Acura: TLX News
09-16-2014, 06:06 PM
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Exactly.
Oh how will Acura compete?
Oh how will Acura differentiate itself from the market place?
Oh how will Acura ever sell a midsize near-luxer again?
Simple, by offering standard goodies such as LED headlights, an 8spd DCT, the option of Super Handling AWD, yada~yada. All at significantly less than a stripper German and offering more fun than a Hyundai Azera or Lincoln MKZ.
Haters gotta hate.
Oh how will Acura compete?
Oh how will Acura differentiate itself from the market place?
Oh how will Acura ever sell a midsize near-luxer again?
Simple, by offering standard goodies such as LED headlights, an 8spd DCT, the option of Super Handling AWD, yada~yada. All at significantly less than a stripper German and offering more fun than a Hyundai Azera or Lincoln MKZ.
Haters gotta hate.
both of those offer a lot more than its competitors for less.....
So how are they doing right now?
09-16-2014, 06:47 PM
I feel the need...
You won't find me defending the RLX, I'm already on record on my opinions for that car if you care. My 4G 6MT has been more than adequate as a daily driver and I've enjoyed 70,000 care free miles on it.
Name another 38k car which offers better value/performance for a 5.2 sec car to 60 and great all-weather commuter and great reliability.
09-16-2014, 07:08 PM
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This isn't the RLX thread or 4G TL thread. This is the TLX thread.
You won't find me defending the RLX, I'm already on record on my opinions for that car if you care. My 4G 6MT has been more than adequate as a daily driver and I've enjoyed 70,000 care free miles on it.
Name another 38k car which offers better value/performance for a 5.2 sec car to 60 and great all-weather commuter and great reliability.
You won't find me defending the RLX, I'm already on record on my opinions for that car if you care. My 4G 6MT has been more than adequate as a daily driver and I've enjoyed 70,000 care free miles on it.
Name another 38k car which offers better value/performance for a 5.2 sec car to 60 and great all-weather commuter and great reliability.
better value? that is pure subjective. What is a better value? is Accord a better value than TLX? are 10 Corolla combined better value than a Bentley CGT?
Many people value BRAND more than anything, others value RWD and 6mt, then there are others value the way the car make you feel and the premium service you receive. Of course you can also say you value options.
Lastly, you having 70,000 carefree miles in your 4G does not change the fact that 4G TL was a failure as a business product. It had the same advantage over its competitors as TLX.
The only reason TLX will have better sale # than 4G TL is because of the price of the 4 banger, which i think it is a great product at low 30k. Other $45k TLX will suffer similar fate as 4G TL, IMO. $45k is really not a lot of $$ for a car in that segment but if Acura could only sell cars at $30-40k but can't even sell a car at $45k like hotcakes, then i don't know if that is a good sign or a bad sign.
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09-16-2014, 07:29 PM
I feel the need...
better value? that is pure subjective. What is a better value? is Accord a better value than TLX? are 10 Corolla combined better value than a Bentley CGT? Many people value BRAND more than anything, others value RWD and 6mt, then there are others value the way the car make you feel and the premium service you receive. Of course you can also say you value options.
Lastly, you having 70,000 carefree miles in your 4G does not change the fact that 4G TL was a failure as a business product. It had the same advantage over its competitors as TLX.
The only reason TLX will have better sale # than 4G TL is because of the price of the 4 banger, which i think it is a great product at low 30k. Other $45k TLX will suffer similar fate as 4G TL, IMO. $45k is really not a lot of $$ for a car in that segment but if Acura could only sell cars at $30-40k but can't even sell a car at $45k like hotcakes, then i don't know if that is a good sign or a bad sign.
09-16-2014, 07:50 PM
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This isn't the RLX thread or 4G TL thread. This is the TLX thread.
You won't find me defending the RLX, I'm already on record on my opinions for that car if you care. My 4G 6MT has been more than adequate as a daily driver and I've enjoyed 70,000 care free miles on it.
Name another 38k car which offers better value/performance for a 5.2 sec car to 60 and great all-weather commuter and great reliability.
You won't find me defending the RLX, I'm already on record on my opinions for that car if you care. My 4G 6MT has been more than adequate as a daily driver and I've enjoyed 70,000 care free miles on it.
Name another 38k car which offers better value/performance for a 5.2 sec car to 60 and great all-weather commuter and great reliability.
(comes in AWD, too)
09-16-2014, 07:58 PM
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This isn't the RLX thread or 4G TL thread. This is the TLX thread.
