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Old 05-26-2020, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
you wanna bet your life saving on TLX being a 4 sec or under car?

You know RLX Hybrid is fast off the line because of the battery, which TLX does not have?
Civic Si is far faster car than Accord hybrid. Small turbo engine and lighter weight with proper tire setup.
it all depend how light the structure of TLX.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Civic Si is far faster car than Accord hybrid. Small turbo engine and lighter weight with proper tire setup.
it all depend how light the structure of TLX.
You going to bet on it or what?
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Originally Posted by SamDoe1
You going to bet on it or what?
i havent seen all the specifications so cannot bet on it. but honda is continously improving. so 4 second should be doable with proper rim and tire setup.
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i havent seen all the specifications so cannot bet on it. but honda is continously improving. so 4 second should be doable with proper rim and tire setup.
You seem confident enough. You can't bet on something after you know what it is, that defeats the purpose. If you're that sold on it being a sub 4 second car, lets see it. Go buy your dream hybrid RLX.
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2021 Acura TLX and Type S revealed with sharp style and turbo power

The TLX is better poised than ever to take on the world's best luxury-sport sedans.

The Acura TLX kind of gets a bad rap against more traditional luxury/sport sedans like the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. Its badge might not carry the same clout in some circles, yet the TLX offers equivalent levels of performance, luxury and onboard tech as these rivals -- and for less money, too.

With the 2021 TLX, Acura is really working to up the sedan's wow factor, while still staying true to its mission of offering a lot of features for the money. And honestly, if this new TLX drives as good as it looks, this might be the moment when the gap between Acura and the Germans finally starts to close.

Type S is back

The 2021 TLX marks the return of Acura's storied Type S line, and it's not just a trim-and-tape updo, either. When it arrives next spring, the TLX will be powered by a brand-new, turbocharged 3.0-liter V6 engine, paired with a 10-speed automatic transmission and the company's Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive tech. Unfortunately, Acura isn't releasing any official Type S specs as part of Thursday's debut, but I've heard this sportier sedan will pack quite a punch -- well more than 300 horsepower, at any rate. Unique suspension calibration and larger Brembo brakes will help the Type S' on-road performance, though again, Acura representatives can't yet confirm just how different the two TLX models will be. Stay tuned; I'm pretty stoked.

Thankfully, even the regular 2021 TLX has lots to offer. Its design is slightly toned down compared with the Type S, but make no mistake, this sedan is a looker. The TLX rides on a new platform, and is about 3 inches longer, 2 inches wider and half an inch lower than its predecessor, with a wheelbase that's been stretched nearly 4 inches. More importantly, Acura increased the TLX's dash-to-axle length by about 7 inches, which gives the sedan a slightly more rear-wheel-drive appearance. It's not quite as pronounced as it is on the 2019 Type S concept -- the car that previewed the TLX's design -- but the change here is still quite noticeable, and welcome.



It's easiest to spot a Type S from the rear. Not only does the Type S have a honkin' set of four exhaust pipes, it's got black finish on the license plate housing, as well as a black lip spoiler (though the A-Spec has this last one, too). The Type S also rides on 20-inch wheels, while standard TLX models get 18s or 19s, depending on trim. And while every TLX comes standard with LED headlights, the Type S loses its fog lights in favor of larger mesh air intakes. Acura showed me both a standard TLX (in its loaded Advance trim) and a TLX Type S earlier this month, and honestly, both look great in person. The base car does not sacrifice style.

Other cool details? Check out the way the piano-black trim on the upper parts of the mirror caps kind of makes them blend in with the windows. Also notice the "chicane" LED taillight signature, which comes on all models. Oh, and arguably best of all, the Type S is going to be offered in a shade of yellow called Tiger Eye Pearl, which looks totally rad (in photos, anyway).







Turbos for everyone

I'll say it again: Beyond the fact that the Type S has a 3.0-liter V6, 10-speed automatic and all-wheel drive, there aren't any more performance specs to discuss right now. The rest of the 2021 TLX range will be powered by a 2.0-liter turbo I4 engine -- the same one you'll find in the RDX crossover -- and uses a 10-speed gearbox. Front-wheel drive is standard, SH-AWD is optional.

The 2.0T is rated at 272 horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque, which stacks up nicely against the four-cylinder turbocharged engines in the TLX's competitors. These are increases of 66 hp and 98 lb-ft over the old, naturally aspirated, 2.4-liter I4 from the outgoing TLX. And while the 2.0T might be down 18 hp compared with the 2020 TLX's 3.5-liter V6, it's got 13 more lb-ft of torque, delivered lower in the rev range. Acura doesn't have fuel economy numbers available just yet, but expect the 2.0-liter engine to do a whole lot better than the V6, which was rated at a dismal 20 miles per gallon city, 29 mpg highway and 23 mpg combined with all-wheel drive.

