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Old 07-07-2021, 09:24 PM
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Civic Type R would be more interesting. I was thinking the AHC dragy was a little slow but it looks like it's about right on. ~13.5 1/4 mile on the TLX-S vs ~12.8 1/4 mile on the S4, checks out based on the drag, I thought the TLX-S would be closer to a flat 13 but clearly not the case. CTR looks to be around ~13.6 1/4 mile stock so TLX-S might barely squeak that one out. Civic Type R runs away from the Accord 2.0T confidently though so there is no way in hell the Accord vs TLX-S is remotely interesting as itching as people are for the controversy that kind of embarrassment would cause lol.
I'm assuming you're referencing Sam's video of the CTR vs Accord 2.0T? The Accord driver in that video needs some serious driving lessons. I'm not saying it would keep up with the CTR, but it wouldn't have lost as badly. CTR vs. Type-S would be a close race from a dig, but the CTR traps the same as the S4 ... so, from a roll, the CTR would beat the Type-S by an even larger margin than the S4, assuming the driver can competently shift.

I'd honestly be interested in seeing both of these cars (CTR and Accord) go up against the Type-S

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Old 07-07-2021, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by leomio2.0
Interestingly enough, in that AHC video with the Type-S, it did the quarter mile in 13.59s @ 102.07MPH. C&D tested the 2.0T Accord and got 14.0s (so, no big contest from a dig) but a trap speed of 101MPH. That's why I'm interested. Once you take the traction advantage out of the equation with a roll race, what are these cars all about. If these cars are neck and neck, or the TLX-S is just nosing out the Accord, I just think it's a pretty sorry performance.
That's fair, maybe I'll eat my words and the Accord will keep up with it from a roll and that would be an extremely sad laughable showing. Not being as fast as an S4 is one thing but getting beat by the generic family sedan with a 4 cylinder would be shameful. Kinda rethinking the S4 a bit, not that I'm basing my purchase entirely on performance by any means but if the TLX-S can't run away from the Accord in all circumstances then it's definitely 100% off my list, guess we shall see soon! Rethinking I'm kinda sadly thinking you may be right but it's hard to tell with all the amateur results, have to just wait and see an actual run.
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That's fair, maybe I'll eat my words and the Accord will keep up with it from a roll and that would be an extremely sad laughable showing. Not being as fast as an S4 is one thing but getting beat by the generic family sedan with a 4 cylinder would be shameful. Kinda rethinking the S4 a bit, not that I'm basing my purchase entirely on performance by any means but if the TLX-S can't run away from the Accord in all circumstances then it's definitely 100% off my list, guess we shall see soon! Rethinking I'm kinda sadly thinking you may be right but it's hard to tell with all the amateur results, have to just wait and see an actual run.
Yea, we're all just bench racing at this point (fun tho, ain't it?). Either way, I'm really hoping they do runs with the Type-S against a CTR and 10sp Accord 2.0T.
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We all know in our hearts that the Type S really won. Where was sport+ mode and launch control??
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Originally Posted by leomio2.0
I'm assuming you're referencing Sam's video of the CTR vs Accord 2.0T? The Accord driver in that video needs some serious driving lessons. I'm not saying it would keep up with the CTR, but it wouldn't have lost as badly. It would be a close race from a dig, but the CTR traps the same as the S4 ... so, from a roll, the CTR would beat the Type-S by an even larger margin than the S4, assuming the driver can competently shift.

