So I just bought my g/f a computer and it comes with vista and office 2007. I hate both. She hates both. Do I just need to install XP and find a word 2003 program?

 

I'm not even really bitching about the accuracy or speeds of searches in Outlook. I'm talking about simple usability. Something like "show me all messages that Mary sent me between Nov. 15th and Dec. 15th" is a very common type of search. The hoops M$ makes a user jump through to do something like that is just inexcusable. Now add to the mix that you still essentially have to store a complete copy of your Exchange mailbox on your workstation to do any sort of searching at all and it's just a sad state of affairs.

BTW - I like the Office 2007 apps, except for Outlook.

 

srika Ive never seen anyone who's hated change as much as you and didn't you vote for Obama?

 

Dude you in are Windows 7 thread! HELLO!

 

I have no idea what that means. I just saw windows and thought I would ask my question.

 

Change is good when its for the better.

Vista SUCKS and so does Office 2007.

 

subinf

Forget Vista, you choices are: Windows 7 Beta or Windows XP Pro Sp3...

Windows 7 is a good way to start if you will do a clean install... I like it so far. Just stay away from IE 8.0

 

Ahh, ok. I'll start there

 

isn't the issue that searching an OST over the network would take a long ass time?

 

Have you try xobni? Much better than outlook shitty searches.

 

"Bill Gates called Xobni the next generation of
social networking."
-Newsweek

WAIT WAIT WAIT... If it's made by Microsoft, I don't want it.

 

ahh screw it's free... I can't refuse free... installing it now.

 

:insert"donotwant"catpicturehere:

lol

 

LoL, running the install of Xobni. The prompt asks me if it can kindly close my outlook to finish install. I say yes. It closed my outlook. I'm starting Outlook now "The data file 'Personal Folders' was not closed properly" And now it is rebuilding it.. let's see over 20K emails.. F U GATES.

 

The problem is that they're relying on the OST, period. IMO, search should read and index the Exchange mailbox live from the server and then create an index that locally stored on the workstation. This is what X1 (and I believe Xobni) do and it just seems to be MUCH more efficient.

 

and you need over 50k emails because...

 

so in other words, Outlook sux

 

Typo to 20K...

I have many accounts integrated into Outlook, which include two of my websites constant orders/shipments/etc... 20K is nothing.

 

<---- Currently has 15K+ in his inbox.

 

my outlook is frozen... like honestly, like WTF.

 

I have 43 lol

 

Dude, what did I ever do to you? Why did I just installed this gay shit?

 

haahhhahaahah

 

i used xobni for a while, it works pretty good, I keep a ton of email in my inbox, currently around 7500 atm. I just don't search as much as I thought i really did and I don't like clutter so i uninstalled it.

 

Umm xobni is the shit. It may be cause you have an ass load of emails that it doesn't work well but yeah that thing is balla.

In regards to Office 2007 vs 2003. Seriously Srika, imagine you've never used office before do you really think that having all possible options two to three at the most clicks away and represented with icons and live previews is worse than having to dig through menus to find shit. You just don't like things to change cause you've adjusted to the way they were even though it wasn't intuitive or easy you learned to master it and now that they completely changed it and everything is in a different place you don't like that you have to learn all over again.

MS released a statistic about Office around the launch of Office 2007 and it was "70% of features requested to be added to Office were already available in previous version". Even Bill Gates when playing with Excel 2007 says that he likes this new feature they added only to find out that the feature had been available for years he just didn't know where to find it. Do you realize that you're in the minority as most people rave about Office 2007 and it's selling better than expected and they expected it to do good. I work for OSI (Outback Steakhouse Inc) and they rolled out Office 2007 but bought PCs with a Vista license and downgraded them to XP.

The most requested UI change for windows 7 is a complete redesign of the control panel where everything is uniform and stays in one window like it is in OS X. But then you'd have to retrain yourself even though it would be better for everyone else who never knew where this stuff was to begin with. Would you complain about that too?
Would you rather have this



or this?



This is a concept of what a unified control panel might look like in Windows 7


IDK why but I was thinking of this today how everything in the network control panel in OS X is in one place for each adapter while in windows you got the proxy options buried in the Internet Options panel and the TCP/IP, DNS settings in the network adapter settings.

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/145

p.s. I've been thinking about adding xobni to Outlook at work and I may do it someday, I'm just worried about it being beta and fucking something up then they'd be pissed. I've already added desktop search to XP and the PDF addin for Office and they love those.

