Originally Posted by fiatlux

It's not often you see someone driving at the track with their hands at 10 and 2... that would have been called out immediately by any and all high performance driving instructors.

Originally Posted by fiatlux

It's not often you see someone driving at the track with their hands at 10 and 2... that would have been called out immediately by any and all high performance driving instructors.

Originally Posted by mike03a3

Not to mention screwing up the aerodynamics with open window(s).

Originally Posted by mike03a3

Not to mention screwing up the aerodynamics with open window(s).

Originally Posted by Camaro194

Originally Posted by Camaro194

Originally Posted by Camaro194

Originally Posted by neuronbob

Key words in the article: "it's also far and away the best version of the TLX you can buy". Having test driven multiple variants of the current TLX, I agree that the Type S is definitely the best of them. I wish more people on the forum would get out and drive one. It's not just about the speed, the handling is really good and despite complaints about the weight of the car, you really don't feel it much in the turns.

Originally Posted by fiatlux

I finally got a chance to test drive the Type S, and it met my expectations. I had said I expected this to feel more dynamic and "fun" in the handling department than the competition, and that held true, at least driving at 7/10ths. There are a few backroads near the dealership I went to, and I was able to take the car alone, so I got some seat time to hit the twisties. Power is good; it's not slow, but it's not OMG fast either (anyone calling this thing a rocketship or very fast probably has never driven fast cars). The car pulls hard, and it has more character (thanks to the noise), but the M340i and S4 both feel like they pull harder, and in the M340i's case the power up top is sublime. The S4 falls a little flat up top, and so does the TLX (maybe even moreso). It's begging for more revs to be an exciting screaming. Having the car shift at 6K RPM is a bit of a letdown. Honestly, I would be OK if they traded some of the lower-end torque for more revs. It's not like it feels faster down low than the competition anyways. A little more turbo lag than both the Audi and BMW, but not terribly so. The Type S feels very similar to the S4's EA839, and not so much like BMW's B58. But, we all knew that, so not much of a surprise. The best I can say is that the engine holds serve; it's not going to be why you buy the car, but it's also not going to be why you don't buy the car. I'd still give the nod to the S4 engine, but just barely.

As for the handling, it's as good as I thought it would be. I previously said I thought the TLX has better steering feel than the BMW, and this is doubly true with the Type S. Nice heavy weight without feeling artificially heavy, communicative, and turn in is sharp. SHAWD works beautifully, no complaints with that. Even on some of the corners where the asphalt was a bit rough, the car was well damped and I never felt like the car was unsettled or the front was going to wash out. The way it just grips reminds me a lot of the Evo X. In the twisties I'd much rather be driving the Type S over the S4 and M340xi. M340i, hard to say because it's RWD, so not really an apples-to-apples comparison.

I previously raved about the braking feel with the TLX, and I'm going to double down on that for the Type S. Braking feel is fantastic, although I didn't do any wild 60-0 tests to see how well they work, but again at 7/10ths driving I have no complaints.

Would I buy it? If I didn't have kids, and if it was priced at MSRP....maybe. I'd take it over the S4/S5 SB because it really does feel more driver-focused and more "racy", even if the S4 is likely a better daily driver. And if this came with a 6MT, I would absolutely take it over the Germans and even the IS500. It's a car that's fun to drive, and since it's probably not going to beat the Audi or BMW at the test track, I just wish Acura would have leaned in even harder on the "fun-to-drive" aspect and offered a 6MT.

Originally Posted by neuronbob

Key words in the article: "it's also far and away the best version of the TLX you can buy". Having test driven multiple variants of the current TLX, I agree that the Type S is definitely the best of them. I wish more people on the forum would get out and drive one. It's not just about the speed, the handling is really good and despite complaints about the weight of the car, you really don't feel it much in the turns.

Originally Posted by Honda430

It reads like they were quite happy with the dog of the segment. Who would have thunk it. Also interesting that they now have the 0-60 for the Aspec at 6.0 seconds as opposed to the 7.0 seconds that were given in their original write up.

