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“We took as much as we could from the NSX and Acura Precision Concept,” said Ben Davidson, lead designer for the Type S Concept. The Acura Precision Concept was unveiled in 2016, to show the overall brand direction for such Acura models as the new Type S and recently released 2019 RDX. “With Type S, we really wanted to incorporate a practical design philosophy that this is a performance sports sedan—clean, simple, and clear.”
I'm shocked. I gave up on Acura/Honda a while ago. Can't wait til the reveal now.
Not quite the reveal, but:
The all-new 2021 Acura TLX is one of the Japanese luxury brand’s most anticipated vehicles in recent memory, especially because it will spawn a Type S performance variant.
Responsible for this increased interest in Acura’s mid-size sedan is the sensual Acura Type S Concept released in August 2019 at Pebble Beach. The sleek study previews both the regular TLX and the TLX Type S, but the big question is how much of the concept’s looks will find their way on the production TLX?
You’ll be glad to know a lot of the Type S Concept’s appeal will be retained on the 2021 TLX and especially the 2021 TLX Type S. These patent images uncovered by Worldscoop and verified by us with the EUIPO leave little doubt about that.
These official CGIs from last year show the 2021 Acura TLXWhat you see in these official CGIs is, most likely, the regular 2021 Acura TLX. We say that because it lacks typical Type S elements such as an overly aggressive front bumper with big air intakes, a rear diffuser flanked by quad exhausts, and a deck lid spoiler.
Despite that, it looks sporty enough for most people while maintaining an elegant appearance and proportions. Actually, this is not our first look at the 2021 Acura TLX. Back in July 2019, CarScoops broke a story on the new Acura MDX and what we then thought was the upcoming flagship Acura sedan.
However, corroborating these fresh patent images with the 2019 photos we can say for sure that we actually gave you the first look at the 2021 Acura TLX almost one year ago.
While there’s not much official information regarding the 2021 TLX and 2021 TLX Type S, we do know both will be underpinned by a new platform specifically designed for them. Expect a Honda Accord-sourced 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder gasoline unit to be the base engine, matched to a 10-speed automatic transmission. Front-wheel drive will be standard but an AWD variant is also in the cards.
As for the top-dog 2021 Acura TLX Type S, power is expected to come from an all-new twin-turbo V6 engine with significantly more power than the current range-topping TLX’s naturally aspirated 3.5-liter V6 rated at 290 HP and 267 lb-ft (361 Nm) of torque. AWD is understood to come standard on the Type S.
Acura should debut the all-new TLX this summer, with the TLX Type S to likely follow in early 2021.
[img]data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAJCAYAAAA 7KqwyAAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5c cllPAAAABpJREFUeNpi/P//PwMlgImBQjBqwLAwACDAAOVfAw9/ZDvcAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC[/img] May 01, 2020 at 11:16am 4 By: Anthony Alaniz
It looks a lot like the Type S Concept from last summer – and that’s a good thing.
We have a solid idea of what the second-generation 2021 Acura TLX will look like when it arrives. Acura previewed the car last summer with the Type S Concept. Shortly after the concept’s reveal, our spy photographers caught the sedan out testing, which was similar in proportions and shape to the concept. Now, possibly leaked patent images appear to show the 2021 TLX before we’re supposed to see it, and it looks like the concept, too.
There are five patent images, which appeared on the French WorldScoop.forumpro.fr forum, that show the TLX from several different angles, providing a clear look at the next-gen car. It’s also difficult to dismiss the images’ grayscale aesthetic that’s common with patent images. They show a car that looks quite like the Type S Concept, with several small, though noticeable, tweaks.
[img][img]The car in the patent images features the same shape as the concept, which matches with the spy photos we’ve published of the car. The front and rear overhangs appear longer than they do on the concept, though a difference in camera angle could amplify that. The kink in the lower doors carries over, as do the aggressive “intakes” in the lower fascia, though it seems Acura watered them down for the production version.
