drove all the way back to Los Angeles with more than 80 (indicated) miles to spare. With the 5 Series' excellent overall comfort, it's nice to know you could cover some real ground with its 18-gallon tank. I stopped only once for coffee and a stretch."
BREAKING NEWS!!

Car with less power gets slightly better fuel economy than car with more power!



Those cars were both driven on different routes. The Acura was driven round trip from Santa Monica to the CA-NV-AZ border, which is a a pretty flat route compared to the BMW, which traveled from Santa Monica to Lake Tahoe. Secondly, the BMW has an 18 gallon fuel tank, the Acura has a 17.2 gallon tank. Your source averaged 29mpg (matching EPA ratings), despite driving 68 miles in traffic.

The difference in mpg between the two is even smaller when you take those variables into account, but I understand how that can be difficult for a simple minded person such as yourself.
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I would rather spend 5 hours in a 5 series than a TLX even if I had to stop for gas more often or make three point turns.
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I seriously doubt any 540i owners care about the 1-2 mpg difference in fuel econ....

I used to reset at every fill up to calculate my mpg... as you get older, you got way more important things to worry about than constantly staring at your MPG gauge..
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
BREAKING NEWS!!

Car with less power gets slightly better fuel economy than car with more power!



Those cars were both driven on different routes. The Acura was driven round trip from Santa Monica to the CA-NV-AZ border, which is a a pretty flat route compared to the BMW, which traveled from Santa Monica to Lake Tahoe. Secondly, the BMW has an 18 gallon fuel tank, the Acura has a 17.2 gallon tank. Your source averaged 29mpg (matching EPA ratings), despite driving 68 miles in traffic.

The difference in mpg between the two is even smaller when you take those variables into account, but I understand how that can be difficult for a simple minded person such as yourself.
when you are using sport mode. you are using alot higher rpm. almost driving in 2nd gear all the way to 70mph. This shows that TLX is so refined that people not realized that they are in sport mode.
Honda engines and aerodynamics are superior than competiton.

2018 Honda Accord 2.0T 30mpg long term test.
2019 Genesis G70 2.0T got 26mpg long term test.


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I'm 99.9999% sure the VP at work did not cross-shop the TLX when he bought his 2019 540i MSport.
He almost pulled the trigger on the M3 in the showroom, but went for the comfort of sportiness.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
when you are using sport mode. you are using alot higher rpm. almost driving in 2nd gear all the way to 70mph. This shows that TLX is so refined that people not realized that they are in sport mode.
Honda engines and aerodynamics are superior than competiton.

2018 Honda Accord 2.0T 30mpg long term test.
2019 Genesis G70 2.0T got 26mpg long term test.


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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-maintenance/
Except Sport mode won't hold a lower gear on the highway, it will still enter 9th. Sport+ on the other hand will, but the source you provided specifically stated Sport mode.

And mathematically speaking, there's zero chance the TLX can hit 70 in second gear, unless it can rev to 9,000 rpm.

Try again.
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First of all, have you ever driven a car in Sport or Sport + mode? I dont think that is how it works... it has to do with how you hard and fast you press the gas pedal.... unless you go pedal to the metal, otherwise it will not stay in 2nd gear or whatever gear you are in..
I dont think Acura will even let you stay in 1 gear at redline even with pedal shifter.
Also you just contradicted yourself with the next sentence.
If what you said is true : 2nd gear all the way to 70 in sport mode, you will have to have some physical and mental disabilities to not realize that you are in 2nd gear at redline or "pass the redline" at 70mph... It has nothing to do with how refine the engine is...



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when you are using sport mode. you are using alot higher rpm. almost driving in 2nd gear all the way to 70mph. This shows that TLX is so refined that people not realized that they are in sport mode.
Honda engines and aerodynamics are superior than competiton.

