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I have this feeling that those scorned by their experiences with the current TLX won’t be enticed by the next generation even if it comes with the goods.
Must say I really like the look.
Positive:
285-series summer tire leads me to believe the performance is going to be at least on par with the usual suspects (S4/C43/M340i). I'm going to jump the gun and say based on testing vs the S4 (349 hp) and C43 (385 hp) I think we're going to see 375 horsepower.
This concept screams premium in the segment.
On the downside:
This being a concept with no door handles it appears to be a little further from production than what the RDX was when it was unveiled (Went back and looked, in fairness, that was labeled prototype). We may not be getting any level of the car (2.0T) that early in 2020. More a personal issue with being over my IS350 F-Sport.
In the middle:
I have a feeling we're going to see more than a modest price bump but I think it will be worth it for what is on offer.
I have this feeling that those scorned by their experiences with the current TLX won’t be enticed by the next generation even if it comes with the goods.
Bingo! If it's a coupe or doesn't have a hatchback style opening (aka Japanese Stinger), it's already dead to me lol
Last edited by pyrodan007; 08-13-2019 at 04:17 PM.
Dear Acura: shut up and take my money. That looks really, really good. I love the looks of my TLX, but the concept goes one better.
But first...a) production TLX has to look close to the prototype, I am hoping they don't "dumb" it down like they did the 1G TLX. b) I want to see drivetrain and specs, which likely won't come for a while.
Yes, please don't dumb it down too much. I already can see them doing the standard changes they've done in the past from Concept form, bigger mirrors, add regular door handles, less aggressive front/rear, smaller rims/tires, for sure the CF won't make it through. Prove me wrong Acura!!
i'm calling 360 hp, 340 ft lbs. sh-awd. 56k price. all reasonable to compete with an s4 and c43 amg!!
come 2021 who wants to buy my 1 owner 2008 type s 6mt lolol!!
Pricing is going to be key here, though, and if it starts pushing $60K people will just look elsewhere; it is imperative that Acura sticks with the value and bang for the buck mindset.
Even the Infiniti Q50 red sport is putting down 400hp, it’s either 400hp or go home for Acura. And they are capable of doing it.
Exactly. By the time this car rolls out of the plant in 2021, there's a decent chance the M340i which currently pumps out 382hp and the C43 AMG at 385hp will both see an update that has them both north of 400hp.
My 19 ASPEC feels boring now. They have regained my interest. I suspect it is mostly production ready, maybe real side mirrors, some door handles and they could roll that baby out now.
Must say I really like the look.
Positive:
285-series summer tire leads me to believe the performance is going to be at least on par with the usual suspects (S4/C43/M340i). I'm going to jump the gun and say based on testing vs the S4 (349 hp) and C43 (385 hp) I think we're going to see 375 horsepower.
This concept screams premium in the segment.
On the downside:
This being a concept with no door handles it appears to be a little further from production than what the RDX was when it was unveiled (Went back and looked, in fairness, that was labeled prototype). We may not be getting any level of the car (2.0T) that early in 2020. More a personal issue with being over my IS350 F-Sport.
In the middle:
I have a feeling we're going to see more than a modest price bump but I think it will be worth it for what is on offer.
285 is total overkill for 400hp. It is 700hp territory.
I would be happy with a production car on 19 inch rims and 245-255 rubber, around 380hp.
I have owned many, MANY Honda cars, motorcycles, and Acuras (and even a Honda lawnmower or two) going back nearly 50 years. But to paraphrase, I didn't leave them...they left me.
So today I see on Motor Trend and Car & Driver online this new "concept" with great styling and the promise of more horsepower. It could not come at a better time. I've driven some nice cars the past several years. My current car is a 2017 BMW 540 M-Sport. Last three before that were two A7 Audis and a 550 BMW. But I retired seven months ago and would sure like to find a car that makes me happy without it being a $70-$75,000 car again.
My words to Acura are this - the car you are showing and the promise of a significant horsepower bump on the "S" version better not be watered down from what is being shown.
Pricing is going to be key here, though, and if it starts pushing $60K people will just look elsewhere; it is imperative that Acura sticks with the value and bang for the buck mindset.
This. I’m really looking at dailying a C8. If a C8 and a TLX Type S are anywhere near the same price territory, guess which I’m going with? You damn skippy I’ll have two mid-engines cars in my driveway!
i don’t think the Type S will cost that much, though. It’s got the looks...Acura better give it the performance, and at a reasonable price. Again, see C8, GM absolutely crushed it.
Wait, did I hear and see “forged carbon fiber” on that KBB video? *head explodes from shock of hearing Acura and “forged carbon fiber” in the same video*
This. I’m really looking at dailying a C8. If a C8 and a TLX Type S are anywhere near the same price territory, guess which I’m going with? You damn skippy I’ll have two mid-engined cars in my driveway!
i don’t think the Type S will cost that much, though. It’s got the looks...Acura better give it the performance, and at a reasonable price. Again, see C8, GM absolutely crushed it.
The Acura cause it's still a chevy and going to have chevy bullshit with it. I can tell you a 60k 2nd Gen TLX will have more features than a C8. 60k for TLX will be fully loaded. The base C8 is 60k. Get it fully loaded and it's going to be more. I bet the TLX will still have more features. The C8 will win on performance of course . Also one is a sedan vs a coupe
This Type S concept is absolutely gorgeous! I love every single angle of it! If the production car can come out matching 80% or more of the concept, and if Acura delivers in the performance category, this Type S is a total grand slam! I would buy one in a New York minute!
Yes, I’m that weirdo who’s looking at both a C8 and a Type S TLX. I’m just hoping Acura gives us some “go” along with that “show”, and at a reasonable price compared to the Germans. If they do, I’m pretty much in.