What We Know About The 2021 TLX:
[img] 2021 Acura TLX Type S To Have Well Over 300 Horsepower: Report
[img] 2021 Acura TLX Spy Photos Provide Best Look Yet At The Interior The rear also looks like the concept, though, again, it’s been toned down for production, according to the alleged patent images. The taillights feature the same design, though not as aggressive as those on the Type S Concept. The outlets in the rear bumper concept carry over, though they’re far less aggressive on in the patent images. There does appear to be enough room in the lower valence for quad exhaust pipes.
Gallery: 2021 Acura TLX Patent Images Leak
5 PhotosWe shouldn’t have to wait long to see the 2021 TLX. It’s set to arrive for the 2021 model year, which means we could see the production version soon. When it arrives, it could use the RDX’s turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine for motivation, though there are rumors of a newly developed turbocharged V6 for Acura. It certainly has the looks – now, Acura needs to give it power.
[img]data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAJCAYAAAA 7KqwyAAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5c cllPAAAABpJREFUeNpi/P//PwMlgImBQjBqwLAwACDAAOVfAw9/ZDvcAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC[/img] May 01, 2020 at 11:16am 4 By: Anthony Alaniz
It looks a lot like the Type S Concept from last summer – and that’s a good thing.
We have a solid idea of what the second-generation 2021 Acura TLX will look like when it arrives. Acura previewed the car last summer with the Type S Concept. Shortly after the concept’s reveal, our spy photographers caught the sedan out testing, which was similar in proportions and shape to the concept. Now, possibly leaked patent images appear to show the 2021 TLX before we’re supposed to see it, and it looks like the concept, too.
There are five patent images, which appeared on the French WorldScoop.forumpro.fr forum, that show the TLX from several different angles, providing a clear look at the next-gen car. It’s also difficult to dismiss the images’ grayscale aesthetic that’s common with patent images. They show a car that looks quite like the Type S Concept, with several small, though noticeable, tweaks. The car in the patent images features the same shape as the concept, which matches with the spy photos we’ve published of the car. The front and rear overhangs appear longer than they do on the concept, though a difference in camera angle could amplify that. The kink in the lower doors carries over, as do the aggressive “intakes” in the lower fascia, though it seems Acura watered them down for the production version.
What We Know About The 2021 TLX:
2021 Acura TLX Type S To Have Well Over 300 Horsepower: Report
2021 Acura TLX Spy Photos Provide Best Look Yet At The Interior The rear also looks like the concept, though, again, it’s been toned down for production, according to the alleged patent images. The taillights feature the same design, though not as aggressive as those on the Type S Concept. The outlets in the rear bumper concept carry over, though they’re far less aggressive on in the patent images. There does appear to be enough room in the lower valence for quad exhaust pipes.
Gallery: 2021 Acura TLX Patent Images Leak
5 PhotosWe shouldn’t have to wait long to see the 2021 TLX. It’s set to arrive for the 2021 model year, which means we could see the production version soon. When it arrives, it could use the RDX’s turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine for motivation, though there are rumors of a newly developed turbocharged V6 for Acura. It certainly has the looks – now, Acura needs to give it power.
Difficult to get an entirely accurate picture of the front clip based on the CGI, but if accurate, disappointing compared to the concept.
Genesis is RWD brand with turbo and V8 with alot more customization with free 3 year maintance. 0% financing upto 84 months. very low resale value after 5 years. all the the ingredients of carbon copy of BMW. I just dont think Genesis or BMW can come close to Acura values.. Current 3 series just dont look upscale for the price. It will be rapidly lose values faster than even previous 3 series.
I estimate next TLX will be size between BMW 3 series and 5 series.
Nothing beats the RLX for worst resale.
April sales
Stinger - 871
TLX - 1,024
And that's w/ the Stinger being at a higher price-point.
April ATP
HMG - $27,493
Honda/Acura - $28,635
Won't be long before HMG surpasses Honda/Acura when it comes to ATP.