Acura recently touted the new TLX's double-wishbone front suspension, which replaces the old car's MacPherson strut setup. This should offer improved cornering grip, and combines with multilink rear suspension geometry. The other big mechanical changes are variable-ratio programming for the electrically assisted power steering, and a change from hydraulic to electro-servo assist for the brakes. TLX Advance and Type S models get adaptive dampers, too.

Every TLX will come with the usual Comfort, Normal and Sport drive modes, and the Type S will get an additional Sport Plus program. There's also a new Individual setting, accessed by pushing the large Dynamic Mode button in the middle of the center stack, where drivers can adjust the parameters for the throttle, transmission, steering, adaptive dampers (if equipped) and so on.

Luxury and tech in high supply

Inside the TLX, Acura's made a great effort to zhuzh up the cabin, with real metal on the speakers, open-pore wood and soft leather surfaces. Overall, the design is a little much -- there's a lot happening here -- but the steering wheel is nicely sized and feels great in my hands, and the relatively thin A-pillars allow for great overall visibility from the driver's seat. The rear seats are large enough to accommodate most adults, and there's 13.5 cubic feet of space in the trunk, which is about average, though slightly larger than the old TLX.

The center stack will be familiar to anyone who's been in an RDX, where the somewhat confusing electronic shifter is housed below the overly large drive mode selection dial. Simple climate controls are found above that, and Acura's latest multimedia system is housed on a 10.2-inch screen atop the dash, controlled by the company's True Touch Interface touchpad on the center console. Don't worry, Apple CarPlay and Android Auto are standard.

A word about TTI: Acura's version uses "absolute position" logic, meaning it doesn't work like the touchpad on your laptop or the horrible one Lexus uses in its cars. It's admittedly not my favorite interface, but isn't bad once you get used to it, and thankfully, there are physical volume and seek controls to the right of the touchpad. Acura says the latest version of its TTI tech has "more accurate swipe zones" and "other performance enhancements," and as the company continues to improve this system, over-the-air updates will be pushed out to all customers, thanks to the TLX's standard 4G LTE WI-Fi connectivity.

A 7-inch color display shows all sorts of information in the gauge cluster, though Acura's fixed instruments can't compete with its rivals' fully digital IPs (hello, Audi Virtual Cockpit). At least there's an optional head-up display, measuring 10.5 inches. Owners can select 24 different ambient lighting options, too, including two-tone schemes named after different driving-centric destinations, like race tracks (Suzuka) or great roads (Pacific Coast Highway).As for driver-assistance tech, every TLX comes with the AcuraWatch bundle, which includes traffic sign recognition, a driver-awareness monitor, adaptive cruise control, lane-keeping assist, blind-spot monitoring and other features. The TLX gets traffic jam assist, too, which combines the adaptive cruise and lane-keeping tech to make gross commutes easier. Yes, the TLX's competitors are available with this sort of tech, but most of them require you to spend more for an optional package in order to get the good stuff.

Pricing and availability

The 2021 Acura TLX will hit dealers this fall, and Acura says pricing will start in the "mid-$30,000 range." The 2020 TLX starts at $33,000 before destination, and I expect the new one to come in around $35,000. Mum's the word on how much the Type S will cost when it arrives next spring, though it'll likely undercut rivals like the Audi S4, BMW M340i and Mercedes-AMG C43.

On appearance alone, the TLX is leaps and bounds ahead of its forebear, and it certainly sounds like Acura's made plenty of engineering improvements to make this sedan a better performer. The TLX always deserved better than its also-ran status in the luxury/sport class. Here's hoping this new one will strike a stronger chord.

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A few minutes after the checkered flag waved at 2017's rainy 24 Hours of Daytona, Acura's bossman, Jon Ikeda, was cheering inside the luxury brand's suite at the raceway. The #86 NSX GT3 car crossed the line in a respectable fifth place—but Ikeda was not only acclaiming a successful debut for the new Acura race car, he was celebrating what the brand was building for the future.

The 2021 Acura TLX is a big part of that destiny. For the past few years, the TLX has been among the second-tier sales leaders in the hyper-competitive sport sedan segment—trailing the stalwart BMW 3 Series and Mercedes C-Class, but putting the hurt to the Audi A4, Alfa Romeo Giulia, Lexus IS, and Genesis G70. Still, it's never been seen as particularly sexy.
While keeping the TLX in the forefront of shoppers' minds, Ikeda also wants to bring a little more flair to an appliance luxury sedan. Not only is the new TLX going to herald a bolder design language, Acura also will resurrect the Type S high-performance model.

That wet Sunday afternoon in Florida was the beginning of a new chapter for Acura, and judging by Ikeda's face, good things were coming. After launching the powerful NSX and winning races, Acura is taking the next step on its relaunch as Honda's performance division. The second-generation 2021 Acura TLX ditches almost everything it had before and adds a bunch of key ingredients to truly compete in the sport sedan segment.
With a standard 2.0-liter turbo for the regular model and a 3.0-liter twin-scroll turbo V-6 for the Type S, Acura is doubling down in terms of emotion. On top of that, the TLX brings a striking new design that borrows lines from the Acura Precision Concept and the stunning Type S Concept.

