Microsoft: Windows 7 and Office 2010 Thread
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Pre. I have my Apple Ishelter for the apocalypse...
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Sanest Florida Man
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legally steal it or 
steal it or literally :thief: steal it?
legally is via volume liscensing, msdn or technet, is bit torrent and :thief: is actually stealing if from best buy or some other B&M store.
steal it or literally :thief: steal it?legally is via volume liscensing, msdn or technet,
is bit torrent and :thief: is actually stealing if from best buy or some other B&M store.
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Stealing via volume licensing is a pretty risky proposition these days. All the volume licensing editions of all the current OSs (servers too) expect to be activated via a key management services (KMS) server run by the organization. It's either that or use a MAK key that is directly tied to your company. Now with all that said, I think all of the volume licensing agreements have some form of "work at home" provision.
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there's a hack documented by MS that allows you to upgrade from beta to RC
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/200...xperience.aspx
Originally Posted by Engineering Windows 7 blog
Here’s what you can do to bypass the check for pre-release upgrade <b>IF YOU REALLY REALLY NEED TO</b>:</p>
<ol>
<li>Download the ISO as you did previously and burn the ISO to a DVD.</li>
<li>Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).</li>
<li>Browse to the <b>sources</b> directory.</li>
<li>Open the file <b>cversion.ini</b> in a text editor like Notepad.</li>
<li>Modify the <b>MinClient</b> build number to a value <b>lower than</b> the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).</li>
<li>Save the file in place with the same name.</li>
<li>Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.</li></ol>
<p><b><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_2.jpg" mce_href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_2.jpg"><img style="border: 0px none ; display: inline;" title="clip_image002" alt="clip_image002" src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_thumb.jpg" mce_src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_thumb.jpg" width="244" border="0" height="213"></a></b></p>
<p>These same steps will be required as we transition from the RC milestone to the RTM milestone.</p>
<ol>
<li>Download the ISO as you did previously and burn the ISO to a DVD.</li>
<li>Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).</li>
<li>Browse to the <b>sources</b> directory.</li>
<li>Open the file <b>cversion.ini</b> in a text editor like Notepad.</li>
<li>Modify the <b>MinClient</b> build number to a value <b>lower than</b> the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).</li>
<li>Save the file in place with the same name.</li>
<li>Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.</li></ol>
<p><b><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_2.jpg" mce_href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_2.jpg"><img style="border: 0px none ; display: inline;" title="clip_image002" alt="clip_image002" src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_thumb.jpg" mce_src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_thumb.jpg" width="244" border="0" height="213"></a></b></p>
<p>These same steps will be required as we transition from the RC milestone to the RTM milestone.</p>
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Sanest Florida Man
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Just an FYI if you're still running the beta version of Win7 from this day forward it will begin shutting down every two hours.
you can get the RC here
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/win.../download.aspx
you can get the RC here
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/win.../download.aspx
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Stealing via volume licensing is a pretty risky proposition these days. All the volume licensing editions of all the current OSs (servers too) expect to be activated via a key management services (KMS) server run by the organization. It's either that or use a MAK key that is directly tied to your company. Now with all that said, I think all of the volume licensing agreements have some form of "work at home" provision.
If you use your personal machine for work (logging into the office) you can use a VLK verison.
I checked this with our Microsquish representative.
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Sanest Florida Man
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Interesting video comparing touch support between IE8, FF 3.5 and Chrome.
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Release isn't for almost 4 months so i'd expect improvement from ISVs in the coming months and year after Win7 is released.
I'm looking to buy a laptop in the future and ideally I'd like it to be a multitouch tablet hopefully with an ion chipset and good intel processor.
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Release isn't for almost 4 months so i'd expect improvement from ISVs in the coming months and year after Win7 is released.
I'm looking to buy a laptop in the future and ideally I'd like it to be a multitouch tablet hopefully with an ion chipset and good intel processor.
"Going from Windows 7 is relatively straightforward. So one might think that moving from a pre-release version of Windows 7 to the final version would also be simple.
One would be wrong."
http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/softwa...2055774,00.htm
I foresee a workaround coming...
One would be wrong."
http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/softwa...2055774,00.htm
I foresee a workaround coming...