April Sales
HMG - 66,479
Honda/Acura - 57,751
Can see the new G80 and TLX being fairly close in sales (w/ the TLX ahead), but the G80 will be at a considerably higher price-point and at a sale pace good enough to take back the 3rd spot from the Audi A6.
Difficult to get an entirely accurate picture of the front clip based on the CGI, but if accurate, disappointing compared to the concept.
Nothing beats the RLX for worst resale.
April sales
Stinger - 871
TLX - 1,024
And that's w/ the Stinger being at a higher price-point.
April ATP
HMG - $27,493
Honda/Acura - $28,635
Won't be long before HMG surpasses Honda/Acura when it comes to ATP.
April Sales
HMG - 66,479
Honda/Acura - 57,751
Can see the new G80 and TLX being fairly close in sales (w/ the TLX ahead), but the G80 will be at a considerably higher price-point and at a sale pace good enough to take back the 3rd spot from the Audi A6.
your is meaningless numbers. Honda has lower inventory with much older vehicles. Fit/HRV/CIVIC/CRV/PILOT all approaching 5 year or more anniversary.
This India. who lose more?
this is so called at home delivery brand with free maintaince.
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Honda has more production capacity dedicated for the US market than H/K.
And even if the age thing is true (it's not), thought that Honda always commanded a premium, regardless of age of fleet?
The Civic and Elantra are about the same age.
The CR-V is newer than the Tucson and Sportage.
The Accord is newer than the Optima; and while the Sonata is newer, the pricier sport (N-line) and hybrid variants are not yet available.
The Passport is newer than the Sorento and Santa Fe.
The Odyssey is newer than the Sedona.
So aside from the Sonata (which is missing its pricier models), it's really only the Palisade and Telluride - and in this case, H/K finally have gotten a competitor for the Pilot.
Honda also has a pick-up, whereas Hyundai still does not.
So what's going to happen when the new Optima and Sorento arrive, as well as the higher priced variants of the Sonata?
Add to that - the GV80, new G80 and GV70?
Honda/Acura has also had the advantage of having a fuller lux lineup, including CUVs.
As for India, the Indian market is not going to closed forever.
However, Honda has already been in a precarious situation in Europe and Australia and the pandemic may very well toss Honda over the edge in those markets.
And over here, despite its significantly higher price tag - almost 4x as many G90s were moved (94) as there were RLXs sold (26).
Not much supply of the G80 left as production of the new model had started a couple of months ago.
Once the new G80 gets here, it should retake the Audi A6 for 3rd place in the segment.
Oh, that's right - Acura really doesn't play in the segment unless one counts the RLX.
Honda has more production capacity dedicated for the US market than H/K.
And even if the age thing is true (it's not), thought that Honda always commanded a premium, regardless of age of fleet?
The Civic and Elantra are about the same age.
The CR-V is newer than the Tucson and Sportage.
The Accord is newer than the Optima; and while the Sonata is newer, the pricier sport (N-line) and hybrid variants are not yet available.
The Passport is newer than the Sorento and Santa Fe.
The Odyssey is newer than the Sedona.
So aside from the Sonata (which is missing its pricier models), it's really only the Palisade and Telluride - and in this case, H/K finally have gotten a competitor for the Pilot.
Honda also has a pick-up, whereas Hyundai still does not.
So what's going to happen when the new Optima and Sorento arrive, as well as the higher priced variants of the Sonata?
Add to that - the GV80, new G80 and GV70?
Honda/Acura has also had the advantage of having a fuller lux lineup, including CUVs.
As for India, the Indian market is not going to closed forever.
However, Honda has already been in a precarious situation in Europe and Australia and the pandemic may very well toss Honda over the edge in those markets.
And over here, despite its significantly higher price tag - almost 4x as many G90s were moved (94) as there were RLXs sold (26).
Not much supply of the G80 left as production of the new model had started a couple of months ago.
Once the new G80 gets here, it should retake the Audi A6 for 3rd place in the segment.
Oh, that's right - Acura really doesn't play in the segment unless one counts the RLX.