2021 Acura TLX: Strong Proportions





Look at the TLX, and its proportions leap out. The long dash to axle dimension (7.8 inches longer than the outgoing model), expansive hood, and short overhangs give this front-drive-based car a rearward stance to emphasize its sportier nature. The wheelbase has been extended by 3.7 inches, measuring 113.0 inches. With a wider body and lower roof, the TLX delivers presence to the road. In person, the TLX's handsome lines also should gain a lot of attention.

The front fascia gets a bolder version of Acura's pentagonal diamond grille, which is more upright than the one we've seen in the RDX. The new generation of the Jewel Eye headlights—borrowed from the Type S Concept—add four LED elements and bright daytime running lights. The front fender also adopts its sharp lines from the concept, showing a large radiator grille and hiding the foglights on the corners. The hood's strong character lines add more muscle to the front, helping with the aggressive stance that Acura designers were chasing.

From the side, the creases are more subtle and cleaner, but 19-inch wheels (18-inch are standard) add more to the look. The rear is probably the TLX's best angle; the new taillights mimic the shape of the daytime running lights, while two wide exhaust tubes add presence to the rear.

The A-Spec sport appearance package continues in the 2021 TLX, adding unique 19-inch Shark Grey wheels, gloss black accents around its body, a rear spoiler, and darker headlights and taillights. The Type S grows from there, adding quad exhaust tubes, a front splitter, and a rear diffuser. All the chrome from the regular car is subbed for black matte accents on the Type S, giving it a sportier look.

2021 Acura TLX—A Familiar Cabin




Following a similar design to the RDX's interior, the TLX gets a new-look cabin with much-needed improvement. The driver's seat carries a lower seating position from which to look out over that expansive hood. The center console has been redesigned, with a 10.2-inch screen standing on top of the dash.

The infotainment screen can be controlled using a track pad that sits near the driver and now has a larger hand rest for a more comfortable position. This is the system used in the RDX, and after reviewing one for a full year, we found ways it needed to improve. Acura says it keeps updating the software to get rid of bugs and make the system more intuitive to use, but there's no doubt that there's a learning curve for buyers new to the Acura interface.

Like with all Acuras these days, instead of having a transmission lever, gears are selected via an array of buttons. A big knob in the middle of the center console allows the driver to select from four different modes—Comfort, Normal, Sport, and Individual. The latter allows the driver to individually adjust the engine response and transmission mapping—and even the suspension stiffness if the TLX is equipped with the available adaptive dampers.



The cabin has a premium feel in general, and the 24-color ambient lighting system ups the experience at night. The lighting scheme changes depending on the selected drive mode, but drivers can override that to a color of their choice. The ELS Studio 3D audio system is another highlight in the TLX—with 17 speakers (one more than in the RDX), you probably won't hear any noise coming from outside.

Although the front seats have plenty of space, it's a different story for rear passengers; headroom and legroom were pretty tight for my 6-foot frame. There are no USB ports for backseat passengers, either—only two in the front along with an optional wireless charger.

2021 Acura TLX—The Heart And Soul

The 2021 Acura TLX will be powered by a 2.0-liter turbo engine that produces 272 hp and 280 lb-ft of torque. The new four-banger comes straight from the RDX, and it has also been used in the Honda Civic Type R and Accord. It's a big increase compared to the outgoing TLX, which is powered by an old 2.4-liter naturally aspirated engine with 206 hp and 182 lb-ft.

The Type S' heart, however, will come in the form of a 3.0-liter twin-scroll turbo V-6. Although Acura is tightlipped on the larger engine's numbers, we expect power to be in the mid-300s. Even when compared to the optional 3.5-liter V-6, the 3.0-liter turbo in the Type S should bring a night and day difference.

Both the regular TLX and the Type S will share a 10-speed automatic transmission, though the Type S' gearbox has been tuned for performance driving. The tranny can send all the power to the front wheels, or to all four wheels with the optional Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive (all Type S units will come with standard SH-AWD). Like in the RDX, the system can send up to 70 percent of the torque to the rear axle depending on driving conditions, and 100 percent of that rear torque can be transferred to the right or left wheel.



Under its skin, Acura developed an all-new platform for the TLX. Brand reps say the architecture was specifically developed to support the performance of the Type S and does not share any parts with other Honda or even Acura products (yet).

The most important detail is the upgrade from struts to control arms for the front suspension. The revised suspension should deliver better handling through corners. Another key element is the 50 percent increase in torsional stiffness that will improve the ride. The platform uses 56 percent lightweight materials such as aluminum and high-strength press-hardened steel—more than in any other Acura sedan.

