Acura: TLX News
04-17-2014, 12:37 PM
#8401
sales numbers say that if the tlx is even mildly successful acura will be 4th luxury manufacturer to eclipse 400k units in a year. so... if the sales numbers are so horrible where are the rest of makes on this list?
04-17-2014, 12:45 PM
#8402
The sizzle in the Steak
All of you need to eat before you talk!
04-17-2014, 12:57 PM
#8403
Team Owner
2013
MBZ 334,350
BMW (not including Mini)309,280
Lexus 273,847
Cadillac 182,543
Acura sold 165,436
Audi 158,061
Infiniti 116,455
If we remove SUV sales from all these brand, Acura will be competing with Infiniti for dead last.
so,If you want Acura to be a soccer mom SUV brand, then yes Acura is successful.
04-17-2014, 01:04 PM
#8405
Wow...this has the makings of a great Accord!
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04-17-2014, 01:11 PM
#8406
Team Owner
If you don't care about brand at all, try Honda accord. It has 90%+ of what the TL(X) has with $10k cheaper.
04-17-2014, 01:15 PM
#8408
Team Owner
yes we all did. But that has not topped his "RLX with all season tires is faster than F10 M5" yet.
So we will ignore him until he comes up with something more original than V6 accord is faster than 335.
So we will ignore him until he comes up with something more original than V6 accord is faster than 335.
04-17-2014, 01:37 PM
#8410
Team Owner
honestly, with a drop this car would be sexy, I don't really care what all the armchair racers say:
of course not, everyone knows that real racers are only interested in brand caché.
fwiw, I'll decide what car is right for me, and you can decide what car is right for you. thanks.
04-17-2014, 01:48 PM
#8412
AZ Community Team
In this thread there are 281 posts by you, 77 by meYou should follow your advice
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04-17-2014, 01:49 PM
#8413
Team Owner
No that is why i said 90%+ not 100%. FYI this FWD TLX does not SHAWD either.
you need someone like SSFTXX to sell you a car:
"why get other brands when you can have Superior ground clearance, skinny all season tires and 30mpg"
FYI, most of us are not Anti-Acura, only fanboyz will think that way. If the car is good then it is good, if it is mediocre then it is just that.
We have plenty of good things to say about MDX, 3G TL, 2G TL, Legend, NSX and Integra. So far every car we did not like has proven to be a failure for Acura: ZDX, ILX, 4G TL, RLX, RL.
TLX: i haven't seen 1 post from anyone that says TLX is ugly or as bad as 4G TL. Everyone is just saying Meh....
you need someone like SSFTXX to sell you a car:
"why get other brands when you can have Superior ground clearance, skinny all season tires and 30mpg"
FYI, most of us are not Anti-Acura, only fanboyz will think that way. If the car is good then it is good, if it is mediocre then it is just that.
We have plenty of good things to say about MDX, 3G TL, 2G TL, Legend, NSX and Integra. So far every car we did not like has proven to be a failure for Acura: ZDX, ILX, 4G TL, RLX, RL.
TLX: i haven't seen 1 post from anyone that says TLX is ugly or as bad as 4G TL. Everyone is just saying Meh....
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04-17-2014, 01:59 PM
#8414
We will ignore him until inevitably someone else takes him seriously, quotes him, then wastes their time writing a detailed response.
04-17-2014, 02:25 PM
#8415
AZ Community Team
As an example, the TLX two-wheel-drive with the 3.5-liter V-6 Technology Package model has a curb weight just under 3600 pounds, about 145 pounds lighter than the TL Technology Package model.
Last edited by Legend2TL; 04-17-2014 at 02:29 PM.
04-17-2014, 02:48 PM
#8416
Moderator
Motor Trend's preliminary comments were relatively positive: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...sp_rid=5658308
04-17-2014, 02:58 PM
#8417
Azine Jabroni
Motor Trend's preliminary comments were relatively positive: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...sp_rid=5658308
04-17-2014, 03:29 PM
#8418
The sizzle in the Steak
77...not bad. Plenty of 'em.
...and with my high post count you should be easily able to find all the posts about how Acura can/may get back on the right track....psst again...even a couple of pages back.
...but just like your last post, you ignore, you won't talk of it...it does not fit your narrative.
Keep on clowning it up.....one clown got banned, you gotta take his place.
...and with my high post count you should be easily able to find all the posts about how Acura can/may get back on the right track....psst again...even a couple of pages back.
...but just like your last post, you ignore, you won't talk of it...it does not fit your narrative.
