fiatlux

My money is on the Chicago Auto Show, purely because Chicago is closer to Ohio.

BGR

The insider at VTEC confirmed it would be early next year and not at LA for the TLX debut. Jeff, the administrator of VTEC also said nothing "new" from Acura at LA. The timeslot suggests something substantial. Maybe the NSX Type- R? My guess is Chicago the first week of February for the TLX.

BGR

This is what Acura has 40 min at the LA auto show for...smh.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.car...e-the-nsx/amp/

Tony Pac

So disappointed and just smh!

Acura, sorry but this is BS!

Tony Pac

Acura is milking MDX. Cmon. 2013 to 2020. Thank you Acura

fiatlux

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH what a joke

sockr1

iTrader: (5)

PATHETIC. not surprising from acura

Tony Pac

I can forgive Acura for only one reason: if they are testing, testing and testing to release a flawless product.

neuronbob

Oh, come on! Really? A PMC MDX?

I am disappointed. Oh well...nothing to do but wait...

ZipSpeed

So basically 40 minutes of who gives a f***. Too bad Acura didn't end 2019 with a bang.

mapleloaf

The new TLX Type S will come soon enough, when it's ready. ANTICIPATION is keeping me late, keepin me watin.....

Billy Gibbons

The Honda Accord v6 has a 5.5 0-60 with proper ktuner and twin turbo would potentially give the nsx a run for its money

Midnight Mystery

As much as I love the Accord, I don't think so... Ypu are talking about a 1G NSX right? If it's the 4AT NSX, then maybe.

The 6-6 Accord would pretty much smoke anything else that isn't a super car or high performance sports car...

jjsC5

I have owned seven Corvettes and I have been on the Corvette forum almost every day for seventeen years now. Anticipation for the mid engine Corvette was one thing. Plus they were replacing what was already a great Corvette. The upcoming TLX is not that. They need to move faster after two full generations of ho hum cars.

I mean no disrespect for the folks who own a current TLX, and I owned the last generation myself (my wife's car, but I liked it too). They are fine cars, but they were not what this thread is about. This thread is about the return of a fun Acura that is not a six figure NSX. Anticipation turns to "fool me once...." after a while.

mrgold35

What worries me about the new TLX (and Type-S version) is Acura has some self imposed HP rule of lower models should have less power than upper models:

ILX 2.4L 201hp
TLX 2.4L 206hp

TLX 3.5L 290hp
RLX 3.5L 310hp

RDX 279hp (13-18 model year)
RDX 272hp (+19)
MDX 290 hp

RLX Hybrid 377hp
MDX Hybrid 321hp

Acura will need to break this rule OR really up the HP across the entire line-up. I can see the next gen Acura TLX not exceeding the current RLX 310 hp by much in base/tech/adv trim. The same thing for the TLX Type-S not exceeding the RLX hybrid 377hp numbers. Please let me be wrong about this Acura!

Jiten Patel

Okay so we also have to remember that the 4 Cylinder in the new RDX is the same one from the Civic Type R which is a smaller car. With that config it brings out 306 HP. The new TLX should be capable of producing around the 300 HP mark just with that 4 Cylinder. And I'm pretty sure they won't be keeping just a 4 Cylinder across all it's models. So we should be expecting much more when putting the 6 Cylinder into the picture. And then finally the Type S which will be fined tuned! That should be expected near the 400 HP range! Don't forget to compare with the recent cars Acura has released to really get a good picture of the direction they are going.

someguy11

I'm a casual observer in this Type S saga without any interest in the vehicle or excitement over its release. As a neutral, objective observer, there are some eerie similarities and differences between the 1G and 2G.

-This is an Acura fan site. There are only like six to ten active members here actually excited about the 2G and Type S. If this were the launch of a new, exciting car, this forum would be filled with current owners and new users discussing these vehicles. The new Corvette example by jjsC5 above is a perfect contrast. The gen pop doesn't seem to care.

-I just spent some time on Acura's press release page.
-Read the descriptions of the TLX prototype in 2014, then read the descriptions of the Type S prototype in 2019. It's almost the same vague, amorphous, fancy language they used in 2014, which we all know how well it lived up to its hype.
https://www.acura.com/news-and-press...rticle=7545-en
https://www.acura.com/news-and-press...ticle=11177-en

-The 1G TLX prototype was unveiled in Jan 2014 at North America Auto Show, then made an appearance in Feb 2014 at Chicago Auto Show, then TLX was unveiled in Apr 2014 at NY Auto Show, then launches in Aug 2014.
-The 2G TLX (based on Type S prototype) was unveiled in Aug 2019 at Monterey. I bet this prototype will be paraded around for a couple to a few more months while development of the 2G continues.

For anyone dying for this vehicle, the best case is that you would see the 2G TLX as a 2021 model year released next summer. I think it would have been a 2020 model, but probably delayed by development and testing.

It would probably be a good marketing strategy to release the 2G TLX without a Type S. Sell a bunch of shiny new models first... then when the luster wears off, release the Type S to drum up more interest. So I think realistically you guys are a minimum of 18 months before you see a Type S.

BEAR-AvHistory

Which is exactly what they did with the TL3G. The Type S was a last few years of the cycle, take a look at us again, sales enhancement model,

BEAR-AvHistory

The 306BHP Civic suggests that the bottom of the line can have the 4th most powerful car they make.

jhb31

Acura has said there will be two Type S models released over the next two years. The TLX should be first around end of 2019.