Learning from the NSX, Acura engineers were able to implement the same kind of electric-servo power-assisted braking system in the TLX. Acura says the system allowed it to tune the brake pedal force and brake pressure to deliver controlled, firm stopping power. The Type S gets the same setup but with upgraded hardware, which includes four-piston Brembo calipers in the front.

2021 Acura TLX—Safety




As you would expect, all TLXs come equipped with a long list of safety technologies—from adaptive cruise control to automatic emergency braking—under the AcuraWatch name at no extra cost. For 2021, traffic sign recognition and a driver awareness monitor are added to that list, with the latter monitoring the driver's behavior and alertness.

A new front-passenger airbag makes its way into the TLX, which uses a three-chamber design that further protects the passenger's head in case of an accident.

2021 Acura TLX—Does It Have What It Takes?

Given drivers' desire for performance without sacrificing usability and practicality, the compact sport sedan market is tough to win over, but the 2021 Acura TLX is trying hard to do just that. Though the segment may not be as popular as it was a few years ago, it still draws attention, and Acura is showing what it can do in a crowded field.

When Ikeda walked me through the 2021 TLX for the first time, I recognized his facial expression from that Sunday afternoon in Daytona. Acura has worked hard to get to where it is, and the TLX—especially the Type S—represents an important step toward demonstrating the brand's performance roots. Whether the TLX can take us back to the sportiness of the original Acura Integra or the sophisticated Legend remains to be seen, but it appears Acura is on the right path.

Expect the 2021 Acura TLX to arrive in the fall, followed by the Tye S in the spring of 2021.
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Just a single turbocharger for the V6 engine, and not the one-turbo-on-each-cylinder-bank, twin-turbo V6 as on the NSX.
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2021 Acura TLX Sports Sedan Is a Welcome Return to Form

The longer, lower TLX looks great and will offer a Type S performance variant with a new turbo V-6.


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  • The upcoming 2021 Acura TLX is wider, lower, and rides on a 3.7-inch-longer wheelbase than the outgoing model.
  • The new model's 272-hp 2.0-liter four-cylinder is up 66 horsepower over the 2020 TLX's engine.
  • A Type S model is coming next spring with a turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 that we think will make around 350 horsepower.
During its development, Acura nicknamed the 2021 TLX "the Seven-Second Knockout," because the goal of the brand's new sports sedan is to knock you flat on your ass.
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The first hit comes from the design. Penned by the Acura Design Studio in Southern California, the new TLX draws inspiration from the 2016 Precision concept and the 2019 Type S concept. Like those concepts, the production car plays up its width and low height. When asked about what bits of the concept he wished he could have had on the production car, executive creative director Dave Marek paused and then conceded that it'd be nice to be able to have the size and height of the lights front and rear, but technology and regulations are what's keeping the concept-car lights off the production car.
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2021 Acura TLX. AcuraStance is a critical part of giving a car presence, and the new TLX grows in the places that make enthusiasts smile. Compared to its predecessor, the body is 2.2 inches wider, the roof is 0.6 inch lower, and the wheelbase grows 3.7 inches to 113.0 inches. Add in flared rear fenders and the low hood, and the TLX will look menacing and unique against a world gone SUV. Like today's TLX, an A-Spec version with less chrome and larger wheels will be offered for customers who want an even more aggressive look.
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Hear the 2021 Acura TLX's New Turbo V-6The engine remains transversely mounted, but designers and engineers left some space behind the engine to lengthen the distance from the base of the A-pillar to the center of the front wheels—the so-called dash-to-axle proportion. Acura claims to have added 7.8 inches to the dash-to-axle span, which helps hide the transverse-engine architecture and almost gives the TLX the look of a rear-wheel-drive sedan. Acura folks tell us that the extra space also leaves extra crush space for frontal collisions. We think it could be a good place to package hybrid components should Acura decide to build a gas-electric version.

While a hybrid could happen, we do know that Acura will offer two powertrains. A turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder lifted nearly directly from the RDX bolts in and delivers 272 horsepower and 280 lb-ft of torque. It easily outpowers the former TLX's naturally aspirated 206-hp 2.4-liter four. A 10-speed automatic transmission performs the shifting duties and sends power to the front wheels, unless the buyer orders all-wheel drive. Like the RDX, the new TLX will offer the latest version of Acura’s SH-AWD (Super Handling All-Wheel Drive). The latest system is able to send more torque to the rear end, and it can shuffle the torque faster than before. Up to 70 percent of the engine's torque can go to the rear tires, and the torque-vectoring rear differential is able to send anywhere from zero to 100 percent of that torque to the left or right wheel to provide forward movement and can overdrive the outside tire or for sensational tail-out antics.