You won't find me defending the RLX, I'm already on record on my opinions for that car if you care. My 4G 6MT has been more than adequate as a daily driver and I've enjoyed 70,000 care free miles on it.
Name another 38k car which offers better value/performance for a 5.2 sec car to 60 and great all-weather commuter and great reliability.
You won't find me defending the RLX, I'm already on record on my opinions for that car if you care. My 4G 6MT has been more than adequate as a daily driver and I've enjoyed 70,000 care free miles on it.
Name another 38k car which offers better value/performance for a 5.2 sec car to 60 and great all-weather commuter and great reliability.
09-16-2014, 08:00 PM
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I was talking about my 6MT, we have no idea how fast the TLX SH-AWD will be yet.
Better value to ME for the price I'm willing to spend for a commuter which will take daily abuse. Buy what make sense for YOU. At the end of the day, I'm a tightwad when it comes to spending money on cars. Can I afford more, absolutely. Do I care to? Not really.
I'm not a major shareholder in HMC and could care less if it was a failure. At the time it was a great value so I grabbed it.
Blah~blah. I'll let the marketers worry about share and I'll let badge whores care about badge. I'm not pre-sold on a TLX. I'll cross shop, compare and make a rational decision. My decision won't be influenced by what my neighbors think and if anyone looks down on me for driving a Honda product (if thats what I choose). I could care less.
Better value to ME for the price I'm willing to spend for a commuter which will take daily abuse. Buy what make sense for YOU. At the end of the day, I'm a tightwad when it comes to spending money on cars. Can I afford more, absolutely. Do I care to? Not really.
I'm not a major shareholder in HMC and could care less if it was a failure. At the time it was a great value so I grabbed it.
Blah~blah. I'll let the marketers worry about share and I'll let badge whores care about badge. I'm not pre-sold on a TLX. I'll cross shop, compare and make a rational decision. My decision won't be influenced by what my neighbors think and if anyone looks down on me for driving a Honda product (if thats what I choose). I could care less.
That is all fine. But why are we haters when our values are different than yours?
As a business, shouldn't Acura welcome all opinions? fanboyism and criticism alike? Yes, we haters don't drive Acura, but i have 2 Honda cars parking on the driveway right now. So if Acura wants to increase their sales #, they will have to get the increased #s from somewhere. They aint gonna appear out of nowhere.
Exactly.
Oh how will Acura compete?
Oh how will Acura differentiate itself from the market place?
Oh how will Acura ever sell a midsize near-luxer again?
Simple, by offering standard goodies such as LED headlights, an 8spd DCT, the option of Super Handling AWD, yada~yada. All at significantly less than a stripper German and offering more fun than a Hyundai Azera or Lincoln MKZ.
Haters gotta hate.
Oh how will Acura compete?
Oh how will Acura differentiate itself from the market place?
Oh how will Acura ever sell a midsize near-luxer again?
Simple, by offering standard goodies such as LED headlights, an 8spd DCT, the option of Super Handling AWD, yada~yada. All at significantly less than a stripper German and offering more fun than a Hyundai Azera or Lincoln MKZ.
Haters gotta hate.
09-16-2014, 09:41 PM
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09-16-2014, 09:54 PM
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Can you guys just put Fibonacci on ignore list?
And can you, Fibonacci, put all of us on ignore list?
That'll make things much cleaner.
And can you, Fibonacci, put all of us on ignore list?
That'll make things much cleaner.
09-16-2014, 09:58 PM
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Hes a good dude, even though he likes ugly cars
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09-17-2014, 12:09 AM
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yah the if i recall correctly, the front lip cost about $600 and rear is about $600 and i think the sideskirt cost even more. oh, that little lip spoiler on the truck was $600 as well i think.
I just checked the price for those accessories on Acura.com. Even though i don't remember the exact # but they were definitely more expensive than what is advertised on the website.
I just checked the price for those accessories on Acura.com. Even though i don't remember the exact # but they were definitely more expensive than what is advertised on the website.
09-17-2014, 12:46 AM
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Someone will make a fortunate from making a full add on rear lip with exhaust cutout for the TLX (Like the 3G TL Aspec)
i think it will dramatically transform the way the rear looks.
Saw someone like this on the street the other day with BBS LM replica
but it looked good nevertheless. Maybe someone can PS this on the TLX?
i think it will dramatically transform the way the rear looks.
