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Highly Anticipated 2021 Acura TLX Set To Arrive at Dealerships Late September
August 20, 2020 — TORRANCE, CALIF.
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New model packs more performance and features at a starting price of $37,500
High performance Type S variant to arrive next spring
The 2021 Acura TLX is set to launch nationwide September 28th as the quickest, best-handling and most well-appointed sedan in the brand's 35-year history. Built upon a model-exclusive body structure and chassis architecture, the 2021 TLX 2.0T will carry a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $37,5001, an increase of $1,300 over the outgoing 3.5-liter V6-powered TLX. Acura's torque vectoring Super Handling All-Wheel Drive™ (SH-AWD®) system is available on all trims for an additional $2,000. The TLX Type S, with Acura's new 3.0-liter V6 Turbo and standard Super Handling All-Wheel Drive, arrives next spring well-equipped in the low to mid $50,000s.
Complementing its stunning new design and athletic stance, the TLX's new 2.0-liter DOHC VTEC® Turbo delivers more peak torque (+13 lb.-ft.) than the outgoing 3.5-liter V6, with a dramatic increase at the low end of the rev range (+48 lb.-ft. @ 1,500 rpm). Compared to the outgoing entry 2.4L model, the new TLX offers substantially more performance (+66 horsepower, +98 lb.-ft. peak torque) and major increases to technologies and premium amenities - establishing a new and more upmarket entry point for the Acura sedan.
Additional performance improvements for the 2021 TLX include a quick-shifting 10-speed transmission, sport-tuned chassis with double wishbone front suspension, NSX-derived electro-servo brake-by-wire technology, and available adaptive dampers.
Best-in-class technologies new to TLX include a new implementation of Acura's True Touchpad Interface™ with a 10.2 inch HD center display, an available 17-speaker ELS STUDIO 3DÒ premium audio system, and color and intensity adjustable LED interior ambient lighting with up to 27 IconicDrive™ themes. The new TLX expands on its standard AcuraWatch™ suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies with the addition of Traffic Jam Assist (TJA) and Traffic Sign Recognition, as well as an industry first next-generation passenger front airbag designed to mitigate potential injury in more steeply angled frontal collisions.
1) Sucks for folks hoping this would slide in under $50K (the $45K estimate seems like a pipe dream now)
2) Sucks for folks hoping that the Type-S would have some Advance features like a HUD, power folding mirrors, heated steering wheel, etc.
3) It's only marginally cheaper than the real world price of a comparably equipped S4 or M340xi. This thing is going to be a hard sell at sticker.
I think similiarly equipped, Type S will be about 5-6k cheaper than a M340i/S4/C43
In the market of $50-70k Sport sedan, that is not a lot... especially BMW will always give more discount than Acura... so in the real world, the price paid will be a lot closer.
I like the look of the car, but not impressed with the HP #s and price.
Its more BMW 5 series competitior. DWB suspension, new SH-AWD system. I presume it will be more refined and upscale than current TLX.
TLX feel wider in the cabin.
Its more BMW 5 series competitior. DWB suspension, new SH-AWD system. I presume it will be more refined and upscale than current TLX.
TLX feel wider in the cabin.
i tried to not always sound like a Acura basher... but you leave me with no choice every single time haha
Euro has risen 10% in past 6 months. At some point BMW will pass along these costs even for US made vehicles as Engine/Transmission of most vehicles imported. add the inefficiencies due to Covid and further decline in shipping availability.
TLX is fairly priced for 2021 model year.
Honda is not Tesla that is artificially propped by money printing.
lmfao low to mid 50k. No digital gauges, no heads up display, no folding mirrors, no surround view camera, no rain sensing wipers, no rear heated seats, no heated steering wheel... this thing is asking S4 prices with less features. Hell, it's got less features than an Accord Touring. Looks are good. Power is meh. Packaging is meh. Price is meh. Can't wait to see them sit on dealer lots.
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Who said it was gonna be $45k ?? '
I think similiarly equipped, Type S will be about 5-6k cheaper than a M340i/S4/C43
In the market of $50-70k Sport sedan, that is not a lot... especially BMW will always give more discount than Acura... so in the real world, the price paid will be a lot closer.
