ELIN

Yeah, but as long as the Type S isn't winning any races, might as well save a bunch of money (especially if dealers are still stubborn with ADM) and get the A-Spec or Advance instead!

I was glad I was never given that choice as my lease was up months before the Type S came out anyway.

pyrodan007

Hmm, for some members here lol
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Camaro194

Local dealers here aren't doing ADM (wouldn't pay it anyway) and with the $2500 conquest now available for all trims, the selling price should be @ $6k difference from A-Spec. I've driven both and the price is worth it for me. Enough overall improvement for what I'm looking for.

Nexx

Conquest and Loyalty Rebates excludes Type-S

ELIN

Going by that $6k difference, I wouldn't get the Type S unless it was ~$49k since I negotiated a sale price of < $43k back in Oct 2020. Getting below $50k would be the only way for me to get excited for the S.

ELIN

Not as of July 7:

2021 TLX $2,500 Loyalty/Conquest Offer
$2500
Available to current owners of a 2011 or newer Acura, Audi, BMW, Buick, Cadillac, Honda, Infiniti, Lexus, Mercedes-Benz, Tesla, or Volvo vehicles.
Toward Cap Cost Reduction or Down Payment Assistance with the lease or purchase of a new 2021 TLX.
Available Dates:
July 7, 2021 - August 31, 2021
Eligible through 08/31/2021. $2,500 toward Cap Cost Reduction or Down Payment Assistance with the lease or purchase of a new and not previously reported sold 2021 TLX to qualified current owners of 2011 or newer Acura, Audi, BMW, Buick, Cadillac, Honda, Infiniti, Lexus, Mercedes-Benz, Tesla, or Volvo vehicles. Must provide proof of ownership of eligible vehicle in the form of a current vehicle registration or proof of valid auto insurance. Not compatible with Zero Due at Lease Signing leases or other Loyalty or Conquest offers. Used, Certified Pre-Owned Used and Fleet vehicles are NOT eligible. No trade-in required. Offer excludes recent purchase and is transferable among members of the same household when the retail delivery registration address matches the current address on the proof of ownership document. Not redeemable for cash. Incentive paid to dealer and requires dealer participation. Not all customers qualify. See your participating Acura dealer for details.

https://www.acura.com/tools/current-...odelseries=tlx

F23A4

In general I’m a fan of the new TLX. But the thought of ADM Type S models sitting in dealer showrooms for months puts a smirk on my face. If you’re not even going to compete with the main players in straightline performance, it should at least sticker and sell for sub-$50k.

vhtran

There you go, draggy runs are at the end of the video.

jhb31

The 0-60 in the video on the 3 runs right around 5.24 seconds. Is his measurement device accurate? Sport+ and Launch Control were used as well he said.

Honda430

Someone noted in the comments that the draggy result obtained by the host for a Accord 2.0T was a second slower than that registered by the Type S.

Kense

Depends on the driver a full second means the guy can’t drive . It’s much closer than that

DubPK

Even at MSRP it’s a bit of a problem now that we know exactly what the car is. I mean I haven’t even played any hardball with the local Audi dealer yet and I’m already at 4% off MSRP if I go new. That brings a S4 Prestige down to $57,440 compared to the Type S with the optional rims admittedly but the only way I’d go of $54,495 I believe it was. That’s only a $3000 dollar difference and that’s the prestige trim with every bell and whistle you could ask for plus the extra performance.

In about a year when the Type S has loads of incentives on it and can be had for like 45-47k I think it will sell OK and is a decent value. It’s still a solid quick fun car it’s just priced too high putting it into a segment it’s not competitive with.

Nexx

I 100% agree that it does not state that Type S is not included online but I 100% guarantee it does not include Type S unfortunately.

ELIN

Gotcha. Acura will 100% need damage control after all these drag race YT videos!

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

I was like you and didn't think Draggy was accurate. I did enough research and realized that it is accurate. It's real world numbers in real world conditions. Just like hp/tq dyno pulls, there's a thousand variables in which why numbers change. They were consistent in their runs. When some of these other companies test these vehicles, it is done so on a prepared track.

Honda430

I’m not in a position to comment on the fellow’s driving expertise; however, since apparently he was the driver of both cars his lack of driving skills should produce done level of equivalency.

Honda430

I’m thinking that 99% of the buyers will be happy with the car as is. For those of you who want more HP yes there will be tuning cost, but to be honest 356 HP is more than satisfactory for your average Acura buyer.