Saw someone like this on the street the other day with BBS LM replica
but it looked good nevertheless. Maybe someone can PS this on the TLX?
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09-17-2014, 11:20 AM
Someone will make a fortunate from making a full add on rear lip with exhaust cutout for the TLX (Like the 3G TL Aspec)
i think it will dramatically transform the way the rear looks.
Saw someone like this on the street the other day with BBS LM replica but it looked good nevertheless. Maybe someone can PS this on the TLX?
i think it will dramatically transform the way the rear looks.
Saw someone like this on the street the other day with BBS LM replica
but it looked good nevertheless. Maybe someone can PS this on the TLX?
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09-17-2014, 11:44 AM
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Someone will make a fortunate from making a full add on rear lip with exhaust cutout for the TLX (Like the 3G TL Aspec)
i think it will dramatically transform the way the rear looks.
Saw someone like this on the street the other day with BBS LM replica but it looked good nevertheless. Maybe someone can PS this on the TLX?
i think it will dramatically transform the way the rear looks.
Saw someone like this on the street the other day with BBS LM replica
but it looked good nevertheless. Maybe someone can PS this on the TLX? 
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09-17-2014, 11:52 AM
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09-17-2014, 01:01 PM
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freakin noobs 
09-17-2014, 03:53 PM
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09-17-2014, 06:49 PM
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A fellow member dyno'ed his stock TLX V6 on a dynojet:
https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...v6-pcd-917797/
266whp/251wtq
Just a side note - Jeff at TOV has a dyno run of the 2013 Accord V6 Touring 6AT:
239 hp and 225 lbs-ft.
The Accord V6 6MT:
258 hp and 235 lbs-ft.
If you compare the TLX V6 to the TSX V6 then the numbers are way better:
232 hp and 207 lbs-ft.
The TSX V6 was tested before and it was good for 0-60mph in 6s and 1/4 mile in 14.6s@99mph. The TSX is rated at 280hp/254lbft,uses 5AT, and is heavier than the TLX V6.
https://acurazine.com/forums/perform...v6-pcd-917797/
266whp/251wtq
Just a side note - Jeff at TOV has a dyno run of the 2013 Accord V6 Touring 6AT:
239 hp and 225 lbs-ft.
The Accord V6 6MT:
258 hp and 235 lbs-ft.
If you compare the TLX V6 to the TSX V6 then the numbers are way better:
232 hp and 207 lbs-ft.
The TSX V6 was tested before and it was good for 0-60mph in 6s and 1/4 mile in 14.6s@99mph. The TSX is rated at 280hp/254lbft,uses 5AT, and is heavier than the TLX V6.
09-17-2014, 06:57 PM
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Funny, how i was just reading something over at the M3 forum about Dynojet.
To me, Dyno #s are never accurate when it comes to real WHP #s, especially when you compare to #s from different Dyno machines on different days.
IMO Dyno are only good for tuning and base line #s, it does not matter if it s 200 or 280whp. The you can see if there is any gains with the new mods and tuning and even that should be done at the same facility on the same dyno machine with similar temp.
Trap speed is much more accurate, someone should take their TLX V6 to the track and see the #s. If it still traps around 98-100. Then it is no different than other J series cars.
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To me, Dyno #s are never accurate when it comes to real WHP #s, especially when you compare to #s from different Dyno machines on different days.
IMO Dyno are only good for tuning and base line #s, it does not matter if it s 200 or 280whp. The you can see if there is any gains with the new mods and tuning and even that should be done at the same facility on the same dyno machine with similar temp.
Trap speed is much more accurate, someone should take their TLX V6 to the track and see the #s. If it still traps around 98-100. Then it is no different than other J series cars.
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I just wanted to chip in quickly as all these WHP discussion are very interesting and sometimes beyond my belief. Just today somebody walked into my shop saying that he got 307WHP from a Stage 1 tune on a Golf 7 GTI, so how come that i am only making 310HP at the Crank?
We are using a MAHA LPS3000 dyno that is approved in germany by many manfucturers like Audi, BMW, Mercedes and so on. In fact it is even used in Development. It is also approved in front of court in case you feel that your newly bought car is too slow and does not make the manufacturers claim. The Court will send you to somebody who has a MAHA LPS3000 dyno. Can you proof in front of court with a MAHA Sheet that your car does not make enought HP, the manufacturer has to take the car back. Happened to somebody i know with a Audi RS4 B7.