I like the look of the car, but not impressed with the HP #s and price.
Car & Driver was one of the ones speculating $45k.
Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Its more BMW 5 series competitior. DWB suspension, new SH-AWD system. I presume it will be more refined and upscale than current TLX.
TLX feel wider in the cabin.
I absolutely agree, the 5 series will have a more refined and upscale interior compared to the TLX.
Funny enough I got some random ass cold call from a nearby dealer asking if I wanted to trade in my 2007 TL for a 2020 TLX. I told them nah, I want to check out the 2021 if I even wanted a new car.
Its more BMW 5 series competitior. DWB suspension, new SH-AWD system. I presume it will be more refined and upscale than current TLX.
TLX feel wider in the cabin.
While the TLX is sized like the 5er, it's still priced in line with the 3er.
Fun fact: the TLX is categorized by the EPA as a compact car because they use interior + cargo volume to determine which class it falls into. At 108 cubic feet of combined space, it falls just under the 110 threshold for mid-size cars.
While the TLX is sized like the 5er, it's still priced in line with the 3er.
TLX is 100% US built and Honda not share major tech with other firms. The point i am making it this new TLX is larger, upscale and refined vehicle than outgoing. 10 speed auto vs 9 speed auto.
BMW 3 series is imported.
i was clarifying to YEH dont compare imported car price with domestic. Import car will still be expensive in most circumstances with comparable equipment.
BMW 5 is domestic car for EU just like TLX is domestic car for US.
Why can't you compare Imported cars sold in the US with cars made in the US? They are being sold for the same people in the same country...
Genesis cars are made in Korea.. and they are cheaper.. (Damn i think i just hit a nerve )
Now Cars from another Continent that dont exist should not be compared tho... That is like comparing a house in New York with a house in Thighland... not relevant...
BMW 5 series not have many factories. It has same industrial chain even with engine modifications. so prices globally should be closer to each other.
You cannot compare Car build in Midwest with car built in California or even Korea.
yup. i have been in loaded various model German cars.
Those lease deals are not any different than Accord/Camery deals here and there lease include the VAT aka sales tax and road tax aka registeration.
https://www.carwow.co.uk/bmw/5-series/lease
Warranty & tax included
BMW 5 Series leasing deals include road tax for the contract length, and a full manufacturer's warranty — all you need to do is arrange insurance.
Tried pricing a 340i to be similarly equipped and it's about $65k (fully loaded ones with features not available on the tlx are about $70k).
About $11k difference but i guess BMW gives more discounts so may be realistically the difference is about $6-8k?
Think the type s should have all the advance pkg features.
Thr pricing seems aligned with the rdx and that car sells well. But that's a SUV so it's a bit different I guess. Will be interesting to see how the tlx drives.
i was clarifying to YEH dont compare imported car price with domestic. Import car will still be expensive in most circumstances with comparable equipment.
BMW 5 is domestic car for EU just like TLX is domestic car for US.
The C Class is built in Alabama and MB's and BMW's RWD CUVs are also built here.
Even before the run up of the Euro, they were all significantly more expensive than Acura's offerings.
The Telluride is built here and the Palisade in Korea, and yet the pricing on both is similar.
Sure, in times of wide currency fluctuation, automakers won't eat all of the increased exchange rate costs, but you make it seem like Acura was never priced significantly lower than MB and BMW.
The TLX is priced where it is bc it is a FWD/transverse model which can't command the premium that RWD models do.
It's the reason why the full size FWD lux sedans (XTS, Continental, S90 and RLX) are/were priced one segment down to the midsize segment, and why, in the case of the ES, 2 segments down.
The new TLX is getting a price increase due to the new powertrain components, added tech and a nicer interior compared to the outgoing model.
The C Class is built in Alabama and MB's and BMW's RWD CUVs are also built here.
Even before the run up of the Euro, they were all significantly more expensive than Acura's offerings.
The Telluride is built here and the Palisade in Korea, and yet the pricing on both is similar.
Sure, in times of wide currency fluctuation, automakers won't eat all of the increased exchange rate costs, but you make it seem like Acura was never priced significantly lower than MB and BMW.
