Microsoft: Windows 7 and Office 2010 Thread
Three Wheelin'
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As far as I can tell, they have all versions in English. You download the ISO file and request for a license key. It's pretty straight forward. And I would start downloading ASAP because I'm sure their servers will get jammed later today.
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Sanest Florida Man
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Damnit! I just got a new job that has a technet license but I don't know it. I think they'll be cool enough to let me download it but, I'm not at work today and I don't know if I should call and bother them for it. I do work tomorrow....but I can't wait until then when I know it's out NOW....but I don't want them to think I'm crazy.
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OH they released the RC version of XP Mode a couple days ago, it adds a few new features:
You can now attach USB devices to Windows XP Mode applications directly from the Windows 7 task-bar. This means your USB devices such as printers and flash drives are available to applications running in Windows XP Mode, without the need to go into full screen mode.
You can now access Windows XP Mode applications with a “jump-list”. Right click on the Windows XP Mode applications from the Windows 7 task bar to select and open most recently used files.
You now have the flexibility of customizing where Windows XP Mode differencing disk files are stored.
You can now disable drive sharing between Windows XP Mode and Windows 7 if you do not need that feature.
The initial setup now includes a new user tutorial about how to use Windows XP Mode.
You can now attach USB devices to Windows XP Mode applications directly from the Windows 7 task-bar. This means your USB devices such as printers and flash drives are available to applications running in Windows XP Mode, without the need to go into full screen mode.
You can now access Windows XP Mode applications with a “jump-list”. Right click on the Windows XP Mode applications from the Windows 7 task bar to select and open most recently used files.
You now have the flexibility of customizing where Windows XP Mode differencing disk files are stored.
You can now disable drive sharing between Windows XP Mode and Windows 7 if you do not need that feature.
The initial setup now includes a new user tutorial about how to use Windows XP Mode.
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Sanest Florida Man
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Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. First off who runs chkdsk when they're bored and on non system drives. Also MS along with others have had troubles reproducing it and it doesn't usually lead to a BSOD. Steven Sinofsky (the head guy of windows development) commented on the original blog article detailing the problem
http://www.chris123nt.com/2009/08/03...#comment-11469
Originally Posted by Steven Sinofsky
Hi there…sorry to get dragged into this. Of course always want to investigate each and every report of any unexpected behavior.
In this case, we haven’t reproduced the crash and we’re not seeing any crashes with chkdsk on teh stack reported in any measurable number that we could find. We had one beta report on the memory usage, but that was resolved by design since we actually did design it to use more memory. But the design was to use more memory on purpose to speed things up, but never unbounded — we requset the available memory and operate within that leaving at least 50M of physical memory. Our assumption was that using /r means your disk is such that you would prefer to get the repair done and over with rather than keep working.
While we appreciate the drama of “critical bug” and then the pickup of “showstopper” that I’ve seen, we might take a step back and realize that this might not have that defcon level. Bugs that are so severe as to require immediate patches and attention would have to have no workarounds and would generally be such that a large set of people would run across them in the normal course of using their PC.
We appreciate the kind words that such a bug as above is “out of place” with Windows 7–we’re working hard. We are certainly going to continue to look for, monitor, and address issues as they arise if required. So far this is not one of those issues.
Some have reported (as above) that this specific issue repros and then goes away with updated drivers. We haven’t yet confirmed that either but continue to try. We just kicked off overnight stress testing of 40 machines of variants as reported by FireRx. We’ll see.
Let’s see if we can work on this one and future issues together. Deep breath
–Steven
In this case, we haven’t reproduced the crash and we’re not seeing any crashes with chkdsk on teh stack reported in any measurable number that we could find. We had one beta report on the memory usage, but that was resolved by design since we actually did design it to use more memory. But the design was to use more memory on purpose to speed things up, but never unbounded — we requset the available memory and operate within that leaving at least 50M of physical memory. Our assumption was that using /r means your disk is such that you would prefer to get the repair done and over with rather than keep working.
While we appreciate the drama of “critical bug” and then the pickup of “showstopper” that I’ve seen, we might take a step back and realize that this might not have that defcon level. Bugs that are so severe as to require immediate patches and attention would have to have no workarounds and would generally be such that a large set of people would run across them in the normal course of using their PC.
We appreciate the kind words that such a bug as above is “out of place” with Windows 7–we’re working hard. We are certainly going to continue to look for, monitor, and address issues as they arise if required. So far this is not one of those issues.