Keep on clowning it up.....one clown got banned, you gotta take his place.
04-17-2014, 03:34 PM
#8419
The sizzle in the Steak
Motor Trend's preliminary comments were relatively positive: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...sp_rid=5658308
Triple door seals, Active Noise Control, and an acoustic glass windshield might help the TLX meet the "vault-like" quietness we've been told is part of the package.
04-17-2014, 03:52 PM
#8420
Azine Jabroni
04-17-2014, 03:52 PM
#8421
Instructor
Motor Trend's preliminary comments were relatively positive: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...sp_rid=5658308
Honda has never been about the best HP numbers, so I'm not too surprised by the TLX offerings. I'm also not of the opinion that the lack of a turbo means the engine is behind the times. I'm a fan of both of these drivetrains. They are powerful enough to get the job done, likely get better real world MPGs than their turbo counterparts, and will be Japanese reliable. It's a different type of engine than a turbo, but in my opinion it's not any bit inferior.
04-17-2014, 03:55 PM
#8422
Senior Moderator
Some people, IMO, seem to be stuck inside a Honda/Acura vacuum and simply don't know what else is out there in the automotive world. I was there once, owning nothing but Honda's and Acura's until I was about 32. There are other cars in the world, you should try them sometime instead of blindly defending every decision H/A makes as if they're infallible. 
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04-17-2014, 04:00 PM
#8423
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Some people, IMO, seem to stuck inside a Honda/Acura vacuum and simply don't know what else is out there in the automotive world. I was there once, owning nothing but Honda's and Acura's until I was about 32. There are other cars in the world, you should try them sometime instead of blindly defending every decision H/A makes as if they're infallible.
04-17-2014, 04:05 PM
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There is just so much good competition out there right now. From brands no one would have even taken seriously even 5 years ago.
And while I might hated on for saying...Buick and even the new Chrysler 200 offer competing sedans which are far more enticing to look at inside and out, and offer a shit load of cutting edge tech for the money.
Since Acura made that announcement they are going to attempt to distance themselves from Honda, I think it will be at least one model generation before we really see anything come of that...will it be too late? Will they reallllly be allowed to separate themselves that much?
It seems like at least one person in Acura is listening outside of their exclusive little bubble...but can that one person make a difference? Time will tell.
04-17-2014, 04:08 PM
#8425
I drive a Subata.
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Honda has never been about the best HP numbers, so I'm not too surprised by the TLX offerings. I'm also not of the opinion that the lack of a turbo means the engine is behind the times. I'm a fan of both of these drivetrains. They are powerful enough to get the job done, likely get better real world MPGs than their turbo counterparts, and will be Japanese reliable. It's a different type of engine than a turbo, but in my opinion it's not any bit inferior.
04-17-2014, 04:10 PM
#8426
Moderator
Some people, IMO, seem to be stuck inside a Honda/Acura vacuum and simply don't know what else is out there in the automotive world. I was there once, owning nothing but Honda's and Acura's until I was about 32. There are other cars in the world, you should try them sometime instead of blindly defending every decision H/A makes as if they're infallible.
04-17-2014, 04:10 PM
#8427
Some people, IMO, seem to be stuck inside a Honda/Acura vacuum and simply don't know what else is out there in the automotive world. I was there once, owning nothing but Honda's and Acura's until I was about 32. There are other cars in the world, you should try them sometime instead of blindly defending every decision H/A makes as if they're infallible.
04-17-2014, 04:13 PM
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04-17-2014, 04:15 PM
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04-17-2014, 04:18 PM
#8431
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77...not bad. Plenty of 'em.
...and with my high post count you should be easily able to find all the posts about how Acura can/may get back on the right track....psst again...even a couple of pages back.
...but just like your last post, you ignore, you won't talk of it...it does not fit your narrative.
Keep on clowning it up.....one clown got banned, you gotta take his place.
...and with my high post count you should be easily able to find all the posts about how Acura can/may get back on the right track....psst again...even a couple of pages back.
...but just like your last post, you ignore, you won't talk of it...it does not fit your narrative.
Keep on clowning it up.....one clown got banned, you gotta take his place.
Presented the same scenario to you a few years back and you came up empty then.
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04-17-2014, 04:20 PM
#8432
Team Owner
They cannot accept the fact that there are better cars out there regardless if it is Infiniti, BMW, Audi, Lexus or even Hyundai.
When compared with Germans, they claim brand is the only reason why 3/4 series are so successful. Acura is a much better value buy.
When compared with a true value buy -> Hyundai , they have the it is still a Hyundai mentality.