 

sorry, I didnt know you have 20K email. I only have 6K junk email and 1K real email.

 

^ It's ok. I will learn it's benefits. I'm always looking for attachments in my emails as I deal with photoshop on daily basis... If I can find my stuff quicker and more efficient, that will be great.

Thank you

 

I heard that MS plan to buy Xobni (this was 6+ months ago). It works great for me.

 

yeah they were about to but xobni backed out of the deal

 

uhh.. yes, I don't like learning things I already know how to do well, over again, when it was working plain damn fine the way it was. It's fine, whatever, I don't even have that garbage installed. I am on 2003 and will stay on it. I did have exposure to it at work and that's where I saw how ass-backwards it was. I was not in the minority in my thinking, btw. Far from it.

And, I never said anything about Control Panel.

 

and that's why the sales of Office 2007 are exceeding expectations because no one likes it

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine...toffice14.html
http://www.itjungle.com/two/two050207-story03.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-9861625-56.html
http://ld624.wordpress.com/2008/07/2...s-of-new-high/

 

Vista sold well too. And it will be remembered as Bob, part deux. Or, WinMe, part deux.

 

HAHA!! I knew you were gonna say that. There's a big difference between Vista and Office, people actually went out and bought Office. When you buy a PC Vista is included while people have to go out and choose to buy Office cause it's sold seperately. Vista doesn't come with Office 2007.

Again take for example OSI which I work(ed) for, they choose to upgrade to Office 2007 instead of sticking with office 2003 but yet went with XP instead of Vista, that wasn't on accident.

Kinda like the fact the Firefox has 20% marketshare and it doesn't come one any PC you have to go and get it yourself while IE comes with Windows.

 

Ok I did some checking of my own, in order to battle your douchiness. Office 2007 is available in a number of versions, which were not available with 2003. Such as Home / Student version, which is a simpler version and more appealing to such people. In the past, these people probably would have been fine with Works or a similarly simple app. But now they have a new choice at a reasonable price. 2003 is obviously not available anymore.

Another difference is that 2007 launched with Vista, and came bundled on many computers. 2003 was a separate launch from XP.

 

well you didn't do enough research cause you would've seen the office 2003 student and teacher edition which came with the big 4 apps and that was really all you needed but Ms dropped outlook from the pack and replaced it with One Note and therefore the Home and student edition is no where near as enticing to most people as the 2003 student and teacher edition was with Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Outlook. A small business could buy the student and teacher edition and be set but now you've got to buy the professional edition to get outlook. So if anything that hurt sales of office for small businesses. While Office 2007 may come bunled as a free trial on new PC's it still an extra purchase and that's nothing special Office 2003 came bundled with new PC before 2007 was launched. so either way your points are moot.

So when Vista launched why did businesses flock to office 2007 but not to Vista, why did they choose to use XP? Cause they thought it was better just like they thought Office 2007 was/is better than 2003.

 

I think office 2007 is better than 2003, but it took me about 6 months of casual use of Word before I came around to that fact (I hated the lack of menus at first)

I also think Vista is better than XP; but Vista does require your machine to be decent (The crappy sub $600 laptops when Vista first came out should not have had vista preloaded). That said, it looks like they've addressed many of Vista's shortcomings (both UI and performance) in win7

 

that's a whole lotta , Doucher.

 

yeah you need a quad-core 4gb+ machine so it can run like a 2-core 2gb machine with XP. ;p

 

OK, I'm very frustrated at the moment....

Microsoft douches still have a 20% bandwith restriction per USB controller, so instead of 480mbps via USB 2.0, I'm still getting about 90mbps = 11-12MB/s...

I'm transferring a 12GB file right to my usb flash, and it is ssslllooooowwww...

In Vista/XP you could change the Local Security Policy, and disable this 20% bullshit. I don't see this in Windows 7.

Any idea on how to speed up the usb?!?! I want at least half of 480mbps.

12GB @ 11MB/s is like torture.

Also, frustrating, this 12GB is an mkv file. I began streaming it to my laptop from desktop. My laptop is connected to my living room TV via HDMI. So I wanted to see the movie... Windows 7 freezes the movie via Media Player Classic after 10 mins of play, it's like it is buffering..but I'm getting program not responding bs. I'm running an N-draft connection, so it's not the router.. Quad to Duo core again not a problem, but wtf...really... Windows?

 

I've never heard of this, how did you disable it in XP/Vista?

It's a flash drive? you sure it's not the flash drive that's slow?