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Old 08-24-2019, 09:32 PM
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If we are looking at V6TT 3.5L not sure how to feel about it... there is a reason why mostly V6TT is 3.0L ... at the same time I do not see Acura wanting to get more than 450hp out of that engine, so 3.0TT should be perfectly capable.
Fear of "type s" concept is that it will never see the light of the day as a production car. What was shown was a mock, and Acura says this concept will substantially influence how TLX looks in the months, the year coming... That alone tells me they for some stupid reason are keeping "TLX" naming, where such concept deserves better (if V6TT is planned)...

2015-2019 TLX is nothing but a over-glorified TSX with left-over parts that were planned for TL which was cut from the line up in 2014. Frankenstein car pieced out with parts they had on hand and combined with the failure of a transmission called ZF 9-speed.

If this concept or future TLX has something to do that is the following:
- V6TT is a must!
- size of the car MUST grow than what it is now - I do not need another TSX clone with "bells and whistles" that has slight re-designed body
- ZF 8-speed or in-house 10spd, whatever they decide to put in (preferably ZF 8spd)
- no crappy VCM bull$hit "technology" that only ruined the super great engine
- no auto-start/shut-off idiotic feature

Rant - over - 10-4
Old 08-24-2019, 09:48 PM
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^While it would be sweet for the next gen TLX to have the ZF 8 Speed, they were specifically made for inline engines. One could hope at least (make it two actually).
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2015-2019 TLX is nothing but a over-glorified TSX with left-over parts that were planned for TL which was cut from the line up in 2014. Frankenstein car pieced out with parts they had on hand and combined with the failure of a transmission called ZF 9-speed.

If this concept or future TLX has something to do that is the following:
- V6TT is a must!
- size of the car MUST grow than what it is now - I do not need another TSX clone with "bells and whistles" that has slight re-designed body
- ZF 8-speed or in-house 10spd, whatever they decide to put in (preferably ZF 8spd)
- no crappy VCM bull$hit "technology" that only ruined the super great engine
- no auto-start/shut-off idiotic feature

Rant - over - 10-4 [/QUOTE]
So basically you want a successor to the 4G TL?

I love my 2013 Acura TL.

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Old 08-25-2019, 11:31 AM
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Yeah, well the 4G TL wasn't exactly warmly received when it was in production...particularly given the popularity of the 3G gen. Not unlike the current Accord, the 4G TL was the only version of 3.2TL/TL/TLX that I had no interest in owning.

I sincerely hope that the 4G TL isn't an influencing factor with the 2G TLX.
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@edmua6 Not sure that's accurate. Audi S4 uses the ZF 8-speed and it's a turbo V6. That said, I think the 10-speed in-house unit is what we will see.
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^ I stand corrected. That is news to me. New generation of ZF-8 perhaps?
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Originally Posted by edmua6
^ I stand corrected. That is news to me. New generation of ZF-8 perhaps?
The Audi uses a longitudinal not horizontal engine layout so it can run the 8ZF


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^Gotcha. It's no surprise Audi is now using the 8 speed from ZF too. I have driven a 340 and I am really surprised with the transmission. It's almost as if it knows exactly what to do at any type of driving scenario. I'd trade the ZF 8 speed over Honda/Acura new 10 AT in house transmission any day.
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Originally Posted by edmua6
^Gotcha. It's no surprise Audi is now using the 8 speed from ZF too. I have driven a 340 and I am really surprised with the transmission. It's almost as if it knows exactly what to do at any type of driving scenario. I'd trade the ZF 8 speed over Honda/Acura new 10 AT in house transmission any day.
All the top tier manufacturers agree with you. Some like BMW switching over from the 7DCT to the 8ZF.
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I see complaints about the transmission on the rdx forum. Apparently Acura is aware of a jerk between 2 and 3 and is working on it. So maybe hopefully by the time the TLX come out it'll be corrected

