Acura: TLX News
#8281
Moderator
i dont get the honda plus sentiment. have you ever been in a honda? its feels nothing like an acura. you could add plus plus plus plus to an interior of a honda and it still wouldnt like an acura. while it might lack the "Wow" factor the quality , fit and finish are top notch. the controls are very intuitive.
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#8282
Senior Moderator
Sigh. Call me when we have a TLX-S. Lots of nice tech, and the interior is pretty good, but they dulled the exterior somewhat from the concept car. I'm sure it will grow on me eventually, but I don't think I'll be a buyer.
Meanwhile, RLXs with Navi, used, less than 10k miles, are going for $35k, yes, $35k, at multiple dealers. That is the luxury steal of the year.
And yes, I'm the nitwit who actually likes the RLX, especially with a decent set of wheels.
Meanwhile, RLXs with Navi, used, less than 10k miles, are going for $35k, yes, $35k, at multiple dealers. That is the luxury steal of the year.
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#8283
I feel the need...
I'm not even sure they need "radical". Lets start with using real aluminum, real wood and upgraded user interface/graphics on navi (for example).
And I agree with Ken, hands down the best value in HondAcura's line up right now is the Accord Touring. According to carsdirect, I can scoop up one for 31k right now and probably could negotiate better.
#8284
The sizzle in the Steak
i dont get the honda plus sentiment. have you ever been in a honda? its feels nothing like an acura. you could add plus plus plus plus to an interior of a honda and it still wouldnt like an acura. while it might lack the "Wow" factor the quality , fit and finish are top notch. the controls are very intuitive.
Come on now, be serious.
#8285
Azine Jabroni
i dont get the honda plus sentiment. have you ever been in a honda? its feels nothing like an acura. you could add plus plus plus plus to an interior of a honda and it still wouldnt like an acura. while it might lack the "Wow" factor the quality , fit and finish are top notch. the controls are very intuitive.
#8286
The sizzle in the Steak
I'm not even sure they need "radical". Lets start with using real aluminum, real wood and upgraded user interface/graphics on navi (for example).
And I agree with Ken, hands down the best value in HondAcura's line up right now is the Accord Touring. According to carsdirect, I can scoop up one for 31k right now and probably could negotiate better.
And I agree with Ken, hands down the best value in HondAcura's line up right now is the Accord Touring. According to carsdirect, I can scoop up one for 31k right now and probably could negotiate better.
They need their own unique design language, inside and out.
Honda + has been a drag on the brand for a decade +
#8287
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i dont get the honda plus sentiment. have you ever been in a honda? its feels nothing like an acura. you could add plus plus plus plus to an interior of a honda and it still wouldnt like an acura. while it might lack the "Wow" factor the quality , fit and finish are top notch. the controls are very intuitive.
The difference isn't THAT great. It's not like the leather a night/day difference or Acura uses deep lamb's wool carpeting or handcrafted wood.
It's exactly what you expect in a higher price bracket, just another step up
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It's not an insult nor a compliment really.
#8288
Moderator
I call dibs!
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#8289
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And it's why I'm hoping the new reshuffled management will be a good thing and lead to exactly this. It may be 4 or 5 years though until we see such an improvement though..
#8291
Senior Moderator
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Acura will not have great success with this car. While they may hit the 45K target in year one (may). They will not do it in subsequent years.
Not without some significant improvements.
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#8292
The sizzle in the Steak
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Let's hope you are right.
Who would have thought it would take nearly 2 decades to turn the brand around.........wow.
#8293
AZ Community Team
I'm not even sure they need "radical". Lets start with using real aluminum, real wood and upgraded user interface/graphics on navi (for example).
And I agree with Ken, hands down the best value in HondAcura's line up right now is the Accord Touring. According to carsdirect, I can scoop up one for 31k right now and probably could negotiate better.
And I agree with Ken, hands down the best value in HondAcura's line up right now is the Accord Touring. According to carsdirect, I can scoop up one for 31k right now and probably could negotiate better.
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#8294
I feel the need...
#8295
The sizzle in the Steak
The brand needed a home run. What they got is a single.....but the guy did round first and got halfway to second....then turned around when he knew he couldn't get the double.