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Sanest Florida Man
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The workaround I detailed above will work for going from RC to RTM. I plan on doing a clean install though.
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/200...xperience.aspx
Originally Posted by <strong>Engineering Windows 7 blog</strong>
</div>
<div style="font-style: italic;">Here’s what you can do to bypass the check for pre-release upgrade <b>IF YOU REALLY REALLY NEED TO</b>:<br>
<ol><br>
<li>Download the ISO as you did previously and burn the ISO to a DVD.</li><br>
<li>Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).</li><br>
<li>Browse to the <b>sources</b> directory.</li><br>
<li>Open the file <b>cversion.ini</b> in a text editor like Notepad.</li><br>
<br>
<li>Modify the <b>MinClient</b> build number to a value <b>lower than</b> the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).</li><br>
<li>Save the file in place with the same name.</li><br>
<li>Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.</li></ol><br>
<p><b><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_2.jpg" mce_href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_2.jpg"><img style="border: 0px none ; display: inline;" title="clip_image002" alt="clip_image002" src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_thumb.jpg" mce_src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_thumb.jpg" width="244" border="0" height="213"></a></b></p><br>
<p>These same steps will be required as we transition from the RC milestone to the RTM milestone.</p>
</div>
<div style="font-style: italic;">Here’s what you can do to bypass the check for pre-release upgrade <b>IF YOU REALLY REALLY NEED TO</b>:<br>
<ol><br>
<li>Download the ISO as you did previously and burn the ISO to a DVD.</li><br>
<li>Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).</li><br>
<li>Browse to the <b>sources</b> directory.</li><br>
<li>Open the file <b>cversion.ini</b> in a text editor like Notepad.</li><br>
<br>
<li>Modify the <b>MinClient</b> build number to a value <b>lower than</b> the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).</li><br>
<li>Save the file in place with the same name.</li><br>
<li>Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.</li></ol><br>
<p><b><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_2.jpg" mce_href="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_2.jpg"><img style="border: 0px none ; display: inline;" title="clip_image002" alt="clip_image002" src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_thumb.jpg" mce_src="http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/e7/WindowsLiveWriter/Deliveringaqualityupgradeexperience_D236/clip_image002_thumb.jpg" width="244" border="0" height="213"></a></b></p><br>
<p>These same steps will be required as we transition from the RC milestone to the RTM milestone.</p>
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Win7 in a couple weeks. I can't wait. I got the RAM upgrade and the HD upgrade on my laptop all ready installed and ready to go.
Funny. I haven't been this excited about an OS upgrade since Win95.
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Interesting. I actually had the opposite experience. I made an administrative install (or whatever the hell it's called now) for O2K7 and it would only work if I let it do the removal of Office 2003. If I manually uninstalled O2K3 first, and then ran the O2K7 install from the network, the O2K7 install would die.
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I'm running Vista Home Basic on my laptop, and Windows 7 Upgrade advisor says I can upgrade to Home Premium (and get aero)...
I usually don't buy software, but I'm really considering it since it's only $50.
If I buy the upgrade, I'm assuming I can do a clean install...
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yes can do a clean install with an upgrade disc, it's extra work but may be worth it. However I will say that MS has been working hard on making the upgrade process much better and the architectural differences between Vista and 7 are minimal and pale in comparison to the differences between XP and Vista.
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I've got a legit copy of vista home basic on my laptop (purchased last xmas), so I figured this would be a cheap upgrade route.
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I love doing clean installs on window machines every year or so... lol.
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ok well when you finally insert and boot from the W7 upgrade disc and go through the setup and choose custom install (it should be the only available option) it will ask you to enter the product key before installing. You should NOT enter the key at this time instead hit next and a dialog will pop up telling you that you haven't entered a key and if you would like to enter one. Say no. Then it will ask you which version of the OS you'd like to install, chose Home Premium (or whatever version matches the version you purchased) and setup will install that version without a product key.
Once W7 has installed and you now have a working PC (even though you haven't installed a product key) boot up your new OS and then insert the W7 upgrade disc again. This time since you ran the setup while an OS was running then you can choose the upgrade option. It's at this time you enter the product key and you can "upgrade" from a fresh install of W7 to a fresh install of W7. I've done this with vista and W7 and have had no problems.
