I'm not gonna go into fuel economy and stuff. Just trying to show that the weight is not quite at 3700lb.

Problem with current Accord Euro is diesel it that it weighs 3700lbs and 2.2 diesel engine. while the German diesels are at 3100lbs. Its 600lbs gap in weight. Next A4 diesel even lighter.

Here are the numbers again from Car and Driver and Honda OFFICIAL UK website:

1G TSX Diesel 6MT: 3297lb (1499kg)
2G TSX/euro accord Diesel 6MT: 3388lb (1540kg)
2G TSX/euro accord Diesel 5AT: 3507lb (1594kg)
US CRV LX 5AT 2WD: 3305lb
US CRV LX 5AT AWD: 3426lb

Base vs base, the CRV LX is indeed lighter than the Euro Accord diesel AT?

Your original quote was this,


I never claimed that the above numbers are for base trim, or top trim. Obviously top trims will be heavier. Now, are those German diesels the base trim, or top trim? Will the top trim of those models also be heavier? Again, the A4 base trim unladen weight is 3333lb. What's the curb weight of a loaded version then?

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