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The analog guages are not analog but digital stepper motors controlled by low-cost stepper motor controllers. It's been that way for a couple decades.
Those motors/controller and the needles/plastic assembly (all very cheap) for them are probably still much cheaper than a TFTLCD display which are replacing them.
Old article but in 2014, a auto electronics analyst put the cost of the 7" 800x480 LCD diplay at $40-50 not including the uP and S/W development cost to drive it, it's probably come down some.
The advantage? Many new buyers love the modern displays and it makes it very easy to modify the display for any function.
I mean those gauges are cheap but still cost money, on top of the screen that is already there. I guess my point is that it's interesting to have both traditional physical gauges plus a screen, when having just one screen would just be enough as well.
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Oh then you will like what BMW did with my car... make a fully customizable digital gauge look like an analog gauge?
They are synonymous with unreliability that they are presented example in airline.
quote] https://skift.com/2019/09/04/emirate...f-reliability/ [It’s like] if you bought a Rolls Royce or a BMW and Audi or a Mercedes and the dealer told you, ‘I have to work with you because I need to pull out a load of data — we’ll do it all for you — but I have to change your engine after three months and I need to plug in and get all the stuff uploaded as you’re driving to make sure the engine is doing what we think it’s going to do, but I have to have my 250,000 pounds now and then I’ll work with you to ensure that the engine works eventually according to what you wanted,'” Clark said. “That’s probably the best analogy.”[/quote]
With the camo hiding the folds and creases in the body, it probably makes it look more slab-sided and bulky. Honestly though, it looks about the same size as the current Accord to my eyes.
I mean those gauges are cheap but still cost money, on top of the screen that is already there. I guess my point is that it's interesting to have both traditional physical gauges plus a screen, when having just one screen would just be enough as well.
Haha yes that's what I have in the CTR.
Those injection molded plastic components for those gauges cost pennys to tens of pennys. The most expensive components are the stepper motors followed by the PCB and microcontroller/bridge controller for the motors. All very cheap, the LCD display most auto manufacturers use with those analog guages is a passive low resolution monochrome dot matrix LCD which are cheap as well (few dollars) which provide a programmable mult-function display.
That's the reason your CTR gets a 480x320pixel (?) TFT color active LCD display that does everything and my daughter's lowly Civic LX gets analog gauges with it's monochrome dot matrix LCD display. As that report showed a nice instrument panel TFT LCD is still in the ~$40-$50 range without the uP/uC to run the S/W. A simple analog gauge setup even with a small LCD dot matric passive display is ~$20-25
fool me once, shame on me.. fool me twice... and how many times have you been fooled by Acura yet you still get excited
Lol!
Well if you look at the previous concept models within the past 10 years, the production model has been remarkably close to it. Look at the ZDX and TLX. Same for the TL. The TLX look almost EXACTLY the same with the exception for the wheels. Which actually look like they went to the 2018 Accord Sport redesign.
Nice the TLX is getting it's own unique chassis and going back to front upper/lower control arms (that's what I guessing from the description)
A full redesign is coming soon for Acura's best-selling sedan, the TLX. The standard 2021 TLX will go on sale this summer with a base price in the mid-$30,000 range, followed by the exciting high-performance Type S variant early next year.
Underpinning the new model will be an all-new unibody designed exclusively for the TLX that ditches struts for a control-arm front suspension to improve handling and feel. The standard TLX powertrain will borrow the 10-speed automatic transmission and turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-four from the current-generation Honda Accord but adds optional all-wheel drive. The Type S will bring some potency to the mix with a new turbocharged 3.0-liter V-6 that will provide a massive bump in power over the outgoing 3.5-liter V-6's 290 horses.
The Type S will get a turbocharged 3.0-litre V6 and likely a number of visual cues found on the concept. Output numbers are unknown however we think somewhere between 375 and 400-horsepower is far from out of the question – anything less would be wrong if Acura wants to be taken seriously. Standard AWD is a given as will be a price well in excess of $60,000.
I will be supremely disappointed if it's less than 400hp. The TLX V6 could have easily been 305hp but Honda/Acura being Honda/Acura, they dumbed it down.
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
$60K+? if Infiniti could not sell 50k Q50Redsport, what makes Acura think they can sell a $60k+ TLX?
They can say it is better blah blah... it didnt matter before and it wont matter a year from today.
I hope they keep the starting price of the TLX-S around high 30s and top out in the low $50s.
That said, it didn't help that it wasn't actually a good car... I test drove one before buying the Golf because the discounts were unbelievably steep and it was just meh. For that kind of money, I'm going to need something more than "just meh".
Also $60k for a TLX-S is absurd, that's knocking on M3 and AMG money, it even out prices a M340i. $40k-$50k is more reasonable.
Considering the current TLX with V6, AWD, and Tech+A-Spec pkgs is around $44k, I think a Type-S in the $30s isn't going to happen.
They were referencing the base TLX with the 2 liter when they said it would start in the 30s.
And I agree, anything less than 400hp is a failure, especially if they're shooting for a $60k asking price. The double wishbone setup is an interesting one though - I wonder what the packaging of the engine will be, since that suspension setup will take up more room. Unless they're going with a longitudinal setup - which would make AWD difficult, since they don't have a front engine'd version of their longitudinal setup (unless they leverage electric motors for the front axle).
Either way, they have my attention, but they really need to knock it out of the park to get my money.
I personally have no problem going back to Acura... But they cannot charge BMW $$ for BMW Performance.. (maybe even less)
I would just stay with BMW if that is the case...
$60K+? if Infiniti could not sell 50k Q50Redsport, what makes Acura think they can sell a $60k+ TLX?
They can say it is better blah blah... it didnt matter before and it wont matter a year from today.
I hope they keep the starting price of the TLX-S around high 30s and top out in the low $50s.
That $60k number was just from a independent auto journalist, no quote or citations from anyone at Honda/Acura.
It's also a Canadian car website so I presume he meant Canadian dollars, not USD.
The last TL Type-S new was $38425 in 2008, with inflation that works out to ~$47k in 2020.
I'm expecting the TLX Type-S to be in the mid $40k range well equipped with perhaps an additional typical Acura Tech package option
Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Considering the current TLX with V6, AWD, and Tech+A-Spec pkgs is around $44k, I think a Type-S in the $30s isn't going to happen.
+1
Originally Posted by Costco
Double wishbone
We could be on our way back to the Honda of old between this and the CTR.
Yeah, that's way beyond what Acura did with the new RDX chassis.
Originally Posted by 00TL-P3.2
Maybe for $39,999
SH-AWD V6 TLX starts at $38,200.
Not sure you can bump t o the V6T for $1,200. My guess, is a starting price for the Type-S in the low $40s.
yeah I think somewhere in the 40k range.
Also hope they put Brembo's or some 4 piston front caliper on the Type-S
08-28-2019, 09:43 PM
SpyShots
That really caught my attention.
if Infiniti could not sell 50k Q50Redsport, what makes Acura think they can sell a $60k+ TLX? 