I'd honestly be interested in seeing both of these cars (CTR and Accord) go up against the Type-S
I wasn't paying enough attention then but yeah I just quickly skipped through a few runs. You make good points, I think the Accord might stand a chance and yeah that would be an extremely sad showing. If it can't outrun the Accord or worse loses to it from a roll lol way off my consideration list. God I haven't driven the 2.0T Accord but by the numbers it should be about as good as my J35 Accord but the TLX-S felt way faster than my Accord. I'm excited to see the result.
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I wasn't paying enough attention then but yeah I just quickly skipped through a few runs. You make good points, I think the Accord might stand a chance and yeah that would be an extremely sad showing. If it can't outrun the Accord or worse loses to it from a roll lol way off my consideration list. God I haven't driven the 2.0T Accord but by the numbers it should be about as good as my J35 Accord but the TLX-S felt way faster than my Accord. I'm excited to see the result.
The Type S feels fast because it’s got a great midrange, but in a drag race you only feel they midrange for a second or two, and then the rest of the race is all top-end. Unfortunately for the Type-S, they opted for a turbo setup and tune they favors more lower end power at the cost of top end power. Can’t wait to see what their torque curve looks like once someone gets it on the dyno.
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The Type S feels fast because it’s got a great midrange, but in a drag race you only feel they midrange for a second or two, and then the rest of the race is all top-end. Unfortunately for the Type-S, they opted for a turbo setup and tune they favors more lower end power at the cost of top end power. Can’t wait to see what their torque curve looks like once someone gets it on the dyno.
Yeah hopefully it at least out runs the Accord 2.0T lol.. I mean I know the Accord is a bit of a sleeper but come on even not caring thaaaat much about raw straight line performance I dunno if I could swallow that pill. It's pretty sad because I genuinely like the TLX and the Type S was just like the hey cool they are bringing back the slightly more fun version! I'm not disappointed by the S4 drag, I even knew it was probably going to win going into it but god damn if it can't confidently outrun an Accord that's just a sad state of affairs. Part of me still likes the car as I like the base TLX and the Type S is just the fun version, similar to what I've always done.. I liked the 2013 Accord, I got the coupe V6 version of it that almost nobody buys lol but knowing it's slower than an Accord would make me feel dumb owning one and at that point may as well get the Advance if I want to stay TLX, at least then when I'm slow nobody expected otherwise .
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I think the main thing is, people are just disappointed and had high expectations of the Type-S. Acura really hyped the type-s up, especially returning after 13 years or whatever it is.

I'm not saying it's a bad car, but it's the slowest in the segment, the price point you're missing some main features that other brands have. I personally took this on a test drive and it is fun to drive and it does perform well. Now, you are buying this specifically for performance, so for example missing a HUD, surrond camera, charging ports in rear, etc shouldnt be a dealer breaker, but at 52k+, it should be standard or ATLEAST give you he option to add it. And since this is the performance model, they really cut themselves short being the slowest in segment. Brand new generation platform and they are already behind the competition. It just isn't good. People who don't care for performance would just buy the advanced trim. Strictly speaking performance since this is the performance model, you're just better off buying the 2.0t accord and saving yourself 25k. Doesn't look as good (Imo) and no awd, but is that really worth 25k? Heck you can even do 5k worth of mods to the accord and you'll have a better performing car than the type-s for 20k less.
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I think the main thing is, people are just disappointed and had high expectations of the Type-S. Acura really hyped the type-s up, especially returning after 13 years or whatever it is.

I'm not saying it's a bad car, but it's the slowest in the segment, the price point you're missing some main features that other brands have. I personally took this on a test drive and it is fun to drive and it does perform well. Now, you are buying this specifically for performance, so for example missing a HUD, surrond camera, charging ports in rear, etc shouldnt be a dealer breaker, but at 52k+, it should be standard or ATLEAST give you he option to add it. And since this is the performance model, they really cut themselves short being the slowest in segment. Brand new generation platform and they are already behind the competition. It just isn't good. People who don't care for performance would just buy the advanced trim. Strictly speaking performance since this is the performance model, you're just better off buying the 2.0t accord and saving yourself 25k. Doesn't look as good (Imo) and no awd, but is that really worth 25k? Heck you can even do 5k worth of mods to the accord and you'll have a better performing car than the type-s for 20k less.
I'm waiting on the TLX-S vs Accord 2.0T videos. I do agree with everything you said.
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I drove the Type S. Also have driven many other cars the past two months. You can mention every other car out there for $53k and there’s one thing those other cars don’t have…. The TLX tail light… it’s worth the extra $20k for me.