Nice effort
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Could have been worse....could have got caught looking on a 3rd strike call.
#8296
The sizzle in the Steak
If they are not going to deliver, then just shutter the brand, put the MDX, RLX under the Honda badge (ala Hyundai Genesis, Equus) and be done with it.
#8298
Moderator
#8299
Go Giants
So I shouldn't get this?
#8300
I feel the need...
You hittin' the bong pretty hard these days again? ![Tongue](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
They are perfectly capable of building great cars again. They can start by firing their wacky SoCal design team and putting the Power Plenum to pasture. Then they can redirect investments from HondaJet and ASSIMO back to their core strength.
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They are perfectly capable of building great cars again. They can start by firing their wacky SoCal design team and putting the Power Plenum to pasture. Then they can redirect investments from HondaJet and ASSIMO back to their core strength.
#8302
AZ Community Team
And a 3G TL was not a frosted up Accord either, quite individual in many ways from driving/styling/components/...
The last 5 years yeah, but a decade +?
No the mid 2000's was when Acura was on the right track from both the car and SUV point of view. Then the cars got lost, while the SUV's continued on
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#8303
The sizzle in the Steak
You hittin' the bong pretty hard these days again? ![Tongue](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
They are perfectly capable of building great cars again. They can start by firing their wacky SoCal design team and putting the Power Plenum to pasture. Then they can redirect investments from HondaJet and ASSIMO back to their core strength.
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They are perfectly capable of building great cars again. They can start by firing their wacky SoCal design team and putting the Power Plenum to pasture. Then they can redirect investments from HondaJet and ASSIMO back to their core strength.
Pass the pipe, yo!
#8304
The sizzle in the Steak
When Acura was selling 80K 3G TL's, that's not a drag.
And a 3G TL was not a frosted up Accord either, quite individual in many ways from driving/styling/components/...
The last 5 years yeah, but a decade +?
No the mid 2000's was when Acura was on the right track from both the car and SUV point of view. Then the cars got lost, while the SUV's continued on![2 Cents](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/2cents.gif)
And a 3G TL was not a frosted up Accord either, quite individual in many ways from driving/styling/components/...
The last 5 years yeah, but a decade +?
No the mid 2000's was when Acura was on the right track from both the car and SUV point of view. Then the cars got lost, while the SUV's continued on
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CL....buh bye
RSX...buh bye.
RL...umm no thanks.
TL 3G....sure.
MDX...sure
TSX...pretty good, but still Accord +
Mid 2000's were when it started to go off the rails.
#8305
Go Giants
#8307
I feel the need...
#8309
The sizzle in the Steak
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#8311
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#8313
I feel the need...
If you dare, turn back the thread about 20 pages for peeps getting butthurt because I dared asked the question: Is it really that much of a let down?
I see a bunch of incremental improvements with less chrome and no side skirts. Net/net a mild positive and a step forward.
I see a bunch of incremental improvements with less chrome and no side skirts. Net/net a mild positive and a step forward.
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#8315
AZ Community Team
Totally disagree, it's when Acura actually got a reasonable product family and was selling alot of cars and SUV's. Today they're still ahead of Audi despite their cars.
#8316
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ Who's speaking of sales figures?
...oh yea, just you.
...oh yea, just you.
#8317
AZ Community Team
#8318
Instructor
Count me a fan of this car. The 2.4L competes with the IS250 and the 3.5L competes with the IS350. The TLX offers better performance and better MPGs than the IS, and I'm sure the 2.4L I4 with 8 speed DCT is way more exciting than the Lexus 2.5L V6. Throw in Honda reliability which can't be said for any of the German cars and this car is smart buy. I'm not sure what more people expected?
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I feel the need...
#8320
The sizzle in the Steak
...because the complaints in this thread are about sales figures...![Snicker](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/emot-laugh.gif)
ok.....
...but I know, the apologists will always point to the sales numbers to deflect from the topics at hand.
It's an old tactic.
...but keep running with it if you think it works.
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ok.....
...but I know, the apologists will always point to the sales numbers to deflect from the topics at hand.
It's an old tactic.
...but keep running with it if you think it works.
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