Once W7 has installed and you now have a working PC (even though you haven't installed a product key) boot up your new OS and then insert the W7 upgrade disc again. This time since you ran the setup while an OS was running then you can choose the upgrade option. It's at this time you enter the product key and you can "upgrade" from a fresh install of W7 to a fresh install of W7. I've done this with vista and W7 and have had no problems.
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Another neat video showing the MS touch pack for W7. I've decided I want to get a multi-touch tablet after this thing is released. I want to wait for the next gen stuff to come out since they will be built with W7 in mind.
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FYI TODAY is the LAST day to get the promotional upgrade price for Windows 7 HOme Premium and Professional. They are $50 and $100 respectively.
Here's links to get them from Newegg
Home Premium $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116713
Professional $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714
Here's links to get them from Newegg
Home Premium $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116713
Professional $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116714
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Here's links to get them from Newegg
Home Premium $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116713
Home Premium $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116713
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Windows 7 should officially RTM tomorrow as has been predicted for the past few weeks at the World Partners Conference. It should be bumped to build 7600 which is odd cause everyone was expecting build 7300 to be the final build since the most recent leaked build was build 7265. It's build string is "7600.16384.090710-1945" which means it was built on 07/10/09 at 7:45pm
http://www.techinvaders.com/windows-...the-final-rtm/
I know someone on here was talking about Volume licensing gettting the RTM build before Oct 22. Well MS sent out a letter saying that if your business has volume license with software assurance that they promise to have Win7 available to you buy the end of July!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3298
http://www.techinvaders.com/windows-...the-final-rtm/
I know someone on here was talking about Volume licensing gettting the RTM build before Oct 22. Well MS sent out a letter saying that if your business has volume license with software assurance that they promise to have Win7 available to you buy the end of July!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3298
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I know someone on here was talking about Volume licensing gettting the RTM build before Oct 22. Well MS sent out a letter saying that if your business has volume license with software assurance that they promise to have Win7 available to you buy the end of July!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3298
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=3298
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Whyyyyyyyyyyyy didn't I see this half price crap until today???
Ughh..
Well, if I order one copy, can I put it on my desktop and my netbook? Or would I have to buy 2 copies? That wouldn't seem right..
Ughh..
Well, if I order one copy, can I put it on my desktop and my netbook? Or would I have to buy 2 copies? That wouldn't seem right..
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Oh well I guess I should announce this too, sorry I been slacking. They will also be releasing -though it hasn't officially been announced yet but we already no details and prices- a family pack for W7. It will be three upgrade licenses of Home Premium and it will cost about $140. I wouldn't expect there to be a family pack for professional and ultimate since they are targeted for businesses and not families.
Also Windows Anytime Upgrade pricing should be:
UPG WINDOWS ANYTIME/W7 STARTER TO HOME PREMIUM UPGRADE
Microsoft - Model 4WC-00040 $81.95
UPG WINDOWS ANYTIME/W7 HOME PREMIUM TO PROFESSIONAL UPGRADE
Microsoft - Model 7KC-00040 $90.95
UPG WINDOWS ANYTIME/W7 HOME PRE TO ULTIMATE UPGRADE
Microsoft - Model 39C-00040 $137.95
What isn't listed is the Professional to Ultimate price. Which should be around $20 since that's the price difference. If so I could upgrade my professional W7 to ultimate and my total cost would be $120, what a deal!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1156
So look into buying the family pack for $140.
Also Windows Anytime Upgrade pricing should be:
UPG WINDOWS ANYTIME/W7 STARTER TO HOME PREMIUM UPGRADE
Microsoft - Model 4WC-00040 $81.95
UPG WINDOWS ANYTIME/W7 HOME PREMIUM TO PROFESSIONAL UPGRADE
Microsoft - Model 7KC-00040 $90.95
UPG WINDOWS ANYTIME/W7 HOME PRE TO ULTIMATE UPGRADE
Microsoft - Model 39C-00040 $137.95
What isn't listed is the Professional to Ultimate price. Which should be around $20 since that's the price difference. If so I could upgrade my professional W7 to ultimate and my total cost would be $120, what a deal!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1156
So look into buying the family pack for $140.