Turbo Kit for Acura TL '04-'08
12-16-2009, 08:00 AM
#2523
Safety Car
NVA-AV6 is correct.
Disconnecting any of the SRS components (any airbag and/or front seatbelts) will trigger a SRS warning light and disable the entire SRS system (all airbags will be disabled).
It is possible to workaround this issue by using a resistor at the end of the disconnected connector.
If this one airbag was to be removed, please realize that you are removing the complete side airbag, running the entire length of the car (as illustrated in the pic above).
NVA-AV6 is also correct with the "missile" warning. Airbags are not the friendly, helpful devices that the normal person thinks. Airbags are loud, brutal, violent devices when they deploy. When airbags deployed, they often cause deafness (to various degrees), severe bruising, and even cause broken facial bones. And, all of this is with just the airbag itself deploying... no imagine if a metallic object (gauges) was added to this mix.
BTW, I have done some research into this topic in the past.
Safety aspects of racing seats and racing harnesses in street cars (click here)
12-16-2009, 08:16 AM
#2524
Opel put a pod on someone's A pillar. It's noted that the cover comes off just to let the curtain deploy.
If you're worried about it hitting you, put tethers on the windshield side of it. It should allow it to open but not let it fly off.
You're messing with the operation of that bag but you wanted to disconnect it anyway but it may or may not be 100% operational.
If you're worried about it hitting you, put tethers on the windshield side of it. It should allow it to open but not let it fly off.
You're messing with the operation of that bag but you wanted to disconnect it anyway but it may or may not be 100% operational.
12-16-2009, 09:31 AM
#2525
^ No disrespect to Opel, but I would never do anything to impede ANY safety mesure on a car unless it is a dedicated track only vehicle in which case you should be doing other things to add safety. Even for example if the bumper support needed to be cut to fit a FMIC, I will then weld in additional metal or tube to re-stregthen the piece.
12-16-2009, 10:00 AM
#2526
^ No disrespect to Opel, but I would never do anything to impede ANY safety mesure on a car unless it is a dedicated track only vehicle in which case you should be doing other things to add safety. Even for example if the bumper support needed to be cut to fit a FMIC, I will then weld in additional metal or tube to re-stregthen the piece.
Based on the comment about disconnecting it altogether I thought I'd give some ideas that would be less drastic but agree that any modifications to safety systems at all is not good.
12-16-2009, 08:43 PM
#2528
Team Owner
Opel put a pod on someone's A pillar. It's noted that the cover comes off just to let the curtain deploy.
If you're worried about it hitting you, put tethers on the windshield side of it. It should allow it to open but not let it fly off.
You're messing with the operation of that bag but you wanted to disconnect it anyway but it may or may not be 100% operational.
If you're worried about it hitting you, put tethers on the windshield side of it. It should allow it to open but not let it fly off.
You're messing with the operation of that bag but you wanted to disconnect it anyway but it may or may not be 100% operational.
While you're much safer with 5 point harnesses AND a cage with no airbags vs our 3 point and airbags, there's no substitute for side impact airbags. I'm just scared of them going off in my face. When I hit a curb, the only thing going through mind was ducking out of the way just in case they went off.
12-16-2009, 10:55 PM
#2529
We had a discussion about this a while back... and from what I got from it, Opel is risking pods flying if (god forbid) side airbags ever have to be used. I also asked jptl04 b/c he was in an accident and had pics of the side airbag deployment. I still don't think I wanna chance it. I think we were also looking at the HKS CAMP system, but again more $$$. If I got the 'video' gauges route... I'll use the GPS screen with the DOM unit or just mount a small screen in the vanity mirror for flip down gauges.
12-18-2009, 10:06 PM
#2530
i found this pic with some gauges mounted right in front of the center speaker. i had to brighten it up because it was really dark. i like this idea.
Instead of drilling into the dash, do you guys think you could mount these gauges where i placed the arrows on top of the vent molding using these mounts that AckTL05 provided?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/52mm-...ht_3388wt_1253
just noticed I Hate Cars was banned...wtf
Instead of drilling into the dash, do you guys think you could mount these gauges where i placed the arrows on top of the vent molding using these mounts that AckTL05 provided?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/52mm-...ht_3388wt_1253
just noticed I Hate Cars was banned...wtf
Last edited by libert69; 12-18-2009 at 10:09 PM.
12-18-2009, 10:33 PM
#2531
Safety Car
IHC banned..... Well hell 
I hope it is just a short-term one.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=756414&page=2
I hope it is just a short-term one.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=756414&page=2
12-18-2009, 10:34 PM
#2532
That's really personal preference. But mounting it to the subdisplay/vent molding would definitely be better than the dash if you decide change it back.
I've decided to put the A/F and boost gauge behind the steering wheel and then go with an e-gauge package when I decide to add other sensors.
From personal experience, don't make comments of any kind after a mod has posted a warning. A ban is guaranteed if you do.
I've decided to put the A/F and boost gauge behind the steering wheel and then go with an e-gauge package when I decide to add other sensors.
From personal experience, don't make comments of any kind after a mod has posted a warning. A ban is guaranteed if you do.
12-18-2009, 10:42 PM
#2533
IHC banned..... Well hell
I hope it is just a short-term one.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=756414&page=2
I hope it is just a short-term one.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=756414&page=2
That's really personal preference. But mounting it to the subdisplay/vent molding would definitely be better than the dash if you decide change it back.
I've decided to put the A/F and boost gauge behind the steering wheel and then go with an e-gauge package when I decide to add other sensors.