The TLX is priced where it is bc it is a FWD/transverse model which can't command the premium that RWD models do.
It's the reason why the full size FWD lux sedans (XTS, Continental, S90 and RLX) are/were priced one segment down to the midsize segment, and why, in the case of the ES, 2 segments down.
The new TLX is getting a price increase due to the new powertrain components, added tech and a nicer interior compared to the outgoing model.
Thus isn't any different for the G80.
As i said your limited knowledge is showing. thats why i am tired of replying to your every post.
Is Mercedes C class Design/R&D/100% manufacture in Alabama? or for that matter BMW SUVs Engine/Transmissions etc. ( I am not even going into domestic Germany where 30% of population is Turkish/Russia and all the implication across the Europe of industrial chains)
if TLX was developed by Honda Japan with Japanese domestic content. The price would be well in excess of $100k. even 20 years old RLX cost $65K whose R&D already writeoff.
There is report of "Huawei and Japan". Read it several time as i have doubts you can be educated with one time reading.
Tried pricing a 340i to be similarly equipped and it's about $65k (fully loaded ones with features not available on the tlx are about $70k).
About $11k difference but i guess BMW gives more discounts so may be realistically the difference is about $6-8k?
Think the type s should have all the advance pkg features.
Thr pricing seems aligned with the rdx and that car sells well. But that's a SUV so it's a bit different I guess. Will be interesting to see how the tlx drives.
Yeah, I'm getting a price markup for the German brands too.
Frankly, I think the TLX looks good and is promising. The pricing isn't terrible and I suppose I'd likely cross-shop it against Infiniti, Cadillac, and Lexus. As much as I want to consider Germans in the equation, I think the pricing difference may make it a bit unfair if we are to use $ as the base point.
As i said your limited knowledge is showing. thats why i am tired of replying to your every post.
Is Mercedes C class Design/R&D/100% manufacture in Alabama? or for that matter BMW SUVs Engine/Transmissions etc. ( I am not even going into domestic Germany where 30% of population is Turkish/Russia and all the implication across the Europe of industrial chains)
if TLX was developed by Honda Japan with Japanese domestic content. The price would be well in excess of $100k. even 20 years old RLX cost $65K whose R&D already writeoff.
There is report of "Huawei and Japan". Read it several time as i have doubts you can be educated with one time reading.
Pffft- you've been WRONG on more things than you've been right.
The person who is tired of always having to correct someone is me (the most recent example being your post about royalty payments which you had little understanding of).
While there are higher costs in R&D and in production of certain components made in Germany due to the exchange rate, the reason why the Germans (in particular, MB and MB) price their vehicles at the levels they do is because they CAN.
The RWD Germans can charge a premium because their respective brands and/or specific models warrant it.
The R&D and production of the Cadillac ATS and CTS were also done in the US and yet, while priced below MB and BMW (many thought not by not enough), but were priced above Acura's offerings.
The Germans build some of their models in Mexico (where production costs are way lower than here), and yet their pricing doesn't reflect it.
And sorry, most of the engineering work for Honda/Acura is done in Japan.
And while the Yen has risen in value, there was a pretty long period when it was low against the US dollar ( and the Korean Won was high).
You saying that the if the TLX was totally developed and built in Japan that it would cost $100k is one of the DUMBEST things you've ever stated (and that's a very high bar). lmao
(Also, the RLX is not 20 yrs old and age has nothing to do with the list price/MSRP - how many things are you going get wrong in a single post?)
The TLX is for buyers looking for a spacious (relative to the competition at its pricepoint) Japanese vehicle and find the Lexus ES to dull to drive.
Even with the price hike, the starting price of the TLX still undercuts the ES.
The RWD Germans not only have higher margins than Acura (or any of the Japanese), they also spend LESS on incentives in relation to ATP. (and that's even taking into account their ability to offer good lease deals).
Meanwhile, Acura's incentive spending in relation to ATP is among the highest in the industry, not that far behind Infiniti.
As i said your limited knowledge is showing. thats why i am tired of replying to your every post.