Originally Posted by ELIN

Don't forget that this is the same MotorTrend that said the latest MDX is not only faster than the lighter, previous gen MDX w/the same engine, it's also faster than my 2.0 TLX!

Yes...that MotorTrend.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/

Originally Posted by Honda430

It reads like they were quite happy with the dog of the segment. Who would have thunk it. Also interesting that they now have the 0-60 for the Aspec at 6.0 seconds as opposed to the 7.0 seconds that were given in their original write up.

Originally Posted by F23A4

#INBEFORETHE

Originally Posted by Nexx

ah oh.. many here will not like this. its too positive and accurate.

Originally Posted by dmski

Regular haters here just took a shit on Type S here after TH review at the track, however, those reviewers never ran S4, 340, G70 on the same track to get comparable numbers. It would also be interesting to see where IS500 lands.

Originally Posted by SRB-TL

You're missing the point. NO ONE is ragging on the car. People/we/I are ragging on Acura and their flat out BULLSH!T marketing for the past 12+ years. Every, and I mean, EVERY car is touted with fanfare for 2 years before launch as the next best thing ever. The worst offender is Type S. So much overpromising, so much BS. They went as far as to CGI a video where Type S is doing a drift through a corner. They installed mechanical brake in the car for the video to lock up rear wheels and then digitally added smoke. Some of the BS from their sales pitch for TLX Type S (direct quotes from Acura): 1. Blistering power meets radical refinement in this sport sedan. 2. The Type S is designed at its core to deliver an addictive performance-focused driving experience. 3. The Type S is born to amp your adrenaline levels. 4. Take the wheel and ignite the octane in your heart. 5. The all-new TLX Type S is the most powerful Acura sedan ever engineered.

Blistering power...Radical refinement...Addictive performance...BS after BS...after BS.

Launch was at one of the most difficult race tracks in the western hemisphere.

Type S is NOT a race car. It is NOT a track car. It is NOT a sports car.

Would I buy one? Absolutely. But for what it is. It is a GREAT daily driver car. A fun, agile, awesome looking SPORTY sedan. And not at $53K...it needs to drop below $50K for me to even think about it. Not because I can't afford it but because it's not worth it. To add insult to injury, Acura dealers are starting to talk and behave like Kia dealers with Stinger. Bunch of clowns.

So again, don't blame the people, blame the company for overpromising and underdelivering and for not giving a damn about what dealers are doing. Ford stopped Mach-E mark ups. Dodge stopped Demon and Hellcat mark ups. Acura doesn't care. Great example is Type R that even on it's way out after 5 years is still sold with $10K or more mark up. The car is literally obsolete with 11th Gen already out and these dealers act like these cars are future collectibles. Please...

Originally Posted by pyrodan007

The folks from Throttle House test a massive amount of cars, so they would know which one is a better daily driver. Of course they love pure sports cars, but it's the total package that signs the check. After playing with so many of them, which one did James end up buying? Yup, the S4 even after they professed their love for the M340i and C63 AMG. And from their test drive reactions of the Type-S, the handling is not enough to overcome the pure enjoyment of acceleration that's missing. Not to mention Thomas proved the handling is only average when doing the hot lap.

Originally Posted by caLiTLX

Does anyone think that Acura saved some of these missing features for the “refreshed” version that will come in the next few years? I was surprised they didn’t include the full digital cluster like the newer MDXs considering the Type S variant is at the top of the trim levels. I wouldn’t be surprised if they roll out some of these missing features over the next
few years, time will tell.

Originally Posted by Legend2TL

+1, I expect the mid-model update will include full digital instrument cluster, like most other new Honda/Acura products. For the Type-S, 360 camera's and HUD as well.

Originally Posted by caLiTLX

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but did the Canadian Type S models get the 360 cameras? I thought I saw that on another post. I don’t see why they wouldn’t include it for the US market?

Originally Posted by caLiTLX

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but did the Canadian Type S models get the 360 cameras? I thought I saw that on another post. I don’t see why they wouldn’t include it for the US market?