Drivetrain losses just simply cannot be calculated in percentage because it depends on various factors like, wheel size, tire size, what kind of gearbox, what kind of differential etc etc. Thats why drivetrain loss "assumptions" are not legit.
The Maha LPS3000 dyno actually measures the drivetrain loss after the run is over. It will measure it while the car is rolling out. This will be the green line in the sheet. As you can see drivetrain loss increases with Speed and Power.
A Stock BMW M5 F10 for example dynoes between 565-585 Crank HP on the MAHA which seems 100% legit, where as if you compare to a Dynojet you will hear that the M5 F10 makes between 525WHP - 560WHP. How shall this even be possible? And then you will hear that the M5 F10 is 10-20% underrated which just isnt true. A Dyno should be a rolling road and simulate driving on the Road. You want to know how much HP your car makes on the Road when you drive it and not how much power it makes while spinning a 500 Pound drum. Lets say you do a 4th gear Pull on the street how long do you need to go from 1,500rpm to lets say 7000rpm? Definitely not 5 or 8 seconds. The run on the Maha actually simulates accelarating on a real road, thats why a run takes much longer and due to that obviously the engine heats up more, turbos get hot, intake air temperature gets hot and the ECU will adjust accordingly. Thats why the Power you will see at the Crank on the MAHA, thats what you will get on the street. By no means i wanna bash Dynojets.. at the end its a tool to measure HP. But if we are talking about accuracy i personally think that the Dynojet isnt the most accurate dyno in the world.
Below i have attached 2 dynosheets of STOCK M5 F10's. One even had akrapovic Exhaust on it.
The Bone Stock one made 444 WHP and 562.3 Crank HP. Only 2.3HP difference between what BMW claims and what we dyoned. Pretty accurate i believe.
The one with Akrapovic made 453.7 WHP and 577.6 Crank HP.
Below you can see a dynosheet of a Bone Stock 2011 e92 M3 Competition with less than 5000 Miles on the clock and in pristine condition. This is actually the strongest e92 M3 i have had on the dyno as mostly they are dynoing around 385-390 crank HP
This one made 402.7 CRANK HP and 312.8WHP but we all know that the S65 Engine is actually overrated and never makes 420HP at the crank.
Now the conclusion is in your hands.
I hope that soon i have a M4 or M3 in for a stock dyno run
We are using a MAHA LPS3000 dyno that is approved in germany by many manfucturers like Audi, BMW, Mercedes and so on. In fact it is even used in Development. It is also approved in front of court in case you feel that your newly bought car is too slow and does not make the manufacturers claim. The Court will send you to somebody who has a MAHA LPS3000 dyno. Can you proof in front of court with a MAHA Sheet that your car does not make enought HP, the manufacturer has to take the car back. Happened to somebody i know with a Audi RS4 B7.
Drivetrain losses just simply cannot be calculated in percentage because it depends on various factors like, wheel size, tire size, what kind of gearbox, what kind of differential etc etc. Thats why drivetrain loss "assumptions" are not legit.
The Maha LPS3000 dyno actually measures the drivetrain loss after the run is over. It will measure it while the car is rolling out. This will be the green line in the sheet. As you can see drivetrain loss increases with Speed and Power.
A Stock BMW M5 F10 for example dynoes between 565-585 Crank HP on the MAHA which seems 100% legit, where as if you compare to a Dynojet you will hear that the M5 F10 makes between 525WHP - 560WHP. How shall this even be possible? And then you will hear that the M5 F10 is 10-20% underrated which just isnt true. A Dyno should be a rolling road and simulate driving on the Road. You want to know how much HP your car makes on the Road when you drive it and not how much power it makes while spinning a 500 Pound drum. Lets say you do a 4th gear Pull on the street how long do you need to go from 1,500rpm to lets say 7000rpm? Definitely not 5 or 8 seconds. The run on the Maha actually simulates accelarating on a real road, thats why a run takes much longer and due to that obviously the engine heats up more, turbos get hot, intake air temperature gets hot and the ECU will adjust accordingly. Thats why the Power you will see at the Crank on the MAHA, thats what you will get on the street. By no means i wanna bash Dynojets.. at the end its a tool to measure HP. But if we are talking about accuracy i personally think that the Dynojet isnt the most accurate dyno in the world.
Below i have attached 2 dynosheets of STOCK M5 F10's. One even had akrapovic Exhaust on it.
The Bone Stock one made 444 WHP and 562.3 Crank HP. Only 2.3HP difference between what BMW claims and what we dyoned. Pretty accurate i believe.