Some have reported (as above) that this specific issue repros and then goes away with updated drivers. We haven’t yet confirmed that either but continue to try. We just kicked off overnight stress testing of 40 machines of variants as reported by FireRx. We’ll see.
Let’s see if we can work on this one and future issues together. Deep breath
–Steven
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And I would never quote infoworld. Their windows guy is Randall Kennedy and he's a dick! He wasn't allowed to get a loaner laptop from MS during the PDC last year (probably cause of his high level of dick-ittude) and got all pissed about it and wrote an article saying that Windows 7 sucks it's slow and bloated and just another Vista. While everyone else was saying it was awesome, etc etc. He then claimed that everyone saying good things about Win7 were a bunch of MS shills and were bought out by MS to say that. He since followed up in the past year with other ridiculous articles like when he claimed the MS was delaying the beta release of Win7 to January 09 because of the harsh criticism that he had laid upon said OS. Which of course is ridiculous as MS announced multiple times at the PDC in Oct the Win7 beta would available in Jan and it was announced at CES as they said it would be. It had nothing to do with that douchebag.
So of course Infoworld would blow this thing out of proportion and call a train derailing show stopping bug.
So of course Infoworld would blow this thing out of proportion and call a train derailing show stopping bug.
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I'd say the mp3 corruption bug that was in the beta was worse. Unfortunately I was affected by that bug and a few hundred of my songs got fucked up. Luckily I had good copies on my Zune and I've since been copying them back to my PC when I can.
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I've known that it's available today, I said friday cause I work at my IT job that day and hopefully I could get it that day but now I want it tonight! I think I'm gonna call my boss and see if he'll hook it up!
Three Wheelin'
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Anyone notice it's not possible to disable the Java icon in the system tray when you go to a webpage with Java? Don't know if it's a problem with Java or Windows but it's annoying me.
Also in Windows Media Player, if you have multiple videos in your playback list and you fast forward to the next video, the window loses focus. I thought they were suppose to fix these bugs in RC!
Also in Windows Media Player, if you have multiple videos in your playback list and you fast forward to the next video, the window loses focus. I thought they were suppose to fix these bugs in RC!
Anyone notice it's not possible to disable the Java icon in the system tray when you go to a webpage with Java? Don't know if it's a problem with Java or Windows but it's annoying me.
Also in Windows Media Player, if you have multiple videos in your playback list and you fast forward to the next video, the window loses focus. I thought they were suppose to fix these bugs in RC!
Also in Windows Media Player, if you have multiple videos in your playback list and you fast forward to the next video, the window loses focus. I thought they were suppose to fix these bugs in RC!
Back on topic here, I have seen an improvement in remote desktop to windows 2000 servers, in RC1, the termsrv.exe would spike terribly and remote desktop was almost unusable. Works like a champ now in RTM 
Photography Nerd
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I installed the RTM this weekend and I've noticed that my laptop actually has noticeably better battery life when used in Power Saver than Vista could do. I got about an extra 30-40 minutes than my norm when I was testing it out last night. It even turns off Aero themes when you switch to that mode, presumably to reduce the processing load.
Has anyone else noticed improved power savings on their laptops?
Has anyone else noticed improved power savings on their laptops?
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Sanest Florida Man
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I was talking to my boss and he said that Technet licenses may only be good for a year. Is that so? So if I got W7 from Technet that the license might only last a year. I haven't heard anything like this but I thought I'd check with you guys to see if this was true, but I don't expect it to be.
Photography Nerd
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I downloaded mine from technet, but I didn't notice anything about a 1yr license. I couldn't activate it with our KMS either, but I'm sure we'll get that figured out next week. "slmgr -rearm" should work for me in the mean time.
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No, but I don't need a key, that's all handled by our KMS. It's just not set up for Windows 7 yet so I needed to rearm my install to give our server guys some time to get their end straightened out.
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Sanest Florida Man
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so really what you're trying to say is that you have an unused license key that you can give me, right? Cause that's all I heard.
In other news Google Chrome is the first big name 3rd party app to support Jumplists AFAIK. The latest dev build of the Chrome browser adds support for Jumplists like so
you can get this build here under where it says "subscribing to a channel" choose the dev channel and that's the download link
http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
In other news Google Chrome is the first big name 3rd party app to support Jumplists AFAIK. The latest dev build of the Chrome browser adds support for Jumplists like so
you can get this build here under where it says "subscribing to a channel" choose the dev channel and that's the download link
http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
Big Block go VROOOM!