Is Mercedes C class Design/R&D/100% manufacture in Alabama? or for that matter BMW SUVs Engine/Transmissions etc. ( I am not even going into domestic Germany where 30% of population is Turkish/Russia and all the implication across the Europe of industrial chains)
if TLX was developed by Honda Japan with Japanese domestic content. The price would be well in excess of $100k. even 20 years old RLX cost $65K whose R&D already writeoff.
There is report of "Huawei and Japan". Read it several time as i have doubts you can be educated with one time reading.
Of note: There is NO ACURA BRAND in japan. It's badged as a Honda for a much different price.
Pffft- you've been WRONG on more things than you've been right.
The person who is tired of always having to correct someone is me (the most recent example being your post about royalty payments which you had little understanding of).
While there are higher costs in R&D and in production of certain components made in Germany due to the exchange rate, the reason why the Germans (in particular, MB and MB) price their vehicles at the levels they do is because they CAN.
The RWD Germans can charge a premium because their respective brands and/or specific models warrant it.
The R&D and production of the Cadillac ATS and CTS were also done in the US and yet, while priced below MB and BMW (many thought not by not enough), but were priced above Acura's offerings.
The Germans build some of their models in Mexico (where production costs are way lower than here), and yet their pricing doesn't reflect it.
And sorry, most of the engineering work for Honda/Acura is done in Japan.
And while the Yen has risen in value, there was a pretty long period when it was low against the US dollar ( and the Korean Won was high).
You saying that the if the TLX was totally developed and built in Japan that it would cost $100k is one of the DUMBEST things you've ever stated (and that's a very high bar). lmao
(Also, the RLX is not 20 yrs old and age has nothing to do with the list price/MSRP - how many things are you going get wrong in a single post?)
The TLX is for buyers looking for a spacious (relative to the competition at its pricepoint) Japanese vehicle and find the Lexus ES to dull to drive.
Even with the price hike, the starting price of the TLX still undercuts the ES.
The RWD Germans not only have higher margins than Acura (or any of the Japanese), they also spend LESS on incentives in relation to ATP. (and that's even taking into account their ability to offer good lease deals).
Meanwhile, Acura's incentive spending in relation to ATP is among the highest in the industry, not that far behind Infiniti.
Most of engineering work done in Japan for honda/Acura?. where you get this information?.
All German RWD vehicles are cheaper than FWD Honda in Europe.
Infact in Lease terms with 3 year free maintainance German RWD not much expensive than comparable Acuras in US.
so where you get this information that RWD can be expensive?
1.5L engine lease is more expensive than 2.0 diesel and let alone Hybrid CRV.
so the whole world price RWD cheaper than FWD platform but you in your mythical logic thinks that RWD more expensive?
Most of engineering work done in Japan for honda/Acura?. where you get this information?.
All German RWD vehicles are cheaper than FWD Honda in Europe.
Infact in Lease terms with 3 year free maintainance German RWD not much expensive than comparable Acuras in US.
so where you get this information that RWD can be expensive?
1.5L engine lease is more expensive than 2.0 diesel and let alone Hybrid CRV.
so the whole world price RWD cheaper than FWD platform but you in your mythical logic thinks that RWD more expensive?
i am not even gonna go into details about those #s.
and you wonder why Honda sold 2796 units in UK in 2019 and BMW Sold 234,000
I know... exclusivity, the less they sold, they superior they are. I get it.
BMW Group UK has reported 234,637 BMW and MINI vehicle registrations in 2019 with one in ten UK new car customers now selecting a BMW Group vehicle. Honda sold 2,796 cars in the United Kingdom (UK) in December 2019. The year as whole proved to be quite difficult for Honda's unit sales which were down about 16.5 percent compared to 2018.
Yeah, I'm getting a price markup for the German brands too.
Frankly, I think the TLX looks good and is promising. The pricing isn't terrible and I suppose I'd likely cross-shop it against Infiniti, Cadillac, and Lexus. As much as I want to consider Germans in the equation, I think the pricing difference may make it a bit unfair if we are to use $ as the base point.
Originally Posted by Yumcha
Just to confirm, the Type S is also inbound right?
Originally Posted by Yumcha
...cuz, the product page for Acura Canada has no mention of it.
Are you from Canada?
The Canadian type s has a lot of the missing features:
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Who said it was gonna be $45k ?? '