Like i said earlier, hypocrites....
When compared with Germans, they claim brand is the only reason why 3/4 series are so successful. Acura is a much better value buy.
When compared with a true value buy -> Hyundai , they have the it is still a Hyundai mentality.
Like i said earlier, hypocrites....
04-17-2014, 04:25 PM
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They cannot accept the fact that there are better cars out there regardless if it is Infiniti, BMW, Audi, Lexus or even Hyundai.
When compared with Germans, they claim brand is the only reason why 3/4 series are so successful. Acura is a much better value buy.
When compared with a true value buy -> Hyundai , they have the it is still a Hyundai mentality.
Like i said earlier, hypocrites....
When compared with Germans, they claim brand is the only reason why 3/4 series are so successful. Acura is a much better value buy.
When compared with a true value buy -> Hyundai , they have the it is still a Hyundai mentality.
Like i said earlier, hypocrites....
04-17-2014, 04:35 PM
#8434
Team Owner
K900....I dont know how Hyundai can make $$ from cars like Equus and K900.
I would highly recommend anyone who hasn't been inside of a Equus to check it out in person. Sit in the front and sit in the back. Wow was an understatement.
Then you will question how can RLX and Equus cost roughly the same...
I would highly recommend anyone who hasn't been inside of a Equus to check it out in person. Sit in the front and sit in the back. Wow was an understatement.
Then you will question how can RLX and Equus cost roughly the same...
04-17-2014, 04:56 PM
#8435
The sizzle in the Steak
04-17-2014, 04:58 PM
#8436
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04-17-2014, 05:01 PM
#8437
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K900....I dont know how Hyundai can make $$ from cars like Equus and K900.
I would highly recommend anyone who hasn't been inside of a Equus to check it out in person. Sit in the front and sit in the back. Wow was an understatement.
Then you will question how can RLX and Equus cost roughly the same...
I would highly recommend anyone who hasn't been inside of a Equus to check it out in person. Sit in the front and sit in the back. Wow was an understatement.
Then you will question how can RLX and Equus cost roughly the same...
I didn't mention the k900 because of the price and size.
Cadenza is more tlx territory.
04-17-2014, 05:03 PM
#8438
The sizzle in the Steak
There is just so much good competition out there right now. From brands no one would have even taken seriously even 5 years ago.
And while I might hated on for saying...Buick and even the new Chrysler 200 offer competing sedans which are far more enticing to look at inside and out, and offer a shit load of cutting edge tech for the money.
Since Acura made that announcement they are going to attempt to distance themselves from Honda, I think it will be at least one model generation before we really see anything come of that...will it be too late? Will they reallllly be allowed to separate themselves that much?
It seems like at least one person in Acura is listening outside of their exclusive little bubble...but can that one person make a difference? Time will tell.
If there is a will and a direction from the top down, brands can change.
Just look at Hyundai, Kia, Dodge, Jeep, Chrysler, Ford......
Brands mocked mercilessly, and rightfully so back in the day, and now at the top of their game.
If....and that is a BIG "if" Acura can distance themselves from the Honda machine, and push for being on par with and class beating, we will see it in +/-5 years.
Talk is cheap with Acura, they've been all over the board from Tier 1, to all sorts of nonsense.....even with their product :cough: ZDX :cough:
No more talk....just show the product.
...besides when Acura reps talk, everyone
...boy was that TLX NY Autoshow debut a sleeper.
Start with a BIG MMC for the TLX, and then new RLX, MDX, RDX....ditch the ILX, or get a new platform for it.....perhaps mix it up with a coupe?
...let's not get crazy now
04-17-2014, 05:17 PM
#8439
Team Owner
04-17-2014, 05:42 PM
#8440
Instructor
Some people, IMO, seem to be stuck inside a Honda/Acura vacuum and simply don't know what else is out there in the automotive world. I was there once, owning nothing but Honda's and Acura's until I was about 32. There are other cars in the world, you should try them sometime instead of blindly defending every decision H/A makes as if they're infallible.
By the same token you have people dismissing a car simply because it doesn't have turbo or RWD. I agree that the ILX and RLX are weak sauce. ILX is a sorry excuse of an entry level car and RLX is a bloated boat. My dad has an 04 TSX and honestly I don't like that car very much despite how well it was reviewed. I think the TLX is well done though. The 2.4L for example, looks to be very competitive with the IS250, 320, 325, CLA250. I mean, you have the CLA250 which needs a turbo 2.0L just to get 208hp. Is that better than a N/A 2.4L which puts out the same power? Not really.