Type S Coming Soon

Next spring, the TLX Type S will arrive at dealers. Acura would like the Type S to be to the regular TLX what Audi's S4 is to the A4. Horsepower and torque numbers of the top TLX and its new turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 have not yet been revealed, but we're expecting more than 350 horsepower and 350 lb-ft of torque. A single twin-scroll turbo pressurizes the DOHC V-6, but other than that we'll have to wait a few more months for more details. If you were hoping for a manual version, sorry: we were told that the Type S will only be offered with SH-AWD and the 10-speed automatic.
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Acura TLX vs. Audi A4: How Sports Sedans Stack UpWhile the new engines are sure to bring straight-line speed, a new platform that's 50 percent stiffer in torsional rigidity and a new suspension setup should help the TLX nail the handling part of the sports-sedan brief. Engineers assure us that the TLX is tuned to give an "immediate emotional feel" and that it will have the nimble feel of a smaller car. Some of that will come from the variable-ratio steering and the tuning of the steering, but the TLX appears to have the right hardware for the job.

Acura fans who remember the Integra, Legend, and TL will be delighted to hear that the front suspension ditches struts for a control-arm setup. In back, a multi-link suspension will keep the rear in check. Adaptive dampers will be optional on regular TLXs and standard on the Type S. To remove weight from the nose, the battery moves to the trunk, and the hood, front fenders, front-bumper beam, and the top of the shock towers are made of aluminum. Acura engineers weren’t ready to reveal the weight distribution of the all-wheel-drive version or the Type S, but we were told that the front-drive TLX will have a 57/43 weight distribution. All-wheel-drive hardware should further shift that percentage rearward.
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AcuraWheel sizes start at 18 inches for the base version, a 19-inch wheel is optional, and all TLXs get 255-width tires all around that, Acura tells us, substantially increase the TLX's lateral grip over the outgoing model. Type S will get a 20-inch wheel with a 255/35R20 all-season tire, but we’re told that a summer performance tire will be optional. Type S models will also get larger brake rotors, and in front they'll be clamped by four-piston Brembo calipers.

Acura is replacing the old TLX's vacuum-assisted brake servo with an electrically assisted unit. Based on our experience with the inconsistent brake-pedal feel of other cars with electric-servo brakes—the RDX and the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio come to mind—we’re a bit worried about TLX's brake-pedal feel. Acura engineers assure us that the pedal will be firm, progressive, and easily modulated and that the folks who did the RDX's tuning weren’t involved in the TLX's braking system.

Analog Gauges, Updated Infotainment

Interior quality appears to be commensurate with a car that will reach toward $60,000 for a fully loaded Type S. Starting prices for a front-driver are expected to be in the mid- to high-$30,000 range. Wood adorns the doors and the beams in the center of the instrument panel, but the Type S will get a different, metallic material. An updated version of Acura's touchpad-controlled infotainment system is promised to be easier to use than the version in the RDX. We can only hope.

Unlike most carmakers in this segment that have digital displays in place of actual gauges, Acura is sticking with analog gauges. Clear and easy to read, the gauges are welcome touch of tradition and authenticity in a sports sedan. On the inauthentic side, like most vehicles in the segment, the TLX will play engine sounds through the audio system. Engineers assure us that the sounds will be consistent with what's under the hood—a four will sound like a four and the six will sound like a six—and that the sound will be linear and consistent.

When asked why a sedan and why now? Acura vice president and brand officer Jon Ikeda responds, "In a world gone SUV, the sedan can still pull out the joys of a performance vehicle." The outgoing TLX, while pleasant enough, wasn’t something we'd consider a true sports sedan. We’ll have to wait until this fall to drive the new TLX, and the Type S version won’t arrive until early next year. We're willing to wait. After all, it might only take seven seconds to win us over.
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2021 Acura TLX revealed, finally looks like a credible luxury sports sedan

Good looks, lots of technology and a pair of turbocharged engine options



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We've been given our first official glimpse into the brand-new 2021 Acura TLX sedan, and so far we like what we see. It's clear that Acura wants to be considered a brand that focuses on performance, boosting power with two turbocharged engine options and the return of the Type S variant after a decade-long absence.

Acura stuck close to the well-received Type S concept when styling the new TLX, which means the sedan boasts crisp lines, aggressively creased sheetmetal and a low, wide stance. An angular grille is flanked by Acura's Jewel Eye headlights and Chicane LED running lights to create an expressive face, and similarly shaped taillights at the back end finish off a cohesive design. An A-Spec sport package adds darkened elements along with a unique set of 19-inch wheels and a rear spoiler.



The 2021 Acura TLX Type S goes several steps past the A-Spec with a so-called Diamond Pentagon grille and larger side air intakes. A front splitter and rear diffuser join the requisite rear spoiler to round out the aero package. Quad exhaust tips and 20-inch wheels are also included as part of the package. But the big news is underhood, with a 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 serving as the headliner. Acura hasn't yet released power figures for the Type S, but promises it will be much more powerful than the outgoing 3.5-liter V6 with "a more than 50-percent increase in low-end torque."