Honda430

It’s not specifically excluded so it is included. The problem is that the program is scheduled to end at 8/31 and there simply isn’t going to be any Type S inventory for a buyer to take full advantage

fiatlux

It’s too bad it doesn’t make 365hp…

Honda430

So you can get 4% off or more on an ugly little car that’s in its last model year. Sounds like a deal to me. You should go for it.

leomio2.0

Girrrrrrrl, you dun lost yo mind.

An S4 in Quantum Grey with black optics package is better looking than the Type-S in any configuration. Honestly, if they lopped off a good 4-5" off the front of the TLX/Type-S, it would make the overall look of the car much better IMO.

jhb31

lol, looks are subjective. Just like a car can subjectively look fast but not be. I like Acura and have owned many and even more hondas but nothing wrong with looking around.

Honda430

I’m glad you like it. Car does nothing for me and it’s too small for my taste. I do though like the styling of the A6. The S4 looks decent in the first photo, but in reality the (second photo) car is a stubby to say the least.

Nexx

go to your local dealership and they will show you internal paperwork that specifically excludes Type S from Conquest, Loyalty, College Grad and Military incentives.

Honda430

Nexx, based on the current demand for the car you’re not even going to get to the point where you can claim the incentives even though they are technically available. If you’re thinking the lawyers missed something in composing the wording that was published for the public you’re mistaken. Unless the S is specifically excluded it is included. That’s just basic contract law.

fiatlux

I guess we're not going to get any. When someone suggeested he add Dragy times, he said:

Psh, he's just afraid that he'll get exposed for being a shit driver if he shows that.

DubPK

The same basic problem exists no matter what you compare it against in the segment, it just doesn’t compete well at it’s price point. Lower the price and it’s easier to forgive the lackluster performance and the missing luxury/comfort/tech features.

BEAR-AvHistory

Dragy has been comparison tested up the wazoo by guys at the track against track clocks, magazine tests, etc. Its very accurate & very repeatable. On those 5.24 runs on the Dragy actual stats there will also be a drag strip start with a 1 foot rollout. Expect that would show the car at 5.0 or 4.9.



Typically what Car & Driver show in their stats

robnalex

That's what I'm waiting for! 👍🏻

robnalex

In the recent past, they have extended these incentives month by month. Back in February, we were worried that the incentives ($2,500 loyalty + 0% financing) would be gone when we were ready to purchase in March, but they were extended.

ELIN

Yes, but you're still fighting against this:

robnalex

Duncan Acura, in Roanoke, VA is advertising conquest/loyalty for Type-S on their website.

ELIN

I wouldn't take too much stock in that advertising. That conquest/loyalty "alert" is probably hard-coded on the webpage in their system so they couldn't remove if it they wanted to.

The key is: do you have dealer participation and Nexx is telling us you don't!

robnalex

Nexx knows all? OK. 😝

Umm... that's not how websites work these days, Dear. They're dynamic, easily changed, and dealers are very careful about what they put on every page.

ELIN

1) It's already established that Nexx works for an Acura dealer.

2) I think you underestimate how lazy some people are. Wouldn't be the first time someone didn't honor something in their ad!

BEAR-AvHistory

Agree they very carefully worded it TLX. Not TLX-S. Nexx & I spar on occasion but he does work at the Acura store so I would believe him over an add, unless proven otherwise.

Get a quote from them, check the numbers & let us know.

04WDPSeDaN

iTrader: (1)

While i'm not a huge fan of Jason, but he does work for Hiley Acura as the new car director. He doesn't know it all but does know his job.

I can firmly tell you, from all the local Acura dealerships (around my area) advertised the same bullshit including "LOCK THIS E-PRICE TODAY".. til you go there and see next to the sticker window the dealerships markup but none of which is listed on their web page . Again, no idea why you're surprised. This is Acura..

Honda430

The sentence below is included in the description of the program seems to give dealers the option of not honoring the promotion. Note, it does not specifically address the Type S. The way I read this is the dealer is not obligated to provide the incentive even though not doing so makes no sense since it is essentially free money from Acura.

“Incentive paid to dealer and requires dealer participation”

Edward'TLS

Do let us know if you succeed in claiming the incentives on purchasing the Type-S.

Honda430

Trust me I wouldn’t buy a Type S without an incentive.