2018 Honda Accord 2.0T 30mpg long term test.
2019 Genesis G70 2.0T got 26mpg long term test.


https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-maintenance/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-maintenance/

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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
First of all, have you ever driven a car in Sport or Sport + mode? I dont think that is how it works... it has to do with how you hard and fast you press the gas pedal.... unless you go pedal to the metal, otherwise it will not stay in 2nd gear or whatever gear you are in..
I dont think Acura will even let you stay in 1 gear at redline even with pedal shifter.
Also you just contradicted yourself with the next sentence.
If what you said is true : 2nd gear all the way to 70 in sport mode, you will have to have some physical and mental disabilities to not realize that you are in 2nd gear at redline or "pass the redline" at 70mph... It has nothing to do with how refine the engine is...
He owns a 2009 TSX. It all makes perfect sense.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
First of all, have you ever driven a car in Sport or Sport + mode? I dont think that is how it works... it has to do with how you hard and fast you press the gas pedal.... unless you go pedal to the metal, otherwise it will not stay in 2nd gear or whatever gear you are in..
I dont think Acura will even let you stay in 1 gear at redline even with pedal shifter.
Also you just contradicted yourself with the next sentence.
If what you said is true : 2nd gear all the way to 70 in sport mode, you will have to have some physical and mental disabilities to not realize that you are in 2nd gear at redline or "pass the redline" at 70mph... It has nothing to do with how refine the engine is...
you are assuming he all the time in cruise control all the way. which simply not happen with so long distance. any time there is slow down happening. sport mode will generate much righer rpm to get back to higher speeds. This is 2015 Model vehicle that is beating 2018 BMW in long distance drive despite in sport mode..

there plenty of long term tests. one of tests goes all the way to 13000 feet elevation and still avg 28mpg.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...-wine-country/

Celebrating a big milestone with a capable and comfortable cruiser

https://drivetofive.com/2020/06/15/great-escape-2020-acura-tlx-pmc-edition-6-state-3000-mile-road-trip/

Great Escape: 2020 Acura TLX PMC Edition 6-State, 3,000-Mile Road Trip

TLX Odometer Start 5/29/2020: 2,233

TLX Odometer End 6/12/2020: 5,369


Old 10-05-2020, 07:49 PM
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Consider the bland designs that belong to Taxi style that TLX will be competing. Sales are pretty much assured.




Old 10-05-2020, 07:53 PM
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Damn that Genesis looks really good. The BMW is a classy design as well. Thanks for posting those.
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Yes. you should be very proud that a TLX V6 can pass big rigs with breeze

Acceleration pulls are quick but not blow-your-mind fast. Peak torque, 267 lb-ft, comes deeper in the rev range, at 4,500 rpm. I got the most excitement from the motor when it was spinning at or beyond 6,200 rpm, making its full 290 hp. I passed the big rigs with a breeze, especially when using the paddle shifters to keep the revs up high.



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you are assuming he all the time in cruise control all the way. which simply not happen with so long distance. any time there is slow down happening. sport mode will generate much righer rpm to get back to higher speeds. This is 2015 Model vehicle that is beating 2018 BMW in long distance drive despite in sport mode..

there plenty of long term tests. one of tests goes all the way to 13000 feet elevation and still avg 28mpg.

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...-wine-country/

Celebrating a big milestone with a capable and comfortable cruiser

https://drivetofive.com/2020/06/15/great-escape-2020-acura-tlx-pmc-edition-6-state-3000-mile-road-trip/

Great Escape: 2020 Acura TLX PMC Edition 6-State, 3,000-Mile Road Trip

TLX Odometer Start 5/29/2020: 2,233

TLX Odometer End 6/12/2020: 5,369
Old 10-05-2020, 07:56 PM
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You wanna bet your life saving on it?


Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Consider the bland designs that belong to Taxi style that TLX will be competing. Sales are pretty much assured.
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I can assure you Acura will sell at least 2 TLXs.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I can assure you Acura will sell at least 2 TLXs.
SSFTSX won't actually buy one, so...
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Old 10-05-2020, 08:19 PM
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Yeh cannot show up when i post picture of TLX. she has assured deposits of thousands people waiting for those Genesis to show for past year.
every color in it.
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