Standard TLX models will get a new 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine that produces 272 horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque. That's 66 hp and 98 lb-ft more than the previous naturally aspirated 2.4-liter engine, and Acura says there are 123 additional lb-ft at 1,500 rpm. Both engines will send their ponies through a 10-speed automatic transmission. Front-wheel drive is standard, and Acura's fourth-generation torque vectoring Super Handling All-Wheel Drive system will be standard on the Type S and optional on other TLX models.

Inside, all TLXs get a tech-rich cabin that features a centrally mounted 10.2-inch display and Acura's latest True Touchpad Interface. A 7-inch digital screen in the gauge cluster is standard, and a 10.5-inch head-up display is optional. Acura's Integrated Dynamics System is controlled via a prominent silver dial, and it now offers a customizable Individual mode.



The 2021 TLX sits on a new platform that is stiffer than before — Acura says the only vehicle more rigid in its portfolio is the NSX — and features double-wishbone front suspension in place of the previous model's struts. Cast aluminum front shock tower mounts, the location of the 12-volt battery to the trunk and an electric-servo brake system with bits borrowed from the aforementioned NSX point to the automaker's desire to turn the TSX into a proper sport sedan.

The full suite of AcuraWatch safety and driver-assistive technologies come standard, all of which actively attempt to avoid accidents. The automaker's new three-chamber front passenger airbag design is said to function like a baseball catcher's mitt to cradle the occupant for enhanced protection in frontal collisions.

As we said at the outset, we like what we see here. The final verdict, as always, will depend on the driving experience. We're excited to take Acura's first credible sports sedan in what feels like an eternity for a spin, particularly the Type S. In the meantime, click here to see how the new TLX compares with some of its chief rivals, check out the video below and pretty pictures in our high-res image gallery and let us know what you think in the Comments.

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Acura gets serious about reviving its sporting heritage.

After some teasing and insider speculation, Acura pulled the virtual silk sheets off of the 2021 TLX, revealing an emotional sports sedan that doubles down on the brand’s resurrected “Precision Crafted Performance” philosophy. As the second model to sport the ethos, the 2021 Acura TLX is a four-wheeled reveille for the company’s future products and the first recipient for the reintroduced Type S nameplate.

Shine Like A Diamond

The 2021 Acura TLX impresses with its sophisticated new styling. The wheelbase is up 3.7 inches (94 millimeters), while overall length is up 2.9 inches (74 mm) and height is down 0.6 inch (15 mm). Most impressively, however, is a dash-to-axle ratio that increases 7.8 inches (198 mm). According to TLX Global Development Leader Marc Ernst, the rear-biased design was one of the team’s key concept targets, and it was important to achieve without sacrificing interior or cargo room.
The TLX’s stance is a key component to establishing it as a legitimate sports sedan, but details deliver as well. Acura’s signature Diamond Pentagon grille – first seen on the Precision concept – makes an appearance here, with an unusual pedestrian detection radar plate surrounding the large Acura logo. While we normally abhor such obvious sensor placement, the TLX’s treatment here is surprising and unique.

“Chicane” front and rear LED signatures recall the Acura ARX-05 prototype racer, and the headlights boast a simpler design than the outgoing TLX. A strong character line develops from the middle of the front doors and rises through the wide rear haunches. Unusually, the door handles rest directly on this surface development, meaning the front handles are several inches lower than the rears (which are also rotated slightly to match the body contour). It’s unusual, but we’ll concede that the peculiarity looks much better in person than in photos.
The hood features bold, boomerang-shaped surface accents and a thick “spine” that recurs again on the trunk, while a sculpted roof panel does an excellent imitation of Zagato or Italdesign. Stylists moved the license plate to the rear bumper, opening up real estate on the decklid for a big dessert plate of an Acura logo. From stem to stern, the TLX’s styling is bold, dynamic, and aggressive, and that’s just the base model.

Moving into the TLX Type S brings even more visual verve. Chrome gives way to gloss black accents on the grille, where an “open diamond” texture arrives to provide more cooling to the fancy new engine (more on that in a moment). Larger bumper-mounted air inlets serve the same purpose. A gloss black front splitter, rear spoiler, and rear diffuser enhance the Type S’ aerodynamics, and they’ll also be available in a carbon fiber finish. Two different 20-inch wheels are available: a standard 10-spoke design and a lightweight, forged Y-spoke inspired by the NSX.

Dynamic Duo

Powering all non–Type S versions of the TLX is a turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-four donated by the RDX. Producing 272 horsepower (203 kilowatts) and 280 pound-feet (380 newton-meters), the turbo mill is up 66 ponies and an astounding 98 lb-ft over the old base engine. In fact, the new 2.0-liter engine is torquier and nearly as powerful as the optional 3.5-liter V6 found in the 2020 TLX.