Very exciting! Looks beautiful Give me the same in an RDX too and it might be right in time to trade in the Giulia and Stelvio--they'd need to drive splendidly as I'm absolutely smitten with the performance and handling of the AR's at the moment
Edit: No 'TLX' badging -- new name?
Last edited by hdcolumbus; 08-13-2019 at 10:20 PM.
I have owned many, MANY Honda cars, motorcycles, and Acuras (and even a Honda lawnmower or two) going back nearly 50 years. But to paraphrase, I didn't leave them...they left me.
So today I see on Motor Trend and Car & Driver online this new "concept" with great styling and the promise of more horsepower. It could not come at a better time. I've driven some nice cars the past several years. My current car is a 2017 BMW 540 M-Sport. Last three before that were two A7 Audis and a 550 BMW. But I retired seven months ago and would sure like to find a car that makes me happy without it being a $70-$75,000 car again.
My words to Acura are this - the car you are showing and the promise of a significant horsepower bump on the "S" version better not be watered down from what is being shown.
Very exciting! Looks beautiful Give me the same in an RDX too and it might be right in time to trade in the Giulia and Stelvio--they'd need to drive splendidly as I'm absolutely smitten with the performance and handling of the AR's at the moment
Edit: No 'TLX' badging -- new name?
In the press release Acura said, the 2nd gen TLX would be built of the type-s concept. So we probably see the 2nd gen TLX at the la auto show or the NAIAS like the RDX in 2018.
Hmm. After moving on from my 4G TL to a B8.5 S4 and now a B9 S4, this surely has my interest...assuming that it has a proper power plant of course. Very sleek design!
This concept looks beautiful for sure, particularly impressive is the fact that they reached such proportion with a East-West engine configuration (according to C&D)...if I have to nitpick, some lack of originality in few details, for example there is a bit too much of Audi A7 on the side view.
Tech specs better be confirmed by Acura....a sub 400 HP car would put it in the same league of a Kia Stinger and Kia got there already almost 2 years ago.....Acura has to realize that we live in a different world compared to the era when "close to the luxury top dogs for less money" was a viable strategy.
Acura management should actually propose a well over 400 HP Hybrid SH-AWD model as top trim especially for halo purposes.
Bingo! If it's a coupe or doesn't have a hatchback style opening (aka Japanese Stinger), it's already dead to me lol
Honestly, only the A/S/RS5 look good as fastbacks. All the other ones on the market look pukeworthy, especially the the Stinger (and the Accord X for that matter). I would love for them to introduce a CLX though.
I have this feeling that those scorned by their experiences with the current TLX won’t be enticed by the next generation even if it comes with the goods.
Yes! If this thing even has a HINT of a 9ZF coming in any of its trims it'll be dead on arrival. I'm pretty sure however the 9ZF won't be able to handle the power the Type S will put down. So I'm thinking a dual clutch trans will need to be on it.
The volume seller model will probably be 2.0T with Honda's 10 speed AT
Honestly, only the A/S/RS5 look good as fastbacks. All the other ones on the market look pukeworthy, especially the the Stinger (and the Accord X for that matter). I would love for them to introduce a CLX though.
What about BMW 4 series Gran Coupes? They dont even look like hatchbacks, they look like regular sedans.
A few things to discuss about the Type-s prior to the unveiling just 24 hours away. 1st and foremost, Acura is notorious for butchering final production vehicles vs the concept vehicle. 2nd, Hp and Tq numbers aren't something to be heavily focused on since other factors play a huge role in performance figures. Doesn't need 400 hp to achieve 4.5 second 0-60 runs. 3rd, Acura is not known for having performance versions of current models. Meaning like most other brands, you have a bread and butter version of a vehicle and then you have a sport variant. This will be something entirely new for them since this will be the 1st production type-s to feature an all new F/I V6 Engine. Considering a few things here, this vehicle being tested in Germany against the competition, I would only assume that the Sh-awd system will be reconfigured for more of a rwd setup vs awd.
This is very common for many manufactures that have a performance awd vehicle. Another thing, the actual production model more than likely WON'T have carbon fiber and the same wheels. If that was truly the case, this vehicle will be north of 60K. Another thing to consider is that Acura still as an issue with their transmissions. Depending on what transmission this will have, I wouldn't be too quick to praise it. Will there be an electric motor on this? No idea but it's possible. From my understanding it's a single turbo and more than likely a twin scroll setup. I can see Acura mounting the turbo between the heads as it would save the most amount of space. Ball park numbers will be under 400 hp and again it's only a guess considering the actual drive-terrain setup isn't disclosed. I can see it doing 0-60 in 4.4-4.5 seconds. That would make it as fast as the majority of the industry doing V6 or straight 6 F/I setups.
Keep in mind, i've seen people say "Hope it's faster than a supra" the new supra has the B58 BMW engine. It is heavily underrated and makes more power to the wheels than what BMW claims it makes to the crank. As true to BMW, companies already make performance tunes and parts for the B series engines. Acura's saving grace for performance will be Hondata is they are able to tune the ECU but again this is all just a guessing game til the vehicle makes it to final production. For those that know Acura very well will understand this. They are notorious for leaving giving buyers and or Acura Fans high hopes just to disappoint. Final production will most likely have different bumpers, mirrors, door handles, wheels and possible trim work.
you guys have read about the mdx and tlx production graphics leak through the rdx infotainment system right? it's not too far off from the concept. it's toned down sure, but not in a bad way
08-13-2019, 03:59 PM
Give me the same in an RDX too and it might be right in time to trade in the Giulia and Stelvio--they'd need to drive splendidly as I'm absolutely smitten with the performance and handling of the AR's at the moment 