From personal experience, don't make comments of any kind after a mod has posted a warning. A ban is guaranteed if you do.
I've decided to put the A/F and boost gauge behind the steering wheel and then go with an e-gauge package when I decide to add other sensors.
From personal experience, don't make comments of any kind after a mod has posted a warning. A ban is guaranteed if you do.
i was thinking about putting the boost gauge and a/f gauge behind the steering wheel also but that would leave me with a lonely IAT gauge and nowhere to put it so it looks good.
how important is and IAT gauge? what about the knock sensor gauge. i havent seen it but i would assume its pretty small with a few lights on it. where are you going to put that?
12-18-2009, 10:52 PM
#2534
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
IHC banned..... Well hell
I hope it is just a short-term one.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=756414&page=2
I hope it is just a short-term one.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...=756414&page=2
FK! that's the second time ggesq has banned IHC.. It seems like a pretty tame discussion as well. Jason fucking schooled that kid.. lol.
12-19-2009, 05:44 AM
#2535
The only drawback to the carputer (I have one) is screen placement vs gauges you can mount right on the steering colum cover. If you are going to install the gauges (especially WB O2 and Boost) I like them to be in the drivers face so that a issue can easily be seen before it becomes a CATO.
12-19-2009, 07:31 AM
#2537
Guys,
Go to the junkyard an look at a few wrecked TLs, and inspect how the bags deploy. I went through this in my VW as well. The airbag is a "side curtain" airbag that is designed to protect your noggin in a T-bone.
The upper 3rd of the A-pillar has a seam that releases when the bags deploy... The bottom 2/3s of the pillar is stationary in a deployment. The A-pillar does not fly off... Hell that would be more dangerous than anything.
As long as your gauges are no more than 6-8 inches from the bottom, you'll be fine. My gauges are on the a-pillar, right down near the dash. I have no concerns at all... and I've done my homework.
Go to the junkyard an look at a few wrecked TLs, and inspect how the bags deploy. I went through this in my VW as well. The airbag is a "side curtain" airbag that is designed to protect your noggin in a T-bone.
The upper 3rd of the A-pillar has a seam that releases when the bags deploy... The bottom 2/3s of the pillar is stationary in a deployment. The A-pillar does not fly off... Hell that would be more dangerous than anything.
As long as your gauges are no more than 6-8 inches from the bottom, you'll be fine. My gauges are on the a-pillar, right down near the dash. I have no concerns at all... and I've done my homework.
12-19-2009, 09:34 AM
#2539
Guys,
Go to the junkyard an look at a few wrecked TLs, and inspect how the bags deploy. I went through this in my VW as well. The airbag is a "side curtain" airbag that is designed to protect your noggin in a T-bone.
The upper 3rd of the A-pillar has a seam that releases when the bags deploy... The bottom 2/3s of the pillar is stationary in a deployment. The A-pillar does not fly off... Hell that would be more dangerous than anything.
As long as your gauges are no more than 6-8 inches from the bottom, you'll be fine. My gauges are on the a-pillar, right down near the dash. I have no concerns at all... and I've done my homework.
Go to the junkyard an look at a few wrecked TLs, and inspect how the bags deploy. I went through this in my VW as well. The airbag is a "side curtain" airbag that is designed to protect your noggin in a T-bone.
The upper 3rd of the A-pillar has a seam that releases when the bags deploy... The bottom 2/3s of the pillar is stationary in a deployment. The A-pillar does not fly off... Hell that would be more dangerous than anything.
As long as your gauges are no more than 6-8 inches from the bottom, you'll be fine. My gauges are on the a-pillar, right down near the dash. I have no concerns at all... and I've done my homework.
12-19-2009, 09:39 AM
#2540
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
If you needed a third there's enough room for one off the right yet below the driver's air vent. The guy who owned my TL before me had a temp gauge there.
12-19-2009, 04:39 PM
#2544
wow thats real good too. got some good options for placement now. for the time being, ill just be using a boost and a/f gauge mounted behind the wheel like this or on top of the center vents. when the summer hits and i install the meth kit, ill look into an IAT gauge and oil temp
12-19-2009, 08:13 PM
#2553
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Hello Kitty is mad JDM yo!
12-20-2009, 11:38 AM
#2554
Safety Car
the aibags only deploy over the drivers side windows or passengers. the support for the bags is by the "A" pillar and it doesnt affect anything that would be mounted on it. I saw a TL wrecked at a friends body shop last week and looked at the way the bags deploy.
12-21-2009, 07:25 AM
#2556
A from the cabin pic would illustrate this better, but working with what we got...
You can kinda make out what I was saying... in this pic. See 3 points:
- The A-pillar cover is still attached, it disn't go flying off as a projectile into the passengers face in the collision.
- The seam where the airbag pops down from.
- and you can see the bottom 2/3rds of the pillar cover is unmolested.
I used these little 2 1/16 universal cup, with mounting point #1. They came with the SC I bought from blnkypanman.
http://www.egauges.com/vdo_acce.asp?...mpro_Cup&Cart=
They're mounted very low on th apillar, and it only tkes drilling a very small hole in the pillar plastid to mount them.
Again, I'll snap a pic of this mount as soon as the weather breaks and I can actually get to my car (from the snow).
12-21-2009, 08:34 AM
#2557
Yeah good find with the pic on jp's ride... i mentioned that I saw it earlier, but I couldln't find the thread... but I found a inside the cabin pic. A piller gauges seem pretty doable. Check it.