Originally Posted by Kense

You summed it up perfectly, the weirdest thing to me is blind loyalty to a multi billion dollar car company. I can see if that's your job and you work for them and you're protecting your income, but random "fans" who can't take critisism of an object is extremely odd to me but we are the weird ones for pointing out the flaws with Acura because we are "haters". If nobody said anything negative they would just continue putting out crap. It's not like the car is free consumers have every right to be dissapointed in a $53K+ vehicle when they were promised something else.

Originally Posted by Honda430

What’s your point? They get the 0-60 wrong in one review so we’re supposed to discount any testing that they perform? Yet when some low subscriber count YouTube vlogger states his dislikes we’re suppose to embrace his opinion. Okay, I get your point. SMH

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Being Kinder & Gentler this week with just a few things to say. - Agree with posts #1264, #1263, #1262.

Its not the TLX or TLX-S that sucks its Acura Corporate starting with .........Don't think I am allowed to say but management has their pictures on the company site.

Second thing is agree that TH did not run the suspect cars on their track. They run some & not others. Many of the cars are peoples personal rides & they might have said no road course or no drag race. In the Mustang Mach 1, BMW M2CS & Civic Type R test they were told flat out by FORD Canada who provided the car no road course/ no drag race & mentioned it in the vid 6:10.

TH Test where FORD said no road course or drag race for the Mach1
FORD Canada refuses to let Mach 1 run the Road Course

That said Car & Driver runs Lightning Laps each year & most cars are listed. Well there are no listings for the TL, TL-S, TLX, TLX-S. That's because out of the 281 car that have run over the past 15 years the TL to TLX series has never shown up. Honda is in there with a number of cars. Acura had a 1999 & 2017 NSX in there but I think thats all. To save look up time the M340 is #119 on the list.Just made it into the TOP 120.

Also noticed a couple of arm chair racers sniped at the TH guys & their ability to track test the cars. FWIW they both run the drag races, no issues pretty much point & shoot with a flag man start & AT cars.

Thomas Holland drives all the road course tests for the timed list. He drives motor sports events at a competitive level. Has driven in joint tests with Jason Cammisa and Randy Pobst testing the then new 2020 Ford Mustang GT500 against its rivals, the Dodge Challenger Hellcat Redeye and the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE in a full track and canyon road test: Drag race, drifting, and lap times.

Expect there is no one on this site that can get more out of a car than him. If there is please step up. Believe he got as much out of the TLX-S as it had to give. As HONDA 430 is fond of saying its no track car & he is 100% correct. Really nice family car.

Originally Posted by ELIN

They've gotten two reviews wrong at my last count:

1) 2.0 TLX 0-60 at 7 sec (recently corrected).

2) New gen MDX is faster than previous gen even though it's heavier and has the same exact engine. Unless the laws of physics have changed that's just nonsense. Other reputable reviews of the new MDX confirm that the latest gen is slower than the last.

I normally consider C&D and MT pretty even as publications but MT has taken a hit as of late! C&D seems to be far more consistent.

Originally Posted by dmski

To be fair, these points have been posted 50 times over and some. At some point just move on and buy a different brand. Vote with your wallet. Do you guys post on other car forums non stop about short comings on other models as well? Doubt it.

Originally Posted by Kense

As long as new reviews and new talking points come out, people will continue to discuss the car good or bad. Everything positive has been discussed 50 times over as well, how many times can you praise the car? It goes both ways. By the way yes, I've posted on other forums of cars that I owned. I was all over the Q50 Forums complaining about issues and the shitty transmission. Luckily the car was pretty quick but outside of that it handled like a boat and the tranny sucked and the infotainment would go black on me. If they made a New Q50 Red Sport and it turned out to run a 5 second 0-60 and handled like crap I'd be talking about it on there too. Especially if Infiniti hyped the car up like the second coming. I still own an Acura and have owned plenty of Acura's going back to the Acura Legend, I think we have every right to continue to discuss the car.

Maybe go venture over to the BMW forum and see how much trash is talked on there about the front grilles and the direction of BMW's looks. Not sure why you think it's unique to Acura. People were going crazy on the G80/82 looks in a bad way, the positive is the car performs at near supercar levels so many can overlook the snout. The New 2 Series is getting hammered now too.