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I just finished downloading the IA32 and x64 versions of Enterprise from the volume licensing site. It was apparently posted last Thursday (8/6) but I was somewhere in North Dakota at the time. In case anyone's curious, the 32-bit image weighs in at 2.23 GB with the 64-bit at 2.90 GB.
BTW, KMS FTL. I've requested MAK keys for everything we have from our reseller and never had a problem obtaining them. One less box or server app to maintain. Of course, if you need accountability for your activations then a MAK key isn't going to help you a whole lot.
BTW, KMS FTL. I've requested MAK keys for everything we have from our reseller and never had a problem obtaining them. One less box or server app to maintain. Of course, if you need accountability for your activations then a MAK key isn't going to help you a whole lot.
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Well of course I had to go open my big mouth and curse it. I just got a message back from my reseller stating that he's been given no information whatsoever on how to obtain MAK keys for 7 and Server 2008 R2. The KMS update for those products is apparently on track to be released tomorrow (August 11th). It will be called KMS for Windows Server 2003 v1.2 .
Big Block go VROOOM!
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Technically, it's only going to be four business days between VL release on 8/6 and the KMS update on 8/11. I can't really bitch about the MAK key availability as long as MS resolves it in a week or two. If you're chomping at the bit to have at the RTM code, you'd still get a month of full functionality before cripple mode kicks in, right?
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Sanest Florida Man
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even longer if you run "slmgr -rearm"
speaking of which my
copy of Office 2010 wants me to activate it but I don't have a key is there a "slmgr -rearm" feature for Office>
speaking of which my
copy of Office 2010 wants me to activate it but I don't have a key is there a "slmgr -rearm" feature for Office>
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I am waiting on ours to activate our 2008 server with 2008 R2 and windows 7 keys. They said they aren't releaseing the KMS keys for a few weeks after 2008 R2 goes out.
Keeping emos out of
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I downloaded Win 7 X64 yesterday and did an in-place upgrade from 64 Ultimate x64 and all seems well. The system is definitely running faster but I haven't loaded that many additional programs yet.
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i dont know what im doing, but every once in a while when switching between tabs, it would take that tab and open it in its own window 
also i love that i dont have to double click or click on the icon to "unmaximize" a window. i can just click and drag and it'll unmaximize back to the size of the window before you maximized.
useful for me if im trying to move something
also i love that i dont have to double click or click on the icon to "unmaximize" a window. i can just click and drag and it'll unmaximize back to the size of the window before you maximized.
useful for me if im trying to move something
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are you using chrome, safari or FF 3.5? If so then it means you're dragging the tab. It's a feature so that you can drag a current tab to a separate window if you would like instead of having to keep it grouped with the rest of your tabs. All of those three browsers have that feature, IE8 does not. If IE8 is doing it then you've got teh 
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i dont know what im doing, but every once in a while when switching between tabs, it would take that tab and open it in its own window
also i love that i dont have to double click or click on the icon to "unmaximize" a window. i can just click and drag and it'll unmaximize back to the size of the window before you maximized.
useful for me if im trying to move something
also i love that i dont have to double click or click on the icon to "unmaximize" a window. i can just click and drag and it'll unmaximize back to the size of the window before you maximized.
useful for me if im trying to move something
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ran into my first win7 problem on co-worker laptop. He had win7 RC install. The "peek at desktop" is check, but grey out. The "preview desktop with Aerial peek" is check, but also grey out as well. After we wipe it and install win7 RTM, it's ok. In case it happen again in the future, how do I fix it?
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are you using chrome, safari or FF 3.5? If so then it means you're dragging the tab. It's a feature so that you can drag a current tab to a separate window if you would like instead of having to keep it grouped with the rest of your tabs. All of those three browsers have that feature, IE8 does not. If IE8 is doing it then you've got teh
and i do know about that feature. i guess ill pay more attention the next time it happens.
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Also if you have a bunch of windows open and you want to close all of them except one then you can click on the title bar at the top of the window you want to keep open and shake it. That will minimize all the other windows except that one, a little weird but yet useful.
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ohh wow, if you drag a window to the top of the screen it makes a blip and a preview of the window maximized, and when you release it will maximize unless you drag away. if you drag to the left or right i guess it fills up half of the screen and when you drag away it goes back to how the window was before you dragged it.
nifty little things but probably wont ever use them.
nifty little things but probably wont ever use them.