You could also just buy a 1990 Civic LX Sedan and swap or turbo it. None of these $50k+ cars come with power seatbelts… Chew on that!!!
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I drove the Type S. Also have driven many other cars the past two months. You can mention every other car out there for $53k and there’s one thing those other cars don’t have…. The TLX tail light… it’s worth the extra $20k for me.

You could also just buy a 1990 Civic LX Sedan and swap or turbo it. None of these $50k+ cars come with power seatbelts… Chew on that!!!
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When Acura said they used the S4 as a benchmark, how exactly did they use it. Being pretty much destroyed in the drag race, you would think it would be a little closer based on the years worth of marketing involved. Truly sad. They could have included a ton of standard options, but they did nothing to fix weight even when excluding some. Hoping gen 3 Type-S does better.

As I said before, you're paying less for less. Nothing more.

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Yea, we're all just bench racing at this point (fun tho, ain't it?). Either way, I'm really hoping they do runs with the Type-S against a CTR and 10sp Accord 2.0T.
Agree it over & done with, back to bench racing.

How do you think the Type-S in the S4 Video would do against the Acura's marketing departments version of the Type-S?
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Originally Posted by Ghostof TypeS Past
I drove the Type S. Also have driven many other cars the past two months. You can mention every other car out there for $53k and there’s one thing those other cars don’t have…. The TLX tail light… it’s worth the extra $20k for me.

You could also just buy a 1990 Civic LX Sedan and swap or turbo it. None of these $50k+ cars come with power seatbelts… Chew on that!!!
But will any of those cars ever see the TLX Type-S tail lights? I would cut your $20K back to $10K as being more reasonable as they all would have to be parked at the super market for a special viewing.
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i drove the type s. Also have driven many other cars the past two months. You can mention every other car out there for $53k and there’s one thing those other cars don’t have…. The tlx tail light… it’s worth the extra $20k for me.

You could also just buy a 1990 civic lx sedan and swap or turbo it. None of these $50k+ cars come with power seatbelts… chew on that!!!
lol
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Originally Posted by Ghostof TypeS Past
I drove the Type S. Also have driven many other cars the past two months. You can mention every other car out there for $53k and there’s one thing those other cars don’t have…. The TLX tail light… it’s worth the extra $20k for me.

You could also just buy a 1990 Civic LX Sedan and swap or turbo it. None of these $50k+ cars come with power seatbelts… Chew on that!!!
LOL on the tail lights and what do you mean by power seatbelts?
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Originally Posted by pyrodan007
When Acura said they used the S4 as a benchmark, how exactly did they use it. Being pretty much destroyed in the drag race, you would think it would be a little closer based on the years worth of marketing involved. Truly sad. They could have included a ton of standard options, but they did nothing to fix weight even when excluding some. Hoping gen 3 Type-S does better.

As I said before, you're paying less for less. Nothing more.
It is very obvious that Acura did use the S4 as the benchmark, but didn't put in enough hard work in the TLX Type-S to meet, let alone exceed, that benchmark. FAIL !
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
It is very obvious that Acura did use the S4 as the benchmark, but didn't put in enough hard work in the TLX Type-S to meet, let alone exceed, that benchmark. FAIL !
Maybe the figured the upcoming B10 S4 will be slower than the current one, or even better for them, discontinued.
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But will any of those cars ever see the TLX Type-S tail lights?
Hilarious!!!! The tail lights aren’t for them.. they’re for me!!!
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Doesn't the regular TLX have the same exact taillights? There, I just saved you $20K.
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I think Acura has made a real break through here.

I think this is enough Type-S badges for even @Steven Bell .

Well done Acura. Well done.







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I made up my mind today and am going for the S4 Prestige. I just can’t justify the Type S anymore. I really thought the performance would be closer between the two but seeing it get blown out so hard combined with the missing luxury features I kinda want it’s now clear the S4 is really just superior in every way, I’m in a weird spot where I really want to move on a new car if I’m going to because my used Honda is hyper inflated with some buyers lined up ready to take it off my hands for damn near as much as I bought it for years ago.