The one with Akrapovic made 453.7 WHP and 577.6 Crank HP.
Below you can see a dynosheet of a Bone Stock 2011 e92 M3 Competition with less than 5000 Miles on the clock and in pristine condition. This is actually the strongest e92 M3 i have had on the dyno as mostly they are dynoing around 385-390 crank HP
This one made 402.7 CRANK HP and 312.8WHP but we all know that the S65 Engine is actually overrated and never makes 420HP at the crank.
Now the conclusion is in your hands.
I hope that soon i have a M4 or M3 in for a stock dyno run
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09-17-2014, 08:01 PM
I feel the need...
You should talk me into a Charger Hellcat, that is some seriously sick power and a great choice for me to make a totally irrational decision for.
The reality is, I will probably cross shop a 335 Xdrive, C400 4matic - option them up to TLX SH-AWD Tech content into the $60 gizzle range, then make a sober decision.
The reality is, I will probably cross shop a 335 Xdrive, C400 4matic - option them up to TLX SH-AWD Tech content into the $60 gizzle range, then make a sober decision.
09-17-2014, 08:29 PM
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09-17-2014, 09:16 PM
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You should talk me into a Charger Hellcat, that is some seriously sick power and a great choice for me to make a totally irrational decision for.
The reality is, I will probably cross shop a 335 Xdrive, C400 4matic - option them up to TLX SH-AWD Tech content into the $60 gizzle range, then make a sober decision.
The reality is, I will probably cross shop a 335 Xdrive, C400 4matic - option them up to TLX SH-AWD Tech content into the $60 gizzle range, then make a sober decision.
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Funny, how i was just reading something over at the M3 forum about Dynojet.
To me, Dyno #s are never accurate when it comes to real WHP #s, especially when you compare to #s from different Dyno machines on different days.
IMO Dyno are only good for tuning and base line #s, it does not matter if it s 200 or 280whp. The you can see if there is any gains with the new mods and tuning and even that should be done at the same facility on the same dyno machine with similar temp.
Trap speed is much more accurate, someone should take their TLX V6 to the track and see the #s. If it still traps around 98-100. Then it is no different than other J series cars.
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To me, Dyno #s are never accurate when it comes to real WHP #s, especially when you compare to #s from different Dyno machines on different days.
IMO Dyno are only good for tuning and base line #s, it does not matter if it s 200 or 280whp. The you can see if there is any gains with the new mods and tuning and even that should be done at the same facility on the same dyno machine with similar temp.
Trap speed is much more accurate, someone should take their TLX V6 to the track and see the #s. If it still traps around 98-100. Then it is no different than other J series cars.
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OTOH, after installing the PCD, the car gained 13whp using the same dyno. It's now at 280whp with those freaking 20" rims...lol.
09-18-2014, 02:03 AM
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Somehow i seriously doubt it.
09-19-2014, 08:35 AM
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My TL is FWD and has no issues pulling those type of numbers 
With modern tech (traction control/launch control etc..) and the 9 speed auto it shouldnt be that hard to do and the excuse of FWD should be used far less (if in fact it had the power or were capable of).
With modern tech (traction control/launch control etc..) and the 9 speed auto it shouldnt be that hard to do and the excuse of FWD should be used far less (if in fact it had the power or were capable of).
09-19-2014, 09:25 AM
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It can pull those numbers but can it properly put the power to the ground?
The TLX doesn't have launch control and is auto tranny. iforyou has a point.
The way it is set up, it won't do 4s in 0-60.
Especially with the stock tires.
The TLX doesn't have launch control and is auto tranny. iforyou has a point.
The way it is set up, it won't do 4s in 0-60.
Especially with the stock tires.
09-19-2014, 09:47 AM
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And the weight.
09-19-2014, 09:50 AM
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I didnt say it did have Launch control. I guess i should have clarified that. I was saying in general with modern tech, using the "Its FWD" as an excuse should really be used far less than it is. I mean we are talking about a street car, not a top fuel drag car. What does Auto have anything to do with it? Autos are faster now days than manuals
It wont do 4s because its not making enough HP. Mid to low 5s? Should be, Based on specs it should, will it??? And Yes, the crap tastic (and that is being generous) tires will be the main reason it cant.
