Acura TLX Type S Reviews/Discussion
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Didn't he label the S4 the ultimate daily driver as the title of one of his videos? Is Audi also paying him off? Additionally he was somewhat lukewarm in his review of the 4T Aspec which kinda dispels the idea that he’s a paid Acura booster.
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Now he shows up & just happens to get a photo shoot with an M3 like some the M3's performance image might rub off on the Type S.
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Nice misdirection but this is about his involvement with the Type-S launch & follow up activates. He did say he got 4.58, off a cliff maybe, when car and driver can only get a 4.9. Take C&D - 1 foot roll out & that's about 5.1sec. Most others are in the 5.2 area. He did stage a phony drag race at the Laguna Seca reveal beating an S4, one of which kicked the TLX-S's ass, in real drag & roll races generating a bunch of YouTube hits Which did get universaly panned.
Now he shows up & just happens to get a photo shoot with an M3 like some the M3's performance image might rub off on the Type S.
Now he shows up & just happens to get a photo shoot with an M3 like some the M3's performance image might rub off on the Type S.
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Seems like Acura PR is reading our posts & bought a nice commentary. Guy tried to cover each one. Not bad presentation fans will like it but don't think it will win any hearts & minds of the of people looking to move upscale.
Legend2TL, looks like the main Acura surrogate Red Line is still selling against BMW. So we have RL faking the TLX-S/Audi "drag race". Over stating 0-60 performance by going down hill & now with the $15K cheaper non-sense.
Be interested to see the Dragy of the downhill run as Dragy will mark the run as "invalid" for going downhill.
Legend2TL, looks like the main Acura surrogate Red Line is still selling against BMW. So we have RL faking the TLX-S/Audi "drag race". Over stating 0-60 performance by going down hill & now with the $15K cheaper non-sense.
Be interested to see the Dragy of the downhill run as Dragy will mark the run as "invalid" for going downhill.
Also please explain what kind of "selling" is it when he:
complains of the chassis being too large @12:25
complains of the back seats being too small @12:40
complains of large lack of features compared to the Stinger @16:52
then @18:42 says "hasn't really surpassed anybody", then states he won't give it his full recommendations cause of the Korean offerings (G70/Stinger)
is that what you define as "selling"?
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#846
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Serious question, do you work for Honda/Acura or have thousands of shares of stock in them? Why are you always so defensive of them. I'm not talking about Audi, I don't care about Audi, but he faked a win in a drag race at an Acura event. That is enough for me to question him.
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Depends if hill is parabolic since it would "help" acceleration in both directions. If stepper going down, it helps car take off. If flatter at the beginning when going up, momentum kicks in at the end. Taking the average is not valid since numbers are not linear (acceleration value is different on each point of graph/line).
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The better question I think is...why couldn't he have just found a flat road and just avoided all this downhill/uphill nonsense? Even I could find a flat road in one of the hilliest cities in the country.
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Serious question, do you work for Honda/Acura or have thousands of shares of stock in them? Why are you always so defensive of them. I'm not talking about Audi, I don't care about Audi, but he faked a win in a drag race at an Acura event. That is enough for me to question him.
#850
His videos tend to be overly positive on most of the cars he gets. Presumably it's because if he presents a negative view, automakers will be upset and he'll lose access to cars. I have no doubt if he was filming an S4 video and compared it to the Type S, the S4 would come out on top. It's just the way the system works for a lot of these Youtubers. Nobody wants to be like SG and lose access to cars because they didn't toe the company line.
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Did we all watch the same video? He didn’t step on any of the other cars in the segment and praised the Koreans. What in the world is this hysteria some of you are exhibiting all about? Shit is just weird.
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I'm refering specifically to the first video with the whole Type S vs S4 drag race fiasco.
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Selling is staging a fake drag race with a supposed hot Type-S winning against a car the that will kick its ass every day & twice on Sunday at the drags. The words are bullshit except for the nit pickers, its always the video that delivers the message.
Maybe the 4.7 Average that you are trying to sell fits in pretty well with Red Lines game. There are NO averages in a race, the time is the time. Question why was this guy stupid enough to post an invalid time 4.58 if not to get a positive number before the publics? Why post it at all?
If you believe what you posted read the comments after people saw the real drag race that Sam ran. The initial bullshit of Laguna Seca tumbled down very quickly now the fans are using averages to salvage something from a really bad introduction.
S4 over the TLX TypeS by a few bus lengths is what is real. Wake up & smell the 100 octane
Maybe the 4.7 Average that you are trying to sell fits in pretty well with Red Lines game. There are NO averages in a race, the time is the time. Question why was this guy stupid enough to post an invalid time 4.58 if not to get a positive number before the publics? Why post it at all?
If you believe what you posted read the comments after people saw the real drag race that Sam ran. The initial bullshit of Laguna Seca tumbled down very quickly now the fans are using averages to salvage something from a really bad introduction.
S4 over the TLX TypeS by a few bus lengths is what is real. Wake up & smell the 100 octane
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Serious question, do you work for Honda/Acura or have thousands of shares of stock in them? Why are you always so defensive of them. I'm not talking about Audi, I don't care about Audi, but he faked a win in a drag race at an Acura event. That is enough for me to question him.