How many RLXs were sold?
so now you are combining two brands Hyundai and Kia which Four times vehicle variations (alot of electric and hybrids) compare to Honda/Acura and much newer updates every year and saying Honda can lose money?
The whole Genesis brand cannot compete with one just one Acura TLX. and sellling less than TLX used.
where you get this idea Genesis has higher ATP than Acura. All used Genesis selling same or less price than Acura. there are ton of the on cragislist.
^ There's really no need to use the quote function when your response is the next post.
Autotrader has 25 pages of 2019MY CR-Vs (that's last year's old stock), so let's get over the misleading notion that Honda was hurting for inventory.
If anything, dealerships are bursting w/ inventory which is why they are refusing to take new stock (which are sitting at huge lots by the ports) and are even refusing to take back expired leases.
so now you are combining two brands Hyundai and Kia which Four times vehicle variations (alot of electric and hybrids) compare to Honda/Acura and much newer updates every year and saying Honda can lose money?
Basically the same vehicle but w/ 2 diff. design languages (funny how you didn't brought this up before when HMG wasn't a threat to overtake H/A).
Plus, Honda has far greater production capacity in NA.
Honda can churn out greater quantities of the CR-V than H and K can do of the Tucson and Sportage together.
Fine, let's just count Acura (which many consider to just be Honda+) as a different design language from Honda, take out Genesis and H/K still outsold H/A.
As for electrics, who's fault is that for not developing more BEVs?
And H/K only have 3 which only sell in very low volume (so makes zero diff. to the end result), as there is a battery supply crunch and H/K allocate most of their supply of BEVs to Europe.
As for hybrids, H/A have just as many, if not more - Insight, Clarity, Accord, CR-V (also had the Civic hybrid which was discontinued) and the MDX and RLX hybrids.
H/K have yet to hybridize the Tucson and Sportage.
The whole Genesis brand cannot compete with one just one Acura TLX. and sellling less than TLX used.
Get back to me after the new G80 launches.
Funny how you overlook that the TLX is substantially cheaper than both the G80 and G90 and is even cheaper than the G70.
where you get this idea Genesis has higher ATP than Acura. All used Genesis selling same or less price than Acura. there are ton of the on cragislist.
this is not even Apec or Advance package with SH-AWD
Uhh, ATP is for NEW vehicles.
And considering that each of the 3 Genesis sedans (in order) cost significantly more than the 3 Acura sedans - just common sense that Genesis has a higher ATP.
In addition the upcoming GV80 not only starts $4,400 higher than the MDX, it also goes even higher in price (relative) for its top trim.
What do you think Genesis' ATP will be after the GV80 and the new G80 launch?
It should be well into the $50k range.
In fact, Genesis' ATP, which is right about where Lexus is, should power past Lexus which has a full lineup of CUVs, as well as having 2 BoF SUVs (that's what happens when the bulk of your sales are tarted up FWD-based Toyotas).
Lexus - $49,180
And interesting, for Jan., Hyundai's ATP was higher than Honda's, and Kia's just below.
Hyundai - $27,858
Honda - $27,631
Kia - $27,540
And speaking of supply...
Kia, which went into March with slim inventories, had even fewer vehicles on dealer lots by the end of a strong sales month. It’s down to 43 days of stock. Its plant in Georgia is closed until April 27. In South Korea, Kia plans to suspend operations at its three plants which send exports to the U.S from April 23-29, while management reviews global demand.
Days' supply (end of March)
Honda - 133
Hyundai - 130
Kia - 43
As usual, you just talk out of your arse and not base anything on facts/data.
If anyone was hurting for supply for April sales, it was Kia.
And considering that each of the 3 Genesis sedans (in order) cost significantly more than the 3 Acura sedans - just common sense that Genesis has a higher ATP.
In addition the upcoming GV80 not only starts $4,400 higher than the MDX, it also goes even higher in price (relative) for its top trim.
that's they reason I keep laughing on your common sense. You seriously believe on Genesis/ Hyundai/Kia higher ATP when immediately after the sale the price of car is lower than Acura/Honda.
you don't even know what each dealer is selling a car and what is in demo inventory.
