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My theory is Acura will be discontinuing the ILX, TLX and RLX and having one sedan called the ITRLX (or IRTLX if they want the model references to be alphabetically).
But that does look more like an ILX and when you pause the video at the side profile it does seem to be a car on the smaller side. It's Acura so who knows what they will be pulling but I am excited to see what we learn on the 15th.
Production model was pretty much same as concept......concept had different rims and side mirrors......the rest was pretty dead on.
Except the front and rear bumpers and side skirts were different, those with the rims and mirrors made it appear more sporty than the final product. Par for the course, but generally that's how Honda/Acura does it. Concept will always look better than the production model.
I would not worry about the BHP number as it does not mean very much as they are all BS. The number if the number is important too you in comparing the S to the usual suspects is about 4.2 0-60 & mid 12 second 1/4 mile with speed in the low teens when the magazines test it.
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I would not worry about the BHP number as it does not mean very much as they are all BS. The number if the number is important too you in comparing the S to the usual suspects is about 4.2 0-60 & mid 12 second 1/4 mile with speed in the low teens when the magazines test it.
I also don't worry about the HP in general. The current TLX feels way less than the 286HP of the 3rd generation Type S. My over under on HP at this point is around 335 which would be fine if the transmission is right. I knew on the first drive of the current TLX is was a slower feeling car in every way.
Originally Posted by GhostTL09
I wonder if this would make me consider trading my 08 Type-S, but for me the interior has to an entire overhaul. The time has come for Acura to take it to the next level.
Wait for the reviews. I made the mistake of trading mine in due to the high value they gave me only to regret it just about every day. I sometimes wish they would do a new Type S with retro styling back to the 3rd generation. Kinda like ford did with the mustang. Modernize it some but still retain and refine the styling. I know that will not happen though.
Hoping to be wowed, but expecting to be let down as per the norm.
Given how the Ford GT that came out of left field completely stole the thunder from the NSX launch, I'm half expecting to hear about a bonkers Fusion SHO with the 460HP Coyote engine from the Mustang.
I also don't worry about the HP in general. The current TLX feels way less than the 286HP of the 3rd generation Type S. My over under on HP at this point is around 335 which would be fine if the transmission is right. I knew on the first drive of the current TLX is was a slower feeling car in every way.
Wait for the reviews. I made the mistake of trading mine in due to the high value they gave me only to regret it just about every day. I sometimes wish they would do a new Type S with retro styling back to the 3rd generation. Kinda like ford did with the mustang. Modernize it some but still retain and refine the styling. I know that will not happen though.
Did you feel that way about the 4G TL? I driven the 2019 TLX Sh-AWD and it felt much slower than my 4G TL but it could also be the fact that the TLX has VCM while the 4G TL doesn't. I also felt this lack of power in the 9th Gen Accord V6.
Did you feel that way about the 4G TL? I driven the 2019 TLX Sh-AWD and it felt much slower than my 4G TL but it could also be the fact that the TLX has VCM while the 4G TL doesn't. I also felt this lack of power in the last 9th Gen Accord V6.
I've only driven the base 4G TL as well as the 07-08 TL-S 5AT a few times and in terms of FWD versions, there's not a particularly big departure in acceleration when it comes to the SOTP feel (largely from 0-60).
However, be it in my old 16 3.5 PAWS or my current 19 version I've had few problems taking down the former two especially when speeds hit triple digits as the TLX 3.5 pulls a bit harder Sport (non-Sport+) mode. It is possible you're experiencing the impact of the VCM configuration in the TLX 3.5/AV6 6AT. Taking a spin in a 9G AV6 6MT could confirm this suspicion.
I've only driven the base 4G TL as well as the 07-08 TL-S 5AT a few times and in terms of FWD versions, there's not a particularly big departure in acceleration when it comes to the SOTP feel (largely from 0-60).
However, be it in my old 16 3.5 PAWS or my current 19 version I've had few problems taking down the former two especially when speeds hit triple digits as the TLX 3.5 pulls a bit harder Sport (non-Sport+) mode. It is possible you're experiencing the impact of the VCM configuration in the TLX 3.5/AV6 6AT. Taking a spin in a 9G AV6 6MT could confirm this suspicion.
Sounds about right. Not a fan of VCM. I can only imagine how fast a manual AV6 would feel. I'm pretty sure the 4G TL and 9G AV6 share the same exact drivetrain. So basically sport mode turns VCM off?
My lease is done in August 2020. Just in time to grab me a Type-S. I am bit a wary of getting a first year model, but thanks to the RDX beta testers, hopefully all the infotainment issues will be ironed out by then. Engine will be all new, so I guess I'll be beta testing that. The 10AT (assuming the Type-S will be using this tranny) looks to be relatively free of any major issues, thankfully.