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I dont think he faked anything. I just dont think they put the S4 in sport mode before the race. From the races I've seen the S4 launches horribly in normal mode. Its like a completely different car off the line in sport. The S4 would probably have won that race if they went a full quarter mile in that race.
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I dont think he faked anything. I just dont think they put the S4 in sport mode before the race. From the races I've seen the S4 launches horribly in normal mode. Its like a completely different car off the line in sport. The S4 would probably have won that race if they went a full quarter mile in that race.
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I dont think he faked anything. I just dont think they put the S4 in sport mode before the race. From the races I've seen the S4 launches horribly in normal mode. Its like a completely different car off the line in sport. The S4 would probably have won that race if they went a full quarter mile in that race.
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I dont think he faked anything. I just dont think they put the S4 in sport mode before the race. From the races I've seen the S4 launches horribly in normal mode. Its like a completely different car off the line in sport. The S4 would probably have won that race if they went a full quarter mile in that race.
Yeah have no doubt that the Audi would have won. When Sam fell asleep & got hole shot laid on him in the first race when he finally woke up he drove completely around the Acura & won.
Another thought Acura spent how much money on the Laguna Seca event to end up being mocked in social media because the experts that they invited forgot to put a car in the correct mode
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In the vids of his I looked at he never showed any numbers just said the was a 4.7 or 5.1. I only accept the YouTube numbers when the driver has Dragy hook up to show the various times real time.
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Selling is staging a fake drag race with a supposed hot Type-S winning against a car the that will kick its ass every day & twice on Sunday at the drags. The words are bullshit except for the nit pickers, its always the video that delivers the message.
Maybe the 4.7 Average that you are trying to sell fits in pretty well with Red Lines game. There are NO averages in a race, the time is the time. Question why was this guy stupid enough to post an invalid time 4.58 if not to get a positive number before the publics? Why post it at all?
If you believe what you posted read the comments after people saw the real drag race that Sam ran. The initial bullshit of Laguna Seca tumbled down very quickly now the fans are using averages to salvage something from a really bad introduction.
S4 over the TLX TypeS by a few bus lengths is what is real. Wake up & smell the 100 octane
Maybe the 4.7 Average that you are trying to sell fits in pretty well with Red Lines game. There are NO averages in a race, the time is the time. Question why was this guy stupid enough to post an invalid time 4.58 if not to get a positive number before the publics? Why post it at all?
If you believe what you posted read the comments after people saw the real drag race that Sam ran. The initial bullshit of Laguna Seca tumbled down very quickly now the fans are using averages to salvage something from a really bad introduction.
S4 over the TLX TypeS by a few bus lengths is what is real. Wake up & smell the 100 octane
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People are all (myself included)
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But overall I do not believe he's trying to promote or demote the car. He merely pointed out the positives and negatives in comparison to the market and competition which seemed fair to me.
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People are all (myself included)
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But overall I do not believe he's trying to promote or demote the car. He merely pointed out the positives and negatives in comparison to the market and competition which seemed fair to me.
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No need to make excuses for them. The S4 has a 4.2 0-60 time, they did 2 runs they didn't stop to think gee maybe we don't have it in the right mode? Even though it tells you in the Display what drive mode you're in? You deep down know this was a fake race.
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Exactly. Very suspicious. Even those guys who work for Acura AHC or whatever they are called showed the Dragy times when they ran the Type S
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Do you really think people that buy TYPE S and S4 or G70, do they really care about 4.2 vs. 4.5 or 4.6? Let's assume some people do. What would be that percentage? If Acura targets to sell 35,000 TLX per year and TYEP S represents 5,000. Out of 5,000 how many will time their 0-60? this is not about Acura. But about all cars in this segment. Unless you are paying big bucks and you go on track or you are part of a club. I honestly don't think anyone cares. again, this is not to disagree with you or anyone.
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Not an excuse, just stating deep down you nor I know what mode it was in. Pretty simple.
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I will ask you an honest question and this is with all respect:
Do you really think people that buy TYPE S and S4 or G70, do they really care about 4.2 vs. 4.5 or 4.6? Let's assume some people do. What would be that percentage? If Acura targets to sell 35,000 TLX per year and TYEP S represents 5,000. Out of 5,000 how many will time their 0-60? this is not about Acura. But about all cars in this segment. Unless you are paying big bucks and you go on track or you are part of a club. I honestly don't think anyone cares. again, this is not to disagree with you or anyone.
Do you really think people that buy TYPE S and S4 or G70, do they really care about 4.2 vs. 4.5 or 4.6? Let's assume some people do. What would be that percentage? If Acura targets to sell 35,000 TLX per year and TYEP S represents 5,000. Out of 5,000 how many will time their 0-60? this is not about Acura. But about all cars in this segment. Unless you are paying big bucks and you go on track or you are part of a club. I honestly don't think anyone cares. again, this is not to disagree with you or anyone.