The fix is to keep driving it and it'll break-in, but of course there's some people who's getting up there in miles and still experiencing the issue
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Originally Posted by Mak P
I see complaints about the transmission on the rdx forum. Apparently Acura is aware of a jerk between 2 and 3 and is working on it. So maybe hopefully by the time the TLX come out it'll be corrected

The fix is to keep driving it and it'll break-in, but of course there's some people who's getting up there in miles and still experiencing the issue
My wife's RDX Danny has been great, it is the crappy breaks and gauge cluster that suck badly.
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Interior Spyshots

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I was really hoping for a digital speedo and the option to move the navi functions into that area.
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Looks like the RDX interior. Hard pass if it's the same glitchy infotainment system.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Yeah, well the 4G TL wasn't exactly warmly received when it was in production...particularly given the popularity of the 3G gen. Not unlike the current Accord, the 4G TL was the only version of 3.2TL/TL/TLX that I had no interest in owning.

I sincerely hope that the 4G TL isn't an influencing factor with the 2G TLX.
After looking at the recent pics I'm getting an upgraded 4g TL vibe and that's all good with me since I came from one
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I am hoping this is the base interior and that a full LCD will be on Advanced and Type-S or I will be moving on.
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Same dated gauges? Even BMW went digital on the gauges finally. Cmon Acura WTF. Also please don't tell me they put in that Lexus Style mouse pad thing that nobody likes to navigate the navigation.
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Same dated gauges? Even BMW went digital on the gauges finally. Cmon Acura WTF. Also please don't tell me they put in that Lexus Style mouse pad thing that nobody likes to navigate the navigation.
Lol😂😂😂😂, I think that the padded area where you put your wrist.
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I am hoping this is the base interior and that a full LCD will be on Advanced and Type-S or I will be moving on.
Tbh I would rather them go with the RDX gauges, than coming out with a digital display and it be a cluster ****.
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I don't mind a digital screen, but I hate it when the entire gauge cluster is digital.
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Seriously, do you trust Acura to deliver on a digital gauge cluster that works? They can't even do an infotainment system right; what makes you think the gauges won't be all messed up as well?
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Old 08-26-2019, 11:33 PM
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The ZF 8 Speed is still indeed one of the best automatic gearbox out there, we have it in my wife's Grand Cherokee SRT...but let me tell you that the new GM-Ford 10 Speed seems noticeably better IMHO, at least in the version used in the Camaro ZL1 I did extensively drive....astonishingly quick gear changes, GM claim it is actually faster than the Porsche PDK....
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Center screen looks identical to the one that BMW just phased out. BTW on finally went digital. BMW went to a digital dash in mid 2017 with the 2018 models. They are now on version two of the digital dash.
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2021 Acura TLX Spy Photos Provide Best Look Yet At The Interior

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I don't mind there being Analog gauges. I think this is going to be much more refined compared to the TLX infotainment system. I'm sure their plan was to release it on the RDX first so they can sort out all the bugs and then finally release the fixes with the new 2021 TLX. I really like the new look of their interior! This is going to be an amazing car.

Also.. I wanted to bring up the taillights. Did you all notice that they are dashes in the lights? Is that because of the camera? I hope they don't ruin the look of the taillights because of the reverse lights being white. I'm expecting LED reverse lights.
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I really hope they also keep a "red" turn signal in the back instead of using "yellow" turn signals.
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Also really disappointed for the non digital gauges, precision cockpit had some cool tech and graphics for driver. Unless they're saving it for top of the lines versions compared to the one in pic. Makes car look a little dated compared to newer non-luxury models. Better do it right now, instead of waiting another 3 years for refresh.