Acura Type S Concept To Debut In Monterey – Brand’s Precision Crafted Performance Takes Shape
- 2019-08-13
MONTEREY, CALIF.
Concept sets the stage for the return of Type S performance variants and will heavily influence the character of the upcoming, second-generation TLX Type S
Design team set out to shape a striking expression of Acura performance with a powerful stance and expressive silhouette
Acura to debut two Type S performance variants in the next two years
Acura returns to Monterey Car Week, one of the world's top gatherings of automotive and motorsports enthusiasts, to debut the Type S Concept. Following its world premiere at a private Acura reception Thursday, August 15, the Acura Type S Concept will publicly debut on Friday, August 16 at The Quail, a Motorsports Gathering. It will then be showcased at the historic Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance Concept Lawn on Sunday, August 18.
Representing a fundamental step toward fulfilling Acura's return to Precision Crafted Performance, which started with the debut of the second-generation NSX, the Type S Concept sets the stage for re-introducing Type S performance variants to the Acura line-up after a decade hiatus, and will heavily influence the character of the upcoming, second-generation TLX Type S.
The Acura design team set out to express the essence of Precision Crafted Performance through stance and proportion, crafting a silhouette that is powerful and expressive, yet clean and cohesive. Building on the foundational beauty and style of the Acura Precision Concept, the Type S Concept's powerful form is characterized by a wide track and low stance, with an expansive hood that stretches forward from the A-pillars.
"The return of Type S is instrumental in our mission to return Acura to its performance roots," said Jon Ikeda, Vice President and Acura Brand Officer. "From bringing back the NSX to winning at the highest level of North American sports car racing and ushering-in a new generation starting with the RDX, we are revitalizing Acura on the foundation of our original and authentic brand values, piece by piece."
Performance at the Core
"We've been dreaming about a new performance-focused Acura concept car since the Precision Concept debuted," said Dave Marek, Acura's Executive Creative Director. "The Type S Concept speaks unambiguously to performance and to the essence of Acura design."
The Type S Concept showcases new elements of Acura design including next-generation, four-lamp Jewel Eye® LED headlights, an open-surface Diamond Pentagon grille, and "Chicane" daytime running lights and taillights, both drawing inspiration from the Acura ARX-05 Daytona Prototype race car.
Refined Style Meets Raw Emotion
Building off its powerful stance, the Type S Concept's front fascia reflects both form and function. Large center and side intakes are capable of supplying required airflow to a high-performance engine and brake package, with fascia detailing evolved from the NSX and Acura Precision Concept. The headlights are underscored, literally, by translucent white "Chicane" LEDs that serve double duty as running lights and turn signals.
The front fascia transitions to a side profile that communicates both power and elegance. Sheer surfaces and continually shifting angles are balanced by sharp, intersecting lines that create the impression that every surface is changing shape as it flows front to rear. Sheer side surfaces gradually open-up to muscular rear wheel arches, emphasizing the concept's wide track.
A sharp and distinctive tail features an upswept decklid with a sharply creased centerline (drawn from the hood) and integrated forged carbon spoiler. "Chicane" LED taillights, a large rear diffuser and quad chrome exhaust outlets complete the look.
In addition to the rear decklid spoiler, forged carbon – created by bonding layers of carbon on top of one another to exceed the strength of traditional interwoven carbon – is applied to the front and rear splitters, side sills, rear decklid spoiler and multi-spoke 21-inch wheels.
A "square" 285-series summer tire setup ensures high levels of grip in the most dynamic of driving situations. All four corners feature drilled Brembo™ high-performance brakes with four-piston calipers, providing ample stopping power and an aggressive appearance.
The Concept's bespoke "Double Apex Blue Pearl" paint reflects a liquid and electric hue that pays homage to blue Type S heritage models, including the acclaimed 2007-2008 TL Type S. "Double Apex Blue Pearl" employs Nano pigments and a color-infused clear coat that impart a sense of fluidity and motion, and enhance the paint's luster and brilliance.
The Acura Type S Concept was conceived by the Acura Design Studio in California, led by executive creative director, Dave Marek, and chief designer, Ben Davidson and will be showcased throughout Monterey Car Week. After its private debut at an Acura hosted event Aug. 15, it will make its public debut at The Quail, a Motorsports Gathering on Aug. 16, with a press conference scheduled for 9:30 a.m. The Type S Concept will also be on display at the historic Concept Lawn at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance on Aug. 18.