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I know for a fact unless the guy driving has no legs the S4 is faster. It has been proven by Sam Car Legion who everybody seems to laugh at for not being able to drive, yet he dusted the Type S. So how do you explain that?
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Will agree the S4 is faster than the TLX-S but that's by C&D, MotorWeek, and other auto media instrumented tests, and not some guy using FRS radios at an abandoned road to conduct drag tests.
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Even before Sam raced both cars, Car and Driver got a 4.2, even if Soyfan (Spelling) got a 4.5 he still would have lost that race he had with the S4. It's why he got so much flack in the first place.
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I will ask you an honest question and this is with all respect:
Do you really think people that buy TYPE S and S4 or G70, do they really care about 4.2 vs. 4.5 or 4.6? Let's assume some people do. What would be that percentage? If Acura targets to sell 35,000 TLX per year and TYEP S represents 5,000. Out of 5,000 how many will time their 0-60? this is not about Acura. But about all cars in this segment. Unless you are paying big bucks and you go on track or you are part of a club. I honestly don't think anyone cares. again, this is not to disagree with you or anyone.
Do you really think people that buy TYPE S and S4 or G70, do they really care about 4.2 vs. 4.5 or 4.6? Let's assume some people do. What would be that percentage? If Acura targets to sell 35,000 TLX per year and TYEP S represents 5,000. Out of 5,000 how many will time their 0-60? this is not about Acura. But about all cars in this segment. Unless you are paying big bucks and you go on track or you are part of a club. I honestly don't think anyone cares. again, this is not to disagree with you or anyone.
You must have multiple personalities Baktash.
You like to make such posts but then post the base model 3 series losing to the accord in a drag race. Yes, a drag race which is essentially testing a vehicle's performance.
You're constantly talking a ton of shit on the TLX page. Calling people Audi fan boys and that you're happy the Stinger is being discontinued. Who are you exactly to call anyone a fanboy? Who are you exactly to talk about performance? Who are you exactly to constantly play this flip flop game here?
Baktash, I don't know brother, but you need to sit down and talk to someone. Acura is Acura, you and I are nobody to them. Let it go man. You're not their hero.
And to answer your question, YES, I do believe people buying the S4, C43, Stinger, G70 & the TLX-S are doing so because they want a performance vehicle and would hope they did enough research to justify their purchase, whatever it may be.
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You must have multiple personalities Baktash.
You like to make such posts but then post the base model 3 series losing to the accord in a drag race. Yes, a drag race which is essentially testing a vehicle's performance.
You're constantly talking a ton of shit on the TLX page. Calling people Audi fan boys and that you're happy the Stinger is being discontinued. Who are you exactly to call anyone a fanboy? Who are you exactly to talk about performance? Who are you exactly to constantly play this flip flop game here?
Baktash, I don't know brother, but you need to sit down and talk to someone. Acura is Acura, you and I are nobody to them. Let it go man. You're not their hero.
And to answer your question, YES, I do believe people buying the S4, C43, Stinger, G70 & the TLX-S are doing so because they want a performance vehicle and would hope they did enough research to justify their purchase, whatever it may be.
You like to make such posts but then post the base model 3 series losing to the accord in a drag race. Yes, a drag race which is essentially testing a vehicle's performance.
You're constantly talking a ton of shit on the TLX page. Calling people Audi fan boys and that you're happy the Stinger is being discontinued. Who are you exactly to call anyone a fanboy? Who are you exactly to talk about performance? Who are you exactly to constantly play this flip flop game here?
Baktash, I don't know brother, but you need to sit down and talk to someone. Acura is Acura, you and I are nobody to them. Let it go man. You're not their hero.
And to answer your question, YES, I do believe people buying the S4, C43, Stinger, G70 & the TLX-S are doing so because they want a performance vehicle and would hope they did enough research to justify their purchase, whatever it may be.
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So everyone else who calls you Jeffery insults you? If I really wanted to be a huge asshole, I would post screen shots. But i'm not that type of person to do so. Keep in mind, a lot of users here are on those pages. It's not difficult to connect the dots when you're posting pictures of your TLX here and there. So there's no difference because everyone knows your name when you post on Facebook groups.. Get it?
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Where's the insult? Isn't Jeffery your name? as Baktash is Tony Pac's name?
So everyone else who calls you Jeffery insults you? If I really wanted to be a huge asshole, I would post screen shots. But i'm not that type of person to do so. Keep in mind, a lot of users here are on those pages. It's not difficult to connect the dots when you're posting pictures of your TLX here and there. So there's no difference because everyone knows your name when you post on Facebook groups.. Get it?
So everyone else who calls you Jeffery insults you? If I really wanted to be a huge asshole, I would post screen shots. But i'm not that type of person to do so. Keep in mind, a lot of users here are on those pages. It's not difficult to connect the dots when you're posting pictures of your TLX here and there. So there's no difference because everyone knows your name when you post on Facebook groups.. Get it?
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My name is Gus. You could have found that out if you followed my build thread since many know me personally.
I'm not playing silly. I call people by their actual names even in my build thread. So don't get it twisted.