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23 PhotosPower-hungry types will want to sidestep the two-liter and head for the TLX Type S, which gets its motive force from a brand new, Acura-specific twin-scroll turbocharged 3.0-liter V6. The company wouldn’t cop to power or torque ratings but claims the engine will produce 50 percent more low-end twist and “dramatic gains” in peak power and torque output over the current TLX's 290-hp (216-kW), 267–lb-ft (362-Nm) V6. Don’t be surprised to see around 380 hp (283 kW) and 350 lb-ft (475 Nm) from the Type S.

Both engines come with Acura’s 10-speed automatic gearbox, although the Type S gets upgraded internal components to suit its more performance-oriented mission. The Type S also comes standard with the next generation of Acura’s Super Handling All-Wheel Drive (SH-AWD), which actively routes extra power to the outside rear wheels in corners to improve balance and reduce understeer. Front-wheel drive is standard on models powered by the 2.0, but SH-AWD will be available.

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Inner Beauty

Acura took the design language of the RDX and scaled it up appropriately for the TLX, which will become Acura’s flagship sedan when the RLX is put out to pasture this year. A revised center stack includes controls for Acura’s unique 10.2-inch infotainment display that’s controlled via a touchpad interface. Volume and seek buttons have been relocated for easier use as well.
A high center console separates the driver and front passenger, giving the interior an intimate and cozy feel without actually sacrificing interior space – the company claims class-leading hip and shoulder room for the front seats. Acura’s uniquely styled sport seats will likely be quite comfortable if the RDX is any indicator.

The Advance model uses open-pore wood trim tastefully, applied to the door panels and center stack spars. The top-spec trim also gets a unique turned aluminum finish to the center console. Advance and A-Spec both get vented seats as well as an improved version of Acura’s incredible ELS Studio 3D audio system. The A-Spec and Type S will boast aluminum trim, a flat-bottomed steering wheel, and available red leather with Ultrasuede accents.

Framing Device

Built on an all-new, Acura-specific platform, the TLX proves the company will no longer be shilling warmed-over Honda products, instead creating a clear identity that recaptures some of the brand’s 1980s and 1990s magic. The new architecture is not shared with any current vehicles, but it might underpin future products from Acura.

The TLX is hunting down more sophisticated handling via a double-wishbone front suspension that replaces MacPherson struts in the outgoing sedan. Reviving a design used on such hits as the Legend, Integra, and both NSX generations, the TLX’s front suspenders should do a better job of resisting camber changes in corners, improving handling consistency. A multi-link rear arrangement returns for 2021.
Helping the suspension do its job more effectively is the most rigid platform Acura has ever produced, save the NSX. The 2021 TLX is 50 percent stiffer overall than its predecessor, although the suspension mounts offer localized improvements of 100 percent. Lightweight materials like aluminum and press-hardened steel make up 56 percent of the new structure, with a stiffer center tunnel and abundant underbody bracing providing added rigidity. Key lightweighting up front and relocating the battery to the trunk yields 57/43 weight distribution front to rear on the 2.0-powered TLX – not quite BMW levels, but not bad for a front-drive car.

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A New World And A Bold World

The 2021 Acura TLX Type S (and, to a slightly lesser extent, the standard TLX) represents a new high-water mark for the brand. Company representatives freely admit that for the last few years, Acura products have felt lacking in enthusiasm, but it appears that those days are over. After more than 30 years on the U.S. market, the company is taking its performance heritage seriously again.

And the TLX – riding on a dedicated platform, sporting a new engine, and showing off custom duds that trade anonymity for aggression – is the latest move from a company that’s getting its groove back. While we obviously have to reserve final judgement until we drive the thing, the 2021 Acura TLX and TLX Type S seem to be the shape of things to come from “Precision Crafted Performance.” The TLX arrives later this year, followed in early 2021 by the Type S. Prices for the former should start around $35,000.


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Looks great inside and out. Can't wait to see comparison tests with the TT V6.
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Certainly looks good! Will be interesting to see how it performs. Also, boo on the touchpad input. Why no touch screen? Also no digital cluster?
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TLX is enlarged enought that it make place for bigger ILX.



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TLX is enlarged enought that it make place for bigger ILX.
Length and width, sorta, but not really inside:



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Such a beautiful car! Acura hits this out of the ball park on the Type S. I need to buy one!
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TLX is enlarged enought that it make place for bigger ILX.
I hope you're saving your pennies! No way this car goes sub 4s to 60 with a 350hp motor.
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Well, not that I'm surprised, but the Type-S will not be offered with a manual transmission. I will not even bother looking at the car.
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Just a single turbocharger for the V6 engine, and not the one-turbo-on-each-cylinder-bank, twin-turbo V6 as on the NSX.
Yeah, but it is still a DOHC V6, so that's a step in the right direction. The 3.5 makes 500hp without the electric motors, so I would hope the 3l will make 400-430hp. Pure speculation though. Knowing Acura, it will have 370

It's definitely a good looking car. I'm getting a strong Infiniti vibe from it though. The lack of a full digital gauge cluster is peculiar, given the price range it most likely will be in (I'm thinking mid-50k to start).