ESHBG

Much has changed in the world since the TL and Acura has dropped a few rungs because things have become extremely competitive, they won't have the luxury of playing any games and I doubt that they will be that foolish.

sockr1

iTrader: (5)

My guess is tlx spring 2020 and the type s end of calendar year 2020

someguy11

You would think so. I hoped a post like this was true back when I was an Acura fanboy. But the 2G and Type S development and historical 3G timelines simply don't add up. This is the same strategy Acura currently uses for the Aspec. Release a new generation, whatever sedan or SUV, ride it for a couple years, then introduce a shiny new Aspec appearance trim (which honestly look amazing to me). Drum up a whole new wave of buyers without spending a nickle before a redesign.

Heck, they are about to do exactly what you suggest they would be too foolish to do with the MDX PMC when they parade it out at the LA Auto Show... which by the way... OMG LOL what a disappointment for everyone waiting for some good Acura news!

If anyone thinks the TLX PMC is selling like hotcakes, you can come get yours at Acura of Brookfield in Wisconsin right now. This one has been available since it arrived there at least four months ago.
https://www.acurabrookfield.com/auto...d-wi/39177162/
No one is interested in these marketing schemes anymore. Guys like us want a great car and the competition from BMW, MB, Audi, Lexus, Cadillac and Volvo is fierce.

edmua6

^I definitely agree with you. Acura tends to tease people and eventually end up releasing the product way too late in the game. Just look at the 2G NSX.

Speed_Racer

I wouldn't say the PMC TLX is selling like hot cakes, but I'm sure they're selling. Only 17 on Autotrader right now. Not saying that's any indication, but there were a ton more on there when they first came out. MDX might be different. 330 out of 50,000 they sell shouldn't be a tall order. Really disappointed that they aren't announcing anything new, but can't be really surprised with Acura.

MIKEYDRED

That's because Acura is so tight lip on the Type S. Information one are waiting before making my next move it is between that and the S5 sportback for me. Whenever teaser images are released there is more traffic on the internet. The concept alone appeared on almost every car site there is out there. The Corvette have it's own faithful following for sure that doesn't mean there are not people waiting for something more powerful and affordable from Acura. Cant blame us when you have the first premiere car showing the year and all we get is PMC MDX to show 🤯

BGR

They're definitely not selling because they want MSRP. There are more than what you see on cars.com

My dealer still has #32 from July. A lot of salesmen post them on facebook TLX groups as well trying to sell.

BEAR-AvHistory

A $50,000 Acura TLX in the face of the Euro,Japanese & Korean competition is a very tough sell.

Speed_Racer

Well, like I said. I think they're selling, doubt it's at MSRP, but I highly doubt there are 300+ of these sitting on lots. To say they are definitely not selling is not accurate. I've seen a couple on the roads already. Anyway, they need to just bring out the 2021's already. Tired of all this hype. . .

CheeseyPoofs McNut

They're rolling out the MDX PMC at the LA auto show today:

https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases...utomobility-la

No word about the new TLX in the news so it looks like we'll have to wait a bit more.

BGR

Any Acura dealer will tell you that they're not selling in general and it's at MSRP or within $1K above or below.. They haven't even made 200 yet and they're only making just over 300 so yeah people aren't buying $50K TLXs when you can get an loaded V6 Aspec for $35K right now with aggressive discounts. They've also decreased the number of MDX PMC to 300 for the US.

BGR

Lol so true! There was a guy from my local dealer trying to somehow tune the pmc they had to make it 'more attractive' to sell. Trying to figure out if Acura has svrry successfully sold s $50K sedan at least from an actual pur6proce perspective.

someguy11

Yikes. Apparently their marketing department and the engineering department are on opposite sides of Acura headquarters... or not even in the same building. I'm still not sure how you can even call the TLX a performance (especially the I4, but also the V6) or a luxury (in light of what the Euros currently offer) sedan, let alone both.

BEAR-AvHistory

Type S waiting: 12 years & counting.

fiatlux

At least they didn't call it a sport coupe.

fiatlux

It's sad that Acura has a 40 minute spot and the only thing they've got in store is another stupid PMC model, whereas Toyota was able to take something as boring and pedestrian as a RAV4 and get even enthusiasts excited:

https://jalopnik.com/the-2021-toyota...-hp-1839953918

ZipSpeed

Hah! That RAV4 is going to outperform that 2.0T in the RDX. Probably cheaper, definitely better fuel economy and more reliable too. And not a bad looking vehicle. One of their better looking vehicles in the lineup. Seriously, other than those big gaping grills, I like the performance direction Toyota is going. Kind of crazy that at one time, 300 hp power was reserved for the premium and luxury brands. No wonder BMW et al. is pushing that power output on their 2.0T with every gen.

BGR

Forty minutes at the LA Auto Show well spent. 🤦🏾‍♂️

neuronbob

Meh to a PMC MDX. What a waste of enthusiasts’ time.

Waiting patiently for the TLX Type S....

PaSt

OMG!!! DID ANYONE SEE THIS?!?!?
410HP AWD AND BEST OF ALL 6-SPEED MANUAL!?!?!
WTF FTW!?!?!

Please let this be real!!!!!!!!
it's 1am CST when I posted this about to sleep and then boom!
OMFG I can't sleep in hopes this comes to a reality!!!!