Car is barely driven 50 mile. and after negotiation. it will be at price lower than Honda Accord.
A representative for Hyundai Motor Co. said the South Korean automaker also has experienced elevated West Coast inventories and found additional storage lots to ease pressure on port facilities.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20.../#.Xq4E_kBFzIU Japan carmakers will recover fast with Honda buy rating, Goldman says Honda is well-positioned for a recovery, however, thanks to “its compelling near-trough valuation post its recent correction, as well as its solid balance sheet, exposure to a recovering China, model cycle benefits, limited Europe carbon dioxide risk, and motorcycle earnings support,” the analysts said.
So, after I have proven you wrong once again, that's all you've got?
What does used prices have anything to do w/ new auto sales and ATP?
Plus. we already did this on the Sales, Marketing, etc. thread where other posters showed the abysmal resale value on the RLX (really need to compare the resale of the G80 w/ the RLX as they are at the same price-point).
Regardless, Genesis' ATP is in line w/ Lexus and Infiniti (and that's w/o having any CUVs yet) and the ATP for all 3 is about $10k higher than Acura's.
As a brand, Acura has had 30+ years of head start and yet Genesis is available in more countries (w/ China and Europe to be added in the near future).
While think Acura is finding some of its mojo back w/ the RDX and the next TLX, Mazda w/ its upcoming RWD platform and I6 motor will be a major threat (likely will have competing offerings at a similar price-point).
When did I say that Hyundai had low inventory?
Factually proved that Hyundai's inventory was similar (a little lower) to that as Honda's (at the end of March).
But that it was Kia that had a lower than typical days supply.
Every automaker has tons of new cars sitting at lots near the ports.
The head of Hyundai NA had Hyundai ship more vehicles to the US thinking that sales/market conditions will recover sooner than later (we'll see about that).
It has paid off in sales of the Tucson which really didn't see a drop-off.
But going forward, Hyundai will concentrate on what is selling in Korea (as sales are pretty much back to normal), so that means increased production of the G80, GV80 and Palisade (all high margin models).
What does used prices have anything to do w/ new auto sales and ATP?
just look at what happen to Nissan\Infiniti resale values when they were selling in creative ways new vehicles. you cannot even know whether dealer bought it new and sold as used. or sold it to rental fleet on backroom deal.
EU is big on Fleet deals and Honda practically taking back foot in that market. No more factories there. Direct Japan imports mostly hybrids or electric. No more diesels.
This time G90 Ultimate at half price in 3 years with only 27k miles. i can assure you you wont find the high end versions of Acuras at half prices so soon.
We previously tested a TLX V-6 SH-AWD A-Spec back in 2018, and as you might expect, hand assembly does nothing to improve that car's lukewarm driving experience. This is not an authentic sports sedan and only a somewhat convincing luxury car. Honda's own front-drive Accord equipped with its optional 2.0-liter turbo-four and 10-speed automatic will not only beat the PMC's high-five-second time to 60 mph, but it also out-grips the Acura around the skidpad and is about as nice inside. The TLX's nine-speed automatic is particularly lazy with its pronounced pauses between gear changes even when in its most aggressive Sport+ drive mode. Although the agility and control afforded by the SH-AWD system when you hammer the car out of a corner is definitely appreciated, the lack of a summer-tire option means the TLX's all-seasons run out of adhesion long before any serious fun starts. Rumor has it that the redesigned TLX will have an optional twin-turbo V-6, 10-speed automatic, and will bring back the Type S performance variant. If that's all true, the next TLX can't come soon enough.
An update to the TLX's interior will be equally welcome. Not that the PMC's cabin is unattractive. There's a satisfyingly chunky steering wheel, red stitching and details provide some contrast and color, and the front seats are nicely bolstered and have suede inserts. But the materials and switchgear look and feel commensurate with the base TLX's $34,025 price, not the PMC’s more than $50K ask.