09-19-2014, 10:26 AM
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Mine, yes (unless of course you are stupid and just dump the clutch with it wot)
I didnt say it did have Launch control. I guess i should have clarified that. I was saying in general with modern tech, using the "Its FWD" as an excuse should really be used far less than it is. I mean we are talking about a street car, not a top fuel drag car. What does Auto have anything to do with it? Autos are faster now days than manuals It wont do 4s because its not making enough HP. Mid to low 5s? Should be, Based on specs it should, will it??? And Yes, the crap tastic (and that is being generous) tires will be the main reason it cant.
I didnt say it did have Launch control. I guess i should have clarified that. I was saying in general with modern tech, using the "Its FWD" as an excuse should really be used far less than it is. I mean we are talking about a street car, not a top fuel drag car. What does Auto have anything to do with it? Autos are faster now days than manuals
It wont do 4s because its not making enough HP. Mid to low 5s? Should be, Based on specs it should, will it??? And Yes, the crap tastic (and that is being generous) tires will be the main reason it cant.
The 9G Accord V6 has been recorded with high 5s 0-60 times, so it's possible to get there. But I think the 4s range is definitely pushing it for the FWD model - hell, I think low 5s are pushing it. It's just too heavy to put that power down effectively without the aid of electronic nannies and sticky tires. I don't even see the AWD model hitting 4s.
09-19-2014, 10:34 AM
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The 9G Accord V6 has been recorded with high 5s 0-60 times, so it's possible to get there. But I think the 4s range is definitely pushing it for the FWD model - hell, I think low 5s are pushing it. It's just too heavy to put that power down effectively without the aid of electronic nannies and sticky tires. I don't even see the AWD model hitting 4s.
09-19-2014, 10:54 AM
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The 8G 6MT coupe has been timed at hitting 60 around 5.8-5.9. The 3G TL-S was ~5.8 to 60 as well.
I read somewhere that the 9G 6AT sedan was capable of 5.9 as well, but most of the times peg it at ~6.2. Car & Driver got 5.6 to 60 out of the 9G 6MT Coupe, but not sure how repeatable those numbers are. Keep in mind that the 6MT coupe weighs less then 3400lbs.
I read somewhere that the 9G 6AT sedan was capable of 5.9 as well, but most of the times peg it at ~6.2. Car & Driver got 5.6 to 60 out of the 9G 6MT Coupe, but not sure how repeatable those numbers are. Keep in mind that the 6MT coupe weighs less then 3400lbs.
09-19-2014, 10:59 AM
The 9G Accord V6 has been recorded with high 5s 0-60 times, so it's possible to get there. But I think the 4s range is definitely pushing it for the FWD model - hell, I think low 5s are pushing it. It's just too heavy to put that power down effectively without the aid of electronic nannies and sticky tires. I don't even see the AWD model hitting 4s.
4s for the TLX isn't going to happen.
at TLX thinking it can be as fast as or beat an M5. That's RLX territory. 
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Whats up with RDX owners?
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09-19-2014, 11:29 AM
6G TLX-S
Mine, yes (unless of course you are stupid and just dump the clutch with it wot)
I didnt say it did have Launch control. I guess i should have clarified that. I was saying in general with modern tech, using the "Its FWD" as an excuse should really be used far less than it is. I mean we are talking about a street car, not a top fuel drag car. What does Auto have anything to do with it? Autos are faster now days than manuals It wont do 4s because its not making enough HP. Mid to low 5s? Should be, Based on specs it should, will it??? And Yes, the crap tastic (and that is being generous) tires will be the main reason it cant.
I didnt say it did have Launch control. I guess i should have clarified that. I was saying in general with modern tech, using the "Its FWD" as an excuse should really be used far less than it is. I mean we are talking about a street car, not a top fuel drag car. What does Auto have anything to do with it? Autos are faster now days than manuals
It wont do 4s because its not making enough HP. Mid to low 5s? Should be, Based on specs it should, will it??? And Yes, the crap tastic (and that is being generous) tires will be the main reason it cant.
09-19-2014, 12:39 PM
Senior Moderator
20 years ago people said FWD would never break 10s they have broken into the 7s and over 200mph
09-19-2014, 01:28 PM
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
The FWD 3.5l TLX has 290 crank hp, weighs anywhere from 3,585lbs to 3,620lbs, runs on 225/50-18s and does not have a limited slip differential.
That's less power, a smaller contact patch, and about 200lbs heavier then your TL. It's entirely possible for a FWD car to hit 60 in low 5s or even high 4s. But an entry level luxury car off the showroom floor, especially one with a beak, will be hard pressed to do that.
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Can we get back to arguing over ground clearance and superior side view mirror design?