Wireless CarPlay, the Audi virtual Cockpit, a proper touch screen, rear bench climate controls + chargers, HUD, etc and for a cherry on top way more performance with better MPG all pushed me over the edge to consider it worth the extra $8000 (MSRP, I expect to get it for a bit less and if I decide to finance any of it they aren’t withholding their best rates like Acura is…). Only thing left for me to debate is black or turbo blue.

It’s a shame that Acura was so close to having me and many others ready to possibly take it home but it couldn’t pick a single category to nail.. if it did just one of the things better than the rest it could be a great value proposition but like it loses at everything. A real shame as I love the cars design overall.
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What’s more to say? Enjoy the new Audi…and don’t look back!

While I personally welcome updates on your ownership experience, I’m hoping the discussion won’t stoop down to shaming new TLX-S owners as they also chime in. There’s enough of that type going around here.
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There’s only one Audi S4 Prestige within 300 miles of me and it’s $68,000 USD
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There’s only one Audi S4 Prestige within 300 miles of me and it’s $68,000 USD
2020 S4 Prestige certified pre-owned with 12,000 miles for $56,944.

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WAUC4AF49LA045029
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What’s more to say? Enjoy the new Audi…and don’t look back!

While I personally welcome updates on your ownership experience, I’m hoping the discussion won’t stoop down to shaming new TLX-S owners as they also chime in. There’s enough of that type going around here.
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I made up my mind today and am going for the S4 Prestige. I just can’t justify the Type S anymore. I really thought the performance would be closer between the two but seeing it get blown out so hard combined with the missing luxury features I kinda want it’s now clear the S4 is really just superior in every way, I’m in a weird spot where I really want to move on a new car if I’m going to because my used Honda is hyper inflated with some buyers lined up ready to take it off my hands for damn near as much as I bought it for years ago.

Wireless CarPlay, the Audi virtual Cockpit, a proper touch screen, rear bench climate controls + chargers, HUD, etc and for a cherry on top way more performance with better MPG all pushed me over the edge to consider it worth the extra $8000 (MSRP, I expect to get it for a bit less and if I decide to finance any of it they aren’t withholding their best rates like Acura is…). Only thing left for me to debate is black or turbo blue.

It’s a shame that Acura was so close to having me and many others ready to possibly take it home but it couldn’t pick a single category to nail.. if it did just one of the things better than the rest it could be a great value proposition but like it loses at everything. A real shame as I love the cars design overall.
You are gonna love it. The prestige package is the way to go.
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I made up my mind today and am going for the S4 Prestige. I just can’t justify the Type S anymore. I really thought the performance would be closer between the two but seeing it get blown out so hard combined with the missing luxury features I kinda want it’s now clear the S4 is really just superior in every way, I’m in a weird spot where I really want to move on a new car if I’m going to because my used Honda is hyper inflated with some buyers lined up ready to take it off my hands for damn near as much as I bought it for years ago.

Wireless CarPlay, the Audi virtual Cockpit, a proper touch screen, rear bench climate controls + chargers, HUD, etc and for a cherry on top way more performance with better MPG all pushed me over the edge to consider it worth the extra $8000 (MSRP, I expect to get it for a bit less and if I decide to finance any of it they aren’t withholding their best rates like Acura is…). Only thing left for me to debate is black or turbo blue.

It’s a shame that Acura was so close to having me and many others ready to possibly take it home but it couldn’t pick a single category to nail.. if it did just one of the things better than the rest it could be a great value proposition but like it loses at everything. A real shame as I love the cars design overall.
Congrats! Happy that you made your mind quick enough unlike some others. I am sure you will love the Audi and never miss the Acura brand.
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2020 S4 Prestige certified pre-owned with 12,000 miles for $56,944.

https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/WAUC4AF49LA045029
@DubPK here you go! Even better. Steal deal. If I was you, I would go with this model and close the deal this weekend and never look back. $56K is a solid deal.
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What’s more to say? Enjoy the new Audi…and don’t look back!