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Yeah, but it is still a DOHC V6, so that's a step in the right direction. The 3.5 makes 500hp without the electric motors, so I would hope the 3l will make 400-430hp. Pure speculation though. Knowing Acura, it will have 370

It's definitely a good looking car. I'm getting a strong Infiniti vibe from it though. The lack of a full digital gauge cluster is peculiar, given the price range it most likely will be in (I'm thinking mid-50k to start).
They said ~350hp for the type S
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They said ~350hp for the type S
In which video/press release? The Acura press release said power numbers will come later. The 15min video didn't mention power at all.

Edit - I'm referring to the video and press release from the Acura website, not the C&D/MT articles.
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Length and width, sorta, but not really inside:


This design give plenty of space for Plug-In or Electric version. This still plenty to increase size of ILX. 2.4L engine is practically retired from line up. so no Acura or Honda will be using. I guess some time next summer ILX replacement will come out.
I even think MDX with 2.0T and 3.0T. Sedan sales are decreasing. So two sedan line up is all needed with maximum standardization.

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In which video/press release? The Acura press release said power numbers will come later. The 15min video didn't mention power at all.

Edit - I'm referring to the video and press release from the Acura website, not the C&D/MT articles.
Yep, you're right. I was going off what the magazines said. I doubt they're that far off the mark though, my guess is still in the 350hp-ish range which is right square with the S4 and the M340i.
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They mentioned Audi A7 and Panamera in video not the smaller cars.

I have no doubt they will make 3.0T stronger engine as they have to beat the current MDX hybrid numbers in much larger next MDX vehicle.
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Having driven my friend's A-Spec RDX a handful of times now, I expected a lot from this car. So far it looks like the real deal.

I cannot believe the day has finally come..... After a decade, I can finally recommend an Acura (two counting the RDX) to car shoppers.
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Certainly looks good! Will be interesting to see how it performs. Also, boo on the touchpad input. Why no touch screen? Also no digital cluster?
Yeah... no touch screen is pretty close to a deal-breaker for me, even though the car seems awesome. I've kind of been trying to wait out the whole stupid touchpad/joystick phase while my old-ass car with a touchscreen tries to hang in there.
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I knew they weren't going to give us a manual option, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm extremely let down by it. I was ready to put a deposit down, the rest of the car looks great. Oh well, it's pretty much redesigned WRX, MK8 Golf R or bust at this point.
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I may actually be coming back to Acura after 6 years with an Infinity Q50s and BMW 540MSport. I am very impressed with this design and potential of the Type S. I just bought my wife an RDX A-Spec for Mother's day two weeks ago and I can say for sure that the MMI takes a while to get use to. Meaning I'm still not. The MMI interface with the wheel in BMW's I-drive is much more intuitive. But it won't be a deal breaker. I will miss the Digital Cluster of the 540 and the Massaging seats. But this car is a lot less expensive and has most of the goodies. Will it have the handling prowes/supple ride and smoothness of the BMW inline 6 though? OK probably not but it might be enough.

I maybe coming back to Acura I may be coming home. This would be my 8th Acura....Wow.

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They mentioned Audi A7 and Panamera in video not the smaller cars.

I have no doubt they will make 3.0T stronger engine as they have to beat the current MDX hybrid numbers in much larger next MDX vehicle.
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I knew they weren't going to give us a manual option, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm extremely let down by it. I was ready to put a deposit down, the rest of the car looks great. Oh well, it's pretty much redesigned WRX, MK8 Golf R or bust at this point.
There's no guarantee the MK8 Golf R will have a manual, so it might be a bust.
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It’s not exciting. Still has that robot genitalia interior design. And still uses that horrible touchpad.

Outside is fine. It’s not horrendous like the prior gens but it’s not a skirt blowing design either. It’s just there.
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Certainly looks good! Will be interesting to see how it performs. Also, boo on the touchpad input. Why no touch screen? Also no digital cluster?
Just be glad the car looks pretty good and decent performance.

The car still looks huge per the side profile..
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He will raise you with upgraded tires...
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Length and width, sorta, but not really inside:
The new TLX has grown in size, and is more or less in the same ball park as the bigger 4G TL size. This is a good move since that the TLX is now the flagship sedan in the Acura sedan lineup.
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I hope you're saving your pennies! No way this car goes sub 4s to 60 with a 350hp motor.
We should not just look at the hp number. Don't forget about torque. The new turbo V6 has tons of torque, especially at the low end.
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We should not just look at the hp number. Don't forget about torque. The new turbo V6 has tons of torque, especially at the low end.
Torque wins races, HP sells cars.
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Still has that robot genitalia interior design.
Thanks, now I can't un-see that.


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Thanks, now I can't un-see that.

There's that big ol' robo-clitoris...right next to the robo-asshole you have to finger to put the can in to D...

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