The new TLX should address many of the shortcomings, but really don't see what a PMC edition would bring to the table (unless Acura tunes the engine for more power and makes the interior more special).
On Thursday, May 28, at 1 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Acura will debut the new 2021 Acura TLX to the world via video. The current TLX joined the Acura lineup in 2014 as a 2015 model and, frankly, is showing its age. Acura exacerbated that fact when it released the all-new RDX SUV in 2018 that, in several ways, outshines the performance sedan, even dynamically.
The 2021 TLX intends to correct that with new looks that fully reflect the brand’s latest design language. We also have confirmation that the Type S performance variant is joining the TLX lineup. Acura revealed a Type S concept in the summer of 2019 at The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering event ahead of the Pebble Beach Concours.
That TLX Type S will feature a new, Acura-only 3.0-liter turbocharged V6 engine. Given that Honda's 2.0-liter four makes 306 hp in the Civic Type R, we could see a TLX Type S 3.0-liter V6 in the neighborhood of 425 hp, though that's just speculation at this point.
From the one view Acura offered, we can see the 2021 TLX will feature broader hips, swoopy taillights and a generally sleeker rear end. In the case of the Type S, look for dual-exhaust with four exhaust tips to extend out from the back on either side of what looks like a potentially functional rear diffuser.
We’ll learn more in a week. Acura certainly has whet our appetites though.
Looks good so far! I'm surprised they didn't continue the tail light beam across the whole back like so many other cars these days. Excited to see how they fuck it up though!
Acura claims the 2021 TLX will be the "quickest, best-handling, and most well-appointed sport sedan in Acura history." The experts at Autoblog won't be able to put that statement to the test for several months, but all signs thus far are positive. After showing off the rear of the car a week ago, Acura just released a new teaser of the front fascia. Along with the photo, Acura announced the upcoming TLX will use its own brand-exclusive sports sedan platform and will have a double wishbone front suspension.
Before the 2021 TLX's digital unveiling that will take place, May 28 at 1:00 p.m. EST (10:00 a.m. PDT) on Acura.com, Honda's luxury branch has slowly been releasing enticing tidbits about the all-new four-door. The teasers show the car will look very similar to the beautiful Type S Concept, and a Type S performance variant will use a powerful turbocharged 3.0-liter V6.
The new teaser focuses on the car's handling. In addition to the crude silhouette of the car's front end, the dark image shows that the TLX will ditch the Macpherson struts and use double wishbone control arms for the front suspension. Although the TLX nameplate is not old, as it first debuted for the 2015 model year as a replacement to the TL and TSX, this is a return-to-roots type of move.
Nice front end, going back to the old school Honda/Acura double wishbone front suspension (first appearing on the 2G Prelude 1983) with a tall steering knuckle and high upper ball joint and pivot bushing.
This TLX looks even wider than RLX. it a BMW 5 series car.
TLX with lower ride height, performance tires and atleast 10% less weight than RLX hyrid should goes closer to 4 second or under.
how it it is low bar. Acura RLX sport hybrid is very quick car.
This TLX looks even wider than RLX. it a BMW 5 series car.
TLX with lower ride height, performance tires and atleast 10% less weight than RLX hyrid should goes closer to 4 second or under.
4.9s to 60? That's slower than my economy car that costs tens of thousands less.
Originally Posted by oonowindoo
you wanna bet your life saving on TLX being a 4 sec or under car?
You know RLX Hybrid is fast off the line because of the battery, which TLX does not have?
I sure hope he takes you up on this.
Maybe the bet should be if he loses, he has to actually go buy a RLX sport hybrid.
04-18-2020, 11:40 AM
These official CGIs from last year show the 2021 Acura TLXWhat you see in these official CGIs is, most likely, the regular 2021 Acura TLX. We say that because it lacks typical Type S elements such as an overly aggressive front bumper with big air intakes, a rear diffuser flanked by quad exhausts, and a deck lid spoiler.
Patent
i was just about it to say....
Can't wait for the 28th....