While I personally welcome updates on your ownership experience, I’m hoping the discussion won’t stoop down to shaming new TLX-S owners as they also chime in. There’s enough of that type going around here.
Never would. To each their own, cars are subjective personal choices and everybody should respect that. I do still like a lot of what the TLX-S is I wish they would’ve either been more serious about the performance to make it a bargain performer OR not hold back advance features so you were still getting every single bell and whistle to go with the good but not amazing performance. It’s like they dropped the ball on one and cheaper out too much on the other.. as I’ve said time and time again it’s such a shame because I really like the new TLX and was hoping they’d hit it out of the park with the Type S. Oh well it’s still a very nice car and owners won’t be unhappy or have buyers remorse.

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There’s only one Audi S4 Prestige within 300 miles of me and it’s $68,000 USD
Ha what? Even fully configured with every option brand new with destination it’s not that much.
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Congrats! Happy that you made your mind quick enough unlike some others. I am sure you will love the Audi and never miss the Acura brand.
Quick? Ha to you guys maybe. I’ve been debating these two cars since like 2019 when one was just a sight unseen announcement, I knew when I was ready one of them would probably be it.

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@DubPK here you go! Even better. Steal deal. If I was you, I would go with this model and close the deal this weekend and never look back. $56K is a solid deal.
It’s a shallow stupid little thing but the 2021’s have wireless carplay over the 2020’s so I’ve kinda ruled them out. I know the TLX didn’t have it either but now that I’ve accepted I may spend a bit more than the TLX really want every feature I want. Been looking for 2021 CPO’s figuring some may be coming off lease soon, may give it some time to see and just borrow a junker in the family to unload my Accord while it’s hot.
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Quick? Ha to you guys maybe. I’ve been debating these two cars since like 2019 when one was just a sight unseen announcement, I knew when I was ready one of them would probably be it.



It’s a shallow stupid little thing but the 2021’s have wireless carplay over the 2020’s so I’ve kinda ruled them out. I know the TLX didn’t have it either but now that I’ve accepted I may spend a bit more than the TLX really want every feature I want. Been looking for 2021 CPO’s figuring some may be coming off lease soon, may give it some time to see and just borrow a junker in the family to unload my Accord while it’s hot.
ahah 2019! wow! Anyway, good luck and hope you find what you're looking for.
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This is why the comments go on. Its better because he likes the looks.
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Damn, and Sam is not even a good launcher.
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Damn, and Sam is not even a good launcher.
We don't know much about the other driver either. Good entertainment value, but not likely to sway many decisions. Like others have said, the cars are all in the same ballpark. It will likely come down to personal preference on what's more important to you.
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We don't know much about the other driver either. Good entertainment value, but not likely to sway many decisions. Like others have said, the cars are all in the same ballpark. It will likely come down to personal preference on what's more important to you.
If Type-S == Win
Print ("fock yeah, Honda powar")
Else
Print ("winning a drag is not everything")

Can someone fix my code?
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Old 07-10-2021, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Camaro194
We don't know much about the other driver either. Good entertainment value, but not likely to sway many decisions. Like others have said, the cars are all in the same ballpark. It will likely come down to personal preference on what's more important to you.
Roll race eliminates driver skill (or lack thereof) and the G70 beat the Type S handidly. It's pretty clear both from the bench numbers and now actual evidence that the Type S is the slowest in its class in a straight line. Throw in a few corners and sure maybe the Type S can set a faster lap time than the G70 (I bet it does since the G70 is more luxury-oriented than sport-oriented) but that doesn't change the fact that in the stoplight grand prix it will get smoked.
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
Roll race eliminates driver skill (or lack thereof) and the G70 beat the Type S handidly. It's pretty clear both from the bench numbers and now actual evidence that the Type S is the slowest in its class in a straight line. Throw in a few corners and sure maybe the Type S can set a faster lap time than the G70 (I bet it does since the G70 is more luxury-oriented than sport-oriented) but that doesn't change the fact that in the stoplight grand prix it will get smoked.
Agreed. But this has been pointed out along the way in many of other reviews and driving impressions. Could it use more power? Yes. Is it heavier than others in the class? Yes. But it's still a good driving and engaging car. It's been clear all along that it's not the car if pure speed is your priority.


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