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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
Also really disappointed for the non digital gauges, precision concept had some cool tech and graphics for driver. Unless they're saving it for top of the lines versions compared to the one in pic. Makes car look a little dated compared to newer non-luxury models. Better do it right now, instead of waiting another 3 years for refresh.
FWIW it's a massive jump over the current base TLX gauges (the low-res black-and-white display), which look like they belong in a 2012 Hyundai Sonata.
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I don't mind a digital screen, but I hate it when the entire gauge cluster is digital.
It can be quite nice if done right.
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I mean, I'm biased. But. still.
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Tbh I would rather them go with the RDX gauges, than coming out with a digital display and it be a cluster ****.
I think we can expect to pretty much see the same interior as the RDX if history is any indicator.
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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
Also really disappointed for the non digital gauges, precision cockpit had some cool tech and graphics for driver. Unless they're saving it for top of the lines versions compared to the one in pic. Makes car look a little dated compared to newer non-luxury models. Better do it right now, instead of waiting another 3 years for refresh.
I think we're forgetting about the leaks that were provided from the original RDX infotainment system leak. The image below was also leaked. I think they will be giving us a digital screen there.


(Source:https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021...leaked-photos/)
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
It can be quite nice if done right.
I agree I like the fully digital LCD clusters.
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Originally Posted by Jiten Patel
I think we're forgetting about the leaks that were provided from the original RDX infotainment system leak. The image below was also leaked. I think they will be giving us a digital screen there.


(Source:https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021...leaked-photos/)
Yup, could just be that Acura shoved the entire RDX dash into the mule for testing purposes only. For all we know, Acura is still working on tweaking the final product which will have the full digital gauges, at least on the top of the line trims. Lesser trim might get the partial digital gauge currently in use in the RDX.
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Interior looks solid so far. I like the current TLX's interior, and the new RDX's as well, so I think this one will be just fine.
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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
Also really disappointed for the non digital gauges, precision cockpit had some cool tech and graphics for driver. Unless they're saving it for top of the lines versions compared to the one in pic. Makes car look a little dated compared to newer non-luxury models. Better do it right now, instead of waiting another 3 years for refresh.
Let me ask you a question. Do all MB, Volvo, Lexus and Audi vehicles (all trims) come with a digital dash? I am noticing you get disappointed every time you see an Acura news. There is nothing to be disappointed. The digital dash will be available to higher trims like all other brands.

Did you get disappointed to see the current TLX sold more cars than the Audi A4 at the moment? 14,933 vs 14,733. I know the number is insignificant and not worth mentioning, but you do care for little things so I want to know
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Originally Posted by Jiten Patel
I think we're forgetting about the leaks that were provided from the original RDX infotainment system leak. The image below was also leaked. I think they will be giving us a digital screen there.


(Source:https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021...leaked-photos/)

Thank you for reminding some people here. Spreading negativity is very common at Acurazine lol!
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No reason no too. The screens are cheaper to manufacture then analog gauges. Would be a good move.
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Let me ask you a question. Do all MB, Volvo, Lexus and Audi vehicles (all trims) come with a digital dash? I am noticing you get disappointed every time you see an Acura news. There is nothing to be disappointed. The digital dash will be available to higher trims like all other brands.

Did you get disappointed to see the current TLX sold more cars than the Audi A4 at the moment? 14,933 vs 14,733. I know the number is insignificant and not worth mentioning, but you do care for little things so I want to know
Unless you're paying my next car, my opinion is simply mine to share. I'm looking for changes that interest me to sign the check. So far, nothing concrete from Acura either so no idea why you're that excited. Only thing for sure is maybe a sexy outside and turbo V6 for probably well over 45k US. We shall see about the affordable smart luxury once Monroney sticker shows up, just look at RLX sales.
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Seriously, do you trust Acura to deliver on a digital gauge cluster that works? They can't even do an infotainment system right; what makes you think the gauges won't be all messed up as well?
The Civic has had a digital dash display for years now. Then again it also had carplay/android auto before Acura got it in the TLX. Seems like it should be the other way around where new tech features filter down to the lower models rather than the reverse. I thought the "precision concept" car Acura was showing a year or two ago had at least a mocked up digital dash (not sure if it was actually functional at that time).
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