Acura Type S Heritage
A fundamental step in fulfilling the promise of Precision Crafted Performance, Acura will debut two Type S performance variants in the next two years, starting with the second-generation TLX Type S. Type S models will deliver a high performance driving experience with quicker acceleration, nimbler handling and stronger braking performance than conventional Acura models. From 2001 through 2008, four Type S models set the standard for Acura performance in North America:
2001-2003 Acura 3.2CL Type S: The Type S performance line debuted with the 2001 Acura 3.2CL Type S. It featured a 3.2-liter V6 engine with 260 horsepower (upgraded from 225 hp), a 5-speed automatic with a manual shift function, quicker steering, 17-inch wheels and tires and a sport-tuned suspension. In its final model year, a 6-speed manual transmission was available.
2002-2003 Acura 3.2TL Type S: Debuting a year after the 3.2CL Type S, the 3.2TL Type S featured the same performance-tuned engine and transmission, and similar suspension, wheel and tire upgrades. Unlike the 3.2CL Type S, the 3.2TL Type S was not available with a manual transmission.
2002-2006 Acura RSX Type S: The RSX Type S joined the family in 2002, powered by a new 2.0-liter i-VTEC® 4-cylinder with 200 horsepower (upgraded from 160 hp) connected exclusively to a 6-speed manual transmission. In 2005, the RSX Type S received a power increase to 210 horsepower, along with styling changes that included an eye-catching larger rear wing.
2007-2008 Acura TL Type S: The third-generation Acura TL rejoined the Type S lineup in 2007 and was powered by a 3.5-liter V6 making 286 horsepower (upgraded from 3.2-liter V6 with 258 hp), a 6-speed manual transmission, 4-piston Brembo brakes, sport suspension, upgraded wheels and tires and distinctive quad exhaust.
Precision Crafted Performance: Reborn
Coinciding with its 30th anniversary in 2016, Acura set a new course for its future, turning its focus back to its original and authentic roots as a performance-focused luxury brand. The second-generation Acura NSX launched as the pinnacle expression of Precision Crafted Performancekicking off the brand's determined focus on a future that was first and foremost about performance.
In 2016, the foundations for a new design language were set with the debut of the Acura Precision Concept. Drawing inspiration from NSX, the Precision Concept adopted a supercar stance and sheer, alluring surfaces that pointed to a bolder more distinctive future for Acura design. The Concept also showcased key new production styling cues, including edgier lines and Acura's signature new Diamond Pentagon grille, which were quickly adopted across the entire lineup, most recently on the 2019 ILX compact sports sedan.
Acura also expanded its sporty A-Spec package to all core models, attracting younger, more enthusiast-oriented customers in the process. In early 2018, the brand announced its intention to re-establish Type S performance variants in its line-up, and the development of a new, Acura-exclusive, turbocharged V6 engine. In June of last year, Acura launched the 2019 RDX as the first in a new generation of Acura models designed from the ground up around Precision Crafted Performance. In its first year, the third-generation RDX has become the retail best-selling model in luxury's largest segment, setting multiple consecutive all-time monthly sales records.
The brand has also seen a highly successful return to sports car racing in North America. Acura teams and drivers fielding the NSX GT3 Evo and ARX-05 Daytona Prototype currently lead both Manufacturers' and Drivers' Championships in the GTD and DPi classes of the IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar Championship.
About Acura
Acura is a leading automotive luxury nameplate that delivers Precision Crafted Performance – a commitment to evocative styling, high performance and innovative engineering, all built on a foundation of quality and reliability. The Acura lineup features six distinctive models – the RLX premium luxury sedan, the TLX performance luxury sedan, the ILX sport sedan, the five-passenger RDX luxury crossover SUV, the seven-passenger Acura MDX, America's all-time best-selling three-row luxury SUV, and the next-generation, electrified NSX supercar.
Five of the six Acura models sold in North America are made in central Ohio, using domestic and globally-sourced parts, including the ILX and TLX luxury sports sedans (Marysville Auto Plant), the RDX and MDX luxury SUVs (East Liberty Auto Plant) and the Acura NSX supercar, which is built to order at the Performance Manufacturing Center in Marysville, Ohio.
Additional media information including pricing, features & specifications and high-resolution photography is available at AcuraNews.com. Consumer information is available at Acura.com. Follow Acura on social media at Acura.us/SocialChannels.
Acura is back! I was considering moving back to a crossover, but the Type-S concept has me reconsidering another sedan. Ikeda is doing a great job steering the ship design-wise. Unfortunately the QC ship seems to be lagging behind, and who knows if Ikeda can even do anything in that regard.
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